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Did you guys see Bill Mayer last night.

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-09-12
In Reply to: Psssssssssst, GT!!! - American Woman

Well it came on about 1 a.m. Central. My husband was up and he woke me up. It was a good show.


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I thougth you signed off for the night with a good night to all
Welcome back. Yeah, I saw the same flip off he gave Hillary - nice gesture and respect to a woman who fought hard to get where she is at. Such disrespect.

BTW - I don't know anyone who uses their middle finger to scratch their face.
When Bill Clinton was in office, OHHH you better believe Bill and Carter have had..sm
their day of mudslinging matches, at the pleasure of a many conservatives. So, no there's not a double standard here.
Bill Maher Takes On Bill O'Reilly

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, political humorist Bill Maher (search), he has a new book out called "New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer." Of course, Mr. Maher is about as polite as I am and as timid as Dracula. He joins us now from Los Angeles.


You know, you've had some celebrities on your HBO show, "Real Time," which begins again on Friday, talking about policy and war on terror and stuff like that. I get the feeling they don't know very much, but you do. So I'd like to make Bill Maher, right now, the terror czar. Bill Maher, the terror czar. Could be a series.


How would you fight this War on Terror? How would you fight it?


BILL MAHER, HOST, HBO'S "REAL TIME": I think the first and most important thing is to get the politics out of the War on Terror. You know, maybe I'm a cockeyed optimist, Bill, maybe I'm naive, but I thought that 9/11 was such a jarring event that nobody would dare return to business as usual on that one subject after that.


But of course, we found out that nothing could be further from the truth. And your president, my president too, but the one you voted for...


O'REILLY: You don't know that. Were you looking over my shoulder there? I could have voted for Nader. I could have voted for Kerry, but Kerry wouldn't come on the program, so I wouldn't vote. But I could have gone for Ralph. Ralph's a friend of mine.


MAHER: Yes. Anyway, I said the guy you voted for, President Bush, you know, how come this guy, who was supposed to be such a kick-and-take- names kind of guy, how come he has not been able to get the politics out of this?


You know, as a guy who's been accused of treason, I'll tell you what real treason is: Treason is when legislators vote against homeland security measures because it goes against the wishes of their political or financial backers. Treason is the fact that, as a terrorist, you could still buy a gun in this country because the NRA (search) lobby is so strong.


O'REILLY: OK. But you're getting into the political, and I agree with you. I think that the country should be united in trying to seek out and kill terrorists, who would kill us.


But I'd like to have some concrete things that you, Bill Maher, the terror czar — and take this seriously, this could be a series — what would you do?


All right, so you've got bin Laden. You've got Al Qaeda (search). You've got a bunch of other lower-level terrorist groups. What do you do to neutralize them?


MAHER: OK. Well, first of all, you discounted my answer, which is get the politics out, but OK.


O'REILLY: Well, assume you can do that. They're gone.


MAHER: We'll let that go. Keep going. I wouldn't worry that much about bin Laden. I mean, capturing bin Laden at this point, it doesn't really matter whether he's dead or alive. He's already Tupac to the people who care about him and work for him. Capturing bin Laden, killing him would be like when Ray Kroc died, how much that affected McDonald's.


O'REILLY: It would be a morale booster. But I understand. You're not going to send...


MAHER: A morale booster, right. Well, we've had plenty of morale boosting. We've had plenty of window dressing. What we need is concrete action.


In the book I wrote before this one about terrorism, I suggested that we have a Secret Service for the people. I said whenever the president goes anywhere, he has very high-level, intelligent detectives who look around at a crowd. They know what they're looking for. They're highly paid. They're highly trained.


We don't have that in this country. We should have that. We should have a cadre of 10,000 highly trained people who would guard all public events, bus stations, train stations, airports — and stop with this nonsense that this robotic sort of window dressing...


O'REILLY: OK, so you would create a homeland security office that was basically a security firm for major targets and things like that. It's not a bad idea. Costs a lot of money. Costs a lot of money. It's not a bad idea.


MAHER: Costs a lot of money compared to what? If you paid 10,000 people a salary of $100,000 a year, that would, I think, cost $10 billion or something. That's nothing. There's that much pork in the transportation bill before you get...


O'REILLY: Yes, 10,000 wouldn't do it, but I get your drift.


MAHER: Whatever it costs.


O’REILLY: You would create a super-security apparatus. OK, that's not bad. That's not bad. How about overseas now?


MAHER: What we need to do is what I call get Israeli about this. Because the Israelis are not afraid of profiling. The Israelis are not afraid to bury politics in the greater cause of protecting their nation. We don't act that way. You know, I'm afraid 9/11 really changed nothing.


O'REILLY: Boy, your ACLU (search) pals aren't going to like that. You're going to lose your membership card there.


MAHER: I'm not a member of the ACLU.


O'REILLY: Oh, sure you are, just like I voted for Bush. You're a member of the ACLU. I can see the card right in your pocket there.


MAHER: Bill, I'm not a joiner. I'm not a joiner. I don't like organizations.


O'REILLY: They won't have you, Maher, let's be honest about that. All right, now, in your book, which is very amusing, by the way — if you want a few laughs buy Maher's book.


MAHER: Thank you.


O'REILLY: You take some shots at FOX News, which is your wont, and I just want to know why you think we're so fabulously successful here.


MAHER: Well, I think that question has been answered many times. It's because the conservative viewer in this country, or on radio the conservative listener, is very predictable. They like to hear what they like to hear. They like to hear it over and over again.


O'REILLY: All the surveys show that the viewers are all over the map. They're not conservative in a big bloc. Some of them are moderate. Some of them are Democrats. Some of them are Moroccans. I mean, they're everywhere. That's your analysis? That just the conservatives watch us?


MAHER: Well, I think mostly the conservatives do watch you. That's not to take anything away from what you guys have achieved over there. It's a very well-produced broadcast, and they have excellent personalities like yourself, Bill. Who could resist watching you when you get home from work at night?


O'REILLY: Whoopi Goldberg, maybe? I don't know.


MAHER: Yes.


O'REILLY: Anyone who doesn't watch here is misguided. We identify them as such.


But look, I think there's more to it than — you're in TV. You know the ratings game. I mean, if you don't provide a product that is satisfying people, no matter what your ideology, they tell you to take a hike.


There's a guy over at MSNBC. He's a very conservative guy. He was hired and nobody's watching him. They hire liberals. Nobody watches them. Air America (search). Nobody's listening to it.


I mean, there's got to be a reason why we're No. 1, a punch line for you, and No. 2, you know, becoming the most powerful news network in the world.


MAHER: Well, I think, as I say, it's a well-produced product. You know, your program moves along, always at a clip that never seems to bore. You know, you move along to the next topic, the next guest. It never sort of drags. I don't think a lot of people know how to produce that stuff that way.


O'REILLY: All right. It's bells and whistles and my charming personality. That's what I thought it was.


Last thing: You know, one thing I like about Maher is he's not a hypocrite. He drives a little hybrid vehicle. Right? You putter around there. Does it have training wheels? What's it like?


MAHER: Actually, I had the Prius hybrid for three years. I was one of the first ones to get it right after 9/11. And I traded it in a few months ago for the Lexus hybrid.


O'REILLY: I think we should all cut back on our energy consumption, and I think we should all get these hybrids as fast as we can.


Hey, Bill, always nice to see you. Thanks very much. Good luck with the season on the TV show.


MAHER: Continued success there, Mr. No. 1.


O'REILLY: All right. Thank you.


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Bill Clinton and his ties to India (yes, Bill),...
and China (yes, Bill) sent a lot of our jobs their way. Google it some time. Even I was amazed.

Look, it is simple economics. The big bad corporations everyone hates...first of all, it is not 5 or 6 rich guys and that's it. They employee thousands of people just like us...and when the government puts those huge taxes on them, if they want to stay in business, they are forced to move offshore. Higher taxes are responsible for more jobs going overseas than "greed." The DNC has told its members for years that "corporations" and "the rich" are the cause of all their problems and they have bought that Marxist rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. Corporations are not the cause of ill in this country. They are the backbone of the economy in this country. That is simple economics 101. And I am certainly not rich...and I certainly am not on the upper echelon of a corporation, but I do understand reality and I understand how the economy works. Yes, there is wrongdoing by some upper level folks in corporations. There is wrongdoing in the government. Where there is power, there will be wrongdoing. But for every Enron there are thousands of other good, solid companies that employ thousands of Americans, but the DNC does not share the success stories, because it does not promote their agenda. In order to control people they want them beholden to government and hating free enterprise. They want big government, total power, and control. And following Alinksy's program...you have to instill class warfare. You have to make corporations the enemy. You have to make classes envy the next rung up. Classic Marxist socialism. It is being played out in this country every day.

It is just that some of us have not bought the myth and jumped on the socialism train.
Did you read the bill? It was a regulatory reform bill...
asking them to regulate, not de-regulate. But Democrats blocked it...no wonder. Fannie was greasing a lot of Democratic palms...and Frederick Raines, the Dem CEO at the time...was in the Clinton administration. They were taking care of their own...and we are paying for it.
Yes, last night was party night.
I was actually very disappointed in the Obama party. I thought we were going to discuss issues and where Obama stood on the issues, but the lady from the Democratic Headquarters that came to give that information only passed out papers that were printed directly off of his website - already read that. The other thing I was disappointed in was that it seemed everyone there was a Hillary supporter and talked endlessly about her rather than Obama (no, I didn't get snarky and remind them that she was not running=). Unfortunately, I don't really feel like I learned more than what I did off of his website. It was nice to chat with my friends and meet some new people, but other political-wise, it was a waste of time. That's not to say that all Obama parties would be that way and I do encourage anyone who gets invited to one, whether you're Republican or Democrat, to attend - the person in charge of that one might be more knowledgable than the one from the party I was at. Thanks again to all who sent me websites to check out beforehand!!!
if abe is on the $5 bill & george is on the $1 bill, what is Obama on?
****censored****
When you consider how much these guys
Posted on Tue, Feb. 21, 2006


Dubai company set to run U.S. ports has ties to administration

BY MICHAEL MCAULIFF
New York Daily News

WASHINGTON - The Dubai firm that won Bush administration backing to run six U.S. ports has at least two ties to the White House.

One is Treasury Secretary John Snow, whose department heads the federal panel that signed off on the $6.8 billion sale of an English company to government-owned Dubai Ports World - giving it control of Manhattan's cruise ship terminal and Newark's container port.

Snow was chairman of the CSX rail firm that sold its own international port operations to DP World for $1.15 billion in 2004, the year after Snow left for President Bush's cabinet.

The other connection is David Sanborn, who runs DP World's European and Latin American operations and who was tapped by Bush last month to head the U.S. Maritime Administration.

The ties raised more concerns about the decision to give port control to a company owned by a nation linked to the Sept. 11 hijackers.

The more you look at this deal, the more the deal is called into question, said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who said the deal was rubber-stamped in advance - even before DP World formally agreed to buy London's P&O port company.

Besides operations in New York and Jersey, Dubai would also run port facilities in Philadelphia, New Orleans, Baltimore and Miami.

The political fallout over the deal only grows.

It's particularly troubling that the United States would turn over its port security not only to a foreign company, but a state-owned one, said western New York's Rep. Tom Reynolds, chairman of the National Republican Campaign Committee. Reynolds is responsible for helping Republicans keep their majority in the House.

Snow's Treasury Department runs the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S., which includes 11 other agencies.

It always raises flags when administration officials have ties to a firm, Rep. Vito Fossella, R-N.Y., said, but insisted that stopping the deal was more important.

The New York Daily News has learned that lawmakers also want to know if a detailed 45-day investigation should have been conducted instead of one that lasted no more than 25 days.

According to a 1993 congressional measure, the longer review is mandated when the company is owned by a foreign government and the purchase could result in control of a person engaged in interstate commerce in the U.S. that could affect the national security of the U.S.

Congressional sources said the president has until March 2 to trigger that closer look.

The most important thing is for someone to explain how this is consistent with our national security, Fossella said.



you guys
First, there are no terrorists and we are just fighting a senseless war. Then no one is to be trusted!  LOL!  Cracks me up.
I think that 19 guys getting
on planes and crashing them into buildings were pretty freakin' emboldened to begin with. Whatever is making them more bold (and I would debate that - I don't think they could get more bold) it is not a bunch of lefties carrying signs. I think they are as bold as bold gets right now without any help from us and they are splintering more and more...soldiers of God, sounds like Jim Jones.
after what you guys have done to her....
take two. Don't forget the mouth. :)
So, sm, what about those guys in
Neery a peep?
What about these guys? (sm)
 
  • Republican sex offender and former North Country assemblyman and current state Parole Board member, George "Chris" Ortloff, 61, was arrested on Monday, Oct. 13, 2008 on federal charges that he used the Internet to solicit sex with minors. He was arrested following a sting operation at a Colonie motel and had allegedly arranged for a date with a minor he met on the Internet. '' The New York Post reports that he had child pornography and sex paraphernalia in his possession when he was arrested. State Police reportedly searched Ortloff'''s home in Plattsburgh and a computer had been seized from his Lake Placid real estate office, officials said. Ortloff, married with two sons, retired from the Assembly in 2006 having represented the 110 th District. '' He was appointed to the part-time position on the Parole Board, a six year term which expires in 2012, a position paying him $102,000 a year.

    • Republican sex offender & Missouri State Rep. Scott Muschany, (R)-Frontenac, was indicted today, Aug 6, 2008, in connection with a reported sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl on May 17, the day after this year’s Legislative session ended. The alleged victim is the daughter of a state employee. The girl’s mother and Muschany, a married father of 2 children, were romantically involved, the woman said. (Aren't "Family Values" a wonderful thing?) In a morbid twist of irony, Muschany was a co-sponsor of legislation that toughened sex offender laws in 2006. According to his legislative biography, Muschany and his wife were licensed as foster parents with the Division of Family Services.

      • Republican sex offender & longtime stalwart Republican operative Peter Hong was arrested July 23, 2008 for solicitation of prostitution. Police spokesman Peter Panos said that the arrest came during the first day of a two-day sting operation during which "johns" and prostitutes responded to ads placed on the Internet and in print. Thirty-five people were arrested Wednesday and Thursday, Panos said today.

        • Republican sex offender & candidate for Mineral County (W.Va.) Commission Wilton Frederick Bland, 30, of Bayberry Place, was arrested March 23, 2007, after police received a complaint concerning a juvenile boy who said Bland had wanted him to appear nude on the Internet. Bland charged last year with 136 counts related to sexually based crimes against children has been sentenced to a possible total of 85 years after pleading guilty in both Grant and Mineral counties. was charged at the time with 73 counts of possession of child pornography, 45 counts of sexual assault in the first degree for allegedly having sex with a child under age 11, nine counts of use of obscene matter with intent to seduce a minor, seven counts of display of obscene matter to a minor and two counts of employing a minor to do sexually explicit conduct, according to the West Virginia State Police.

          • Republican Delegate Robert McKee, known as an advocate for children's rights, is the focus of a child pornography investigation after officers searched his Hagerstown, MD home. McKee is not facing any charges right now, but as of today, Feb 15, 2008, he has resigned his position as both a state delegate and as executive director of the Big Brothers Big Sisters Club of Washington County. In a statement, McKee said he is entering treatment to, "get well and stay well." Shock waves echoed through Hagerstown, as the news that he was being investigated for child pornography spread like wildfire.
            **We will be keeping an eye on this story for further developments**


            • Republican sex offender & Department of Children & Families press secretary AL Zimmerman, 40, was arrested Friday, Feb 1, 2008 and charged with eight felony charges of using a child in a sexual performance. According to an arrest report, Zimmerman offered two teens money in exchange for photographing them in sexual acts. The victims were ages 16 and 17 at the time of the crime, and at least one may have been in the care of DCF at one point, according to the report. Authorities believe some of the images date back to December 2005, the arrest report showed. Zimmerman is suspected of taking photos as recently as Friday, the report showed.

              • The Republican Mayor, who is also the Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins Missouri, a town in St. Clair County, is accused of trying to convince someone whom he thought was a teenage girl to meet him for sex. Diamond police say Allen D Kauffman is charged in Newton County with four counts of enticement of a child after an online investigation that began in mid-November.
                Diamond Police Detective Jim Murray says he posed as a 13-year-old girl named Cindy and was approached by a man who used the screen name duke dukeadk on Nov. 15 about noon in an online chat room.
                Murray says Kauffman discussed meeting her to take nude photos and to have sex. Over the course of seven conversations during the past two months, transcripts show each chat was sexually graphic. Murray say Kauffman recognized the girl’s age, and even showed some hesitation, teasing the girl about whether she could be a cop.
                Police say Kauffman repeatedly asked the girl to use a webcam, and didn't wait long to use his. The detective saved some photos from a webcam on Kauffman's computer in his home in Collins.


                • Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman, 37, of Allouez, Wisconsin was charged last month with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child for allegedly fondling a 16-year-old Ethan House runaway and providing the boy with beer and marijuana late last year.

                  • Republican U.S. Justice Department official John David R. Atchison, 53, an assistant U.S. attorney from the northern district of Florida, has been arrested on suspicion of traveling to Detroit over the weekend to have sex with a 5 year old child. An undercover officer posed as a mother offering her child to Atchison for sex, according to police. In deposition, detectives said Atchison suggested the mother tell her daughter that "you found her a sweet boyfriend who will bring her presents." The undercover detective expressed concern about physical injury to the 5-year-old girl as a result of the sexual activity. Detectives said Atchison responded, " I am always gentle and loving; not to worry, no damage ever, no rough stuff ever. I only like it soft and nice." The undercover detective asked how Atchison can be certain of no injury. He responded, "Just gotta go slow and very easy. I've done it plenty," according to detectives.
                    **UPDATE: John Atchison has killed himself. Detroit police confirmed Atchison's suicide death at 10:14 a.m. Friday, Oct. 5, 2007. Good riddance, scumbag!


                    • Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.

                      • Republican Homeland Security deputy press secretary Brian J. Doyle , 55, was arrested Tuesday night, April 4, 2006 and charged with trying to "seduce'' a 14-year-old Polk County girl with graphic talk over the Internet. On March 12, Doyle contacted a 14-year-old girl whose profile was posted on an AOL Web site, according to the Sheriff's Office release. Initially, detectives thought Doyle was posing as someone working for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. But they soon learned otherwise when he sent a picture to the girl over the Internet wearing an official ``DHS tag'', Judd said.

                        • The former head of the Michigan Federation of Young Republicans, Michael Flory, admitted Tuesday that he sexually abused a colleague during a national convention in Cleveland last summer

                          • Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

                            • Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

                              • Republican Township Supervisor Robert Holland stepped down amid accusations that he sexually assaulted a 92-year-old nursing home resident in 2006. Holland, a 77-year-old Republican, pleaded guilty to aggravated indecent assault and related charges and is now serving a two- to four-year prison sentence in Bucks County.

                                • Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

                                  • Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

                                    • Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

                                      • Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.

                                        • Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

                                          • Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

                                            • Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

                                              • Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

                                                • Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

                                                  • Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

                                                    • Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

                                                      • Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

                                                        • Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.

                                                          • Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

                                                            • Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

                                                              • Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

                                                                • Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

                                                                  • Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

                                                                    • Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

                                                                      • Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

                                                                        • Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

                                                                          • Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

                                                                            • Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

                                                                              • Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

                                                                                • Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

                                                                                  • Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

                                                                                    • Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

                                                                                      • Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

                                                                                        • Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

                                                                                          • Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

                                                                                            • Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

                                                                                              • Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

                                                                                                • Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

                                                                                                  • Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

                                                                                                    • Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.

                                                                                                      • Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

                                                                                                        • Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her 2 children by strapping them in their car seats and plunging them into a lake in South Carolina and blamed it on a black man. Beverly Russell admitted abusing Smith when she was 15 and continuing an incestuous relationship with her until shortly before she drowned her children in John D. Long Lake.

                                                                                                          • Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.

                                                                                                            • Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

                                                                                                              • Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

                                                                                                                • Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

                                                                                                                  • Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

                                                                                                                    • Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.


                                                                                                                      • Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.


                                                                                                                        • Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.


                                                                                                                          • Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

                                                                                                                            • Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

                                                                                                                              • Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                • Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.


                                                                                                                                  • Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).


                                                                                                                                    • Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                      • Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

                                                                                                                                        • Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

                                                                                                                                          • Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

                                                                                                                                            • Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

                                                                                                                                              • Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

                                                                                                                                                • Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

                                                                                                                                                  • Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

                                                                                                                                                    • Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

                                                                                                                                                      • Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

                                                                                                                                                        • Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

                                                                                                                                                          • Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

                                                                                                                                                            • Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

                                                                                                                                                              • Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

                                                                                                                                                                • Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

                                                                                                                                                                  • Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

                                                                                                                                                                    • Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.



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                                                                                                                                                                      • Oh hea, look you guys
                                                                                                                                                                        Wall street is crashing, pew, pew, wink, wink, I just about fell out of my trailer. Me and joe six pack could not find a condom and my daughter sure did not have one, then the president came on and the wow, geez, its all about jobs you know.
                                                                                                                                                                        He did not take anything from big guys
                                                                                                                                                                        The limit is $2,300 for the primary and $2,300 for the general election. Certain companies that are big and powerful had employees who gave donations, but he did not take any lobbyist money. I think that very big people who are anonymous yank the whole government's chains though. Look at the congress...ugh!
                                                                                                                                                                        who are you guys?
                                                                                                                                                                        Everything you just blabbered on and on about is exactly government control. Listening in on private conversation....government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        Paying taxes for Gitmo and the moochers of this country....government control. Paying for Gitmo criminals to come over here courtesy of Obama and we pay to house them here in this country as well and pay for Obama to allow them to be tortured in this country.....government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        You mean paying for the private companies that are corrupt and made one deceitful decision after another while Barney Frank sang their praies just a few weeks before they screwed their employees over?......government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        Paying taxes to keep up ANYTHING except our military.....government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        Tax breaks to companies overseas? Can't blame one party for that....both parties have caused that. Those overseas companies actually started here. They went overseas because of government control once again. No government control of their companies, i.e., tax.....they stay here and hire our people to work. Just like McCain said, cut their taxes big time and they will come back here and hire our people. WHat did Obama say? I will tax the heck out of them, those big old bad companies. You think they're gonna stay here at all now? GOVERNMENT CONTROL.....

                                                                                                                                                                        Overturn Roe v Wade? Absolutely! Federal government had no business making that decision in the first place. That should be state decisions. New York was the first state to say yes,you can kill babies here, and guess what? Many went there and found a way to do it. Those states that do not want abortion should not have it forced down their throats either.......government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        Let us not even begin talking about segregation, which by the way, had its beginnings at the democratic level. If you're so concerned about segregation, maybe you need to look to the democratic party, which was the biggest killer of civil rights laws for the blacks in this country, including the well-loved president Kennedy, who shot down every civil rights law that came his way and the KKK leader (democrat) who despised Martin Luther King and condemned his messages...I believe he called him an inciter of hate. BTW, MLK was a Republican for all those who live in ignorance believing the democrats are their friend. He certainly knew who was standing up for civil rights for blacks and it WASN't the democrats. MLK fought the democrats who stood at the doors of the school house. Democrats fought to keep blacks in slavery and they also passed the Jim Crow laws and Black Codes. It was actually a republican president who pushed to get the civil rights laws passed to allow desegregation in the first place. I'm not sure how you equal abortion of babies to segregation, but it's not the same thing.

                                                                                                                                                                        If you mean Independent Party when you say you guys, then that is what we're for......less government. Did you hear me say anything that would applaud bigger goverment?

                                                                                                                                                                        If government wasn't involved you wouldn't have to worry about deregulation and monopolies of companies. If those in Congress on BOTH sides didn't have their hands in these companies, you wouldn't be seeing any of these problems. Government should have let them crumble. We're in this "mess" because government stuck their big noses in, took my money once again, and gave everyone a blank check.......government control.

                                                                                                                                                                        Problem is, until democrats stop pointing fingers at the republicans, when the problem lies with BOTH parties, then government will continue to control your life.




                                                                                                                                                                        you guys

                                                                                                                                                                        crack me up.  Instead of accusing someone else of being disrespectful, why not look in the mirror.  That seems to be your raison d'etre.


                                                                                                                                                                         


                                                                                                                                                                        You mean like the way you guys have...(sm)

                                                                                                                                                                        given Obama such a break before he even got into office, and now all through the ceremony?  No.


                                                                                                                                                                        I would not delay prosecuting Bush for war crimes just as I would not delay prosecuting a murder that lived next door.  I would have been happy if they would have carted him off to prison at 12:01 today.


                                                                                                                                                                        You guys are really something.  The man committed a crime, has been blatent about committing that crime, and all you do is defend him....unbelievable.


                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe the guys at YU.....
                                                                                                                                                                        threatened to pound them if they messed with us girls? lol - anything is possible.
                                                                                                                                                                        You guys really need to....(sm)
                                                                                                                                                                        come out of the Fox hole and take a look around.
                                                                                                                                                                        I don't see where you guys are getting
                                                                                                                                                                        this stuff.  Fox News has a link on their website talking about the violence in Iran and last night and this morning they had one of their correspondence over in Iran on the phone reporting what is going on.  Fox isn't NOT reporting about Iran.
                                                                                                                                                                        Night

                                                                                                                                                                        I dont have to defend my education or knowledge of history.  I know what I have been taught.  This endless attack gets tiring.  Time to go do something more constructive than read your attacks to me.  Later Gator


                                                                                                                                                                        I saw the ad too last night.
                                                                                                                                                                        She definitely told us to vote for Obama.  So much for their claims of being a bipartisan group.....sheesh.
                                                                                                                                                                        They only had from 11 p.m. last night
                                                                                                                                                                        to 9 a.m. this morning to read it, not 2 weeks. The one that passed the house happened last night, not 2 weeks ago. There are changes in it since yesterday.
                                                                                                                                                                        I saw this on TV last night as well.

                                                                                                                                                                        This is definitely scary.  When we lose control to raise or own children......what else do they want to take away from us.  This is beyond ridiculous.


                                                                                                                                                                        You people who cry and whine about government staying out of your uterus....well how about stay out of my home and let me raise my kids I decided to have instead of aborting.  What about those rights? 


                                                                                                                                                                        And they wonder why people are upset and worried?


                                                                                                                                                                        I saw this last night.
                                                                                                                                                                        She was an excellent guest.
                                                                                                                                                                        Exactly what DH said last night.
                                                                                                                                                                        He said the country is down the toilet and he doesn't care what they do anymore because none of it helps the working man, just the corrupt government and the millionaires. There will be no middle class, only the poor and the rich, like it was in the 'dark ages.' 
                                                                                                                                                                        I saw last night where they said that
                                                                                                                                                                        WE (taxpayers) footed the bill for the helicopter ride, secret service motorcade, closing of the streets (yep this costs money), extra police needed in NYC and on top of all of this they believe that we also paid for the dinner and the show.  Over 20,000 people with GM losing jobs and our President is going on a date at the taxpayer's expense.  I don't care if he is Republican, Democrat, this is just wrong for any politician to pull this kind of crap especially with the things the way that they are. 
                                                                                                                                                                        What planet do you guys come from?
                                                                                                                                                                        You actually think people by this stuff as genuine. Again, do you actually think through what you state, or do you state it for the shock effect. I assume it's the latter.
                                                                                                                                                                        Not at all, but YOU guys seem to be the one who hates
                                                                                                                                                                        x
                                                                                                                                                                        you guys are so funny
                                                                                                                                                                        You conservatives crack me up..You are on the liberal board, reading liberal information and you just cant help yourself, you attack liberal posts on the liberal board..That is too funny.  And that rabid dog *Rep* keeps posting on my posts, even though I told the person I will no longer read posts from *Rep*.  You guys just cant stop it, can ya?  I know times are scary for republicans right now and it is just eating away at you all.  It is laughable.
                                                                                                                                                                        Guys, I'm going to be honest...sm
                                                                                                                                                                        I don't see what the major deal is about the wire tapping. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but as a child I've always been told that the government tapped phone lines warrantlessly (seeing as how they could probably get a warrant anyway).

                                                                                                                                                                        So tell me in laymen's terms, what is the big problem with this for the average law abiding citizen?
                                                                                                                                                                        Wow, you guys are sure defensive!
                                                                                                                                                                        I am just used to boards where the current events are being discussed.  Yes, I was trying to stir the pot!   Just not like you think.  Wrong approach?  LOL...maybe.  So what is your opinion about the stem cell bill coming up?  
                                                                                                                                                                        I know. I love these guys. (NT)
                                                                                                                                                                        :-)
                                                                                                                                                                        I do not resent those guys...
                                                                                                                                                                        any more than I resent the ones who ran to Canada or otherwise dodged the draft. What I resent is an all volunteer army not being supported by their countrymen who they are fighting and dying for. When protestors belittle veterans, spit on them, call them stupid, and on and on and on...yes, I resent that. I resent it deeply. The reason the draft was such a bad thing during Viet Nam and not such a bad thing in 1940 is the difference in the patriotism and mindset of an 18-year-old in 1940 and the same in an 18-year-old in 1960. The 18-year-olds who dodged the draft in 1960 had no conception of patriotism, no conception of the true origins of this country...the ideal that there are some things worth dying for is itself dying. And with it true patriotism, national unity, and on and on. Believe me, I can identify with not wanting to go where I might be killed. However, I know in whom I believe and I know my destiny is sealed. Young people did not have that in the 60's like they did in the 40's. In the 40's God was still a very important part of the daily national lives of most Americans. In the 60's that was no longer the case. I know you will not agree with me and that is fine...however, I can see the moral decline and I can see the character strength erode along with it, right through history. There has been so much liberal rewriting of history that to this point young people really have no clue of the origins of this country. And not only young people....black people as well. I would be willing to bet that at least 85% of blacks think that Democrats fought slavery and that Democrats are who gained them their civil rights, and that is exactly the opposite. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and the Republican congress passed the first civil rights laws after the Civil War just to make sure the Democrats did not turn right around and take away the rights the Civil War bought them...which they tried to do. THAT is true history. And it was Democrats who fought the civil rights movement in the 60s...look at the votes for that little piece of history. Yet I would be willing to bet that the majority of black people have no clue it was actually the Republicans who first emancipated them and then gave them civil rights. I could go on and on...but I won't. Have a good day, Lurker.
                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for replying guys...
                                                                                                                                                                        I'm glad to hear he is gaining your confidence and maybe even your vote.  I really hope he keeps up the hard work and shows America what he's truly capable of.  I think he has the potential to be an amazing leader, and I hope he gets the chance to prove me right!
                                                                                                                                                                        I was never any competition for you guys...
                                                                                                                                                                        Your streaks had me beat by a mile. 
                                                                                                                                                                        We learned it from you guys
                                                                                                                                                                        **
                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, REALLY? Like you guys don't start to -sm
                                                                                                                                                                        soil your panties everytime you come across another person who doesn't think exactly like you in every way?
                                                                                                                                                                        So true. What those guys say on the air

                                                                                                                                                                        How does this stack up to the other guys?
                                                                                                                                                                        Obama and Biden both have released 10 years of their income tax returns.
                                                                                                                                                                        According to your information, Obama gave 3.8% of his income over 10 years to charity. I do not think this reflects the whole picture because it appears that he files separately from Michele. Not shown on your chart was the average of 5.7% in contributions of their combined incomes in 2007 and for 2006, 6.1%.

                                                                                                                                                                        McCain has disclosed little about his family finances. He files separately from his wife, and he has put out only his 2006 and 2007 returns. There seem to be wild discrepancies in the reports of how much McCain gives to charity, but it appears that he donates generously. When your wife's net worth is $100 million, you can afford to be REALLY generous…something on the order of 25%, as near as I can tell. The campaign released Cindy's two-page tax return for 2006, but not complete returns. Reports on that also vary wildly, ranging between less than a 1% to 7% contribution to charity on $6 million income.

                                                                                                                                                                        The Palins…well that's another story. There are a number of reports out that Sarah Palin has a "tax mess," with some allegations of tax evasion. She has only released returns for 2007 and 2006, with charitable contributions averaging 2.9%. Joe Biden seems to be an uncontested miser, with contributions to charity of around 0.3%.

                                                                                                                                                                        The national average for charitable contributions is 3%, so it looks like the Obamas are well above that average, so I am really not quite sure what you were trying to say.

                                                                                                                                                                        PS: Obama is planning to raise taxes on himself.
                                                                                                                                                                        sorry -- I know how much you guys like references
                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1022/p01s02-usec.html
                                                                                                                                                                        You guys are a trip...

                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe I'll send him some money because I can't believe he's not spending more.  Oh maybe he's frugal...  Darn it! 


                                                                                                                                                                        Dear Mr. President (Barack or is it Barry):


                                                                                                                                                                        CHEERS!!! 


                                                                                                                                                                        Sincerely,


                                                                                                                                                                        A voter who is all for the CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!! 


                                                                                                                                                                        Oh yeah...you guys are just

                                                                                                                                                                        friggin geniuses aren't ya.  Picking a man to run our country who has little to no experience.  A man who associates with radicals and racists.  A man who is so extreme left it isn't funny.  A man who would allow abortion with no guidelines whatsoever. A man who would take away our right to protect ourselves by taking away our guns.  A man who promises things he can't possibly keep.  A man who can't make an executive decision.  A man who has no military experience.  Whatever....



                                                                                                                                                                        See? Already u guys are talking to yourselves !!!!!!!!! nm
                                                                                                                                                                        nm
                                                                                                                                                                        two guys arrested -

                                                                                                                                                                        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_re_us/obama_effigy_8;_ylt=ApnYVC6hvVirz0zH0FdKaFxh24cA


                                                                                                                                                                        These two guys hung an Obama effigy from a tree and they were arrested...


                                                                                                                                                                        You want to communicate with the guys before 911?

                                                                                                                                                                        A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that  America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
                                                                                                                                                                        Pause a moment, reflect back.
                                                                                                                                                                        These events are actual events from history..
                                                                                                                                                                        They really happened!!!
                                                                                                                                                                        Do you remember?
                                                                                                                                                                        1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
                                                                                                                                                                        2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        3. In 1979, the  US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at  Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        9. In 1993 the World   Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        10. In 1998, the  US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        12. In 2002 the  United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
                                                                                                                                                                        13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists..
                                                                                                                                                                        No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!
                                                                                                                                                                        They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,  but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
                                                                                                                                                                        According to The Book of Revelations:
                                                                                                                                                                        The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
                                                                                                                                                                        And Now:
                                                                                                                                                                        For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40s.
                                                                                                                                                                        Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
                                                                                                                                                                        I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...
                                                                                                                                                                        Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
                                                                                                                                                                        As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,
                                                                                                                                                                        'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                        Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet....do it!
                                                                                                                                                                        or again. .  just delete if you disagree.
                                                                                                                                                                        This was fun, you guys beat me, I got a
                                                                                                                                                                        67%, but it was fun, Thanks!
                                                                                                                                                                        Wise guys....
                                                                                                                                                                        our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.

                                                                                                                                                                        Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                        My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?

                                                                                                                                                                        Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.

                                                                                                                                                                        Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
                                                                                                                                                                        You know, I'd really like to get a hold of the guys...sm

                                                                                                                                                                        who sat and crunched the numbers and decided that it would be cheaper for their business to take American jobs and outsource them.  Cheaper for who?  If they would think this process out, and do the old school math instead of this fancy new math, they may have come up with a different answer. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Take for instance transcription: 


                                                                                                                                                                        Factor in hundreds to thousands of Americans losing their jobs to India, the newest craze in Transcriptionist outsourcing. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Factor in the loss of revenue from how much each of those transcriptionists can no longer spend and help keep the economy balanced, ESPECIALLY in such a recession now. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Factor in how little the government is going to issue out to these people who cannot find work so they can at least feed their family while they try to find something comparable to what they were doing.  Factor in the few government grants that people can qualify for because they are now low income.  Compare that to the millions they lost and are no longer contributing to the economy. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Factor in the cut backs because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford health care, and now the hospitals can no longer afford the MTSOs and have to bring what work they do have back in-house. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Factor in now the MTSO that outsourced the work in the first place no longer has work available to outsource, thereby breeching contract, therefore having to pay huge fines, losing contracts left and right, and whoop, there goes another business under. 


                                                                                                                                                                        Oh who am I kidding, what do they care?  They will just pay themselves a big bonus as they watch the company Titanic sink, and then AHDI and the lawyers will jump in and bail them out using the money that was skimmed from the employees who worked so hard for many years, just like the taxpayers!!??!! Man this country is messed up! 


                                                                                                                                                                        Don't you guys get tired of the same old - sm

                                                                                                                                                                             argument, day-in, day-out, week-in, week-out, month-in, month-out?  Democrats are spenders.  Republicans are greedy hogs.  The country is in decline.  Abortion will cause god to strike us all dead.  We'll overpopulate the world and all starve to death.  Whatever.   When it all boils down, ya know what?  It just doesn't frickin matter.  Whatever's going to happen in this country is going to happen, and we have very little control.  We never did, we don't now, and we likely never will.   I think we need to abolish the party-system altogether, or else nothing useful will ever get done in government.  So, knowing that will never happen, rather than keep on fighting about it, we should just leave government to bicker with itself, and come up with our own ways of making our own lives better.  In the end, that's all that matters anyway.   No sense getting an ulcer or having a coronary about who is president or who isn't, because bottom line?  It just doesn't matter.