Don't worry JR - very easy to trounce them AND discuss the issues.
Posted By: Zauber on 2005-10-08
In Reply to: Then why do you do it? - JR
They're dumb, and they lack conviction, and they do most of the work of exposing themselves for the lackeys they are so that we don't have to spend much effort at it. I mean case in point - that the Freepers would even THINK it was a good plan to tie up liberals on chat boards to keep them from grassroots organizing. Hey, if they can get paid for it more power to them - but sheez, are they really that stupid? Or, just that desperate, heh.
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Sam does discuss issues and gets attacked for it.
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Issues people, issues. I need issues
I'm not seeing any discussion about issues. Can we stick to the issues. Jeeze - I want to hear good and bad about both candidates but with facts to back whatever is being said.
P-L-E-A-S-E.....I want issues. How can I make any kind of determinatons about who I'm going to vote for if I don't hear about the issues. Reading some of this I'm thinking I'd get more truth if I read the National Enquirer.
I was trying to discuss things with you
You obviously have a great hatred for our country and our president and cannot see the difference between Bush and world leaders who are set on the destruction of the United States and Israel. The Iranian president has made his intentions known about what he wants to do to Israel and the U.S. In fact, he had a nice little P.R. campaign in his country this past week detailing what he wants to do to us. If you are so naive to believe he just wants his country to have energy from nuclear plants then I guess you deviate from what much the U.S. and the rest of world thinks about Iran's intentions.
I said the nuclear option should be the last resort as I believe our president would make it, but you are so lost in your world of conspiracy theory on Bush's character and intentions that you evidently missed that part of my post.
I would like to know where you got the so-called Bush quotes. This is the first time I've heard people actually use quotes--where did those come from? I hope not a hearsay opinion piece, because that wouldn't lend much credence to those so-called quotes.
I was actually joking with you when I made the *shopping spree* remarks. I know you are much too intelligent to actually go and do that. You may, in my opinionm be a little misguided by your emotions but I know you're not that stupid. I'm sorry you cannot see humor in someone discussing this topic with you. I'm even more sorry that you feel you have to label everyone who disagrees with you as uninformed and unthinking. People will have different opinions with you on many issues but that makes them neither stupid or uninformed. Have a nice day...
I am not asking you to discuss Israel. sm
I know that it happens all the time. I am sorry that it does.
I refuse to discuss
religion with Moonies or Scientologists. There is just no common ground. The same way as I refuse to discuss politics with people who actually consider Fox a news station. They are indoctrinated and innoculated from the truth by daily coordinated talking points to distort any event (such as saying Charlie Gibson looking down his nose at SP or was too rough on her) to favor their desire to keep the corrupt repubs in power. It's a waste of my time.
Why can't I continue to discuss
You all carry on about Obama's palling around (re: believing things that simply cannot be substantiated), but you sure can't take it when someone turns around and comments on your precious heroine. How very sad for all of you who hold this vapid, undereducated, unqualified, power hungry example of hollow charm in such high esteem. Perhaps we should be discussing your judgment instead of hers.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
Your idea of a reply very often isn't up for discussion. You seem to think it's the only one that matters. End of discussion.
Okay - let's discuss the $9 mac and cheese.
Personally, I love bacon crumbs on my mac and cheese. Anyone else?
What do you expect? You just come to antagonize not discuss.
But you don't do that. You only discuss the democratic past.
In order to smear it.
No talk about the 12 prior years of Reagan and Bush. 
A time to dissect and discuss a war...
is after your military is at home and safe, if you want to debate it pubically. The time to discuss the war and how you as an American feel about it is in private until they are safe. If you want to discuss it while they are still at war, discuss it in town hall meetings. Discuss it at your house. Discuss it at Wal-Mart. Discuss it in your front yard. Write to your congressman. But do not do it publically while men and women are still fighting. You are entitled to your feelings and to express them. However, common courtesy, in my opinion, should keep a person from going public while men and women are still fighting. All that does is embolden the terrorists. They have said so themselves and it is pretty obvious that it does. I saw an interesting report on it this morning, how that is the number one *battle front* for AL Qaeda now...just feeding the propaganda machine with the daily stuff from the American public. Frankly, I don't think that is anything to be proud of. But that is just me.
What about parents who don't discuss with their kids?
And so you know right off, I'm not a Barack fan nor McCain fan. However, my own personal beliefs aside, I believe "it takes a village to raise a child" and there are FAR too many parents NOT doing their jobs these days, which forces schools, governments, etc. to jump in to help. I see far too many parents who'd just as soon go to the bar than raise their child. There are parents who are apathetic, and there are parents who are embarrassed or ill-informed themselves to teach their kids sex ed. I don't think sex ed is a problem at all in school, so long as it's in the context of health education and not presented to students in a biased manner of some sort. It IS how mammals reproduce and therefore does have a place in education.
God gave us free will and if you try to control the free will of someone else, how is that right? I believe in consequences of free will when someone chooses wrong, which is why we have laws in place. I don't believe it's any one person's or party's place to tell another how to live their life, period.
Personally, I'd like to see more parents do their jobs at home so gov't and schools didn't have to do it for them (and all the rest of us too as a result), and sure, ideally I'd like to see more kids abstaining from sex altogether. But I'm also a realist and know that my beliefs and willpower aren't the same as everyone else's. That's what is supposed to be great about USA.
The reality is that not all kids have the willpower to abstain in the heat of the moment, no matter WHAT their upbringing or what wonderful parents they have. As you said, it's everywhere - on TV, movies, ads, games, you name it! It's in their face now more than ever, so to ignore it and act like it won't ever happen isn't the answer, either. No, I don't know what the answer is, either, but I don't think that's it.
Also, to take away any access to sex ed and/or birth control at all is in a sense forcing the ideals/morals of one group of people on another and basically taking the free will of the other group - how do you reconcile that? I'm being sincere, as this question plagues me often when considering these issues.
I never meant to discuss the money -
my point, Kendra, was just that these kids can already be treated without their parents consent, that that part of it was nothing new.
Honey, I would glady discuss this
with you privately. Since you seem to be so well-read, as I am also, we could have a great discussion on this subject. The market can easily be manipulated by speculators and the outrageously rich to sway political minds. When the market is down it favors the dems, it's a fact. When the economy is good, the current administration gets the credit; when it's bad the same also happens. You don't think that can be manipulated at all?
My own humble opinion on why O will be elected are these: The economy, hatred of Bush, white guilt and uninformed voters, period.
Maybe she just doesn't have anything to discuss with you....pitiful
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I like it here. Besides, mostly all they discuss there is current events. Imagine that. nm
Well pardon me, but how can you discuss the present without a history of sm
what shaped it? It isn't possible.
Well, by all means lets discuss pertinent
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Of course, because it takes high thinking to discuss
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Why don't we discuss the Republican candidates for a change?
This is just like a dog chasing his tail! 
Why don't you discuss like an adult instead of throwing temper tantrums?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
It's like trying to discuss Dante's Inferno with someone stuck in My Little Red Reader. nm
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We'll discuss that crime when Bush et al are done with their trial.
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Be easy...see ya!
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That was easy!
You said:
America is becoming a very scary place indeed. I believe, as you do, that there are people who are eagerly awaiting the *Rapture* and indeed believe they have the *inside track* to heaven. Unfortunately, it look as if this country might actually suffer from their self-fulfilled prophecy if it continues going backwards in time under Bush's completely inept leadership.
I wish it was that easy
Problem here is I don't know what to give up that would make a difference. Only 2 of us, we both work at home, so only drive to grocery store on weekend, or an errand here and there. We spend maybe $10 a month in gas, however, close to $200 a week on food (sometimes more). We have been cutting back on meat. Not so much because of cost but more because of constantly getting home and its bad. I'd love to get my food bill down but it is so hard and I don't know how without starving ourselves.
It's not easy
I can usually find socks and underwear made in the US, some jeans, sheets and tools, but when it comes to buying toys, there isn't much. (I think Slinky is still made in the US.)
But I read labels and check the descriptions when I buy on line and I try to buy American when I can. Same with cars; we're a big GM family.
Take it easy
May we please discuss matters w/o using angry, foul language? Because this leads us to nowhere. Thanks.
Won't go there. Too easy. :-) nm
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Easy....sm
My gut feeling is that every promise and idea and plans for our future that has ever come out of Barack Obama's mouth is a lie, or else it's couched in such a way that he will be able to twist it later. It's all socialism, being called by other names. (Most recent point being, his 250,000 tax the rich, which is now down to 120,000). I can never, ever, believe anything that he says. Slick Barry does not inspire trust in me at all.
McCain, well, honestly, only about half of his stuff do I disagree with. Sure, he probably has told some whoppers, but they don't kick me in the gut and make me gasp for air, the way the other one does.
So I'm voting for McCain. It's a matter of trust. I trust and truly believe he is the better choice, and will be better for America, in the short and long term.
There you go. That could not have come easy for you.
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it's easy to say that
you wouldn't mind paying a higher percentage if you don't have to do it. you may well be singing a different tune if you actually had to pay it. I am not making light of your situation. I am simply saying the percentage should be even. just to make it easy - if you make $250,000 and pay 25% in taxes that comes out to paying 62,500. It you earn 50,000 and pay that 25% in taxes you pay $12,500. don't you think the 62,500 is already enough; why should they pay more. I don't understand. But if I was earning the 250,000 and paying that much in taxed, I should wouldn't want someone telling me I should pay more because I actually did well for myself.
That's easy....(sm)
If you don't want your kids looking at porn on the internet, teach them not to do it. Provide your kid with internet access and put a block on that computer. If they are visiting a library during class hours and are looking at porn on the internet, I would say they have some behavioral problems anyway, and porn is about the last thing you need to worry about in that case.
You guys scream smaller government, but then you want the govt to raise your kids.
Very easy to tell you're no conservative
or else you'd have mastered the art of "twisting" and wouldn't have such high regard for the truth.
Lesson 1: Visit the Conservative Board and study closely.
(Lesson 2 will follow as soon as you have successfully completed Lesson 1.)
This is an easy one. Impeach!!
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This one's too easy. Just made my day.
Title of you post is lifted straight out of TT112OldTimer's post responding to Free Speech Rocks. When spinning soooo out of control that the brain becomes blank, you can always resort to plagiary. Hello. Are you listening? Vitriol out, vitriol in. You might be shocked by how much respect you earn with just the simple gesture of extending some. Respect is NOT a 4-letter word.
Common sense is exactly what I used when I decided to attack my own bigoted tendencies back when I was still a teenager. I did not learn any of that from books or courses I took in school. I took it to the streets and reaped benefits beyond measure from those lessons.
Au contraire. The bluster of bigots is easy to bury under fact and logic. No need to be thwarted by that. Their reservoir of insults runs very shallow, but the intellect is a well that one can dig as deep as is necessary. Fact/truth is another arch-enemy of the bigot. You at least had the wisdom not to attempt to ridicule the context post since you knew you would be in way over your head and besides, you are allergic to the other side of the coin. As they say, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. It can’t be much fun to find yourself dumbfounded by your own narrow mind. Frustrating too...remember it well.
On the shortcut post: That was your snipe, not mine. Snipe begets tripe. Vtriol out/vitriol in. Garbage out/garbage in. Is there an echo in here?
Not the slightest bit interested in agreement, validation or vindication. I am secure enough by now not to need all of that. But in political contexts, the journey down the road to consensus will never begin in the absence of flexibility, open-mindedness and a good dose of patience.
What part of my posts reflect your tactics do you not understand? You absolutely refuse to look at yourself in the mirror, but you do know enough to be outranged when someone sends you your own reflection. It’s not a pretty sight and furthermore, you become every bit as enraged as you seem to think I am. You are constitutionally incapable of seeing what a spiteful little vixen you become when your brick-wall logic is thrown back in you face.
No surprise there. Bigotry is always blind. Here’s another example you are bound to ignore: You are so driven by your hatred of illegals that you would actually weigh in on the side of transnationals and cast your vote for the party who empowers them to outsource your profession overseas and drive your own wages into the ground.
Well shut my mouth! Could it be that you have finally run out of insults in the face of the realities of logic and have arrived on the threshold of the next level where most other right-wingers eventually find themselves...running for the hills and back into the open arms of the choir members? You are big on cliché. Here’s one for you...you can run, but you can’t hide. Have a safe journey and I am “sending up a prayer” that you find the sanctuary you seek.
Easy on the eyes?
Are you kidding me?
It was me and, yep , I said it. Easy on the eyes!
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Come on, you made that way too easy! nm
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That's easy. Because he is the best candidate
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Easy, cuz it's true. sm
He's got you right where he wants you.
The truly uninformed are voting for the O.
The rest of us will try to counter that, though, and drag McCain over the finish line if we have to.
Anything is better than O and a democratic congress in power.
Naw, I'm not easy to offend s/m
I did change my mind though, if I have to eat that crow, could I have BBQ sauce instead of just plain ole salt and pepper??? LOL
It didn't come easy, but what are you going to do
I still really feel Obama is the wrong person for the job. There were just too many thing wrong and suspicious of this O guy. First everyone has to verify they are eligible by providing their bc except him. Then everyone is required to submit their medical records except him. In all truth I feel he bought his way in. There is just too much that is not sitting right with me about him. And I'm going to keep my eye on him. When I hear of something wrong you can bet your bippy I'm going to post.
In all honesty I hope he does well for the people, but I know from past experience (B. Clinton) they always break their promises with lame excuses. When my taxes go up you bet I'll be on this board screaming and shouting. Too much serious stuff going on in the world and I don't trust him. He has lied to us throughtout the campaign and I'm not real thrilled with people running around thinking (and actually believing) he is the messiah, and the latest I read was people said he is Moses.
So I just will say a prayer for the country tonight we're going to need all the prayers we get.
But he won and he deserves a congratulations. It was a long race. And at the same time can we please stop bashing McCain and Palin. They did the best they could and McCain gave a sincere and gracious speech with good words about Obama.
Rest easy
she'll probably have you posthumously converted and you will be okey-dokey in the hereafter. Thanks a boatload, Sis!
Easy to see just from the crashers on this board.
Unfortunately there are people who still believe the lies of Bush, even now that he's finally said something honest: That there were NO WMDs and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Sorry, you just make it 'way too EASY.
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You'll be surprised how easy it is
I cooked a Crown Roast of Pork in the D.O. once. A pineapple upside down cake is a very easy dessert to start with. I won 1st place with it the first time I entered a contest. I also make a killer Pecan Cobbler. Just got it perfected for the D.O. and will cook it in the next contest we enter. It's easy too. I made one for the bean supper fund raiser last Saturday just to see what people would think about it and based on the way people came back for seconds I'd say I've got a possible winner. With the holidays coming up if you would like the recipe...well, I love to share my recipes.
and it is way too easy to irritate the dems
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It's easy...all you have to do is read the posts.
The only difference between the hate crimes in Los Angeles and the posts on the Politics and Faith forums is a can of spray paint. Using a keyboard to spew hate and intolerance is just as disgusting.
Don't mind him in my face. He's easy
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