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Either way, he could have refused to work on the case. NM

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-05
In Reply to: He did not take the case pro bono. The firm he worked for did. SM - MT

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    In case link doesn't work
    I will post it this way too. :)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/14/60minutes/main3833797.shtml
    UAW has refused......... sm
    any cuts in pay until their current contract expires in 2011. Of course, if the companies sgo under, that will become a very moot point. I think a better approach would be to take a cut in pay now and then renegotiate in 2011 when things are, hopefully, better. OTOH, there is no guarantee that this bailout would even save the companies, so it may be a moot issue anyway.
    You are so right... many refused to see
    nm
    Yes....probably the ones who refused to evacuate...
    as former Gov Kathleen Blanco alluded to in her interview today. She has certainly backed off on blaming the feds. That being said...there obviously were failures. They started with local authorities not abrigating authority to the "feds" like Bush begged Blanco to do. You missed those press conferences where she said she would call for help when she needed it? Well by the time she called for help it was too late...and her call then was "Mr President I need help send all you have" which is exactly what he did...but too late.

    I don't know why we have to keep beating this dead horse. That is past, lessons were learned at both levels. I have been watching Ray Nagin today and he is NOTHING like the Ray Nagin before, belligerent and saying he could handle it. Now he is on the offensive talking to those who refuse to evacuate...because he knows that had a great deal to do with the humanitarian disaster. Let me paraphrase: "If you refuse to evacuate, you are on your own." "If anyone is caught looting, I mean ANYONE, you will be taken straight to Angola and placed in the general population (read up on Angola prison...). You will NOT be held in New Orleans. You will go straight to Angola prison." No due process, no nothing, he is shipping them straight to Angola. I never thought I wuld hear a Democrat say to skip due process. That is a VERY different Ray Nagin. And Bobby Jindal and Kathleen Blanco...well, enough said. Bobby Jindal started preparations before Gustav was even named a hurricane. THAT is the kind of leadership that would have helped make the toll of Katrina MUCH less. That, and the fact that the people of New Orleans are not having hurricane parties like they were last time (remember the footage on Bourbon Street before Katrina hit?) They are evacuating. Thank God!
    He refused to be released from prison...
    because there were men who had been there longer than he had and he felt using his dad's clout to get him out was wrong for those men, and it was, and that takes the kind of courage and integrity Barack Obama can only dream about.

    How can you say he never regretted it? Does Obama regret throwing a friend and mentor, the man who baptized his children, under the bus for his political career? This is a man you should trust? Hello??
    Bye, Administrator. You have refused to control them, and your trolls have won.

    You've been unable or unwilling to control these pests.  They refuse to stay on their own Conservative board because they're not happy unless they are personally attacking posters.


    I can't begin to speculate how many other people you've lost because of this hateful group, but you've lost me.


    To any thinking, intelligent people out there who woul like to visit a GOOD site where abusive trolls can be IGNORED, please visit Bill Maher's site.  The topics and information are limitless, freedom of speech is guaranteed for ALL, and although there are a few hateful people there, it's nothing compared to the hate and anger and rage that is found on this board.  You don't have to be subjected to personal attacks in a street gang mentality that happens here because you can simply click the ignore button.  All in all, I believe a truer, better representation of what America really is can be found there.


    Bye, all. 


    Those who have refused to post respecfully and with knowledge of

    banned.  I can't tell you how important it is to show professionalism when posting.  As well, I have posted in the past that I will not tolerate disrespect of the President of the United States, regardless of what your political affiliation is.  Whether the President were Democrat, Republican, or polka dotted, this site expects posters to post with respect where the President is concerned or not at all. 


    Administrator
    MTStars


    Good for Fox News...they refused to run an ad against Obama...

    put together by a private citizen (not the McCain campaign), the same guy who was behind the swift boat ads against Kerry.  They could have run it and they chose not to.  Good for them!  I admit, there is cause for concern about Obama's connection to Ayers, but that kind of ad where it is mean accusation and innuendo with no real proof shouldn't be run, in my opinion.  Good for them for stepping up.   


    What if their coach refused to wear anything with their symbol on it? nm
    x
    She refused to answer the moderator's questions!
    Sarah Palin had certain talking points that had been drilled into her, and she was going to get them out tonight by hook or by crook. She decided not to pay attention to the moderator's questions and just respond at whim with the canned talking points word for word. Although, she didn't officially crash and burn, she definitively did not show one ounce of intelligence. She was more like a Chatty Cathy Doll. Pull her string and she will give you a canned talking point. Pull it again...you get another canned talking point! Heaven help the entire earth if this wacko is elected to office!
    Bush did reach across the aisle. They refused to
    nm
    Bill Clinton gets part of the blame == refused to take out bin Laden...sm
    when he had the chance.



    get off my case
    Did it irk you that I asked AG to post here?  Did it get you so upset that you had to repost a previous post?  For pete sake, what is your problem?  You are filled with hate, absolute hate and anger.  You need to chill.  When you disagree with someone, you continue on and on and on and on, never letting up with the other person.  GET OFF MY CASE.  If my posts enrage you as so obviously they do, DO NOT READ THEM.  You are so whacked out that you state I would chain myself to the WH with explosives.  When I read that, I just about coughed up the soda I was drinking I could not believe any sane person would post something like that.  As much as I know you are an angry person, no doubt with rage in your heart, I would NEVER EVER think that of you or post something so evil like that about you.  Now, Im saying good bye to you as its obvious through you posts over time you cannot post to me without attacking me, so skip my posts, delete them and MYOB when it comes to me and my opinions. 
    I second Kam's why. I also don't believe that that will be the case s/m

    If you are looking at the primary turnouts, record numbers are turning out on the Democrat side, and on the Republican side fewer are turning out than did in 2004 and 2000, and if that trend continues it bodes well for whatever Democratic candidate ultimately gets the nomination. Also, should that candidate be Hillary Clinton, what candidate on the Republican side is, for lack of a better word, sweeping the voters off their feet, whether with agenda or personality? McCain? Huckabee? Romney?, which one?


    Actually, the only two candidates that I think have the qualities of real zeal and enthusiasm are Barack Obama and Ron Paul.  Ron Paul isn't going to get the nomination, Obama may or may not, and if not, if the Democrat turnouts remain high, and in general the country truly wanting a different direction, they are going to elect a Democrat this time, and if it is Clinton she will be elected, even if she has no more zeal or charisma than Huckabee, McCain or Romney.


    That's what I think anyway.


     


    Just in case.
    You accused me earlier of being a racist and posting racist posts. I challenged you to find one post I did and you can't find one. You tried to use something I said after you accused me. I also read through all my posts and there are no racist remarks. When I referred to Michelle not talking like a black woman I was referring to your typical stereotyping us because we don't always talk or write the way you think all black people do. You stereotype and assumed I was white because why, I didn't talk like my friends? I'll say it again. Michelle Obama is one classy lady.

    You know one thing I was taught growing up is if I'm ever wrong to at least have the decency to say I'm wrong and am sorry, but I guess not everyone is like that.

    You are just wrong.
    Of course he would do it in that case, anyone would (sm)
    They shouldn't have to do elective abortions that are not for the health of the mother unless it is something they believe in. They should not be forced to do it. It is unethical to ask someone to do something they think is wrong. It would be unethical to ask a non-Christian to pray with a patient if they felt it was against their religion, even if the patient asked for it. In these cases, they should have someone else do it, who does not feel it is against their beliefs.
    yes, but the pie man in this case...
    was forced to sell pies on credit to people who could never pay for them by whom?.....NOT Bush.
    In this case
    x
    In this case.........
    it is convenient to maintain the belief that life begins with conception and ends at birth...........
    Oh, right. If that is the case, he should have been
    nm
    Hardly the case.
    Bush escaped that microsope you mentioned in the mainstream media until the kick-off of the 2008 election primaries. There was next to NO scrutiny of his ineptitude prior to that. Talk about getting a free pass. Besides that, there is little to no substance in this witch hunt so far and it is certainly nothing to fear, especially with those lopsided numbers in the House and Senate that have essentialy put the pubs into exile. I'm just starting to kick back and get comfortable and am going to enjoy watching every single last second of it all.
    If this were the case...(sm)
    then your statment would be relevant.  However, that is not the case.  The pay of the white male is the pay that everyone else strives for.  And why wouldn't a white male be able to sue if treated unfairly?  I'm pretty sure there isn't a law that prevents that.  Everyone else has had to go through that process for years and years.
    Well, in that case....(sm)

    the only thing that I can suggest is to buff up.  This might help:


    http://stronglifts.com/how-to-build-muscle-mass-guide/


    In that case....(sm)
    I think I've been "pubbed."  LOL.
    If that were the case...(sm)

    then wouldn't the same be true for alcohol?  Most people who drink don't make their own alcohol.  As far as addiction goes, we'll just have to disagree on that one.  There are studies on both sides, and they are a dime a dozen.  However, I have tried it, and as Obama said -- yes I inhaled because that was the point.  Did I form an addiction?  No.  As for new people trying it, well, I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone between the ages of 12 and 65 who could honestly say they haven't already tried it.


    My daughter is now 24 -- about the age when they start telling you about things they did as teenagers....LOL.  I don't know if you have kids or what age they might be, but when they get to that age and if they can openly communicate with you, you might be surprised at what you will find out.  No, I'm not saying that your kids would automatically fall into that category, but most do.


    If that is the case, why does someone like FOX
    nm
    That is not the case
    Social Security came into being and started paying out at the same time...there was no contributing to it for years before you got to receive payments. Each person's SS payments are funded by the other workers paying into the system. In addition, payments are determined by what you've earned historically and not by what you've paid in.
    In this case.....(sm)
    since we are talking about history, I would go with historical facts as opposed to theological references.
    Case in point.
    I never said what my political affiliation is, gt.  Mostly, I have talked about one subject, Bill Bennett, and not from a political viewpoint either.  You automatically assume that because I do not agree with you, I am a neocon.  But to hear you tell it, you don't make generalizations. But you see, you do, and this is made perfectly clear by this post.  Also, the misuse and overuse of the term neocon says a lot about you.  Do you realize how strongly you negate intelligent debate when you feel the need to label the person to whom you are speaking?
    In that case, you sure must not read much!!!
    Plus you seem kind of proud to be so darn ignorant.
    Writer, in case you do see this
    This is not the first time A.W. has had a hissy fit and said she's leaving....with that said the poster she talked about who was banned (something I didn't know until this thread) was the queen mother of hatred and never posted anything that was not extremely inflammatory.  She accused others of drinking while freely admitting she struggled with an alcohol problem.  She verbalized death wishes upon the president...so on and so on.  She attacked conservatives with her fangs bared.  It's really pretty sad that they cannot talk to people without taking broad issues so personally.    There are a few, (and I do mean a few here) while we definitely differ with them on a lot of issues are approachable and will have a decent conversation with you.  However, the amicable people are usually run off the board by the bitter ones who equate Bush and conservatives with Satan.  It's really sad they are stuck in such an immature state and/or overwrought with bitterness.
    In this case, I would say it was more Malloy...sm
    If it was truly financial, they just made their situation worse firing Malloy. He was very popular and many are cancelling their premium subscriptions to AAR.
    Once case scenario that happens sm

    One case scenario that happens regarding employed people getting health insurance through their employers is this. Unfortunately recessions happen. A covered person is laid off. Yes, they can continue coverage through COBRA. Some recessions are long lasting, the laid off person cannot find employment for months or longer. The bills meanwhile are racking up, if there are any savings it not so slowly gets eaten up, and the COBRA coverage is not cheap, to the tune of $600.00 a month or more. That person may very well want to hold onto their coverage but simply cannot.  They have to drop the coverage. Hopefully this person eventually is able to get another job that also has health insurance benefits. They then have to go through another pre-existing condition waiting period as they had to drop their insurance and therefore lost their continuous coverage provision. Maybe that person falls seriously ill during that period with some pre-existing condition, and ...financially ruined for the rest of their life as a result..through no fault of their own.


    Yes, there are people who are able to afford health insurance but have a devil may care attitude...until they become ill, but there are many other scenarios that are occurring as well, and occurring more frequently. 


    Another problem is due to the high cost of health insurance fewer and fewer employers are even offering benefits, which leaves working people to attempt to secure individual policies, and in that market anyone can be denied coverage. It does not even have to be a "major" health condition. Heath insurance companies can, and do, deny people coverage due to "run of the mill" problems such as a little hypothyroidism, or that they broke a few bones as a kid while growing up. 


    I certainly don't have the answers, but tis rather a mess.


    well said, ditto, only in my case, it
    was cherokee on one side, who by the way, are among those legally here and least heard from and not whining although they certainly have enough reason. The other sides are Irish and English and then there are the Swedes who did 6 months time quarantee on Ellis Island before coming to Texas. She outlived 3 husbands and raised 5 children, 2 boys fighting in WWII and winning for one a bronze star and the other a purple heart and he rode into Berlin on a tank the day the Americans took it. The one with the bronze star saved a man's life at the cost of his own in the 50's on a light pole working for GE. They all grew up speaking Swedish and all learned English. In my case, I learned morse code and that will have to do for my second language.
    That may be the case. But it is up to individuals...
    whether or not to get down and wallow in that kind of stuff or rise above it. I just wish more would rise above it. I don't think Obama thinks, because he is running for President, his children should be fair game and he should just roll over and take it because of what he is doing in his life. At least I hope he wouldn't. And I find it sad that some of his supporters do. That is all I am saying.
    If that's the case, then one thing you might
    the fact that Obama's opposition has had a much longer time, including the entire primary seasion (which seemed to last forever) to put him down and promote character assassinating rhetoric. SP, an unknown from out of nowhere, has been on the scene almost one week. Seems like it may be a bit premature to draw any hasty conclusions until a little more time passes. There is still much about her that is unknown. For me, that is a yellow caution light at best.
    The case was about a teacher
    There was a case where they were trying to ban a teacher from wearing a cross.

    Well....that being the case...we only have this guy's word...
    that those figures are correct, but you accept those at face value? My whole point in this is that she did her job for the people who elected her...the people of Alaska. I don't see anything wrong with that.
    No I think it's another deadly case of
    8
    Case in point......
    The fact that I know you have not bothered to educate yourself on the Federal Reserve is the reason you continue to blame a certain party, the party you hate. That doesn't mean that party is to blame, just who you chose to blame because you refuse to take the time to discover why we are in this shape. Bush wasn't even born when the problem began and the institution that started the problem...

    Guess what? It is true. The Federal Reserve really does exist and will exist even when Obama is in office. And it will continue to manipulate you and your money and run your government and other governments as well. Who will you blame then?
    Anybody heard of this case?

    I had heard that there was some question as to where Obama was born ...


     


    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs


    I rest my case!
    Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

    We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

    that was proven to not be the case as well
    @@
    Oh yeah, in case you want to see what he can do for you...
    http://taxcut.barackobama.com/
    Well in this case it would be Obama

    dressed like he is in that picture.  All he needs is Osama Bin Laden with his arm around his shoulder and each one holding an automatic weapon.


    If that wre the case, why do you suppose that nobody
    The Black Panthers remind me of just how far things had to go and how hard they had to fight before black people in this country were given their civil rights. The Panthers are a part of that history and have as much right as anybody to be there. I would not feel the least bit intimidated by their presence and, in fact, would be grateful that we have come as far as we have since those day. Intimidation is in the eyes of the beholder. Get over yourself.
    Who cares what she has to say - she's a case
    Just another. She tells him to stop being a hater????? She should eat those words.

    Anybody who watches Newt and has read his books knows he is a highly intelligent gentleman who knows what he is talking about. Smart as a whip. Obama's administration would be a lot better off if they offered him a position, but then again Obama will not be uniting the two parties. It will be more separation and filled with liberals.
    I so pity you! You are such a sad case
    be wasted!
    i rest my case
    no need for further discussion, you proved my point!


    There ya go, I rest my case nm
    thanks!
    In case you missed it...
    The Catholic church has the freedom to produce the ad, NBC has the freedom to reject the ad, and everyone in this country has the freedom to choose whether or not they watch NBC. That is how it should be, freedom for everyone!