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Good idea!! nm

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-23
In Reply to: well then shame on us - red, yellow, black and white

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Good idea.
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Not a good idea!
I don't mean to sound snappy toward fellow progressives by any means, but what is the point of having a political discussion board if you don't want to discuss opposing views? Politics is a very confrontational subject, seems like - do you really just want to talk to people who agree with you? How do you learn to handle unpleasant people in real life if you don't want to talk to them online? These are sincere questions, I just would like to know what you think about them.

I admit I like a good verbal tussle and no doubt that colors my view, but that's just me:) If they set up a bashing board I'd be the first one over and there's no sense denying that. But what *do* you guys who want a separate board get out of a political discussion when there's no one challenging your views?
Good idea, but...
raise taxes on the insurance companies, and they have to pass that on to someone...in higher rates. Big ugly nasty vicious circle. They need to make healthcare a free market place. Make insurance companies complete like any other business. Make health care providers complete like every other business. But then health care workers would feel the pinch because health care providers would have to cut costs. Frankly, I don't see a really good answer, other than looking at social programs as a whole, and taking money from goofy stuff like studying how much gas is released in the atmosphere when a cow belches or billions to save some kind of bird in a swamp...that kind of thing should take second chair to insuring kids in my book. I am not against insuring kids...but if you are going to insure kids, you should insure ALL kids. Otherwise, how do you decide who gets insured and who doesn't? If you are going to have the government insure kids and monitor that, then ALL kids should be insured by the government to make sure ALL kids are treated the same by health care providers...rich kids and poor kids alike. Because some higher middle income families kids are not insured because their parents chose NOT to insure them so they can spend that money elsewhere. That is documented. I know people personally who are healthy and their kids are healthy and they don't want to pay the premiums, and they know if something catastrophic happens legally they cannot be denied health care and can pay it out at 50 bucks a month. I don't like that attitude, but that attitude is out there. The whole thing is so skewed. I am not sure there is a good answer. All I know is, they cannot keep taxing, taxing, taxing Americans to death to pay for programs...or sooner than later ALL Americans will need to be on programs and who is going to pay for it then? Sigh.
good idea
I should probably do that for ALL the candidates including the Republicans.  It's hard though to find a non-partisan website to wade through all the slanted rhetoric. 
good idea :) nm
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Might be a good idea s/m

to go to snopes.com and search for Alaskan Anti-Palin Rally and go all the way to the bottom and listen to the radio personality.  Then talk about bias.  No question of truth when the TV anchor is shown playing the video of the radio commentator.


VOTING FOR LOU DOBBS!!!!


Good idea!!! s/m

First I would not waste time spinning around in the chair.  We've seen too much of that already.


1.  I agree.  I would pre-schedule the meeting to take place immediately after the inauguration and I would have the meeting without pre-conditions.  I would let it be known that whether my party affiliation was Democrat or Republican,  we WOULD put partisanship aside and work for the good of the PEOPLE who elected (or hired us) for the job.  I would let it be known that I would address the NATION and keep them informed of progress and that I WOULD name names.


2.  I would request (and EXPECT it to be done) a copy of the budget be on my desk with copies for all the members of Congress and we would use it as as an agenda at the above friendly meeting.  I would present myself as the leader for the PEOPLE.  No, I have not seen the movie Dave. 


3.  Whoa!  It isn't just MTs who are hurting, don't forget Joe the Plumber.  I would not TRY to stop jobs from going out of the country.  I would do it.  I would  hammer away until I got a bill passed that would penalize companies big time who send jobs out of the country and use that money to balance the budget.  If Congress could not do this, I would take it to the PEOPLE and name names.


Praise God we're seeing a few people post who actually have ideas!  With this as a starting point, we might just possibly start a movement for REAL CHANGE. 


Thanks aw, good idea nm
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that seems like a good idea to me -
how many times have we typed reports where the physician is waiting on reports from another hospital and cannot render the proper care because he does not know the background and the medical records department is closed?

I think that having a database somewhere that everyone can access is good. Now, I don't want the government telling my doctor what he can and cannot do for me.
LOL....oh no...a dem with a good idea.
I don't believe it.  LMAO!  I'm all for putting up a fence on the border.  I've watched those TV shows about gangs and I keep hearing about this MS 13 and frankly.....it scares the sh!t out of me about as much as Bin Laden does.  Seriously.......
So you think in the middle of a war, this is a good idea? sm
This perfectly illustrates that your hatred for Bush exceeds any care for the safety of Americans.  
Your second idea sounds good....... sm
but it may be a moot point. The legislation is struggling in the Senate and W himself is lobbying for Senate to pass a bailout. Looks like the automakers may go home empty handed.

I'm not in favor of the bailout, but neither am I in favor of more people losing their jobs if it could be prevented, so I don't know what the best solution is. Over the past couple of days, Sony, Office Depot, and a mining company (name escapes me at the moment) have all laid off thousands of workers. I'm just wondering where it all will end.
actually, I think a good idea for both sides...
after they pick the candidates, let them post their platform and what they are going to do, let us do our research and decide that way, without ads and gotcha politics...and put the millions to the national debt instead of campaigning. I vote YES on that one. :-)
Good idea. I second that suggestion.
Thanks.
sounds like a good idea to me!
I can remember when insurance companies did that before and they were not going out of business. So you think because my child is born with a medical problem, she should not get health insurance?
Self-Censorship. Good Idea.
Yes, great plan, lefty.

From now on, only listen to things that are in total agreement with your particular leftist bent.

That should prove helpful.

And I, for my part, will ONLY listent to the weather report when it calls for sunshine.

Yeah. That'll show 'em.

Pfffft.
You don't know it's not a good idea for BIGGER
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Government intervention is NEVER a good idea!
Any time the government becomes involved in ANYTHING, the price tag always quadruples and takes FOREVER to complete, if ever! That's just the facts.
Government intervention is NEVER a good idea!
Any time the government becomes involved in ANYTHING, the price tag always quadruples and takes FOREVER to complete, if ever! That's just the facts.
Government run ANYTHING is NEVER a good idea! Call
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Anyone who thinks that socialized medicine is a good idea
should try out military medicine for awhile and see how it goes!
Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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Good post....truth doesn't always sound good
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A better idea. SM
Make everyone register as many other sites do.  That way, you have to keep the sam identity.  As far as the rest, both sides are equally at fault.  Using the "They" term and the "You" term are shallow.  I doubt the board is under new management.  You allegation that posters got special treatment is another delusion.  But since you won't be responding to me, I guess I don't need to let that bother me.
You have know idea who or what *they* are. sm
I would not make such statements about something you know nothing about. You read a story, it said what you believed and you ran with it.  My gosh, how do you ever learn anything?   Do you think I judge all liberals by these people?  Freepers are large contributors to charities.  They have a race on now to get together donations for Katrina victims. They are huge supporters of the military.  I have been going to their site for years and I have never seen anyone threaten to kill anyone. But it's something you want to believe and so you will. It's too darn bad.  There are liberals who post there, too.  But, of course, you don't know that. 
First of all, you have no idea what I would do
Clinton wasn't my favorite president but I have never hated him with the vitriol that you on the left have hated Bush.

As far as Lurker's thoughts about Bush they are assertions and not proven fact and I for one think they are hogwash--not to mention grossly, grossly over exaggerated.

Is that enough of an answer for you? Probably not...nothing is ever enough for you all.
I think I get where you get this idea
It's because all the baseless charges against Bush have truly been baseless. Let's talk about the void-of-actual-fact USA Today article about the so-called NSA release of private information. That has pretty much been debunked and exposed as yet another attempt to cast doubt on Bush. There are numerous other examples, and let's not forget *Rathergate*

Just because liberal journalists have a vendetta for this president and aren't smart enough to get anymore than forged documents to back up their reports does not mean the press has given the president a free pass. They just suck as journalists. That's not Bush's fault.
You have no idea.

but you have illustrated many points made about you here very well.  That isn't bashing, my dear, it's called truth.


Now that's an idea!!!
I'm all for that! She seems to be a real go-getter!!
I have no idea.

A friend of mine has been totally hot to trot on this story & has kept sending me stuff about it.  I haven't for obvious reasons. 


I was reluctant to even post that on this board.  It's become so obnoxious here that I may as well be on one of the left-wing sites. 


I've found a much more fun place to chat. Lots of conservatives and Libertarians, and much more interesting than this jazz over here. 


 


I have no idea.........
Guess I was raised by *gasp* liberals............frankly, no-bah-dee's bidness, but it is disheartening to see gay couples who love each other who cannot make end-of-life decisions for each other or any of the other "benefits" that heterosexual couples take for granted.
Hey I have an idea for
Since he is going to make all these changes and what not, instead of starting new government programs, why doesn't he just take all the money he is getting for his campaigns and help out people who are losing their homes, jobs, etc? Kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" approach? Then he would really be "different" from other politicians and I bet anyone he helped or saw him helping others would vote for him and he wouldn't have to waste time campaigning and making ads...


Just a thought :-D
not a bad idea.
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I'm not against the idea
of helping people who are helping themselves... regarding helping people with their loans because in turn it will help out the economy... this just seems to be the best suggestion I've heard so far but then again, I've not heard many. I will say this... I personally know someone who has multiple mortgages out on their home, in order to buy new vehicles, etc. not one cent put back into their home. Now I agree that people like that should not be helped, on the other hand, I also find it disgusting that anyone would lend them that money to begin with.
i had NO idea that was said
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Here is an idea

Because there is a lot of voter fraud (no matter what side you believe there is fraud on) do you think a voting system like this would work and if not why.


First, you do away with electronic voting.  Everything is paper ballots.


You have a regular sheet of paper divided in half (top and bottom).  At the top you have the name of one candidate with the word democrat or republican underneath the name (all in huge letters for those who have a hard time reading), followed by a picture of him/her (for those who can only recognize the candidate by their photo), followed by a big huge box.  Same for the other candidate on the bottom of the paper.  The big huge box is for people to put an X, checkmark or scribble inside the box.


Then, before you vote you will be asked by the people at the voting booths if you understand how to vote, if not they explain that you can x, check or scribble inside the box next to the candidate you want to win.  Each polling place gets only the exact number of ballots (pieces of paper) as there are people registered.  Also well ahead of time you tell people if they need to register to vote they need to do so ahead of time at the DMV and nowhere else (to avoid fraud).  If they wait and don't register they will not be qualified to vote and will have to wait til next election and that's just tough because they know the rules ahead of time. 


At the end of the night after the polls close there is a large group of people from both sides, they open up the boxes, take out the ballots and count them and on a huge blackboard tally up the votes.  There are a huge number of people from both sides watching, so there is no chance of fraud.  At the end of counting their tally is then sent into the main headquarters, again with a lot of people watching/listening from both sides so there is no chance of fraud. 


I've just often wondered that seeing as there is so much voter fraud and a lot of it with computers (college kids are able to hack into the system), why don't we go with paper ballots (and nothing with little hanging chads).  This is a huge box so you know right away who they voted for.


What do you think?  I can't figure out why there is voter fraud at each election and it never gets fixed.  Also, would you be upset it you had to wait until 11/5 to find out the true winner of an election.


Also, I think if a county or state is found guilty of voter fraud all their votes should be tossed out, no matter whether it is on the republicans side or democrats.  Rules should be noted ahead of time that if you are caught of voter fraud you will be treated like the children you act like and your privilage will be taken away and if there are any angry citizens they need to take it up with the people in charge of the voting system in their county.  This should be a law and take effect that way people know way ahead of time the consequences of fraud or any mis-doings and there will be no option to appeal.  You knew ahead of time and you pay the consequences if guilty.


Just frustrated with voter fraud every single election and there just has to be a way to put a stop to it.  Your thoughts?


I had no idea
what the heck?  I just went to that website.  Is this just one wierdo's website who thinks that he is the messiah?  Or are you saying to me that there are real people out there, ordinary, everyday people, who actually believe that he is sent from God?  Because I watch the news all day long, was gonna vote for O, and I have never, ever seen anything like this here. 
You have no idea what you are asking for
part of me hopes Obama wins just so you all can see him for what he really is.

If he wins there will be no more balance of power. We will have a liberal congress with a liberal president who elects liberal judges. But I guess that's what you want, huh? Lets forget family values, moral ways of life. If it's inconvenient, kill it. If you want to marry your dog, go ahead. Don't want to work? We'll take care of you.


I have no idea
I have only voted once before when I was in the military and I did it by absentee ballot because I was overseas.  So, who knows?  I just left it in God's hands.  But the above poster stated that it shouldnt matter.  I hope she is right!
That is when the idea was first put out by the guy....
and may not even have been what the original poster was talking about. The idea was first put out there in 2000. If is still on the net, so the "idea" is still out there. I had no idea any such thing ever existed. That is why I posted it. The original poster might not have been referring to that particular website. Sorry for confusion.
Thanks, BWT... This gives me a idea sm
of what he said. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
a really bad idea!
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You have NO idea.
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Where do you get the idea
that foreign made is better value?  My husband drives a 1996 Ford F150.  It just turned over 200,000 miles and has never had a problem.  Our friends have a 1994 Dodge Ram that just turned 300,000 and they just put a new trany in it.  Another friend has a 1994 Ford F150 that has over 300,000 on it...never any major repairs.  These are all farm trucks that pull heavy LOADED trailers all the time.  So what's wrong with that value for American made?  Oh yeah, the propaganda tells us that foreign cars are better and less expensive.  They are NOT.
My idea is this........
if you want change don't expect it to come from more of the same.  My definition is simply that I would like to see people appointed who have honesty, integrity and true concern for the American citizens and those with COMMON SENSE if there is such a thing.  I think we've had just about enough "experience" in Washington D.C.  They do have the Constitution to guide them, something the "experience" is doing it's dead level best to destroy.  As for who these inexperienced people might be, I don't have a clue.  I wouldn't mind vetting them myself.  For starters I might suggest Governor Mike Beebe from the Great State of Arkansas.
Is this your idea...s/m
of

SATURDAY NIGHT

entertainment.

You have my condolences.
Can you not afford something better than that?
Oh, yes, now I remembered you are a 'starving MT.
Now there's a novel idea!
Part of the problem we're in as a nation, I believe, is because people can't get past their "liberal/conservative" viewpoint to think for themselves.  I also believe the crooks (on both sides) are counting on such sheep in their base to allow them to carry out their crookedness.
The US's idea of a just war? (sm)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/06/gaza.hospital/index.html#cnnSTCText


The other side:


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200916191833159347.html


http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/20091585448204690.html


The idea
that all news channels are biased is in itself based on a Fox news talking point so her premise is flawed to begin with.  I think rather than an actual question she is disguising a propaganda point in the form of a question.  There seem to be about 4 or 5 that are repeated here over and over endlessly.  Not much opinion here to see just same talking points repeated over and over.
Do you have any idea how

much murder goes along with some of these illegal aliens.....the drugs....the kidnapping, etc.  Arizona alone had 359 kidnappings in ONE year due to illegals and the drug cartel in Mexico.....are you friggin kidding me!!!!! 


Not only that but they are taking away jobs from Americans and tax payers are paying their way.  You have no problem with this? 


You have no idea.........
Did anyone see that special on TV about the people of Appalachia? They are so poor, you, in your nice warm house with cable TV and plenty to eat can't even comprehend. They have no fluoridated water, so they have no teeth. They have no "real" school system, so they are uneducated. Their diet is so unsubstantial because what LITTLE they get in food stamps doesn't cover the entire month. They dress in rags, they have no teeth, no car and no money - AND to top it off - there are no jobs (not that they would be hired anyway). You have absolutely NO CLUE how desperately poor a LOT of people in this country is. You tell me how those people can escape the poverty they were born into in order to pull themselves up by their bootstraps? The stereotyping BS I read on this board shows some to be more ignorant than the uneducated poor I am talking about.