I've gotta ask, since McCain wasn't born in the USA,
Posted By: Marmann on 2008-11-26
In Reply to: see link inside - We deserve the truth
would you have been as angry and demanding that the will of the people be ignored if McCain had won the election?
And where is your outrage over Bush's complete lack of regard and respect for the Constitution over the last eight years?
This whole thing about Obama is ridiculous. If it were true, don't you think the Republicans would have had a field day with that as an issue?
This is the highest office in the land. Of course, Obama was vetted and found to be eligible to hold that office.
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If Obama wasn't born in the US
then he shouldn't be president. Why? Because if we open that precedent, than anyone from any nation can run for president, and seeing as how many people will vote based on what they hear (or think they hear), all it would take would be a charismatic, young, exciting, progressive, man or woman from another country to come in with a hidden agenda and run for president and get voted in and then show us what he or she really had in mind for our country.
As for people who voted without any idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovcdb6csHBE
On the second one not one person could really name any specifics, just regurgitated whatever they heard on the t.v., internet, speeches, etc. I especially love the one that said "he's beautiful!" I didn't realize that was a point for voting...
You can also listen to the Howard Stern interviews where they listed Mccain's platforms as Obama's and asked people if that is why they were voting for Obama and they all said "yeah! definitely!" I didn't want to paste those because of the language though.
I'm not saying all of his supporters were dimwits, but a lot of them just voted for him because he was new, young, "hip", black, and a smooth talker. Believe me, being a 22-year-old college student, he appealed to me at first too, until I found out the things he stood for.
I've gotta put mine where it will grow without
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Dear I've just gotta, we're obviously...
...wasting our breath on these people. When journalists give one another awards for agreeing with each other, is that really the measure of journalistic integrity? Or just one hand washing the other? That a conservative journalist occasionally gets such an award is probably just to avoid the perception that the liberals are rigging the game.
McCain wasn't desperate and wasn't behind in the polls
In fact, they have been neck and and neck, and McCain has been gaining in the polls while Obama has been slipping. McCain could have taken the easy way and kept the stable course and picked safer, sure. Instead, he picked a maverick leader like himself, who isn't afraid to get in there and make changes even if it goes against their own party. I believe he wanted to say that the Republicans are the party for change, and wanted to make a bold statement. I've seen statements at "other sites" as well where people are absolutely joyous at this pick.
And McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.
but thanks for reminding us how desperate the right-wing fringers are. The sources that have debunked this myth are abundant. Try googling snopes or fact check for starters or simply obama citizenship.
It doesn't matter WHERE he was born. He was born to an American citizen so he is sm
a native American.
Obama was born in US, his FATHER was born in Kenya, check it out and sm
Do you really think the campaign would have gotten this far if he was born in Kenya? Did Hannity tell you that? LOL!!!!
natural born does not mean you have to be born physically in the US -
My daughter was born in Germany, but because I am an American she is an American. She has no problems and is considered natural born - that just means you did not have to go through the hoops to become an American citizen.
Well, I gotta see this. sm
I've been giving the TV a serious rest lately, just plain uninterested in the news lately. I'll check this out if I can catch it.
Thanks.
they gotta have something to say...
I was always told if you can't say something good, then just don't say anything at all...
looks like everybody was not raised that way!
Gotta wonder if you have always been
Did these things bother you AT LEAST AS MUCH as Chicago politics, to which so far Obama has not been directly or indirectly linked in any definitive way.
1) Torture. I think a little detail is in order here to help illustrate my point.
Forcing prisoners to crawl around on the floor while US soldiers rode them like donkeys.
Allowing poisonous snakes to inflict fatal bites on prisoners. In other words, premeditated murder in cold blood.
Stonings.
Shooting prisoners for minor misbehavior
Use of attack dogs.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl by two interrogators.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old son of an Iraqi general who was driven through the cold after he had been showered and who was smeared with mud in order to get his father to talk.
Forcing Moslem women to expose their breasts.
Forcing naked prisoners to have sex with each other.
Guards performing sodomy on boys while audio and video of the act was taped.
Urinating on detainees.
Stripping prisoners and threatening to rape them and their wives.
Blasphemy against Allah. Forcing Moslem prisoners to pray to Jesus.
Smearing feces on prisoners and forcing them to walk a straight line while their ankles were bound.
Severely beating prisoners while they were hooded and bound.
Videotaping and photographing male and female detainees, many times after arranging them in sexually explicit positions, other times forcing them to masturbate.
Keeping prisoners nakes for several days at a time.
Forcing male detainees to wear women's underwear, the ultimate humiliation to Moslem detainees.
Jumping up and down on a pile of naked detainees.
Placing a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.
Placing a dog chain around a prisoner's neck and posing him with a female officer.
Male guard raping female detainee.
Photographing smiling MP guards next to bodies of dead detainees.
Pouring phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainess with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening to rape.
2) Extraordinary redention.
3) Gitmo.
4) Dismissal of US atorneys scandal.
5) Valerie Plame.
6) The rest of the 169 PAGES of corruption and controversy links under the Bush Administration listed in Wikipedia.
You have a lot of nerve sending Emma T to the faith board after the countless times the Right-wing fringers abused this board for days and days at a time with their self-righteous indignations, all in the name of God and religion, when all she is tryig to do is express a little JOY, for God's sake.
Gotta wonder....
....what happens if millions of us default on our mortgates? Will the lenders foreclose on all of us? Foreclosure is a lengthy and expensive process, potentially ending in an eviction of you refuse to go quietly. What will they then do with all the houses and nobody to buy them? We all know how quickly vacant buildings deteriorate. Will we have suburban ghost towns?
Same with car payments. If we have mass defaults on car loans, how with the lenders handle all the repo's that will generate? What will they do with millions of repossessed cars?
What happens if millions of us can't pay our taxes? Doesn't have to be a formal tax strike. A lot of us who are ICs don't have taxes withheld. What if the self-employed cannot afford to send the quarterly payments? How many audits and prosecutions can the IRS handle? What will they do with those who are convicted of tax evasion? Will they have to let thousands of murderers and rapists out of the overcrowded prisons in order to put us in, to send a message? Will they be fighting with the banks over who gets first dibs on any assets left over after the house, the car and the big-screen TV are taken?
You've gotta be KIDDING ME!
"Vital interest": NOT.
"Whether or not the mission was clear": NOT.
Troops "well-equipped": DEFINITELY NOT!
"Whether or not there was an exit strategy" ABSOLUTELY NOT!!
"…take the use of force very seriously… guarded in my approach": NO FRIGGIN’ WAY!
AND FINALLY, THE MOTHER OF ALL "NOTS":
"I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
I gotta agree with you here....
....I also want to see her in interviews.
Gov. Palin is the real deal. She's a natural. I bet she will handle herself with grace under fire, no script, no teleprompter, no uhs, ers, or you knows.
Can't wait.
Whatever, Sam. Know ya gotta have that last word,
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Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?
I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
gotta love it
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You gotta be kidding
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They gotta vent their spleen somewhere! nm
I know. You gotta want to KNOW the truth to search for it. nm
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hey, I am a contributor too, but you gotta be kidding me
They do not need any more money to clean up the election cycle. They have a ton!
You gotta love the fact that he is actually one . . .
of the GOP "shining stars"!! They must be so proud!! 
Gotta love these! (The rest of you,
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grow a humor gland. In many people, this is located next to the smart gland.)
Just gotta have the last word, dontcha?
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Hey - they gotta pay off the dead people
Those Dems - they're a laff riot a minute, aren't they?
Friday funny. Yall gotta see this one! (see pic)
Chris Matthews... gotta love him.
I actually know him. He's like that in real life, I promise you. I didn't see this particular interview, so I can't comment on it directly. But, when Chris thinks someone is trying to evade a question, he keeps at it. True, sometimes the poor interviewee is actually trying to answer the question but can't get a word in edgewise. We have the same problem when we're with him!
He's a commentator, not a journalist. There's a certain amount of entertainment factor to his show, and MSNBC knows it. Viewers either love him or hate him, agree with him or violently disagree with him. As long as he can pull in ratings, he'll be there. If he doesn't appeal, it's easy enough to just switch him off. There are plenty of times I just smile and shake my head, "Oh, Chris is at it again!" And just click him right off.
In the mainstream media? You gotta be kidding....
they would fall on their collective swords before printing anything derogatory....well maybe bury it on page 30. lol.
Gotta love these drive-by posts
I love when folks stop by here, post a quick blurb. Especially when they put in nothing to support it, and they expect everyone to take it as fact. I guess we are supposed to take everything posted as fact.
Party on....I gotta get my kids ready for bed....lol nm
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I gotta wonder how long that "right of conscience..."
thing would last if someone refused to prescribe Viagra or Cialis or refuse to treat a "victim" in the ER who's had a "problem" for more than four hours (as advertised/warned on TV).
You just gotta love our political machine!
And we can't forget Sonny Bono!!
You gotta understand mentality of people
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Gotta love those double standards, eh?
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You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'
'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'
Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
More lambs to the slaughter.....oh lordy, gotta have
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Gotta love the reasoning of these pirates
'Killing our boys was aggression.' I guess you're just supposed to pay them the money and let them keep pirating. Nobody was ever supposed to fight back.
And, as they have threatened to 'deal harshly' with any US or French sailors they capture in the future, is there any reason why now we should not simply hunt down and blast each and every one of them out of the water? None that I can think of. I think they just declared war on us.
You gotta be pretty low in order to look up to these snake
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Gotta question for gay rights people.
Okay...I've been reading a lot about states accepting same sex marriage. I personally am not in favor of it, but that is my personal opinion. This is my question though. If we all compromised and allowed civil unions between gay couples, would you be willing to leave the definition of marriage between a man and a woman? I know that no one is going to be entirely happy with any outcome, but I was just curious if a compromise could be made on this subject.
There's one born every minute.
You seem to have bought the Dem's propaganda hook, line and sinker. What a sucker.
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
You know, not everyone was born in Boston...
and not everyone expresses himself/herself in the way you wish they would. That does NOT diminish their abilities. You still come off as sounding very condescending. I don't live in Boston and I don't have a master's degree, and I know a lot of "Joe six-packs." Who, incidentally, are very fine and not uneducated people. She does have a degree in journalism. She is not uneducated. Obama does not have a depth and breadth of experience, no more than she does. She has executive experience, he doesn't. He doesn't have foreign policy experience; that is why he has Joe Biden and 300 foreign policy advisors. She has balanced the state budget and has had surpluses which she returned to her constituents. She is very honest and open...much more so than Obama OR Biden.
Funny you should mention God...have you looked into black liberation theology?
Born-again believers
can't vote for Obama but they can vote for McCain, an admitted adulterer, proven liar, a man of proven poor judgment (Keeting-5 not to mention Gov Airhead)? They'll vote for McCain because he "says" he is against abortion? We know this how? I for one do not believe in abortion...for myself. I further believe that is an issue not for the government but between a woman, her doctor and her God. If she has no God, of course, she is not bound by His laws.
Yes, he war born in Hawaii which in in the US. nm
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He was born too early ...
If you read through the articles, you'll see that he was actually born before the law went into effect stating that people born in the Panama Canal zone were natural born citizens. Thus, he is not.
I'm sure the RNC felt that it was just a technicality that would never be called out.
I fear if this Obama stuff continues, it will be. And we'll be left with no candidates to vote for.
FYI, even though born in Iran, she is....sm
a natural-born American citizen.
As a born and bred
Chicago baby, I can say you are 100% right!
I was BORN in Europe, So what? What does this have to do
with anything and it is none of your business.
I assume that you are jealous that I am European born, therefore you are literally 'following' me around the forum with your pathetic comments.
Nothing better to do?
Look for another past-time.
I am a born again Christian and believe sm
homosexuality is wrong but THAT IS the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life!
Typical Republicant hypocrisy. Ya gotta love it!
He questions "whether encouraging homemakers to become lawyers contributes to the common good," and then he turns around and marries a LAWYER!
This isn't surprising to me at all. Bush's is doing nothing but taking us backwards in time, whether it regards science or civil rights. The only area that is moving forward by leaps and bounds and progressing at an alarming rate is the price of gasoline.
Gotta laugh at the morons who think everything's Bush's fault too
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Gotta love the double standards in politics.
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