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Gotta question for gay rights people.

Posted By: Trigger Happy on 2009-05-02
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Okay...I've been reading a lot about states accepting same sex marriage. I personally am not in favor of it, but that is my personal opinion.  This is my question though.  If we all compromised and allowed civil unions between gay couples, would you be willing to leave the definition of marriage between a man and a woman?  I know that no one is going to be entirely happy with any outcome, but I was just curious if a compromise could be made on this subject.


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Hey - they gotta pay off the dead people
Those Dems - they're a laff riot a minute, aren't they?
You gotta understand mentality of people
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Equal rights to you people is when
you get YOUR way and to he!! with whatever majority group doesn't like it or doesn't believe in it.  That is your idea of equal rights.
Rights under Saddam? Any country where people are tortured, mutilated, and killed is no better
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Well, I gotta see this. sm
I've been giving the TV a serious rest lately, just plain uninterested in the news lately. I'll check this out if I can catch it.

Thanks.
they gotta have something to say...
I was always told if you can't say something good, then just don't say anything at all...

looks like everybody was not raised that way!
Gotta wonder if you have always been
Did these things bother you AT LEAST AS MUCH as Chicago politics, to which so far Obama has not been directly or indirectly linked in any definitive way.

1) Torture. I think a little detail is in order here to help illustrate my point.
Forcing prisoners to crawl around on the floor while US soldiers rode them like donkeys.
Allowing poisonous snakes to inflict fatal bites on prisoners. In other words, premeditated murder in cold blood.
Stonings.
Shooting prisoners for minor misbehavior
Use of attack dogs.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl by two interrogators.
Sexual abuse of a 16-year-old son of an Iraqi general who was driven through the cold after he had been showered and who was smeared with mud in order to get his father to talk.
Forcing Moslem women to expose their breasts.
Forcing naked prisoners to have sex with each other.
Guards performing sodomy on boys while audio and video of the act was taped.
Urinating on detainees.
Stripping prisoners and threatening to rape them and their wives.
Blasphemy against Allah. Forcing Moslem prisoners to pray to Jesus.
Smearing feces on prisoners and forcing them to walk a straight line while their ankles were bound.
Severely beating prisoners while they were hooded and bound.
Videotaping and photographing male and female detainees, many times after arranging them in sexually explicit positions, other times forcing them to masturbate.
Keeping prisoners nakes for several days at a time.
Forcing male detainees to wear women's underwear, the ultimate humiliation to Moslem detainees.
Jumping up and down on a pile of naked detainees.
Placing a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.
Placing a dog chain around a prisoner's neck and posing him with a female officer.
Male guard raping female detainee.
Photographing smiling MP guards next to bodies of dead detainees.
Pouring phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainess with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening to rape.

2) Extraordinary redention.
3) Gitmo.
4) Dismissal of US atorneys scandal.
5) Valerie Plame.
6) The rest of the 169 PAGES of corruption and controversy links under the Bush Administration listed in Wikipedia.

You have a lot of nerve sending Emma T to the faith board after the countless times the Right-wing fringers abused this board for days and days at a time with their self-righteous indignations, all in the name of God and religion, when all she is tryig to do is express a little JOY, for God's sake.
Gotta wonder....

....what happens if millions of us default on our mortgates?  Will the lenders foreclose on all of us?  Foreclosure is a lengthy and expensive process, potentially ending in an eviction of you refuse to go quietly.  What  will they then do with all the houses and nobody to buy them?  We all know how quickly vacant buildings deteriorate. Will we have suburban ghost towns? 


Same with car payments.  If we have mass defaults on car loans, how with the lenders handle all the repo's that will generate?  What will they do with millions of repossessed cars?


What happens if millions of us can't pay our taxes?  Doesn't have to be a formal tax strike.  A lot of us who are ICs don't have taxes withheld.  What if the self-employed cannot afford to send the quarterly payments?  How many audits and prosecutions can the IRS handle?  What  will they do with those who are convicted of tax evasion?  Will they have to let thousands of murderers and rapists out of the overcrowded prisons in order to put us in, to send a message?  Will they be fighting with the banks over who gets first dibs on any assets left over after the house, the car and the big-screen TV are taken? 


 


You've gotta be KIDDING ME!

"Vital interest": NOT.


"Whether or not the mission was clear": NOT.


Troops "well-equipped": DEFINITELY NOT!


"Whether or not there was an exit strategy" ABSOLUTELY NOT!!


"…take the use of force very seriously… guarded in my approach": NO FRIGGIN’ WAY!


AND FINALLY, THE MOTHER OF ALL "NOTS":


"I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."


I gotta agree with you here....
....I also want to see her in interviews.

Gov. Palin is the real deal. She's a natural. I bet she will handle herself with grace under fire, no script, no teleprompter, no uhs, ers, or you knows.

Can't wait.



Whatever, Sam. Know ya gotta have that last word,
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Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?

I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
gotta love it
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You gotta be kidding
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They gotta vent their spleen somewhere! nm

I know. You gotta want to KNOW the truth to search for it. nm
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hey, I am a contributor too, but you gotta be kidding me
They do not need any more money to clean up the election cycle. They have a ton!
You gotta love the fact that he is actually one . . .
of the GOP "shining stars"!!  They must be so proud!!  
Gotta love these! (The rest of you,

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grow a humor gland.  In many people, this is located next to the smart gland.)


Just gotta have the last word, dontcha?
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Friday funny. Yall gotta see this one! (see pic)


Chris Matthews... gotta love him.
I actually know him. He's like that in real life, I promise you. I didn't see this particular interview, so I can't comment on it directly. But, when Chris thinks someone is trying to evade a question, he keeps at it. True, sometimes the poor interviewee is actually trying to answer the question but can't get a word in edgewise. We have the same problem when we're with him!

He's a commentator, not a journalist. There's a certain amount of entertainment factor to his show, and MSNBC knows it. Viewers either love him or hate him, agree with him or violently disagree with him. As long as he can pull in ratings, he'll be there. If he doesn't appeal, it's easy enough to just switch him off. There are plenty of times I just smile and shake my head, "Oh, Chris is at it again!" And just click him right off.
In the mainstream media? You gotta be kidding....
they would fall on their collective swords before printing anything derogatory....well maybe bury it on page 30. lol.
Gotta love these drive-by posts
I love when folks stop by here, post a quick blurb. Especially when they put in nothing to support it, and they expect everyone to take it as fact. I guess we are supposed to take everything posted as fact.
I've gotta put mine where it will grow without
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Party on....I gotta get my kids ready for bed....lol nm
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I gotta wonder how long that "right of conscience..."
thing would last if someone refused to prescribe Viagra or Cialis or refuse to treat a "victim" in the ER who's had a "problem" for more than four hours (as advertised/warned on TV).
You just gotta love our political machine!
And we can't forget Sonny Bono!!
Gotta love those double standards, eh?
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You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'

'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'

Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
More lambs to the slaughter.....oh lordy, gotta have
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Dear I've just gotta, we're obviously...

...wasting our breath on these people.  When journalists give one another awards for agreeing with each other, is that really the measure of journalistic integrity?  Or just one hand washing the other?  That a conservative journalist occasionally gets such an award is probably just to avoid the perception that the liberals are rigging the game. 


Gotta love the reasoning of these pirates

'Killing our boys was aggression.'   I guess you're just supposed to pay them the money and let them keep pirating.  Nobody was ever supposed to fight back. 


And, as they have threatened to 'deal harshly' with any US or French sailors they capture in the future, is there any reason why now we should not simply hunt down and blast each and every one of them out of the water?  None that I can think of.  I think they just declared war on us. 


You gotta be pretty low in order to look up to these snake
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Rights
And I have a right to protect myself, my beliefs, my religion my family, and my country. And I will. Did you see us going to them? They have been attacking us forever, not just on 9-11. Check it out and you will find this is true. I guess if we all just lie down and let them take over our country and attack us whenever they feel like it you will be happy. No country worthy of existence is war free. If you have no stomach for wars then knit things and make cookies or something. Maybe you could write a children's book about a perfect society and imagine yourself there. Just wear a blindfold or something and when others strike out at you then you can lie down and let them have at it. Finally, hatred is not "formulated" it is or is not. It is a feeling. It is prejudiced hostility or animosity. No one is without prejudice, just look at your own point of view versus mine. It is a human thing, hatred. The world is filled with humans, so it follows that hatred will occur along with all other human emotions, feelings, failings and triumphs.
what about his rights?
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If your rights were to be taken away...(sm)
would you be sick of hearing that too?
Typical Republicant hypocrisy. Ya gotta love it!

He questions "whether encouraging homemakers to become lawyers contributes to the common good," and then he turns around and marries a LAWYER!


This isn't surprising to me at all.  Bush's is doing nothing but taking us backwards in time, whether it regards science or civil rights.  The only area that is moving forward by leaps and bounds and progressing at an alarming rate is the price of gasoline.


Gotta laugh at the morons who think everything's Bush's fault too
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Gotta love the double standards in politics.


Gotta give Backwards Typist credit...

for picking an appropriate name for herself.


I've gotta ask, since McCain wasn't born in the USA,

would you have been as angry and demanding that the will of the people be ignored if McCain had won the election?


And where is your outrage over Bush's complete lack of regard and respect for the Constitution over the last eight years?


This whole thing about Obama is ridiculous.  If it were true, don't you think the Republicans would have had a field day with that as an issue?


This is the highest office in the land.  Of course, Obama was vetted and found to be eligible to hold that office.


gotta just love your out of context quotes....too bad you don't have the rest of

Well, I gotta tell ya - nothing is more creepy to me than Ann Coulter - now that's plain SCARY!

Gotta post one more on O's picks-Dept of Justice

This is getting ridiculous.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/


 


trash or treasure? gotta have checks and balances......
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Gotta love this woman. She needs to put her money where her mouth is...
buy an energy-efficient car and drive back to California. One plane trip from DC to CA puts more crud in the atmosphere than I don't now how many cars in a year's time. But I don't see AlGore or RFK Jr. driving Yugos instead of flying. They might try a little "Do as I do" instead of "Don't do as I do, do as I say." It might give them a tad more credibility...? lol.
Who is assigning rights?
Certainly not you with any credibility. If I lie I expect to be castigated over it because lying is immoral and demonstrates a weak and selfish character. Likewise if I KNOW someone else is a liar I will not fail to rebuke them - it is in fact wrong not to do so. Note also in the midst of your misdirected and uninformed tizzy that no names were mentioned. The liar knows who she is and you don't know, unless of course it's you. If so, change your ways. If not, look for better things to be indignant about - say, corporate oligarchies and the men and women dying in the streets to bring them obscene profits.
Special rights
I don't believe any group of people should have special rights, but I certainly believe they should have equal rights. I do believe homosexuals should be allowed to marry, be entitled to family health insurance coverage, etc. I am not sure what special rights homosexuals are looking for, other than fair treatment. If we continue to look at them as sinners, which I cannot believe God created a whole group of people and they are all sinners because they are homosexual, they will always be thought of as outcasts, as other races were (and still are) treated in this country.

Hopefully your children will never have to make the abortion decision, but I have learned to never say never. My best friend is the daughter of an Assembly of God minister, and she had an abortion at age 16. She has never told her parents to this day (24 years later).


The child has no rights?
Have you viewed the video referenced below? Do you really think abortion should be a method of birth control?
he doesn't get any rights
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