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I am ready to talk voter fraud with a pub

Posted By: any day of the week. sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: So voter fraud in ང doesn't count? - is that your point? goes deeper

You can cry wolf 'til the cows come home on this, but it's not going to change those poll numbers except maybe in a downward direction. People are fixated on the one topic your candidate refuses to talk about. Your smear campaign is so intense that we all have smear fatigue by now and even if you could dig up any sort of legitimate attack, nobody outside the choir is listening. Don't you get that?


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Google voter fraud 2000, voter fraud 2004 and
The pubs have been down this road before.
Voter fraud by democrats ...sm
Being a big problem is a huge myth put forth by repubs. Don't believe Fox News and the like. Just Google it. The extent of the problem has been wildly exaggerated. (I wish I could find the link I had on this because it was nonpartisan, but I didn't save it.)

Now if you want to talk about voter suppression fraud OTOH, the Repubs are experts on that. Here's one article:

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Using the Department of Justice, friendly governors, and its usual propaganda outlets, the GOP has propagated the myth of voter fraud to purge the rolls of non-Republicans.

Read it at:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_republican_war_on_voting
O is not under investigation for voter fraud
First of all, "voter fraud" is a bit hard to prove BEFORE the election. ACORN has been targeted by right-wingers for the past 38 years, since the day of its inception. While I do not condone it, this comes as no surprise that poverty-stricken workers who are paid by the signature and have quotas would turn in falsified statements. Barack Obama did not tell them to do that.

Nobody is swallowing anything, including your deluded ramblings. Those soup kitchen patrons, rock concert audiences and homeless are American voters with much more human dignity than you are able to display. We do not live under a Nazi fascist system. Their votes are equal to yours.

The kind of hatred you hold says a lot about you. You have a flock mentality. Original thought or ideas are beyond our grasp. It takes a lot of energy to harbor that kind of hate. Your life will be cursed until you let that go, and your campaign will be doomed to failure if you give Americans so little credit as to think that anyone in their right mind would want to join you and subscribe to such trash.

By the way, just how is McCain going to fix that pesky economic crisis you are trying so diligently to avoid acknowledging?
Voter fraud does not register with SS# and
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The purpose of investigating voter fraud...sm
It is not to be able to go back and forth, but to get to the core of the problems and solve them. On this board, you will see articles about voter fraud against liberal voters. That's not saying it doesn't happen on both sides, but which do you think WE are concerned about.
Acorn voter fraud in Detroit...
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383
Google ACORN and voter fraud....
they have a political arm who Democrats use to register new Democratic voters. Problem is, they use illegal tactics to do so. Four under indictment in Missouri from 2006; right now Detroit is investigating voter fraud because of fraudulent registrations, all submitted by ACORN.

Obama used to be their lawyer back in Chicago. He trained their operatives during annual conventions. That is a matter of record. He failed to publish $800,000 in donations from them, recently corrected by his campaign.
Explain what you want fixed? The voter fraud
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Ruling on Ohio voter fraud.....hmmmmm
http://thurbersthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/breaking-federal-court-says-ohio.html
So voter fraud in ང doesn't count?
Voter fraud of this organization is only the tip of the problem. This is a corrupt organization in so many other ways, it should be very troubling to everyone but because so many of you who want Obama in office regardless of the consequences don't even want to hear the involvements he is in, is the very reason we are on a path of ignorance.

This organization is involved in so much garbage it should be shut down altogether and probably will after the election but as long as Obama is still in the running, no democrat wants to actually go after them for obvious reasons. But even the democrats will go after them when the election is over. Many of them despise this group.
One that doesn't care if it takes voter fraud to
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Pubs wrote the book on voter fraud.
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ACORN bribing voter fraud with cigarettes
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Obama campaign launches voter fraud web site

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-campaign-launches-voter-fraud-web.html


 


 


We are ready
I too have heard the same thing about O's safety. It truly saddens my heart when I hear this. I truly hope that all it is is rumors spread by sick people. I'd also want to get down to the bottom of it and find out who started the rumor and make it stop. I on the other hand believe the opposite of the country. I believe the country is ready for a black president. The US is a very big place and I think while you may run into racists in any area, each area is just such a small part of the whole country. I do believe the country is more ready for a black president than they are a woman president. I am a woman and I do not want a woman president and I know lots of men are voting for O because if she gets in there the men in the country will be destroyed. If we had a different woman running it might be different, but her past speaks for itself. However, with all that said, we should also remember that he is half white. It's funny that people refer to him as a black person, but because his mother was white why don't we ever respond or say he's also half white. Just doesn't make sense to me, if someone is half black/half white why are they referred to as one or the other. I'm half Puerto Rican, but my other side (Irish) is what I look more like. Sometimes I have to remind people that refer to me as white that I am half puerto rican and they just look at me odd. The other thing to remember is that all the most of the southern states voted overwhelmingly for O and not the other. I think if someone is so stupid to vote (or not vote) for someone because of their race then they will vote McCain. I do understand your comment about liberals and god. I think its just that the republicans are so "in your face" with their religion and dems are more laid back not letting you know where they stand on their beliefs in god. We all have different beliefs on religion, but I can't stand the people who wear their religion on their sleeve and throw it in your face and consider you a heathen because you don't belong to "their group" - sorry....I am actually talking about my own relatives....too sad a story...and that's a whole nother topic not for this board.
I was ready to go to war on 9/11
but I didn't know we were going to do the Iraqi freedom thing, I thought we were going to hunt down bin Laden who orchestrated the disaster.  Must have misunderstood.
The Voter
The voter...that is where the shoe leather hits the carpet.
Most OPs know he is a fraud. SM














A statement from the American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council
© Indian Country Today February 04, 2005. All Rights Reserved
Posted: February 04, 2005
by: Dennis Banks
Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, and Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa -- Guest columnists

Ward Churchill was scheduled to speak at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y.on Feb. 3. His appearance was canceled by the college after he caused a public furor over his loathsome remarks about the 9/11 tragedy in New York. AIM's Grand Governing Council has been dealing with Churchill's hateful attitude and rip-off of Indian people for years.

The American Indian Movement Grand Governing Council representing the National and International leadership of the American Indian Movement once again is vehemently and emphatically repudiating and condemning the outrageous statements made by academic literary and Indian fraud, Ward Churchill in relationship to the 9/11 tragedy in New York City that claimed thousands of innocent people's lives.

Churchill's statement that these people deserved what happened to them, and calling them ''little Eichmanns,'' comparing them to Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann who implemented Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate European Jews and others, should be condemned by all.

The sorry part of this is Ward Churchill has fraudulently represented himself as an Indian, and a member of the American Indian Movement, a situation that has lifted him into the position of a lecturer on Indian activism. He has used the American Indian Movement's chapter in Denver to attack the leadership of the official American Indian Movement with his misinformation and propaganda campaigns.

Ward Churchill has been masquerading as an Indian for years behind his dark glasses and beaded headband. He waves around an honorary membership card that at one time was issued to anyone by the Keetoowah Tribe of Oklahoma. Former President Bill Clinton and many others received these cards, but these cards do not qualify the holder a member of any tribe. He has deceitfully and treacherously fooled innocent and naive Indian community members in Denver, Colo., as well as many other people worldwide. Churchill does not represent, nor does he speak on behalf of the American Indian Movement.

New York's Hamilton College Kirklands Project should be aware that in their search for truth and justice, the idea that they have hired a fraud to speak on Indian activism is in itself a betrayal of their goals.

Dennis J. Banks, Ojibwa, is chairman of the Board of the American Indian Movement. Nee Gon Nway Wee Dung, a.k.a., Clyde H. Bellecourt, Ojibwa, is the National executive director of the American Indian Movement. For more information, write to Ministry for Information, P.O. Box 13521, Minneapolis, MN 55414; call (612) 721-3914 ; e-mail aimggc@worldnet.att.net or visit www.aimovement.org.

Fraud ??
This article doesn't mention fraud of any sort. We will have to see how it plays out.
Have you ever seen a cow getting ready to be slaughtered
It is the most horrible horrible thing. You can see in the cows eyes the absolute fear it is going through. It also screams in pain.

Of course people who like to eat meat will argue with that, but a facts a fact.
She's not even ready to be elected

i'm sure he is ready to leave,
and would not worry about that. Also am glad that the provisions are in place for every kind of emergency, including directive 51, to preserve the integrity of our government. If the terrorists will try again, i'm sure they'll wait to test Obama rather than mess with Bush. You'd best worry instead whether Obama will be ready 'on day 1'.
Get ready for $8/gallon gas.....sm

I was talking with a friend who is a field consultant in the oil industry.  He said that it is very possible that OPEC has plans to terminate the US contract on or about March 14 in which the US gets the lion's share of OPEC oil.  He said what will happen is that instead of the US getting the largest supply of foreign oil, that oil will now be distributed to European countries who have gotten only the "leftovers" in the past and will now leave the US to get the "leftovers."  This, combined with decreased domestic drilling, will create higher oil and gas prices in the US. 

He has been out of work since long before Christmas and is now looking at the very real possibility of having to relocate his family to Saudi in order to make a living.  He and his wife are not wanting to take this route, but with the jobs drying up here, it may be his only alternative if he wishes to remain in the oil industry which is the only work he has ever done. 

There is a pipe yard located about 30 miles from here in which there are a lot of drilling towers just sitting on the yard, and that is only one of many such yards in the area. 


So get ready to either pay through the nose for gas or buy a horse and buggy!


Get ready for $8/gallon gas.....sm

I was talking with a friend who is a field consultant in the oil industry.  He said that it is very possible that OPEC has plans to terminate the US contract on or about March 14 in which the US gets the lion's share of OPEC oil.  He said what will happen is that instead of the US getting the largest supply of foreign oil, that oil will now be distributed to European countries who have gotten only the "leftovers" in the past and will now leave the US to get the "leftovers."  This, combined with decreased domestic drilling, will create higher oil and gas prices in the US. 

He has been out of work since long before Christmas and is now looking at the very real possibility of having to relocate his family to Saudi in order to make a living.  He and his wife are not wanting to take this route, but with the jobs drying up here, it may be his only alternative if he wishes to remain in the oil industry which is the only work he has ever done. 

There is a pipe yard located about 30 miles from here in which there are a lot of drilling towers just sitting on the yard, and that is only one of many such yards in the area. 


So get ready to either pay through the nose for gas or buy a horse and buggy!


Thanks - was just getting ready to put in an order
Will check those out too.
Let's get ready to RUMBLE
We're trying to have intelligent discourse. Not mob mentality ready to roll around in the mud. That is what is pathetic.
Whether I'm **ready to meet him** is something
and it's none of your business.
We'll be ready for it.

I think I posted an article on this further down on the page.


The anti-missle defense in Hawaii is ready with missles that can take out NK's missles without a problem. Anyhow, they don't believe NK has enough fire power to make it to Hawaii. Hawaii is 4500 miles away, while the missle is only supposed to be good for 4000 miles.


Now, Alaska is a different story, but they are also on alert. 


I trust our miliary. I think our country will be safe. S. Korea, though, is another story if he sets off a nuclear warhead like he threatened. That nut keeps telling his people that WE are threatening nuclear war with THEM and have built up the nuclear war defenses on the DMZ.


This is probably ONE of the tests Biden talked about. The other one is Iran.


 


Do you really want to get into campaign fraud?
You really don't want to, because the left has a corner on that market One example is the DNC registering dead people in Detroit. You know, we could tit for tat all day long about these things, but the conspiracy that elections are fixed is just that, a conspiracy.

Your energies would best be served by trying to help the the schizophrenic Democratic party finding a unified vision and an action plan other than dissing the Republicans. It's not our fault you're losing it's yours. The article you posted proves that energies are being wasted on the wrong things. But really, I don't care if you lose just so you do.

It's called fraud
I happened to get a call from the police in Arizona a few months ago. I have always lived in Ohio. It seems someone (several someones actually) had LISTS of people across the country of personal info, account numbers, passwords, email addresses, etc. pretty much everything you need, even machines to make the credit cards and license IDs. Arizona puts the fraudsters away just for having this info without your permission. Apparently they had a large fraud bust out there and they don't waste their time on proving what they did with it. YEA ARIZONA!
Obama voter here sm

Frankly I do not see much good coming from the policies of the last 8 years. An out of sight deficit, home foreclosures, terrible price hikes and job losses, I can;t see the pluses in these. Has Iraq made us safer? My gut tells me no. If there had, in fact been weapons of mass destruction than I would feel differently. I think what has matterd the most protecting the US have been more careful survellience domestically in the form of airline survelliences and the like.


I think Obama has the potential to make some positive changes, domestically and worldwide as well. While there is no guarantee of that I really don't feel that McCain will do to much except to continue more or less to promote the same policies as in the last eight years. We can do better than that. The post 9/11 politics of fear are eating the country alive economically.  While there is never a guarantee that another terrorist attack will not occur, as they do every so often world-wide,  I think it is foolish to sink your economy and play on the fears of its people on the remote chance that another one 'might occur someday.'


I like the message of hope and change that Obama speaks of, and if elected I hope that he is able to achieve some of his goals.


Joe the P is just another repub FRAUD

just one of many many many and the sheep who won't open their eyes to the mess the repubs have made will never learn


 


So voter suppression OK by you?
Being one of those that got misdirected and lost 3 hours of my time, I can tell you I didn't appreciate it one bit. Hope they bring charges against the creep.
Can we say voter suppression? (sm)

CNN just reported in Raleigh, NC-- people standing in line for 2 hours, and opps, all the sudden there are no ballots....there they are.....they are wet and will not go through the machine, so just put those to the side and we'll run them later. 


Flyers going out saying if you are a dem then voting day is Nov 5.


If you are in college your parents will get taxed if you vote at school.


There seems to be a HUGE list of this kind of stuff.  And who benefits from a lower voter turnout?  Hmmm. 


Voter Suppression is Right!
The Black Panthers were just blocking the doors of a polling site in Philadelphia.

Can't we all just get along? LOL


According to Rush, one voter who was
ex-military and had to push through the 2 of them earlier was told that the "black people were going to win the election."
No, all voter registration were not and still have not
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What is that BACKWARDS VOTER?
hahaha
Voter's remorse....sm
Does anyone know anybody who regrets who they voted for?


My husband was talking to his 25-year-old son the other day on the phone, and they touched upon the election. We know for a fact that he was an Obama supporter in the summer. He has also been in college for over six years, and acts like he's been brainwashed sometimes, by all his college professors.

Be that as it may.....DH asked DS who he voted for. DS hesitated for well over a minute....finally said he voted Libertarian. DH asked him who the Libertarian presidential candidate was, as DH said he didn't remember....DS said it was...Ralph Nader.....(who was Independent, not Libertarian...)

Now, we are fairly certain DS lied to his father about who he voted for. Why he lied, we are not certain about. Could be he just didn't want to admit to his father that he voted for Obama, because quite frankly, all the way through to November, he couldn't even coherently tell us why he supported Obama, just the familiar hope and change line, with no real substance as his usual reply.

Anyhoo.....then I got to thinking, that maybe he really wished he hadn't voted for Obama, but still woudn't tell his father that......still don't know for sure....



Interesting, though, to say the least.......
Every voter should read this.

First, let me say this testimony by a Cal State professor of economics pertaining to the proposed "cap-and-trade" program isn't light reading, but it isn't very long or overly technical, either. It's only a little over 3 pages, double-spaced with generous margins, and takes less than 10 minutes to read, especially since the whole first page is taken up with the economist's credentials and background which you can skip if you wish.


Second, we have to bring a certain mental framework to things like this, which I compare to digging the meat out of a walnut shell.  People like this don't typically use the kind of sensational language that we're accustomed to hearing on the news, and they tend to be rather polite and very low-key in the way they say things, especially when they're addressing a Congressional committee.


So nothing here is "bolded" or "underlined" in the way it's expressed, and ordinary reader like ourselves can easily miss the significance of what this economist is trying to tell the committee, which - if you want to cut right to the chase - is that "cap-and-trade" will destroy our economy.  Now, the economist uses somewhat less drastic terms but only SLIGHTLY less so, and if you simply think about the consequences of his predictions (which he expects the committee members to do), his meaning is quite clear. 


Cap-and-trade is admittedly INTENDED to make energy costs higher, on the theory that higher prices will induce reductions in energy use, hence pollution, etc., etc.  While this might sound like a good theory (odd, though, that those who support it are the very same people who laugh at "trickle-down" economics, which is exactly what this is, in reverse), it actually hides new taxes that consumers will ultimately pay for either directly or in the form of higher prices for literally everything because every good and every service includes an energy cost of one sort or another (and that, in turn, will also mean another layer of increased tax because you pay a higher sales tax when the price of anything goes up - a double whammy, in other words). At 8%, something that costs you $10 today = $10.80.  If the price goes up to $15, you pay $16.20 - which is not only a 50% increase in the price, but also a 50% tax increase on that item.  (It's critical to learn to think in percentages, and also to learn how prices are related to taxes!)


Cap-and-trade may just be the most horrendous idea ever to come down the pike.  This economist thinks so, calling it the "most anti-consumer" idea proposed to any Congress in our history.  This has nothing whatsoever to do with any political party.  It's simply another example of the absolute madness that seems to grip Washington these days - and members of both parties are afflicted with this insanity.


So, as always, here's the link for those who wish to paste it into their browsers, and it's also in the clickable link below.  This is a PDF file and I can assure you that there's no virus risk.


http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/robert-michaels-testimony-april-23-2009.pdf


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Ready for a Redistricting Boom? sm
June 29, 2006
Ready for a Redistricting Boom?
Look for several states to rejigger congressional districts in the wake of the Supreme Court's 7-2 ruling upholding the Texas legislature's 2003 decision to draw a new map, advises Kiplinger Forecasts. The Court made it clear that states can rewrite boundaries whenever they want, not just after the Census every 10 years. That means the congressional landscape in Washington can change every time one party gains control over a state's government. Although the Supreme Court's decision is a big victory for Republicans, and specifically for former Senate Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, who engineered the redistricting, redistricting by other states may have the GOP ruing the day.

New maps may well put more Democrats in the House of Representatives, possibly enough to tip the balance of power from Republicans to Democrats. We expect Illinois, New Mexico, New Jersey and New York to wind up with Democrats in control of both the governor's mansion and the state legislature after the November elections. So redistricting in those states might shift enough seats to the Democratic column to give that party a majority.

Washington Wire: The Supreme Court’s decision is the culmination of one of the hardest fought redistricting battles in history.

The best analysis of the court decision comes from Rick Hasen and Nathaniel Persily.

Meanwhile, a Houston Chronicle editorial calls it a pyrrhic victory for Texas. If Wednesday's court decision was a victory for Texas, another such victory, and we are undone.

are we ready for a black president?
-Chris Rock
But a VP should also be ready to be commander-in-chief should something...sm
happen to the President so what does this say about what McCain has been saying about his opponent's lack of experience? His VP pick is the same age?!?!

I think his pick will hurt him more than help him and I have absolutely nothing against her at all...
Palin not ready for the press

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/259517

Todd Harris, a GOP strategist, and McCain aide Nicole Wallace both said Sarah Palin won’t be available to the press. They said might make a mistake and American people don’t care about Palin talking to the press.
Todd Harris, GOP Strategist who is also close to the McCain campaign, told Chris Matthews, MSNBC that Palin won’t be available to the press for about two weeks. He said she might make a mistake in the show.

If she goes out and makes a mistake, that is something that voters will] care about, and that's something that will haunt McCain for awhile, so I think this is a smart move.

And the GOP is proud in making such a decision, despite telling everyone she has more experience than Obama and Biden.

In the second video, McCain aide Nicole Wallace told Time’s Jay Carney and Joe Scarborough, MSNBC that the press will not be given a chance to take shots at Palin. She said American people don’t care whether Sarah Palin can answer specific questions about foreign and domestic policy. She said the public will know about her from Palin’s scripted speeches and appearances on the campaign trail and in political ads.

Jay Carney responded with the following statement:

Wallace's bash-the-media exercise has its merits as a campaign tactic. It certainly rallies the base. But the base won't lift McCain to 50% in November. More importantly, in her smug dismissal of the media's role in asking questions of the candidates, Wallace was really showing contempt not for reporters, but for voters.

If she is not ready now, how can we expect that she will be ready in the next few months? Is there a two-month crash course for Presidency?
Joe Biden also said that Obama was not ready...
to be President. Is HE sticking by that? Sorry to you to...lol
I'm about ready to pull what little money I have -
out of the bank and bury it in the backyard!  What about you?
I dont ready your posts cause

they are usually wrong.  Sorry.


 


Get Ready to Pay off your credit cards
The government is looking into buying some banks instead of subprime mortgages.  They are going to need some capital.  All ready to pay up?
I'll go with you; pitchfork at the ready!
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The pubs were armed and ready, too
Why don't you talk out of both sides of your mouth?
No voter redo for Florida
CBS/AP) Facing strong opposition, Florida Democrats on Monday abandoned plans to hold a do-over presidential primary with a mail-in vote and threw the delegate dispute into the lap of the national party.

While the decision by Florida Democrats left the state's 210 delegates in limbo, Democrats in Michigan moved closer to holding another contest on June 3. Legislative leaders reviewed a measure Monday that would set up a privately funded, state-administered do-over primary, The Associated Press learned.

In Florida, a frustrated Democratic Party chairwoman Karen L. Thurman sent a letter announcing the decision.

"A party-run primary or caucus has been ruled out, and it's simply not possible for the state to hold another election, even if the party were to pay for it," Thurman said. "... This doesn't mean that Democrats are giving up on Florida voters. It means that a solution will have to come from the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee, which is scheduled to meet again in April."

Members of Florida's congressional delegation unanimously opposed the plan, and Barack Obama expressed concern about the security of a mail-in vote organized so quickly. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign expressed disappointment with Florida's decision.

"Today's announcement brings us no closer to counting the votes of the nearly 1.7 million people who voted in January," Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said. "We hope the Obama campaign shares our belief that Florida's voters must be counted and cannot be disenfranchised."