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I hate to tell ya, but it's only the beginning.

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2008-11-10
In Reply to: booms and busts - historian

Nobody can fix anything. All they're doing is making my grandkids and great-grandkids pay for something that should have never been done in the first place (bailout).


Now, Bennie (Beneke sp) doesn't want to LOAN the big 3 any money? What? Is he nuts????? He will kill this country with this attitude. His excuse is that it's a bailout for financial institutions. Yeah, right. They take expensive "conferences" and raise the rates for consumers. We pay through the nose by the government plus the financial institutions new updated charges they are putting in place. So, we're screwed by both..


Stop the world. I want to get off!!!! This will be a depression worse than any in history. Mark my words.




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An end and a beginning......
best be right with God.
Could this be the beginning of the end for him?
I certainly hope so. We will have to watch how he handles this defeat. He is like a petulant child when he does get his way and hope he doesn't get too carried away with any sort of retaliation.

The cool thing about this election, to me anyway, is that it seems it was the younger citizens and college students who turned the vote which really goes to show how much influence they can have on an election. I would love to see such passion amongst our own to show up at the polls. There is a grassroot effort going on now try to get our students rallied together to participate more in our political process. Let's hope it pays off! This is a great example of what they can do.
Did you ever THINK this was the beginning of
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This is the beginning

And a bit worrisome.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


 


The beginning of the end of the war! nm
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I am beginning to think....
that you are not real and your only purpose is to stir up _____ Let's take a depressed person off their antidepressant. then they can sink into a deeper depression, one where they become unable to even function, or possibly one where they commit suicide and then, gee, we won't have to worry about insuring them or the cost of their care, hey?? Same thing if we skip all the silly x-rays, MRIs and other tests. We will just ignore them and then their illnesses will progress until they die and, gee, no more insurance or cost worries.

There is no forced testing. if you don't want the test or feel you need the test, don't go. Nobody drags you kicking and screaming for tests you don't want. When you have MD after your name, then you get to decide who gets what meds and what tests, not when you are an MT hanging out on this forum and telling everyone else what to think and do.
June 6: Beginning of the end?

Isn't the first week in June the same time that Bush plans to play with his bunker busting nukes in Nevada?  I wonder if the bird flu will mysteriously begin to mutate in America during the same time frame (making the USA the first country in the world where the mutation coincidentally occurs). 


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-omen24apr24,1,3603748,print.story?coll=la-headlines-entnews


Jumping on Beelzebub's bandwagon


`Omen' film promoters, Ann Coulter and Radio Free Satan all look forward to June 6.


By Susan Carpenter
Times Staff Writer

April 24, 2006

Anyone living and driving in L.A. the past few weeks has seen them. Looming over the city, black and ominous, the billboards and posters announce You Have Been Warned and The Signs Are All Around You. Each is anchored with the date 6/6/06.

Drop the 0, and you get 666. That's the number of the beast, according to the New Testament's Book of Revelation, just one of many interpretations though all of them are dark and frightening. For some Armageddon believers, it represents the date upon which the Antichrist will spread universal evil over the Earth.

For marketers, 666 has also become an ideal date — to launch movies, records, books and other products or events, particularly those with religious undertones. In the case of 20th Century Fox, which is responsible for the omnipresent apocalyptic ad campaign, it's a once-in-a-century opportunity to unleash the remake of The Omen, about a couple and their devil incarnate spawn. For Crown Forum publishers, it's a perfect time to fan the flames of ideological controversy with the release of provocative author Ann Coulter's new book, Godless. For certain musical groups, it is the date to release records and, in the case of heavy-metal legends Slayer, their Unholy Alliance Tour — Preaching to the Perverted.

People have different reactions when they hear 666, said Jeffrey Godsick, executive vice president of marketing for 20th Century Fox. It's partly superstition, partly fear, partly reality, maybe it's a little cultural. These numbers seem to have a significant impact.

A month ago, Fox first launched The Omen campaign with airplanes towing You Have Been Warned banners above key spring break cities. They definitely didn't go unnoticed — 911 operators and the FBI fielded a flurry of calls from terrified, bikini-clad beachgoers. In Panama City, Fla., a fighter jet was even dispatched to escort one of the planes down.

Coulter's book probably won't have the military on alert, though it is likely to get political left-leaners up in arms. That won't have as much to do with the release date as what she's had to say about it. In an interview with Neil Cavuto of Fox News two weeks ago, the bestselling author of How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must) and Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right said the release date of Godless was her little tribute to liberals.

According to Crown Senior Vice President and Publisher Steve Ross, the release date was selected before the book was even named and was, predominantly, a marketing decision. June 6 falls on a Tuesday this year and Crown, which releases all its titles on Tuesdays, wanted to ensure that Coulter's most explosive book yet came out early enough in the summer to be one of the summer books that people would be reading.

Now that June 6 has been construed as 666, Crown is, of course, happy to ride on Satan's, er, The Omen's coattails. 20th Century Fox, Ross said, is doing our ad campaign for us.

Tuesdays are also the days albums are released. And while there are plenty of satanically unaffiliated artists' albums whose June 6 release date are entirely coincidental — for example, electronic artist Paul Oakenfold's A Lively Mind and David Lee Roth's Strummin' With the Devil — others, such as the death metal group Deicide, are taking full advantage. On June 6, the Florida quartet, renowned as much for a statement it issued in support of animal sacrifice as its music, will release The Stench of Redemption.

Deicide isn't the only satanic group to celebrate the date. The online radio station Radio Free Satan, based in Chicago, is heading to Los Angeles, where it plans to celebrate its sixth year and also ring in the sin-tennial with Satan's Rockin' 666 Eve at Zen Sushi in Silver Lake.

The Anton LaVey-founded Church of Satan is hosting a satanic high mass at the Steve Allen Theater, during which Church of Satan High Priest Peter H. Gilmore will bestow his blessing upon those assembled to, as Gilmore puts it, champion reason, pluralism, skepticism and abundant joy in life.

June 6, 2006, is nothing to be feared, said Gilmore.

It is just a day, like any other, Gilmore said.

We think it's entertaining that it concerns people, but it is no more rational or plausible than avoiding stepping on cracks.




 


Sam, was he your choice from the very beginning
or did you prefer one of the other candidates during the primary? I am just curious, no sinister motive behind this question.
He should have stood up from the very beginning...sm
and not allowed the radical right to dictate to him who he should have for a vice president. He made a bad decision based on a male reflex that said picking a woman, any woman, would assure him the women's vote. Bad decision. Alas, men still think women have no brains.
....and the beginning of a disaster.
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....and the beginning of a disaster. - nm
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It has been about race from the beginning.........sm
One only has to read either of Obama's books to know that. His books say essentially what your brother is saying in (no offense at all to your brother or to you) more eloquent terms (instead of saying "a brother in the White House").

I am very much against the use of the Trail Maids in the parade, not because of the color of their skin, but because of what they represent....a time in our country's history that was wrong and shameful in terms of what one race did to another. I personally don't think it is a period of time to be celebrated.

What truly amazes me is that so many have tried to blame the racism on the white people who were against Obama instead of recognizing the "reverse racism" that is at the core of this campaign. I didn't vote for him, but I didn't vote for him because I disagreed with his political platform. Race was never an issue for me. I'd have voted for a black man, Oriental man, Hispanic man, white man or purple man if I believed that he was the best choice for leading this nation and if his platform was one I agreed with.

Please don't ever be ashamed of who you are or the color of your skin. You are an amazing work of God and should always remember that you are. :o)
Just the beginning of socialism
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I am beginning to wonder if Obama sm
reads anything he signs! I bet he signs it. Wonder what the Obama supporters are gonna think then?
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Pure trash from beginning to end.
Are you not aware how old this smear campaign is and how ineffective it has been thus far? Though it seems like a couple of lifetimes ago, I do recall it being around at least as far back as February. It was kept alive all the way up until Obama successfully clenched the nomination of his party despite the Hannity cult's diligence to make it stick. It finally faded out after their original mission had failed miserably and he emerged from the primaries on top. You can post this stupidity until the end of time but it isn't going to accomplish anything except to make you look like the ignorant, out of touch bigot that you are, marginalize the fringe that subscribes to these beliefs and make your own party look like fools.

I am a WASP American who has many more Moslem friends than Christians for reasons that would be a waste of time to explain to someone with such a narrow, tiny brain. My relationship to that community spans more than 5 decades and my life has been enriched tenfold because of it. I have traveled there, lived amongst them, married into a Moslem family, born Christian children from that union and buried a few along the way. I speak 2 of their languages, have read the Quran, their literature and appreciated their extensive historical contributions to the arts, music and the sciences.

I have lost count of how many of them I have known. I can tell you they are an intelligent, educated and spiritual people. They have family values every bit as strong as Americans and an even stronger sense of community. They take pride in humility and honor. In all those many years, never ONCE have I known a terrorist among them. I know they are out there and I know that unfortunately the politicized version of Islam is every bit as ugly as the politicized version of Chritianity.

It makes no difference whether Obama is a Christian with Moslem ties or a Moslem who has converted (which he is not). As a matter of fact, I have also known many Moslems who have converted, but Obama is not one of them. He is a remarkable human being and this country is blessed to have him as a choice for leadership in this election. What I can tell you is that the ugly, bigoted sentiments expressed here are universally repulsive to all people of faith. Today, you have made me feel ashamed to call myself a Christian.
I'm beginning to believe it DOES take a rocket scientist

to figure things out.  If you want to shop at Wal-Mart........fine.  I don't.  I prefer to support those who support America...local businesses who don't sell cheap, low quality imports.  If you think Wal-Mart's prices are lower...fine...I don't.  Try comparing them.  I have.  Wal-Mart was great when Sam was alive, and living in this part of the country you probably won't be surprised that I knew him and his wife personally.  I expect Sam would be turning in his grave if he could see what has become of what he built.


As for unions, think what you want.  "We the people" do not pay for union benefits, card carrying union members pay for them through their dues.  AND my husband will be the first to tell you that Jimmy Hoffa hung with corrupt people but he also benefited American workers.   


So if you don't support unions or pay raises............quit b*tching about how little MTs are paid.


...the beginning of a disaster - how true
See I can keep repeating over and over. What does bitter have to do with anything. This will end up being a disastrous 4 years coming up. Look at his ideals, his line up crew of who he is picking. The Clinton administration was a disaster. He's picking all the same people again, hence another disaster.
Not if it's true (for some people), and I'm beginning to believe it is. nm
nm
This is from the beginning an idiotic comparison
how to behave toward a husband who is going to kill his wife.

Who, for heaven's sake, comes up with such weird comparisons, when we are talking about prisoners in Gitmo?

Can you people not stay on one issue without losing the focus?

I guess it depends on your view of the beginning of
is life. I'm not advocating third or even second trimester abortions but believe me it's far better for a woman to abort a child than have one that won't care for it. Take Casey Anthony, for example...
Good post! I was very pro-Obama in the beginning (sm)
of the race.  But he does have me feeling more and more scared of what will happen if he is elected.  Thank you so much for being so clear.
I am beginning to worry about Obama's judgment
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Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
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you are the one with hate
It is you and the other republicans who post here that are filled with hatred.  My gosh, almost every one of your posts has the word hate in it. 
Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. nm

Hate. nm

Hate? I don't hate anyone....
least of all some anonymous poster on a board. I would not waste the energy, and hating anyone is a waste of energy. I don't hate liberals. Yes, it is dissent...it is dissenting opinion. You know, like the Supreme Court judges do when they don't agree? They give dissenting opinions. There is much more opinion on these boards than fact. As far as hate....your leaders in Congress have a good healthy hatred and want of revenge...or they would not put terrorism on the back burner to investigating Bush. That is hatred of the man and desire for revenge that is quite blatantly obvious, and certainly is not in the best interests of the country. I believe that Ms. Pelosi needs to remember that people in glass houses should not throw stones. I don't expect an answer because you already told me you were not going to read this...
There just seems to be a lot of hate for her
I will vote dem no matter what
Why do you hate

Reading these posts I am trying to understand why Gov. Palin is hated so much.  I'd like to know facts (not rumors or lies).  Can you provide me with answers as to why.  I just don't understand it.


The conversative republicans on this board are not coming out with hate towards Obama/Biden, and I really don't see much hate towards McCain, but the actual hate is seeping out and infiltrating all of your thoughts with Gov. Palin and I cannot understand why.  I've seen her interviewed.  She doesn't seem too bad.  She's knowledgeable about the issues and answers questions with confidence.  I've also seen Obama, Biden and McCain interviewed too and I just don't understand what it is towards Gov. Palin but not the others. 


Please provide facts too.  Everything I am reading on this board are rumors and lies, so if you could just tell me.  Even if you say you don't like her because she's pretty, or she decided to have a baby instead of aborting him, etc I don't mind answers like that because they will be truthful, but please don't tell me you hate her because of something manufacted, or for something she is not personally involved in.


Just trying to understand.


why is it hate
When we want her to speak out and show who she is? I don't hate her. I do think there were several more qualified women that could have been picked for the Rep VP slot. I think it is a slap in the face to the more educated, capable women that they picked a pretty little thing from Alaska that barely graduated college with a degree in Journalism.

Ms. Rice is 100 times more qualified to be VP, why not pick her?
I don't hate anyone!
All I am saying is that I have a better understanding of why you have such strong feelings about politics, based on what you have told us about yourself. My life is polar opposite of yours, which affects my feelings about politics.

I do not hate small town folks, Christians, the military, or anyone else. It just that we come from different worlds, and I understand now why we see things so differently.
Right, you don't hate nobody, you hate
agree with you.
What does this say.......hot hate?
Although nowhere does the Qur’an say that Allah loves those who don’t believe Muhammad, there are over 400 verses that describe the torment that he has prepared for people of other religions (or no religion):

And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers (3:85)

The relative worth of non-Muslims is that they are but fuel for the fire of Hell:

(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire (3:10)

As they are fueling the fire, unbelievers will be tormented by Allah’s angels on his command:

“O ye who believe! Ward off from yourselves and your families a Fire whereof the fuel is men and stones, over which are set angels strong, severe, who resist not Allah in that which He commandeth them, but do that which they are commanded.” (66:6)


Hate to say it

I think there are a few bone fide nut jobs on this post that got a whole lot of people sucked into their delusions.  Fooled me twice. Later!


That's a lot of hate! nm
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I don't hate you......... sm
I just don't like your lifestyle and that gay people are insisting upon calling a union between people of the same sex a marriage. In my opinion, and apparently in the opinion of a vast number of Americans, it devalues the institution of marriage between men and women. If you want to live together, fine. Just don't tell me that I must consider your situation a marriage and don't change our countries laws to recognize it as a marriage.
Hate to say it, but I don't think it's

going to happen (talking about issues). There are too many new ones on here now and all they want to do is name calling, pick fights, and won't try to find the truth and, sadly, it's also the way of the country nowadays.  I have been appalled at the reaction lately and even ones who have been on here a long time and always posted decently are turning into the negative posters, too.


Unless the posters start following the rules of this board, I doubt it will ever change.


you are right - they hate each other! nm
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Hate to tell ya, but...(sm)
Penn and Maine are blue states according to the 2008 election.  Those 3 senators are doing what they were elected to do -- that being representing their people.
I hate it when that happens...lol (nm)


I hate to say this
but the more pub bashing there is, the less I want to even consider what dems have to say.

Dems keep saying they expect us to work with them (pretty much agree with what they want to do, nevermind how we feel about it) yet then they want to constantly trash talk us and make fun of us. I'm not saying that pubs don't do the same to dems, but if the majority wants the minority to participate, maybe they should chill out on the "party of NO and hip hop party" lingo.

Just sayin :)
Well, I hate to tell you this

but these hicks that you talk about using food stamps to buy food are the same people who will benefit from Obama's presidency.  It won't be hard working individuals like ourselves.  This type of irresponsible behavior will be rewarded by government assistant programs at the expense of the working Americans who pay for them and who is pushing for more government programs.....why I do believe it is Barrack Obama....is it not?


As for Sarah Palin, she has done very well running Alaska and has worked her way up from the bottom to the top in her state.  She wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth.  If Sarah Palin was as ugly as Hillary Clinton is and was pro-choice, you all would be drooling over her.  But because she is an attractive woman who is conservative, you ladies would rather say she has no brains because she is pretty. 


How smart are we?  Our country elects a man who has no experience whatsoever and when it comes to writing bills, he hands the everything over to Pelosi.


Please continue to tell me how stupid Palin is when Obama runs our country into the ground because I'm sure that will make sense to everything ignorant Obama is doing right now. 


I don't hate anyone. There is a sm
difference between "tolerance" and standing up for the truth. This belongs on the faith board but I guess I will post anyway. There is a difference between "religion" and "salvation" and all Obama has (by the fruit he bears) is religion! There is one way to heaven and that is through and by the blood of Jesus Christ.

I don't know where the denying health care benefits and denying SS to anyone comments came from. Obama is a Muslim. He has even slipped up in an interview and admitted it.

Because I would like to see you in heaven, the truth is there is only one way and that is through Jesus Christ.
I hate to tell you this

but taking control away from the taliban and giving it back to the country the taliban is trying to take over is about our freedom.  The more control the taliban gets, the more power they get and the more ability they have to attack us on our own soil.


As for why we are still there....I do believe it was Obama who extended the timeline for the troops in Iraq while sending troops into Afghan.  So it appears that Obama's pulling out of the troops and running back home plan didn't work out so well when he actually got into the White House and saw what was really going on.


As for the "torture" accusations, I hate to break it to ya but terrorists and pirates do not fall under protection of the Geneva Convention.  We broke no law as they are terrorists and I would rather "torture" a terrorist to try and save American lives.  We will never know the full story on this until all the information is released.


As for Pelosi, she is so high and mighty.  If you are going to stand there and point the blame on everyone else but yourself when others claimed that you knew and did nothing.....well.....of course Pelosi is now under fire and she should be.  If she truly knew about it....she is just as guilty for allowing it and not saying a word and then lying about it to make her look all pure and innocent.


However, I still say this whole thing shouldn't have happened.  Those original memos should not have been released to begin with and that was something the liberal loons wanted so they could start their witch hunts on the Bush administration.  If Obama really wanted to move forward he would have just said what is in the past is in the past.  We can't change what happened but we move forward and will not do so again.  Instead we are belittling our CIA and our troops and putting ourselves in danger while giving terrorists more power to recruit more psychotic people to their cause. 


Wow....such hate.
Patty, I would seriously suggest that you take a good look in the mirror.  I think perhaps it would be a good lesson for you to actually sit down after a day or so and write down the sins that you yourself have committed.  You can't separate the sin from the person and yet you said yourself that we are all sinners.  Don't we as Christians call ourselves sinners.  Don't we pray and admit to God that we are sinners and ask for his forgiveness?  That is the title that we go by.  Granted, we are supposed to strive to be better but we still sin every day.  If what you say is true that you cannot separate the sin from a person when they go by that title and this is according to God........what makes you think God listens to you when you admit you are a sinner and ask for forgiveness.  Doesn't make sense does it.  Anyone with a brain would see that!
Um, hate to tell ya, but YOU don't own it,
Somebody has one MAJOR bee up their butt.