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True, but GM is stating it will take

Posted By: 2 years to get there. nm on 2008-11-10
In Reply to: just my opinion - historian

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Thank you for stating this.
there is a good chance Clinton is out or (which of course will happen) government will change the constitution.
Thanks for stating this. (NM)
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Stating that sin
is sin is not passing judgement. If I was judging, I would be telling people they were going to burn in hale. Anyone can repent of their sins but pointing out a sin is not a judgement. It's reiterating what God tells us.
Thank you for stating this.
This is why I am ticked off with Obama and government. He is just taking over EVERYTHING!
I was stating my opinion. sm

I was simply stating that my father has 3 purple hearts and I was a military dependent, living 6 years of my childhood in cold war Germany.  I am tired of the right referring to anyone who does not support the Iraq civil war as "unpatriotic".  I am a soldier's daughter, and I want our troops home, because I do support the troops.


 


Yes 911 was a terrible terrorist thing.  What does that have to do with Iraq?  Nothing.  Never has, never will. 


No problem....just stating
proven facts.  Hoover raised taxes during a recession and it lead to the great depression.  FDR spend money on goverment programs and it actually prolonged the duration of the depression.  History, my friends.....history.
Just stating facts
and the fact is that McPalin's campaign money was spent on those hateful calls.  Dirty, dirty politics.  I am just the messenger so don't take it out on me.
Just stating facts
Obama has been caught in lies and distorting the truth. One man cannot change this country. One man did not get this country into this mess. You can't blame the President for every dang thing happening.

Do you know what Obama called Pennsylvanians? "Those white people," "bitter," "cling to their guns and religion," "they'll call me a black man."

Sound like a great, caring candidate to you?

No, was just stating that we are still paying them...
its not like they are not getting an income while they are campaigning.

The point was that he could share his own wealth if he wanted to without being forced to by the government...lead by example, before he forces the rest of us to join in whether we want to or not.


As my post above, stating
We did not rush in. Gave Iraq plenty of time so they could move their weapons.
Stating the obvious
resemble a personal attack. You have clearly defined yourself here. All I did was to tell it like it is.
I never heard her stating that about herself.
nm
If you are stating that he is lying, then
Yes, I did read the whole post. You wrote I'm more concerned about **the lying**, not **I would be concerned if I found out he was lying** or something along those lines.  **The lying** -- again, WHAT lying? 
I was merely stating there are TWO sides....
to every story. I have not taken sides, as apparently you have. That is all I am saying. The Palestinians are not without fault either, and their present governing body are on the terror watch list. That should mean something....?
If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Good for you for stating your views on the war then...
I find it ultra annoying when people start calling others unpatriotic when they don't agree with the war or something else the government is doing.  Isn't being passionate about what you feel is best for the country the epitome of patriotism!?  I think so.
I agree. Sam is stating the facts as well (sm)

as opinions.  Take them or leave them.  Stop bashing others for your benefit.  Sam is above that and doesn't play the bashing game.  Just a strong poster with opinions that don't agree with yours.  You guys are like a pack of wolves.  You are really full of yourselves, aren't you?  Shame on you. 


This is a forum for posting opinions, observations, and finds.  Leave it at that and stop the catfighting.


All I'm stating is that this election may determine
At no time did I say other countries are directly involved in our system of picking a President. (That system already sucks enough as it is. Look at the Florida fiasco a couple elections ago).

What I'm saying is, if we don't get some leaders in office that have less ego, and more people skills, who can speak AS WELL AS LISTEN, then we're doomed to continue to have the same problems, and very likely worse.

If our next leader is more into bombing than talking, then we better dust off our nuclear arsenal, 'cause we could end up having to use it. Personally, though, I'd rather see the next Prez. talking and using diplomacy, rather than bombing the s**t out of the rest of the world. What goes around does have a tendency to come around.


I haven't condemned anyone...just stating
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nope, just stating facts
and not providing backup - seems to be a common thing on this board. But, since I posted it, it must be true, and if you don't take me at my word, you are blinded by the light of your favorite (insert name here) politician.
I don't think there was any insinuation there. Just stating the facts. sm
Obama better wear a bullet proof vest all the time. I am voting for McCain, not because I like him but as a vote AGAINST Obama. I don't want a president that is not an American citizen much less one who believes in a different God than I do.


Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
Horrible signs were stating
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Insinuating?? We're stating it as a fact!!!
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That is the most clear-cut stating of the facts that I have ever heard. sm
Unfortunately, this could go out on national TV and the Dems and others bowing at the "Altar of Obama" will just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans.

I for one am going to send it to as many people as I can. It may not make a difference, but it sure can't hurt.
Palin stating Africa was a country

Liberal Media Bias: MSNBC Falls for Palin Africa/NAFTA Hoax -- But So Does Fox News




Even after losing the election, VP candidate Sarah Palin has continued to be in the news for various reasons. Among them was the claim that Palin is so stupid that she thought Africa was a continent, not a country. She was also said to not be able to name the three NAFTA countries. The source: “Unnamed former McCain advisers.”


Makes sense, right? After all, Sarah Palin is your typical simple-minded, non-Ivy-League-educated, baby-making, hick conservative Republican, right? She was John McCain’s middle finger to the American people, right libs?


Well, turns out the whole story is false, a hoax, a scam.


Only this time, one of the guilty parties is Fox News.


Nothing silly about stating obvious facts.
Voters recognized that and acted accordingly. It takes some longer than others to catch on.
What? She has a valid question and stating facts.
nm
What part of just stating fact escapes you?
didn't amount to a hill of beans when it came time for your representatives to roll their sleeves up and hammer out a compromise. My statements are supportive of bipartisan initiatives (as in both parties coming to a middle ground) that move us forward from here. Whether or not I agree with the plan, which side of the fence I live on or what percentage of support for the plan is reflected in the latest polls is immaterial at this point. I keep my eyes on the prize. Those folks needed to do THEIR JOBS, get past their differences, try to come up with solutions and do what is right for the economy...or at least give it their BEST shot. Go stir somebody else's pot.
Forget the bowing, how about Obama stating
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5104350/Republicans-slam-Barack-Obama-over-American-arrogance-speech.html

WHO THE HECK DOES HE THINK HE IS? PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD?

Obama states America is changing. America showed arrogance, been dismissive and even derisive and in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious and blah, blah, blah. He just LOVES making speeches.
Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
nm
The b/c issue - Stating factcheck as a reliable source
Since they are all one in the same.  Factcheck is not an independent source.
McCain inside - stating his aspirations: I have always aspired to be a dictator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p94Nvs9sZSA&feature=related


 


You Bushies are struggling to find a new daddy.  Senator Hague (sp?) was a great senator and he was a logical man who appeared to be forthright - which is how I like my politicians.


It must be terrible for you to have had the man you placed in charge to have displaced blatant dereliction of duty in his handling of terrorism, the economy, international relations.  I know you credit him for "keep us safe for 8 years" but Osama bin laden speech clearly stated his aim was not to fly jets into buildings or drop dirty bombs off at bus stops - but bankrupt America by way of war.  This is retaliation against America for their involvement in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. 


http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html


By the way, do you find it rather odd that of all the countries in the world collapsing from their involvement in the U.S. stock market and corporations, Israel is not and is, in fact, economically thriving quite well.  This is after veing at war nonstop for the past 15 years.  Do you find that unusual in the least?  Are you even curious about this since Paulson, Bernanke, Barney Frank along with the owners of the corporations that just been bailed out (why did they bail out freddie and fannie and not Indymac???  Why Bear Stearns and AIG but not Lehman Brothers????).


I have a feeling when everything is said and done, the world will realize we have been fleeced by an elite group of very determined men, men who have thought about this for years.  Bush is a Harvard bus school grad.  He appears stupid and everyone laughs and thinks it is endearing.  But i think he is acting - he thought Iraqi's would greet us with flowers and chocalate?  His father and Cheney have both been documented as saying a civil war would break out if Saddam was removed from power and that it would destabilize the middle east.


Bush and the republican party as they stand now are corrupt and I believe that many of the democrats are as well.  Special interests and corrupt America as bought them.  Now, you may disagree and defend every move made in the last eight years as smart but that is just your ego talking.


Repubs would be wise to listen to both sides a little more closely and raise your expectations for your next candidate. 


 


Bush is accountable for the mess the country is in.  He is a liar, a cheater and a thief - And you can bet he makes a bee line for So. America with his loot when his term is finally up.  Bush, it is stated, was actually a black sheep in his family (Jeb was supposed to be the Bush son who reached the presidency, not George who was not his father's favorite child). 


 


That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Everything you said is true and can be

easily seen by just reading the board.


At least it can be seen by most of us.


But it IS true.
I saw a feature on it. They had videotapes of the recruiters coaching the kids on how to pass a urine drug screen.  It is absolutely true. 
I don't think that is true at all. sm
I think a lot of people are pretty sick of Cindy and her histrionics.  I don't see it as political at all.  A lot of people aren't going to sit by this time for another Vietnam where the antiwar crowd totally influenced the way the war was run.
Not true. sm
They are pro troops and pro Israel.  You are definitely not reading that board right. Is it the guns that offend you?  Or the war with Islamic radicals who all want us dead?  I mean, what EXACTLY offends you the most? 
LOL!!! Oh how true! nm

Not true
Re-upped?  He joined the military because all his friends did.  Read Cindy's description of how he got hoodwinked into going.  Re-upped?  No.
LOL. I like that...so true...nm
When in doubt, blame Clinton.
the true me
Happy and peaceful but when I deal with rabid conservatives attacking me..I attack back..Happy and peaceful in my life and in my beliefs, you bet, totally..I can sleep well at night cause I know my ideology/politics help people, I help people..I am an extremely happy peaceful accepting person..However, when I get attacked, I can give as good as I get..I do have to say, the net does not show the true person, so I dont see the true you and you dont see the true me..I have met people who I have only known in the net and when we met, we became friends..So I would take with a grain of salt the impression you get of people over the net..we are much more..
So true sm
That clip would be hilarious if it were not so true.  It is frightening how true it is.
It's true. SM
I remember Nan talking about it.  It was way way back when some of us used to put our e-mails on line here. 
This is SO true.nm
nm
True that is.
Lesson good.
Even if that was true (and I don't believe it is), so what?

The one thing the radical right wing HATES is the fact that we have freedom of religion in this country.  We are all free (so far, anyway) to believe in whatever religion we choose.  It might be Christianity, or it might be something else.  Why does it even concern YOU how many Democrats are Christian?  It's simply none of your business, yet you want to jump to conclusions that may or may not be true and judge an entire group of people based upon religious beliefs, some of which might be different from yours.


This is my main problem with the radical Christian right.  They don't seem to believe that other religions are just as good as theirs.  They believe theirs is the best, and anyone who doesn't share their specific religious beliefs are judged to be inferior people.  You want to force your narrow views on everyone, and surely you must know that just isn't going to happen in America.


However, if Americans don't wake up soon and if you manage to wreck America and turn it into a theocracy, I can and WILL move to Canada in a heartbeat to escape your religious bigotry.  By the way, wasn't that the reason this country was formed to begin with -- to end religious persecution?


I can only wonder why YOU haven't been nominated for Supreme Court justice, since you seem to have the only qualification required by Bush.


Oh, that's right.  You're obviously not one of his close personal *friends* who worships him like a god and licks his boots.


Why should she? It's true!

NOT TRUE!

MT was responding to a CHALLENGE to people to put their *money where their mouth is* and if they think this war is so *noble,* then why don't they either enlist or sign up for civilian services over there.


MT said she WILL.  NO PROBLEM. SHE WILL.


No spin.  They are her words.  She didn't say *might* or *would* or *maybe.*  She said she WILL.


You're the one who's doing the spinning.


I know it's not true.

Completely false and irresponsible.