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I have nothing to hide either - but don't want them listening to me - nm

Posted By: Amanda on 2008-10-18
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People with nothing to hide, hide nothing!
One of my favorite quotes!
Why is it sad? What do you have to hide? nm

I don't have anything to hide, do you?
I could care less if the government opens my mail (which they have been doing for years and long before 9/11 BTW), my emails or listens to my phone conversations.  I have nothing to hide.  You also are not allowed to send contraband in the mail.  It's a federal offense and always has been.  If one were speaking to terrorists and live in this country one should be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and for being a traitor to this country.
I have nothing to hide. If this is

actually going on, they would quickly realize that I'm no threat.  The worst they could get me for is gossiping.


No need to run and hide from
What I heard Obama reiterate his consistent policy to Joe the unlicensed. In the absence of a link, not too sure I heard that "below Joe" phrase from Obama, but I am assuming you are referring to income levels. Apparently, you did not hear me say that progressive tax structure has been in place for as long as I can remember and that giving tax cuts and tax credits, allowing tax cuts to expire, adjusting tax rate, adding and subtracting deductions, opening and closing loopholes revising categories of tax burden to be benefit or detriement of any given class (i.e, shrubs's tax cuts to the rich that redistributed tax burden "downward" onto the middle class) is nothing new under the sun and is actually very, very American.

You obviously do not understand (or at least, have a selective understanding of) socialism. Palin's "collective ownership of resources" skips that bump in the road all together and smack of communism...straight up, as does government ownership of banks and lending institutions along with government buy-outs of privately owned properties such as homes, as proposed by McCain. If Obama is a socialist, so is McCain, so is Palin and so is the shrub....unless of course, you would have us believe that as long as the bucks are directed upward to a ruling elite class (as was the case in the Soviet Union) and left to trickle down across the land does not qualify as redistribution of wealth.

Get over yourself. Palin and McCain have busted their own slur campaign just by opening their mouths. It does not matter to me whether or not you understand basic economics...what matters to me is how this folly is playing out on the campaign trail with the undecided and independent voters.

I think if they had tried to hide it...(sm)
it would have been 10 times worse. -- that would also be true if we were talking about dems in that position.  Having said that, since Palin advocates abstinence and safe sex (as do the dems), the position her daughter is in only proves that this approach does not always work.  I don't fault Palin or her daughter for the pregnancy, but I do fault the republican party for putting her up there as an example.  It just sends a mixed message.  I just think it was a bad choice.
Are you listening at all. sm
California, broke Calfornia, would not withstand the cost and could never comply with the protocol.  Never.  Seattle maybe.  At any rate, 160 states and cities is nothing.  A mere drop in the bucket. One can only hope that is because the others understand more about what is going on.
Listening over, and over and over, and over, and over and over and over
FYI...I am not affiliated with either party and most definitely am not a liberal.
I have been listening to CNN. It's not there either.
As for Focks news, they have less than zero credibility, so I'll take a pass on that one. I stil suggest you get that hearing air tested. You are imagining things. Did you ever come up with a source? Of course not.
NY'ers would never run and hide
I am a born and bred New Yorker and you bet we would stand and fight.  New Yorkers are quite a tough bunch.  You must never have met a New Yorker cause you would not question whether they would stand and fight.  And if you are a Brooklynite, LOL, you are even tougher.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less.  I won't answer in this thread anymore. 
Run and hide from this can of worms
You think you can dismiss W administration boondoggle on this by pointing a finger at 2 people? Cooked books do not even qualify as the tip of the iceberg on this issue. I will not be going to chat rooms and biased resources to analyze this one. It is HUGE and frightening in terms of just how close the country is to total economic collapse. Whether you realize it or not, this crisis has global consequences in overseas markets. We will not be the only ones mopping up and ultimately a global solution will need to come into play.

In any case, this subject deserves more than just a casual flippant dismissal, is quite complicated and requires objective and in-depth analysis before concluding who is responsible and, more importantly, what can be done in terms of policy and legislation to prevent it from happening in the future. Most definitively, of paramount importance will be the "R" word that sends chills down the spine of W's flock…regulation of the mortgage/banking lending practices. W is positively allergic to that idea, and McCain's policy on that is exactly what now? At least Obama had already addressed this issue in his platform and is currently making an effort to "study" the situation further before issuing any further statement on it. I appreciate that in a leader, especially when it comes to a crisis of such magnitude.

Your Enron analogy is delusional. Enjoy while you can and just wait for the real underlying issues to reach the light of day. Like I said before, this feminist flap is a featherweight distraction from critical problems our nation is facing, but then again, I would expect nothing less from the JM/SP camp.
He can't hide the fact

that he cheated on his first wife many times before he met Cindy McCain and left his wife for her.  I also have a good friend who as a former fighter pilot actually knew John McCain.  He saw the philandering first-hand and has a very low opinion of him.  And he is a conservative republican. 


Probably because you hide behind your anonymous
daily moniker. You won't tell anyone what you do, who you are, or what your husband does.

The previous poster did, and I applaud her and her husband for all their hard work and dedication, and community involvement.


Sounds like someone I'd like to call a friend.


How do you know Obama has nothing to hide? sm
I get no real pleasure with my gut feelings on this man. He was a complete unknown except for his past associations which he completely denied and threw to the curb when needed. It is a fact that he has put under lock and key, important documents that reveal his character. What you have seen play out in the media, is what they want you to see.

Everyone has a past. Hopefully, Obama can rise above it and prove himself to be an honorable leader. But some of his choices show his lack of character, and only time will tell who the real man is, who will become our next president shortly.







I myself think she was trying to hide it as long as she could -
the night she was first brought out, her daughter held the other baby in front of her all the time with an old blanket draped across her front. At the time, I kept wondering, why she would do that, and now I believe she was trying to hide her stomach from view that night.
O will fold and hide
behind Michelle's ample skirt. He has neither the experience or the guts to do what is needed. We will be run into the ground under and trampled over under O.
Yep, she could not hide her bias.
nm
Hide and watch. Isn't that what our very own

do, hide and watch right before they pull the trigger like they did with Dr. Tiller in a church no less?  When it is Obama that is their next victim that they have been **hiding and watching**, I can't wait to see the explanations for that from the hiders and watchers on this very own board.


Then you haven't been listening.

I have seen at least four conservatives express concerns about Bush on several occasions, and they even elucidated them. Of course, you would have to take off those blinders to see them but you aren't about to do that.  What a joke.  As far as your remarks about racisms, I consider your remarks extremely racist.  And never mind the fact that black Americans, one of whom was quoted here, are also defending Bennett.  Their voices don't count because they must be Uncle Tom's, right.  AGAIN, a racist way of thinking. 


Warrantless listening in on me...bad. nm
nm.
She's been listening to Hillary too much. :) nm
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Were you listening to the question?
She was asking him over and over what decision she had made concerning the Alaska National Guard. How could he possibly know that?

She was not the brightest bulb anyway...she asserted that the governor would not deploy the National Guard to Iraq, David Petraeus would. Even I know that the governor of the state has to deploy the national guard of that state...the president can't, and David Petraeus can't. They can ask for them, but gov has to give the orders.

At the end of the interview she said: "I'll give it to you, Tucker baby."

mea culpa.
The republicans are listening to their ...
constituents who do not want the bailout. They reported on TV this morning their fax machines and phones ringing off the wall. They don't like the bill as it stands. The fact remains, the Democrats had the votes to pass it had the 69 who voted nay had voted yay. They didn't do it because they don't want to be holding the whole bag if it goes south. So to whine about the Republicans who listened to their constituents and not wanting to stick their necks out caused it to fail...wrong.

But it is totally political...the Dems do not want to vote in majority with "Bush/Paulson" plan...because if it failed...you know the drill.

Sigh.
According to what? I'm listening to every station
One station says Palin won 86% to Biden 12% and 2% undecided.

Another station said Palin won 72% to Biden 26% and undecided 2%.

The only ones who said Biden won was hard-core Obama supporters, but they had no reference to say what poll they were talking about.

So according to the polls I'm reading on all the sites and stations (except MSNBC of course and I'm not seeing any official polls except for their opinions) state that Palin was the clear winner.
I am listening to Obama right now
on Fox news. He has said McCain's name about 20 times in the last 2 minutes. McCain is not the only one talking about his opponent. I still want to know how Obama is going to pay for all these things he is promising...he is going to pick the hardworking pockets of the middle class to give it to people who don't work
The only thing I have been listening to is
my own conscience and the uncanny way my candidate is able to give me voice.
HELLLOOOOO - Are you not listening.
The certiciate on factcheck is a forgery. Do you know what a forgery is? That means it is not real or legitimate. Hence, the Supreme Court is now involved. Just by the O supporters saying it is real doesn't make it so.

Let's wait for the experts to decide and also keep an open mind.

This is not an issue just by Fox. This is an issue that the Supreme Court wants to find out, many judges, and lawyers, and believe it or not even a lot of democrats. There are people from each of the united states who want to know this before it is time for the electorates to vote. They want the issue resolved. Many lawsuits are going on right now. Not just one.

So if it comes out that O is not eligible for office you still will have your democrat in there. What's the big deal.

But please don't provide us with these nonsense organizations that support the O to believe what they say. Let the indpendent people who follow the law and are defenders of the constitution to decide. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was John McCain and he went around and had the records sealed and then had Swiftboat come out and say "oh yeah, I viewed it, it's legitimate" you would want an independent party to view it. So why don't you want an independent party to view Obama's real certificate. He never submitted the original like he was supposed to. He submitted a forged one that was created by a computer (which anyone can do now adays). And I wouldn't take the home state where the O went to school after he returned from Indonesia and where his grandparents lived to validate this. Of course they want him to be president.

Let the courts decide!
Stop listening to the MSM
You're only getting one side. The one they want to portray. They have always been enemies of Israel. You can tell over the years by them reporting about those poor innocent palestenians, hamas, etc.

You need to read both sides. "H" launched the first one. Not Israel. So you think Israel should should just sit and take it and let their innocent be victimized and killed and not do anything?

Enough is enough. Their blood is not on our hands. Their blood is on their own hands. We're not doing anything. Israel is trying to protect itself.
Limberger lies and tries to hide it, LOL
Biggest bunch of bunk?  Limberger stated terrible things about Sheehan, ranting and raving.  Then when he is called on it, he has it disappear from his website and states he never said any of it.  Yet, the proof is in the pudding.  Limberger is a liar, as are quite a few of the prominent radical right wing neocons, including the warmonger chickenhawk in the WH.  The proof is there, the words were spoken by the druggie.  So there is no reason to get all huffy and puffy, you have nothing to defend.  Thank goodness for the written word and videos.  Limberger..phew, he stinks.
Party all you want. Then go hide your money from
nm
Oooooo...let's all hide under the bed till he's gone! (nm)
You right-wingers are some wacky folks! I can't help but laugh at some of your posts.
Yes, any money you have left, hide it!. Otherwise,
nm
be grateful you have money to hide
so stingy and hateful
No instead they hide behind woman and children
In their own country. Not in boats.

I wish the people reporting this on the news would not be so iggy.
This is a lie. They live in Gaza. They don't hide there.
They were democratically elected into power, defeating the Fatah party, which retains its majority in the West Bank, but Hamas has won elections there, too.

The majority of the people in Gaza live in the squalor of refugee camps under the iron fist of their hostile occupiers who imposed an apartheid police state and enforce blockades of basic supplies such as food, medicine and MONEY. This strangles their economy and starves their people. Israel was supposed to lift the blockade as part of the cease fire conditions. They have had since June to do this and by the time the cease fire expired on December 19th, they had not done so and had no intention of doing so. THAT is why the cease fire did not hold. Surprise, surprise. More lies and broken promises from Israel, only these particular lies are creating deadly and fatal conditions for the entire population in Gaza. Can you say genocide? It's a war of attrition at the hands of Israel and sanctioned by the United States.

They do not hide behind women and children. The population in Gaza supports the resistance to the blockade, since they and their children are the ones who are being slowly starved to death. That's why they elected Hamas. An occupied population which has been invaded repeatedly, blockaded, has the highest unemployment rate in the world (Gaza at 45%), has no medical supplies and is on the verge of starvation tend to arm themselves and band together against their common enemy. It's human nature to do so. This is not about anything more than simple survival for them.
Actually, I was TRYING to hide from Rush; impossible because...sm
like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can. You know, it is ironic that Rush could be a lying, hypocritical pill-popper addict AND still be the messiah of the Republican Right. Were he a Dem or Independent, there is NO WAY that stuff would have EVER been forgotten/forgiven, no way. Just because we are not listening to the rantings of a hypocritical, press-hunting, pompous, loud, obnoxious BS'er like Rush does not mean we "don't get the real news"....on the contrary, I think it shows we do, and we can read between the lines and interpret with intelligence. JMHO, putting on my flame-retardant suit.
And that's NO JOKE! Hide and watch! Exactly what
--
If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
You hide BEHIND race...that is your obsession with O
And, yes, admit it, you didn't have a clue about MLK, as many that repeat his words don't know, or they would rethink the Obama thing....

You do NOT know what he stood for, you just repeat stuff he has said and that is all. Do you know how he felt about dems? No, you don't.... how he detested them? no, you don't, do your homework and stop trying to twist things around...

For you and especially the loud mouth ranting earlier, race is THE issue...so why is it you don't mind spewing it out but you just can't take the truth thrown back at ya?! I suspect you should get over it as you put it...


Give it up, B. They aren't listening. NM

Careful what you say, God's children might be listening!

The religious right's version of freedom of speech.  Scary, huh?


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/06/tech/printable1099028.shtml
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Criminal Twist In Evolution Debate


LAWRENCE, Kansas, Dec. 6, 2005


(AP) A Kansas professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he sent e-mails deriding Christian conservatives was taken to the hospital Monday following what he said was a beating.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki told the Lawrence Journal-World that two men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be offered for the first time this coming spring. Originally called Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies, the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's request.

The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.

I didn't know them, Mirecki said of his alleged assailants, but I'm sure they knew me.

One recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization referred to religious conservatives as fundies, and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a nice slap in their big fat face. Mirecki has apologized for those comments.

Lt. Kari Wempe, a spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriff's Department, said a deputy was dispatched to Lawrence Memorial Hospital after receiving a call around 7 a.m. regarding a battery.

She said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. in rural Douglas County south of Lawrence. Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind, he said. They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.

He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object.

Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital.

Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his injuries included a broken tooth.

I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots, he told the Journal-World.

Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30 and 40 years of age. One of the men was described as wearing a red visor-like ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup truck.

Wempe said the department will investigate every aspect, but couldn't discuss specifics.

Andrew Stangl, president of the Society for Open Minded Atheists and Agnostics at the university, described the attack as bizarre and terrifying. He said Mirecki, who is the group's faculty adviser, is adamant that the alleged beating is related to the recently canceled course.

That absolutely shocked me, he said, because people don't do that in a civilized society.

Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their politics.

I have zero tolerance for thugs, she said. There is never an excuse to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an excuse.


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Listening To Hillary's Speech
on CNN this morning and just as she is getting to the part where she is detailing her plan for withdrawal from Iraq,CNN cuts away to cover Cheney......You don't think there's any significance do ya?! 

Politics!!!!!!!!! ARGH!

I could not find any coverage on any other channel.

You must be listening to Rush/Hot Air America.
I would say, then that the jury is still out, but I do remember SP introducing her husband as the "man she admires most in the whole world." Also, I have read several other sources nonpartisan sources discussing her support for Alaska's succession from the union fringe movement. She will have a great night, as any debutante at her "coming out." Polls may or may not bump for a day or 2. Nontheless, these issues, as they pile up, will find their way to the light of day. Not lookin' real good in terms of country first.
This is like listening to a broken record! (nm)
It just keeps skipping back and repeating the same thing over and over and over. Do have these comments set up in a word Expander to save time and keystrokes?
You have been listening to crud for 2 years...
and buying it every step of the way. Drink up!
You mean like listening to Rev Wright for 20 years...
and never hearing the sermons. hmmm
You mean like listening to Rev Wright for 20 years...
hmmm
Listening to an Obama lecture...
...er...speech is a form of torture to many of us. 
He's real. He is who is he is and he doesn't hide behind fakery. sm
I respect him for that.  Harry Truman was not polished either.  Neither as Lyndon Johnson.  It's just not a big deal right now.
Doesn't hide behind fakery? You are kidding, right?sm
I am surprised lightning has not struck the man for all his lying, never mind all the blood on his hands.