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I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
He has been called out a lot this week for lying, even by his own party...sad he can't play nice
:)
Hi, JTBB, I posted exactly the same thought s a couple
of posts above before I read your post.
You see, I cannot believe what I am reading here. Isn't this SLANDER what these people are doing? Reading these posts I thought I fell into a snake-pit, so much hatred, it's unbelievable.
Actually, McCain criticized Obama for his passivity and restraint. According to McCain Obama should have declared
WAR ON IRAN.
At that point the US has no right to any action against Iran.
So much hypocrisy, I bet these are the people who put the Bible under their pillow during the night and during the day they shout, 'War, war, war!'
A bipartisan prayer request viewed as provoking hate.
by taking this kind of position and posting these kinds or rants.
I think one of his messages was GOP needs to
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why do you keep replying to your own messages
and the messages are too bizzare. First you answer this post by saying no rest for the wicked, then you answer that post by saying take the day off, then you answer that by saying cough, snort???? None of this makes sense. Are you losing it? Maybe you do need a day or two off (your words).
To answer this original post, first his name is John McCain. It would be a good idea to stick to his name and not the childish words that keep getting posted. I have never seen an independent or conservative say any other name except Obama. So if you go there then expect some posters to call him Obrother, Oliar, OmyGodNo, Oflipflopper, etc, etc. Yes, Bush attacked McCain when he was running for president. Same as Obama attacked Biden, Biden attacked Obama, Clinton attacked Obama and Biden, etc, etc. Everyone attacks everyone during primaries. At least McCain didn't pick one of the other running mates from the primaries. Obama did. Obama promises change he gives us the same. Obama promised he was going to bring the troops home, now he's going to leave them there. I also read recently that Obama has stated he will support a draft and that everyone should fight, not just some. Obama keeps flip flopping everytime he turns around. I had great respect for him during the primaries, but now his lies and flip flops are so obvious. I know you would prefer that Obama can attack McCain anyway he sees fit (lies, misstatements, calling the oponents pigs, etc) and McCain is supposed to be kind to him because he didn't like it when it was done to him????? With all the attacks Obama and his camp is pulling on McCain & Palin for no good reason and not even sticking to the issues, I can see exactly what his character is like, so yes my friend, that does speak of his character. It is not a pretty sight.
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I watched the film again. Yup, still am disgusted. I looked for those "subliminal" messages. Even backed it up and went through it clip by clip. Nope, nothing "subliminal". The film is telling you about Obama, Ayers, Weatermen, Acorn, etc. The films clips are of actual footage of the outcome from the horrendous crimes. While Obama will quickly dismiss these associatios as "coincidence" or "he just happened to be a person in my neighborhood" he is not being truthful. Read the history. He has had long-term associations with them and still does (maybe he stopped while campaigning, but no doubt he will pick back up once the election is over) - and if he happens to be elected? Well nothing subliminal there. You know what will happen. If you're in agreement with what Ayers did, what Acorn does, etc, then I'm sure you think it is fine, and if some people don't love America like a lot of us do then I can see why they would think this is the greatest man since the invention of sliced bread. But a lot of us do love America. A lot of us do want America to be free. A lot of us do want to own our own business and invest in America and not have our money "stolen" from us by government that we worked 60 or more hours a week for to make ends meet and now have to work more hours cos the people who aren't working but could are receiving their welfare check (i.e., my money that I had to put in an extra 20 hours a week of work to get it).
If you don't like the film fine. That is your opinion. But plenty of us want to know who Obama really is. Who are his ties? Who are his allegiences? And more importantly - why did they choose him? He didn't pick them, they sought him out. Who got him elevated to where he is at so fast? Who made it possible for him (without experience) to rise past Richardson (a governor with more experience), Biden (over 30 years experience), Edwards (over 10 years experience), Kucinich (close to 40 years experience), and others. And even Hillary (8 years experience and 8 years as first lady (16 if you think being a first lady is experience - I don't but its still more than Obama has).
Who is this Obama guy who so quickly was placed into the position when now (even though I voted for Obama over Hillary) we are finding out that Hillary actually did win. Has to make you wonder who put him where he is (hint - it is not the American citizens - not conspiracy - FACT). There are too many unanswered questions. It has nothing to do with propaganda - it has everything to do with learning who and what Obama is.
To the other poster who thinks poor Obama gets slammed 24/7. Looks like somebody googled a dictionary to find a whole bunch of words. Funny how it's okay to slam McCain/Palin 24/7. As would be described by others "we're just trying to get out the word about them". I'm not slamming any posters on the board. I simply am posting a link about a candidate that I feel very strongly is one of the worst choices for a candidate in history. I'm trying to get people to open their eyes and learn more about them. If you don't want to believe this fine. Google Obama put in everything you can. Even use other search engines like Dogpile and others, but for Petes sake, don't go by what's on Obama's website, or stop the smear or any of those other propaganda websites that pull the "poor Obama, everyone is picking on him, he's so innocent, don't beleive them, call them racists, etc, etc." That is propaganda. And if your going to be getting any "subliminal messages" it will be there. When you have 2 candidates you cannot honestly believe any of their info they put out. Candidates lie to get your vote. That's the ways it's always been done. The only thing the conservatives ask is that people educate themselves about each candidate (both of them). Who are they. Who did they associate with. How did they get where they are at. Who is financing them. What organizations did they belong to and what was the purpose of those organizations. Did they attend secret meetings and if so where and with whom and what is the purpose of those secret organizations. What have they done in their careers. What are there voting records like (i.e. if someone (any candidate past, present, or future) votes for the past 2, 3, 4 or more years to raise taxes but now all of a sudden during the campaign has changed their tune and they are promising you they won't raise your taxes or they'll lower your taxes) has to make you think. Also, and most important to me - Is the person we elect going to uphold the constitution or going to change it because it doesn't align itself with their ways of thinking. In knowing everything I know and in other people's feeling Obama is not. Obama associates with people who say "God D@m American" and people who say "American makes me want to throw up".
I posted the video link because it is one of many films (we won't even go into Obama's ties with Kenya) that is trying to put out the truth about Obama. He used video clips of CNN reporters asking questions and everyone KNOWS that CNN is one of the most liberal (MSNBC is the most liberal - CNN is 2nd) TV stations. Do you disagree with what Hillary Clinton was saying? Do you think anyone wanting to know the truth about Obama's affiliation with Ayers should be just shut up?
So until this election is over I will continue to try to get the word out about Obama life (the one he is hiding from Americans and covering up by instructing his followers to call people racists and insult them if they say anything negative about him).
sorry sam, got the messages mixed up
your right. I thought that gourdpainter was saying people on this board were going to be responsible for attacking Obama then I thought she was calling us skinheads. HA HA HA HA....definitely good thing I went and took a dinner break. Now I understand what she was saying and what your reply was. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry, didn't mean any offense to you. I just get irrited at being attacked all the time.
Mixed messages...(sm)
You basically just said we are all in this together but pi$$ on the poor people. Unbelievable. 
There were subliminal messages
encoded on those CDs Obama gave Brown. He has now been assimilated and reprogrammed (not that he needed a he!! of a lot of rewiring to start with.)
Read prior messages...
Messages seem to say prepared = gun ownership/usage
And if you read the previous messages
Nice try!
Not "bull". Read messages above to
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Then quit asking questions and posting messages
If people stopped posting then it wouldn't have come to this.
Stop complaining about where she gets her sources - see messages
Especially since you only post from MSNBC. Who cares that someone posts from Fox, MSNBC, CNN or whoever. You have nothing to complain about the content of the information, just where she posts from. Personally I trust Fox over MSNBC, CNN, Huffington post or any of the far left liberal rags. At least we get the truth from Fox. If all Fox did was praise the annointed one up and down and all over and was giving us lies 24 hours a day like MSNBC, CNN and others you'd be praising them. You just don't like to hear the reality of what is happening.
Here's a hint - Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN all report the same exact news. They just have different commentator shows.
P.S. - Louis Farrakan called Obama the Messiah. I'm sure he's not a conservative (could be wrong, but I don't think he is). Also, Obama NEVER came out to say I am NOT the Messiah. He let people think this with all the miracles he was professing he would do once he got in. The liberals are the one who have said "Obama is the new Messiah". So, everyone just picked up on what the liberals were taughting (sp?) throughout the campaign. Unfortunately too many ignorant people believed it.
So please, enough with whining that someone posts an article from Fox.
Words can come off sounding like an attack, because these messages lack..sm
facial expressions, demeanor, so it leaves the reader to interpret the mood.
I don't know if you were saying me or Sir Percy was a recovering Democrat, but either way I'm a registered Democrat and have never voted for a republican president because of where I stand on social and civil issues.
Speaking of frustrating democrats, and I never thought I would be going here because I have a lot of respect for her. I was even bidding for her to be the first woman president, but Hillary needs to take a stand and stand firm on it, and let us know what it is. Her centrist stance is frustrating because I think she is the one democratic model out there that could speak and be heard and respected. Yet she has been quiet, and too her lack of opposition to the war has taken my respect down for her a few notches.
That is CLASSIC propaganda, music and subliminal messages too
Wow, holy cow is right. How can you allow yourself to be fed this hateful propaganda. It's one thing to take something out of context, but to add in characters and newsflashes about the markets tumbling and to add the dreadful music and paint Barack as some kind of partner in Ayers activities is just anti American. This is anti American crap and you should get educated instead of being a patsy and letting your mind soak in these images. God help you if you ever watch a cult film, you will be drinking the Jonestown Kool-Aid.
I reported 'Ahem's' and 'Anon2's' messages to the moderators
I suppose it is the same person.
Does anybody else get error messages half the time they try to post on this board. ?
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Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."
That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.
It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.
You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?
Not nice.
Of course conservatives are wrong. And often. I am one, so I should know. What I am NOT is a neocon. That word gets used a lot here and it is used incorrectly. I am not the original poster but I wanted to point that out.
Really nice, isn't it?
Not all of them are gone, but a lot were removed. Smells a lot better on the Liberal Board today, though it probably won't last. 
It's really nice to have you here.
As you can see, you may also be called names on this board, as well. The monitor has asked that they stop, but they continue to do it. If they begin to attack you here, I hope you will just consider the source, laugh it off and continue to post here because they aren't important and certainly don't represent the majority of normal Americans.
Exactly....have a nice day. :) nm
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nice
When a woman gets attacked by a man with knife, do you condemn her because she didn't fight back hard enough?I say condemn the attacker, not the attackee....you attack folks and then condemn them because there feelings where hurt instead of addressing the real problem which is your bullying.
Nice try, but no....
I started posting here about 3 years ago, and there was no observer but me. If there was one before that, I had no way of knowing that. Taiga did not "steal" Teddy's moniker. They were always the same person, just posting under two different monikers. I have posted under two...Independent for awhile, and then Observer. Observer was not in use when I changed to that moniker, and if there was one before my time...as I stated...I have no way of knowing that. Again...did not accuse Taiga of stealing the Teddy moniker. She posted under both.
Nice. (sm)
Fortunately your opinion on this subject means nothing to me. Those who want to pray will. Those who don't, won't. It is a free country,and while no one can force you to pray, no one can force us not too either. Much as you would like to have that control. What a myopic view of life you have. Party line vote Dem or die and dam* anyone who doesn't agree with you. Sounds decidedly UNdemocratIC to me.
nice try
This comes from the same pinheads who were absolutely certain that Rush would go outta business when Clinton got elected. Yeah, right! 20 million listeners at least, and HOW many hundreds of millions later?
And y'all actually think Keith Overbite & Mr. Potato Head actually discuss news seriously when 1 has crabs or something crawling up his leg? And give up the opiates re Rush. He fixed that problem, but didn't do the resume enhancement like the celebutards do. Start that empty crap & I'll just keep listing their names.
And just to clarify things, in case anyone didn't catch the post about the NAGS, that's Rush's pet name for the National Assn of GalS. I knew I wasn't the only Dittohead on the embarrassment of a board.
Face it. Y'all have nothing to offer here, just empty insults and thrills over women "choosing" to kill babies. That's the only definition y'all have of "choice." Funny, but I thought choice was supposed to mean that the woman decided either way. Nice try once again.
nice try....but NOT
I take you comparing me to Sam as a compliment though as I do value a lot of the same opinions.
However, once again, instead of actually coming on with facts and trying to prove an actual point, I find someone who just spats out anything. I was not the one who started this post. I was just stating my opinion and sharing some experiences I've had raising horses and what has happened in the past when deer hunting was not allowed. Those are things that I have seen first hand.
That would be nice!
Doubt that will happen, but my husband and I could pay off the house we just built, have money for the kids college education, etc.
oh come on... he seems like a nice
and he wants change.... give him a break... LOL.....
I'M WITH YOU!!! PEOPLE ARE SO INTO HEARING WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR THAT THEY ARE BLIND!!!!!!
nice
from yet another who cannot back up what exactly obama stands for besides "change"... hmmm
there was nothing psychotic about her post.
It would be nice
there was help for those who help themselves.... not just help themselves to handouts.
That might be nice, but don't look to
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Nice Try
Our economy is in a bad way, so what does "O" do? Raise taxes! What on earth are y'all thinking! So taking $ from you to give to someone else makes sense?
This is comparable to the women who went totally nuts over the Beatles!
Check your taxes for 2007, 2008, then 2009. The facts will speak for themselves.
Just more white guilt, too, which is also pitiful.
that sure was nice!
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Nice try
Yeah, that so-called nutjob recently signed another long-term contract (7 years, I believe) for how many millions?
I never miss his show.
Have you ever actually listened to his show? You'd like his official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley. You can find clips on google.
When I got married, we used his theme song to announce the wedding party at the reception
You just said she was nice. Why don't you
accept her as she is then if she is a nice person. Maybe she wants to raise her baby is a safe place. I live in Arizona and the only illegal immigrants I have a problem with are the drug dealers who bring their dope across the border.
its nice to see him in an
informal setting. Every pol goes for a photo op once in a while, just to remind you they are around. I enjoy seeing him smile and interact with people. He makes me smile. God Bless America, how fortunate we are to have him at this time in history.
nice try
I dont think so. I am an American. As a matter of fact I was a soldier and I helped defend this country. So dont even try to tell me that I am not American and I should leave just because I don't like or agree with the present administration. Do I hope that Obama will be all that people need? Sure. Do I think he will do it? No. That has nothing to do with my American pride or heritage. This country was founded on many things that are not in effect today and I dont have to blindly support things that are blatantly wrong with our government. Most politicians are liars and crooks and our government is not a representation of our country. Our country is hard working American people who have built this land up based on dreams, faith, hard work, and pride. Our government is supposed to answer to us, not us to them. You have the wrong idea and should not categorize people based on whether they like Obama or not. That is why we VOTE and have the FREEDOM to choose who we want in OUR office.
Thank you. Nice to know I'm not alone
I liked Sarah Palin a lot and was the main reason I was leaning more towards their camp. I actually kept going back and forth. I liked Obama, then I liked Sarah, then I liked Obama, then I liked Sarah. I could not make up my mind. But I liked Gov. Palin a lot. Washington needed a new face. Someone not on the inner circles and corrupted by Washington politicians/lobbyists. She said things as she saw them. She was the only one out of all of them who had the qualifications. She was a governor and knows how to balance a budget. If she believed in something she stuck to it. She didn't give in and say one thing then run over to a different group and say another thing. Like some people did. You want to talk about experience? Obama had less experience than she did. As for her saying things and making mistakes. Nobody has a right to say anything about that because your all okay with Biden saying the most @ssnine things. You didn't like that she carried her baby around, but you were okay with Biden carrying around his grandson everywhere (talk about an obvious prop). He'd look around for the camera then grab his grandson and make sure the camera saw him carrying him. I liked the way Sarah spoke. She spoke the truth and to the point. Sorry it's not fancy/sleezy enough for the Washington crowd. She/McCain had ideas for how to get the people back working again. Now look what we've got. Someone who just keeps telling us its going to get worse, passed a bill that creates no jobs for the country and nothing to stimulate the economy, and is punishing the people who are hard working and trying to survive. Just more money for them to line the pockets of the politicians. But then again it doesn't matter what we thought because the people have no control over who is elected. Obama had been selected a long time before the election even began.
I liked Sarah Palin and I don't care what anyone says. She was a real human being. You can slam me all you want. Sure there were other candidates I would have supported, especially every time Biden spoke. He's puts his foot in his mouth every time he speaks and it's becoming more and more evident this guy is either going senile or truly does not know what he is doing. No wonder why the WH keeps him behind locked doors.
But it's all a double standard. People say she didn't have experience, don't vote for her, we have to have someone with experience. Then when it's brought up about Obama's lack of experience (i.e. no experience) we hear. You gotta give the guy a chance. They trashed her personal life, but when anyone spoke about Obama's personal life they were told don't talk about his personal life it has nothing to do with his being president. When people said, you can't bring Palin in, she's not Washington, she's an outsider, but when they were told well Obama is new and he hasn't been in Washington very long himself (i.e. no experience) and has been in Illinois most of his life we were told we need a fresh face in Washington. When we brought up Palin's balancing the budget we were met with Obama got a bunch of people registered to vote. You just can't win. None of what I wrote pertains to anyone on this board, it's what was in the news. And I was watching MSNBC during the election because I was voting democrat, but was interested in Palin. And the best of them all was when people were asked "So you're voting for Obama because of his policies? and they answered yeah, then when asked "So if Obama is elected President you wouldn't mind Sarah Palin as the VP?" And they all said "No, I think she'd make a fine VP". HA HA HA. What's that Master card commercial where at the end it says "Priceless".
Nice try, but once again
no cigar.
It would be nice if EVERYBODY would
follow the rules of this board, but some apparently think they are above the rules.
The two posters you pointed out are not the only ones who call other posters names, especially in the last week or so that I've noticed, but the instead of falling into the argumentative mode, you need to ignore their posts.
It is nice to know that our
economy is in ruins, we have spies interfering with our electronic grid, our president bows to the Saudi King, every country still hates us even with Obama's major butt kissing and you are concerned about Levi and Bristol? Who cares. How many teenagers really stay together even when there is a baby involved? This isn't a matter of national security. It is a teenage girl who screwed her boyfriend and got knocked up and then they broke up. Like that never happens anywhere else in the world.
I personally couldn't care less if Levi and Bristol broke up. Who cares? If you like teenage drama, you might want to watch the N channel and get your fill with Degrassi or something and keep this nonsense off the political board.
nice..
very Christian of you saying her husband is as messed up as she is. showing your true colors.
It would have been nice if instead of
just throwing our country under the bus and calling us arrogant and apologizing if he would have also listed the good things that we have done for other countries. Instead he just says that we are arrogant and apologizes and blames Bush. Our country has done a lot of good things for others too. Why does Obama constantly focus on the bad things. Does he think that constantly bringing up bad things will make people like us more? He is really naive and stupid if he thinks that. If Obama really wanted to move forward, he needs to stop the blame game and MOVE ON! This is his administration now....not Bush's. Yes, Obama inherited a mess but I don't see him doing much cleaning up of this mess. I see what he is doing as making things worse.....not better and that isn't Bush's fault.
Aw, that's so nice! =)
See? People with differing opinions CAN get along on this board - just have some respect for each other like these two posters.
You are both an example for the rest to follow.
Nice try....almost...(sm)
Sending pics as proof? That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.
Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.
Maybe you should do some research next time.
Nice try....almost...(sm)
Sending pics as proof? That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.
Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.
Maybe you should do some research next time.
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