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I just heard on TV that he's not planning

Posted By: MTME on 2005-06-28
In Reply to: M15 Agent - vt

on talking about the war in Iraq, per se, but more about the war on terror.


Does this mean he's targeted another country to "spread freedom" to?  With 74% of the American public thinking Iraq was a mistake, I'd LOVE to see him try to sell another war to this Congress, after all his lies the first time.


Having 9/11 being an inside job is only a notch or two lower than using that tragedy to promote his own personal war against Iraq, so I don't think it would surprise me.


I don't know if I can stomach watching him or not, so I haven't decided yet.




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That's what I'm planning. LOL (nm)
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That's what I'm planning to do.
I'm so sick of hearing about this already, I don't plan on watching.
If he is already planning a 2M party
he's pretty much announced that he is going to win too...

and during the last debate he said a bunch of times "when I am president"

Goes both ways.
I am not talking about YOUR family planning...
it is the additional life that is created that I am talking about who, in my opinion, has every much as right to life as YOU do. Period. If you could stop for one minute and realize, it is not all about YOU. Or perhaps that is the problem. You absolutely think it IS all about YOU.
JM may be planning but we're not hearing about it
Every day in the news is talk of Obama's $2M party.
OMG! Look what low-life Obama is planning to do!!

Such bad, bad taste!  Such a disrespectful man!  (I forget...what are the other names he's been called by his honor-challenged haters?)


Dinner Honoring McCain to Be Hosted by Obama


Saturday, January 10, 2009; 2:30 PM


President-elect Barack Obama will host a dinner honoring Sen. John McCain, the Republican he tromped in the election, the night before his inauguration, the Presidential Inaugural Committee announced yesterday, saying the gesture demonstrates Obama's "commitment to bridging the bipartisan divide."


The dinner will be one of a series that night: Gen. Colin Powell and Vice President-elect Joe Biden also will be feted.


"In these times of great challenge and great change, leadership requires rising above the same old narrow partisanship," Obama said on the PIC Web site. "Each of these distinguished Americans has spent his life in service to his country, at each and every moment placing the interests of America before issues of political party."


Congressional leaders from both parties will attend the dinners at the National Building Museum, Union Station and the Hilton Washington.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/10/AR2009011001099.html


 


Do you know how long the terrorists were planning that?
That was their second attack on the towers.

The first time, they rented a truck and tried to knock the towers down by detonating it in the underground parking garage.
When that failed, they regrouped, formed another plan, and meticulously set it in motion. Took years, but they accomplished their objectives, save for that heroic United flight.

The problem with Americans is that they have very short attention spans. They think if the war's not over in 2 or 3 years, it's 'old news' and they move on. If it's not on their TV screens every night, with flashing lights and music like an MTV video, they can't process the information. Out of sight, out of mind. Like the victims of 911 and the noble men and women fighting the war on terror. All forgotten, for the most part, by an impatient, clock-watching public.

Terrorists, on the other hand, know a little something about watching and waiting. In a religious war like they're fighting, time is measured in centuries.

So, I'm sorry, but your little theory just doesn't hold water, and was naive in the extreme.

The simple truth is that there has not been another attack on US soil since Bush has been in office.

Why don't you try to sound just a teensy bit thankful that your hide is safe, and not in a foxhole somewhere, or digging out of the rubble of a bombed-out apartment complex? A little dose of humility, and reality, goes a long way.
Disability is one thing...poor planning is another
I'm sorry for your situation, and I do believe people who cannot work due to a disability should have help. I'm not heartless. I'm really kind of stumped, because I thought employers and insurance companies could no longer deny/discriminate people a job and/or insurance because of pre-existing conditions. I know that you can't get disability insurance with pre-existing conditions, but again, it's my understanding that no one can be denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions. My husband has diabetes and has changed jobs in the last five years and has gotten ins. with no problem.

The problem with most socialized medicine is that if you have a serious condition, say like cancer, at some point they quit treating you. This is what is happening in the U.K. as we speak. So, in a round about way that's being denied health care altogether. You have to then seek it out of pocket, and most of the time you have to leave your home country to pay for it out of pocket.

Unfortunately, health care is not a right. It's a privilege. Again, the problem with U.S. health care is the government at it's core, and it will only get worse if the government is given full management over it.

What part of my family planning is NOYB
Not worth drawing a single breath in response.
haha - like half the nation is planning on doing!
;)
On 3/17, Specter denied planning to switch. Here's the quote:
(Link provided below)

In a March 17th interview with The Hill, Specter said he absolutely would not switch parties:

"[Democrats] are trying very hard for the 60th vote. Got to give them credit for trying. But the answer is no.

I'm not going to discuss private talks I had with other people who may or may not be considered influential. But since those three people are in the public domain, I think it is appropriative to respond to those questions.

I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role, a more important role, to play there. The United States very desperately needs a two-party system. That's the basis of politics in America. I'm afraid we are becoming a one-party system, with Republicans becoming just a regional party with so little representation of the northeast or in the middle atlantic. I think as a governmental matter, it is very important to have a check and balance. That's a very important principle in the operation of our government. It's in the Constitution on separation of powers."

Thanks for the civics lecture, Arlen. Apparently this is just another one of those "inconvenient truths" that got to be more than you could actually live with, eh buddy?


*Heckuvajob Brownie* starts disaster planning firm
Ex-FEMA Head Starts Disaster Planning Firm




Former FEMA Director Michael Brown, heavily criticized for his agency's slow response to Hurricane Katrina, is starting a disaster preparedness consulting firm to help clients avoid the sort of errors that cost him his job.


If I can help people focus on preparedness, how to be better prepared in their homes and better prepared in their businesses — because that goes straight to the bottom line — then I hope I can help the country in some way, Brown told the Rocky Mountain News for its Thursday editions.


Brown said officials need to take inventory of what's going on in a disaster to be able to answer questions to avoid appearing unaware of how serious a situation is.


In the aftermath of the hurricane, critics complained about Brown's lack of formal emergency management experience and e-mails that later surfaced showed him as out of touch with the extent of the devastation.


The lawyer admits that while he was head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency mistakes were made in the response to Katrina. He also said he had been planning to quit before the hurricane hit.


Hurricane Katrina showed how bad disasters can be, and there's an incredible need for individuals and businesses to understand how important preparedness is, he said.


Brown said companies already have expressed interested in his consulting business, Michael D. Brown LLC. He plans to run it from the Boulder area, where he lived before joining the Bush administration in 2001.


I'm doing a lot of good work with some great clients, Brown said. My wife, children and my grandchild still love me. My parents are still proud of me.












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Maybe if we all supported family planning and free contraceptives - WORLD WIDE - abortion would no l
And I know of not a single person who thinks abortion is "wonderful", only an occasionally necessary evil.
Heard that before.
When was that? Oh yeah! Gee, I really miss Nan, I wish she'd come back to the board. LOL!!!

I apologize to those who don't know what I'm talking about - again, the guilty party knows full well.

Anyway how's this for a subject? - The mayor New Orleans was a Republican before he ran, and switched his party affiliation to Democrat before he was successfully elected. Landreau is a Democrat. The Louisiana governor is a Democrat. Seems we have a lot of democratic leaders in an otherwise supposedly Republican state.

Wonder what effect if any that has had on the slow and disinterested response from the federal govt. in helping the people of New Orleans?
Everybody's heard of her now, eh?
That was a long article, but I think it did highlight the fact that Bush is neither a friendly or a courteous guy - insiders have been saying that for years. Can't use the excuse that he didn't want some antiwar journalist raking him over the coals - that kind of journalist would never have been allowed within the same building as he, if she had that kind of reputation.

It seems clear that the Bushes consider themselves American Royalty and that's unfortunate, because America was born from a resentment of just that kind of above-the-law holier-than-thou don't- speak-until-he-does kind of nonsense.
This is the first I heard of this.
Thanks for posting it.  I love the title, Water the Bushes.  :-)
Have you heard this one before?
The proof is in the pudding.
That's because I have heard sm
holding one's breath until one turns blue tends to affect cognition. But I have only heard that, I am not sure there is any truth to it.  Would you happen to know?
I heard that.
It was published in some conservative magazine but was unfounded. He never went to school in Africa at all. The magazine said that they got it from the Clinton campaign. I am wondering since when did a conservative publication print anything the Clinton campaign has to say. Anyway, I still think knowing first hand something about Muslims and Islam would be beneficial.
Well, I have heard

that it is "HARD WORK" and he is "WORKIN HARD"   I know this is true coz this is what he told us in the last prez debate.


 


only heard a little of it, but
apparently did not realize he had a "hot" mike and said something about obama may be talking down to the black communities. now it has been "taken out of context" and he has apologized and made it clear he supports obama.
Sorry. I did not know that. Had not heard that.
I will post link from now on. My apologies.
No....the last I heard they really don't know...
who is going to speak when. I had not heard he cancelled. Several have been postponed because of the hurricane.
I heard this, but....
I heard the story too. I have not been able to find a credible source to be able to acknowledge or deny it. But I think she would have some very very serious problems. I remember some religious leaders were trying to ban the Harry Potter books and there was a huge uproar. People may think she's going to do this or that, but I think we have to remember she has to get approval from congress. The VP alone cannot make these decisions and pass laws. It would have to be voted on.

I heard what he said....he did not say the...
economy was strong, that is not what he said this morning. He said the foundation of the economy is strong, and it is, or the situation on wall street today would have been much worse. He, in fact, said that the economy was in crisis and it needed to be dealt with in the way of reforming of lending companies, regulating non-bank lenders, etc. (non-bank meaning lenders not backed by the FDIC)...which all makes very good sense, since all these lenders folding and the housing decline have more to do with the economy going downhill than anything else. At least he is not talking about raising taxes on already stressed companies like Mr. Obama is.

And come to think of it...how can Obama give a tax break to 95% of people when right about 40% don't even pay taxes? How can you give a tax break to someone who doesn't pay taxes anyway? Oh yeah...you tax the companies that provide about 80% of the jobs in this country and give those 40% a freebie. And somehow that is supposed to help?
I heard
I heard reports he did not quit.
as you may have heard

long ago in pre-history class,  the prez and VP work FOR us.  If they want the job, they have to communicate with us, even when they don't like it or are having problems with Todd.


 


Here is what I heard
Okay, I've been working all day but DH has had the TV up full blast (he's a news junkie), so have caught things here and there.

My understanding is this (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to pass on false information).

JM and BO both go to WA and there is a big meeting with the pres and all the other people. I heard that things were "cordial" when the press was in taking pictures but once they left there was yelling, arguing, fists pounding on desks, etc, etc. I heard it did not end very good at all and people ended leaving and sounds like some people won't talk to others. My understanding is that the democrats proposed a solution, but it didn't hold the responsible parties responsible, and what they submitted would still let the CEOs and higher up people walk away with all their money and the American people would be left the ones who pay for the bail out. I understand the republicans said no it wasn't good enough and JM refused to back down and said the American people should not be the ones to pay for this. I've heard a lot of other people talk and they said it was not a good proposal at all.

I believe (again this is what I think and have caught from tid bits here and there) that JM wants to stay in WA until this crisis is worked out but BO wants a debate no matter what and he wanted to hurry to get where ever the debate is and he ended up telling the people "Call me if you need me" and then left.

That's my understanding on it. I've been listing to all the news stations and cannot even begin to tell you what all the people said about this because they say it so much better than I ever could. But that is my brief summary.

I was just stunned thinking this is a major major crisis and it needs to be resolved and BO doesn't want to stick around and says "Call me if you need me".

All I say is brother, what a mess we have.
I heard
They were threated with martial law if they did not vote for it.


Something that I have heard nothing about...sm

is medical care of veterans coming back from Iraq and Afganistan.  Their injuries are so severe that in prior wars they would be dead.  Now they are coming back alive but so severely injured, brain injuries, limb loss, PSD, etc.  The veterans should come first, along with their families, national guard, regular army, navy, air force and marines.  They should be getting the best care that money can buy, not only for their acute injuries, but for their rehabilitation.  It is a disgrace that they become invisible when they come home.   


Sorry, I never heard his name.
Republican radio talk show host?  Well, why does that not surprise me?
I heard about this too.
Where does it stop?
Had not heard this before....

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html


You can do a search on the names and find the video of Sutton talking about Al-Mansour raising money for Obama (long before he ran for office...money being raised to help with his education).  This Al-Mansour is quite a character.  Read up on him.  Very enlightening.


IS a man known by the company  he keeps?


 


and yet I have heard you say more than once
that you are not voting for Obama, but against McCain. Is that not hammering McCain? And who says that my REAL reasons have not already been posted? I am perfectly capable of thinking for myself and tired of being called names for not thinking like others. It is silly because it doesn't matter to anyone who has already made up his/her mind why I vote the way I vote. I don't wish to be called a racist or rabid or any other names anymore, so while I might read this because I really have nothing else to do, I think that I have had enough posting.
I think I just heard....
the founding fathers screaming and whirling in their graves. No wonder this country is in the shape its in.
From what I heard
There were two black panthers. One of them had a night stick and he was escorted away by police, but the second one lives there and is actually a polling officer or watcher and so he has a right to be there. but I don't think he should be allowed to be there dressed that way. He told a polling officer that they were tired of white supremacy and that's why they were there.


okay - what I heard -
Okay - exactly what Obama said is that "you are absolutely right, McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith", GS then says "your Christian faith" and Obama replies, "I mean that McCain has not suggested that I am Muslim".

He is saying that the McCain campaign was not bringing that out themselves because they knew it was not true and that it was just lies being spread by people.

He NEVER said he was a Muslim and it is clear to me that he is saying he is not.
Last I heard,
spelling/grammar police are against the law on this board.
Yep you heard right?

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/officials-obama-considering-hillary-clinton-secretary-state/


I just want to say I hope you will feel better soon and I do not want to upset you, but I will be praying for you that you get the best doctors that will fix and correct the area in your back.  You take care and get better.  Believe it or not, you will be missed.     


and where does this come from? Never heard that before now - nm
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When I heard.............sm
that when the Walmart tried to close its store but customers kept shopping and refused to leave because they had been waiting for hours for the store to open and "we aren't leaving" I about lost it.  No decency whatsoever. 
I heard that! sm
I had to check this morning to see if I had a waddle under my chin and feathers on my posterior! LOL
What I heard was ....(sm)

that Bush did come to an agreement with the dems, but now won't let go of the money.  His plan is not to bail them out, but rather make sure they have an *orderly bankrupcy* -- whatever that means.


Also, that nice little bill he just squeaked through for the *right of conscience* thing goes into effect either today or tomorrow.  Yeah, it was aimed at abortion, but is very broad in its interpretation.  For example:  If you have a child who needs antibiotics, the child is prescribed antibiotics by doc, you go to the drug store, and guess what.....the cashier just happens to be a Christian Scientologist....(who, by the way does not believe in antibiotics).  That cashier can refuse to sell you that drug and does not have to give any explanation whatsoever to either you or the company they work for.  Passing this bill will take about $44 million, and how much money will it take to reverse it?  That would be our tax dollars at work!  Nice going Busher!!! 


I have never heard of this before until now.
Does he not believe in B-day gifts and Christmas gifts? And if so, what is the real reason?
The last I heard was he was not going to tax the
nm
I heard that, too. And obviously someone must agree with

your point of view because the military hasn't been able to meet their recruiting quotas for several months now.


Might be a combination of all the parents out there saying NO, combined with just general common sense of the would-be recruits who've just heard too much about lack of adequate equipment, that little "fine print" rule that has had soldiers who thought they were finished with their time in the military being dragged into Bush's war, etc.  I've also heard that the Department of Defense hired a civilian marketing firm to create a database of high school and college students to find out their birth dates, social security numbers, academic results, ethnicity, subjects studied, and personal EMAIL ADDRESSES to use for recruiting purposes.  Hmmmmmmmm... I wonder which groups would be targeted.  Maybe that's why they are asking for ethnicity and subjects studied.


 


now screams are heard
Now there is no electricity, running water or even sanitary water, just mud holes, so when the Iraqi's are killed by Bush's war, every scream and cry is heard. 
hadn't heard about this. sm
What do you think about it?
I never heard that quote before. sm
Please provide a link.  I would like to read the entire article. 
Thank you, Democrat..I have not seen nor heard
this commentary before...gives me goosebumps...
That is what I heard. Do you mean Republican? sm
Most of the conservatives I know are Libertarian.