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I remember the post you are talking about. SM

Posted By: Brunson on 2005-08-08
In Reply to: Where were you and all your righteous indignation - Watching

It has been removed, I am sure because this Dixie person posted a horrible post to Nan and if memory serves, Nan's response was not to call her a drunk but to ask if the bars had closed early.  It seems to be gt is the one calling people a drunk.  Just an observation. 




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    I remember the post you are talking about...sm
    and even during the Lunsford trial back on the old board this did not seem to be a conservative concern. Liberals posted more about this and conservatives posted more about the Shiavo case. I'm not going to get into who cares or who doesn't because all I know is child molestion is hovering at the top of the list for me. I think while this is a morality issue, it is a legal and political one as well. Our legal system has to protect the most vunerable in society - the children, and our politicians should do whatever in their power, i.e., change laws to protect them.

    This is the one topic that I see eye to eye with Bill O'Rielly on. He thinks every state should adopt Jessica's Law and I agree and I think people should consider if the person they are voting for will make changes in this direction. Just look at the Groene children and how the man who killed that family and abducted the two young children was out on BOND for molesting a 6 year-old. A repetitive offender can waltz around with no worries and continue his spree on innocent people.

    Jessica's Law should apply to the leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition too. The thing that disturbs me the most about the priests and religious leaders is that oftentimes other people know what's going on but they cover it up.
    Nope, never said I wasn't black, but I remember the argument you're talking about...sm
    Nan, Military Brat and Bush supporter took me to task over whether or not I was black when I said *and who said I was black anyway* I'm trying to find this in archives.

    But, what I can't stand is people having a preformed opinion about how I am going to think or should think since I'm black, that's why I don't post my race. Once I posted that I was African American that's when they started the *I thought you said you weren't black.* Which I have never denied my race. Sorry, but not true.
    Thanks for your post. Do you remember

    where you saw that?  It sounds very interesting, and I'd like to read more about it.


    Your post was polite and responsive. You didn't spend your time immaturely calling others names.  Yours is one of two intelligent posts on this board, and I'd really like to read more about what you mentioned.  Thanks.


    Here is the post I am talking about. SM

    Posted By: GT on 2005-08-08,
    In Reply to: It doesn't matter, this post is unforgiveable. SM - Metrics

    Yup, exactly what I said..and I stand by it.  Unforgiveable?  Good, sweetie pie, dont forgive me, I couldnt care less.  I dont live my day and night worrying about what you think of me.  I dont forgive Bush and his administration nor his family for this war and for sending our military and not their children..and making everyone of us a target for terrorists for years to come..and destroying an ancient country, for nothing..and yes, Laura Bush did kill a school friend when she was drunk and driving when a teenager.  Did that truth hurt?  If Hiliary or Chelsea had killed a friend while drunk they would have been vilified.  If anyone should get banned, it should be the person who posted that I would chain myself to the WH and blow myself up.  That post is about the most sick and whacko I have read on the political boards   I wear your unforgivingness as a badge of honor..


    I don't know if you're talking about my post or not.

    I think the subject line that All Americans Deserve to Live (or something like that).


    I see that my post is gone, and if mine is the post you're referring to, I'm sorry.  I can't repost it.  It was just something I quickly wrote from my heart, and I didn't keep a copy of it.


    I guess I'll have to start saving a copy of everything I write.  :-(


    my post was not talking about the past
    My post was in direct reference to the OP "blaming" Bush for something that isn't his fault. DHL is looking to the future and that is why they are laying off people. Not because of anything that's happened in the past.
    AR, you can't remember what you were talking about from moment to moment.
    Sorry for the late reply, I've been gone a week. Now AR, I have no problems admitting when I'm wrong about something. However, you STILL have not pointed out anything I said that was factually wrong. First you attack me for claiming R. Bennett was a partisan Republican, which I never did. Seeing that YOU were wrong, you then shifted gears to try and attack me to say that the Bennetts don't LIKE to be lumped together and that was what I really intended to do!! Just admit it!! LOL - sure I was speculating that they may share the same upbringing and philosophies, which is a very logical SPECULATION to make. I never said I didn't do that. That was the point of the whole post.

    Arm yourself better next time and you might not come off looking like such a ninny.
    If you are talking about the Obama Nation post...
    it was written by a black pastor and it is his opinion. He was not hired by nor affiliated with the McCain campaign. There are several black preachers who do not agree with black liberation theology. There was nothing in his post about hatred. He said homosexuality was a sin..it is. He didn't say he hated gays...just that the Bible says the ACT is a sin..and it is. Just like lying, adultery, murder, etc. It does have the distinction of being the one sin that God classified as an "abomination." All the preacher was pointing out was that when Obama said there was nothing specific in the Bible regarding homosexuality...he was wrong. Again...there is no hatred in that post. He just doesn't agree with Obama's philosophy. Where you get hate from that I don't know....did you even read the post?

    And by the way....sniping and cattiness must be your strong suit? You seem to excel in that area. Can you just drop the cattiness and sniping (as you asked that I do) and go figure, as you told me to do? Thank you so very much.
    Re-read my post....I was NOT talking about Obama himself...
    I am talking about his followers. And yes, it is more like followers than supporters, and a great many of them, including on this board, turn into a snarling, snapping, pack attack on anyone who posts anything negative or unflattering about him. I cannot believe you can say that no one can make you hate. We all have the capacity within us to hate. But no one hates spontaneously and it most certainly can be taught. do you think Islamic terrorists were born hating? Of course not. But they are taught it, and they learn it. Just the way a lot of kids were taught racism. THey werren't born hating, it was taught to them until they thought that was the way it was supposed to be. They didn't even know it was hate. Louis Farrakhan preaches hate. The I disagree totally that hate comes from within and that no one can make you hate. Oh yes they can.

    All that being said...I did not say that by design Obama makes his followers that way...I said I didn't know. But the fact remains, those are the traits they exhibit.

    And I never said, not one time, that Obama was a hater. Did not say that at all. All I said was he inspired that kind of emotion in many of his followers.
    Thank you for answering her post with a liberal talking point. :-) nm
    nm
    Nope. I don't just post talking points. I back it up.
    see above.
    Good post. My husband and I were talking about this the other day....brrr.....sm
    more than scary stuff....but you've hit the nail, smack dab on the head.

    Thanks for putting it into layman's terms for everyone to understand (should they choose to, anyways).

    I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
    nm
    Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
    tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
    When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

     


    who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


    Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


    THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


    Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


    Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
    nm
    I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
    about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.

    It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.

    Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
    Just remember

    "the South don't need you around anyhow..."    from Lynard Synard "Sweet Home Alabama"


     


    we each remember what

    we value most.  I will remember the years of prosperity and delight of having such an intelligent, charismatic leader.  You can remember the blow jobs if you wish.  I  rarely think about JFK in the WH pool with bimbos, because he was so much more than that.  Just a helpful hint.


     


     


    I remember one of

    the other speakers - Britt Exhume.


     


    remember that

    song by Cindy Lauper "True Colors."   I see your true colors shining through . . .  If you cannot recognize inappropriate behavior in a statesman, you shouldnt be commenting.


     


    remember this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJJN9qwhkkE
    Yes, I remember very well. nm
    .
    Uhh...if I remember right,
    It was Michelle Bachmann who BLAMED Chris Matthews for TRICKING her into answering the way she did. She is undoubtedly unqualified to be a congresswoman...let's just get rid of her. She can get a REAL JOB.
    You may not be old enough to remember......... sm
    the Nixon administration and a lot of the news reporters these days aren't for sure, but I am and I remember how paranoid he was. He was really one strange bird! As far as the foul language, I doubt he could outdo some of our other more stellar presidents from years gone by. FDR was no altar boy.

    Any person who takes a public office, regardless of the level, is open for public criticism. I guess that is the American way. But even though there may be damage done to our country, the ultimate time of truth comes between him/her and their Maker. That is one time of recompense that no one will escape.
    remember 9/11?
    Find me anyone in this country who wasn't ready to go to war on September 12, 2001. Where would we be now? And if you travel, you will find many countries still love America and what it stands for. Why do you think so many people come here from other countries? Having traveled, I have seen it myself.
    Are you old enough to remember who
    You and Fox News actually think that the former Iran-contra McCain compadre war profiteering arms dealing Contra coup financier, megalomaniac military man who holds himself above the law North has any credibility whatsoever? His notorious flagrant disregard for the boundaries of his own authority and self-proclaimed untouchable status flies in the face of any American with any respect for the rule of law. Get real.
    Right. I seem to remember after
    9/11 hearing about them being told to shave their beards and blend in with our culture/society.
    I remember when my dad used to get
    Back in the late 70's and early 80's, my dad worked hard.  He went to school and became a pharmacist in Flushing, Michigan outside of Flint.  I went to school and EVERYONE's parents worked for GM, Chevy, and other car companies.  There was just a handful of students whose parents did not work for a car company.  My mother's side of the family all worked for a car company.  Thank God my cousin, the last one in the family took early retirement 3 weeks before the big financial downhill with the US economy.  My dad used to be so upset.  He went to school for 4 years and became a pharmacist and still got paid less than people who worked for GM with no schooling, all FREE eye exams and glasses, free health care, free cars, free everything.  Boy did it burn my dad up.  We then moved from Michigan to Arizona in 1982.   
    Actually if you remember
    When McCain was ahead dow went up, when Obama was ahead dow would go down. It was a rollercoaster but we could tell which way the dow would go by who was ahead during the election.

    With all the taxes the O plans to raise, most people are pulling their money out of stocks, and many are getting out of things that will raise their taxes. The owner of the Miami Dolphins plans to seel before the O takes office. The O's lack of knowlege of how the economy thrives on lower taxes, smaller government, and creation of jobs is going to be one of his downfallings (but unfortunately the country will suffer because of it).
    You see, what you have to remember
    that matters, to he!! with the constitution or anything else that may stand in his, or as Ms. Pelosi put it, *our,* way. Just like everything since he announced his candidacy that doesn't sit well with him, just sweep it under the rug and forget about it!
    Just Remember
    The "alternative plan" that 90% of the Republican Senate caucus voted for contained tax cuts only. No stimulus. Just tax cuts. This "alternative plan" would have cost over $3 trillion in lost revenue over the next decade, without investing one single dollar in economic stimulus.

    It's hard to be bipartisan when the other party is insane.
    You have to remember.....
    he has only been in office for what? 6 weeks = give or take? For me (and undoubtedly millions of others) to see this change in our COBRA this fast is utterly remarkable. I have never seen a president move as fast as he has and cover ground as much as he has in such a short period of time. NO ONE can tell me he isn't "working." He is working his tail off. He talked about cutting all the BS spending in Washington and they have line itemed 2 trillion in savings ALREADY! I BELIEVE we will see some very serious change - some things not so fast, other things incredibly fast. I am impressed with what he has accomplished already after decades of ineffective leadership. I wasn't sold on the stimulus bill.....some of it probably won't be effective, but, we won't know until we see the outcome. I hope for good things.
    Anybody else remember this?
    I think an airline lost a law suit for adding on a surcharge for double-wide passengers.  They had originally tried to charge for two seats, but then changed it to a surcharge, but still lost a suit.  I don't think I'm making this up, but don't have time to research it right now. 
    Remember...
    James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, huh? Please!
    Remember...
    James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!
    Remember...
    James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!
    Remember...
    James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, right? Please!
    Remember...
    James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, right?

    Please! Talk about ridiculous claims!
    please remember
    that unemployed and under-employed are two different things. Wonder what the under-employed number would be. I have been led to believe it is quite high. I have no statistics on this and wonder if anyone else would know more about that.
    Don't you remember what
    Janean Garofalo said?  Any opposition makes you a racist.  Had he been a white guy, Bush....say...or McCain, then it would be perfectly okay.  Glad to straighten that out for you.
    Remember Pat Buchanan?

    I just watched him on Hardball.  He acknowledged majority of Americans are against the Iraqi war.


    They were discussing Cindy Sheehan.  The only words he used to describe her were "authentic" and "has authenticity."  I was fully expecting him to slam her, but he didn't.


    Wake up, already.  The majority of Americans are against this war.  Want to use our troops for a real, legitimate purpose and not some invented theoretical justification to get even with the guy who tried to kill your daddy once?  Put our soldierse on our borders with Mexico and Canada.  Let them prevent terrorists (posing as Mexicans because they have the same physical characteristics) from crossing our borders and KILLING US.  That would go a long way toward BEGINNING to fight terrorism HERE, where we REALLY need it, not in some foreign sovereign nation who posed no real threat to us.  Let them do their REAL job, which is to protect and defend America during a time when we've never needed them MORE to do just that.


    By the way we remember who Casey is
    He was the brave and valiant young man who gave his life for a JUST cause.  In fact, he believed in that cause sooo much that he re-uped to stay there.  It's sad that his mother can't be proud of him for that.   Well, the rest of us are proud enough to make up for his sadly mentally ill and duped mother.
    Oh yeah, I do remember that
    Nan was stalked mercilessly by a very, very rude and hateful person.  I hope yahoo got them...
    Let me just qualify this, as some might remember me...
    talking about affordable health care and I was able to make it, yada yada, are now thinking "she has room to talk, she is on hubby's insurance." Well, let me put that to rest. This is second marriage for both of us. Suffice it to say, I am paying out the same amount of money I was paying out before the marriage. Also suffice it to say, BOTH of us learned in marriage #1 to keep finances independent. LOL. Just clarifying that. :-)
    I remember in the mid 1980s...

    My clunker was in a coma, and I went to the Chevy lot and bought the cheapest car I could find, a Chevy Sprint.  (Didn't even have a radio when I bought it!)  I remember my 12-year-old daughter throwing a hissy fit and NOT wanting the car because it didn't have a passenger side visor mirror.  In spite of her vain self, I bought the car.  This car easily got 50 miles per gallon.  (Of course, I had to buy a mirror for the passenger side visor and a radio, as well.  LOL)


    Whatever happened to the Chevy Sprints that used to be???  If they could build them then, why can't they build them now?


    You are way too immature to remember
    0
    As a mom of 3 young men, I remember
    vividly the day my oldest left for the Air Force. He was 19. There was no war. Then son #2 left in the National Guard in 1991 during Desert Storm.

    I have to give her credit for even being able to speak, let alone hold up under fire, right after sending her son off to war!
    You may be too young to remember, but that is what..sm
    they said about John F. Kennedy and we all know what happened with that election and Nixon's loss, eventual election, and ultimate disgrace to our country. Most would have said Nixon was more qualified and had more experience. What do you think?
    Ewwwww - I remember that - sm
    If it wasn't bad enough that that was disgusting what was even more embarrassing was when my mom had to literally explain it to my grandfather as he didn't know. Poor gramps, so innocent. HA HA My mom said its not bad enough that Clinton was doing it and she had to explain it to her father, can you imagine the parents having to explain it to their young children.
    don't remember which interview

    watched so many with all the political shows.  Can't even visualize the reporter.