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I said you profess because you have said it many times on this board (sm)

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-11-03
In Reply to: Well, I happen to be one who believes - gourdpainter

Not by any personal judgement, just going by what you said. I think God has a sense of humor too...but I don't think making fun of Jesus fits into that humor.  I think maybe you are letting the flattery get to your head a little.  You are a very intelligent person and you did say you are a Christian.  Too much flattery from the big bad atheist seems to be affecting you.  Just remember who you answer to ultimate....it ain't me.


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Well, as I have heard on this board SO many times...
regarding keeping the government out of people's uteruses...why aren't those same people wanting to keep the government out of our homes?? Oh well...I guess it is tough to assimilate kids into the young socialist movement if pesky parents get in the way. There are none so blind as...well, you know the story. Sigh.
GP, don't forget you profess to be a Christian (sm)
Don't be so easily swayed into joking about that sort of thing.
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
LA times
Everyone knows the L.A. Times is a liberal rag.
How many times?
Really is irrelevant. This woman is being used as a shill for a Marxist/Leninist organization called ANSWER, which has anything but America's interests at heart.
100 times????????

Okay, so when caught lying just spin an even bigger lie.


This is really getting out of hand on this board.  All you CONS do is lie.  This is crazy.


Okay, so please cite the 100 times I have accused someone of lying.  This is your chance to squash us libs once and for all.  I am waiting.


Maybe 300 times? nm

How many times have you said ANYthing?

How many times have you used that
just curious
How many times do I have to say this? sm
NO ONE, NOT ANYONE, EVEN A MOTHER OR A FATHER, can renounce a child's American citizenship, ONLY the child at the age of majority, 21, can choose to revoke it. PERIOD! Get it? NO ONE! This is per my brother who is an immigration attorney.
How many times have we seen

reporting that there is nothing to report...over...and over...and over, and repeating the information they DO have over, and over, and over?  Going to the suspect's neighborhood, place of worship, high school, etc. trying to interview the ex-wife, parents, other people he knew, speculating like crazy just to fill air time and keep a big story alive?  Or investigating the victim of the crime, going to his neighborhood, interview family, etc.,  to make the victim seem either a saint or a stinker? 


The press never takes no for an answer.  Denied hard facts from court or cops, they generally just make pests of themselves messing around in the suspect's personal life to find nuggets to report, then blather on and on.  But they apparently do not consider this a big story.  That they are not following their usual pattern in itself is a big story.


And many, many times...
physical abuse and murder happen without even a trace of slander. Go figure. ;-)
Politics board = political topics. Faith board = religious topics.

Please keep all religious/faith topics and discussions on the Faith board.  This would involve your beliefs, whether Christian or atheist, etc. 


The Politics board is strictly for political topics and discussions. 


Moderator


 


LA Times Article

Great article in opinion section of LA Times (you can get it online).  Dated 06/24/2005, "Hustling on K Street" by Jonathan Chait, concerning Bush paying back the lobbyists and big business.


Reps. John Conyers and Maxine Waters are trying to get a meeting going in Congress tomorrow with Republicans joining in this time to debate and discuss the Downing Street Memos.  Dont know if it will be covered on C-Span, sure hope so.


Laughter for trying times.




Ain't that the truth!!! ~MJ

 

 


 

You accused someone several times of something they did not do. sm
And yet you harp on.  Have you no shame?
I probably have used third person at times....

Why is it so important to you? 


And if you cannot see the obvious differences in writing, well, you appear to be quite ignorant or unobservant or else you are not telling the truth.  But that is your problem and I am not going to make it mine!!!


Yes, PK, too many lies too many times

How many times are you going to say the same thing?!
Geesh! Get over it! You already said, "attacking an innocent..." like a million times! Wow! Move on to the next story already!
No, that would be you......several times today and beyond...nm
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I don't dismiss. How many times have I said...
that all of us should vote for who we feel is best for the country? How is that dismissing? Yes, I am conservative, have always been conservative. I have not changed...the parties have changed. That is why I am now independent..independent of any party. That is how I view being an independent. You have to register as SOMETHING to vote in national elections...and independent most closely defines me at this point, not republican or democrat.
From Asia Times
  http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html
Fannie Mae/NY Times
Check out the date on this. Of course, this came as no surprise to me. It's surprising to ever find an objective article from the NY Times, but sometimes they surprise us.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES

Published: September 30, 1999
In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''

Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.

In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.

''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''

Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.

Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990's. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent.



How many times are you going to reply
about my name, does it bother you this much? You really got too much time on your hands!
Tough times

Notice what affilitation the top 6 are! - N wonder they don't care if we're in a recession.


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/54838.html


Messiah-end times
If after reading this email you disagree, Please, no need to reply back to me. Your opinion is yours and that's fine, just delete it.
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A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that  America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history..
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.
3. In 1979, the  US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at  Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.
9. In 1993 the World   Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
10. In 1998, the  US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.
11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
12. In 2002 the  United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists..
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss,  but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelations:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40s.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,
'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
 
 
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet....do it!
or again. .  just delete if you disagree.
Think of times someone has made fun of you.
nm
Because, as has been pointed out, several times here....
he is still in charge.  Obama isn't even in the White House yet, but you seem to think it's fine and dandy to talk about him.  I can see Russia from my house, also.
How many times in the last 8 years did
a chance to succeed? You used the phrase "last 8 years" or "8 years ago" 5 times in your post and President's Bush's name 4 times. It is not just you, most people say "for the last 7-1/2 years" or last 8 years, etc. To me that means that they never gave our current president a chance and have never respected him or his office. However, these same people expect everyone who did not vote for Obama to instantly forget everything we have learned about him and fall at his feet. Well, some of us are not drunk on his Kool-Aid and he has to earn our respect.
GP - how many times do we have to repeat
It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation. Obama, Bill Ayers, and Factcheck.org all have ties to the Annenberg Foundation.

Obama has ties to Factcheck.org. In 1995 Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge - A branch of the Annenberg Foundation.

Factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck was also chosen by the Obama campaign as the arbitrar of Obama's birth certificate.

Anyone can put two and two together and see that Obama and The Annenberg Foundation pays Factcheck.org to put out the false information.

Factcheck claims it has "verified" the O's bc, but other sites has found several inconsistencies which call into question whether the certificate is authentic.

Before you tell anyone they should quit reading blogs that have any useful information, you should not be citing a website that is clearly misleading people and feeding them false information, and that is paid for by the Annenberg Foundation which = Obama.
LOL....more like 3 times a night...(sm)

He actually provides enough goofs to keep 2 channels busy -- MSNBC and Comedy Central.


I have to watch O'Reilly.  It's like watching a train wreck.  How else would I know what Jon Stewart and Colbert and talking about....LOL.


Personally, I tried 6 times and still

can't get away from them. Even this tax probably won't help. You name it, I've tried it except Chantix (sp) but I need a doctor to prescribe it and I don't have a doctor yet.


My mom smoked until she was 79. Died 4 months later. DH doesn't care if I don't quit after that because his mother died 6 months after she quit. Doesn't make sense, but it did happen.


Because I was corrected a few times on here, that's why. (nm)
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How many times do we have to explain to you...
Especially since what they have posted is a forgery.


Yeah.......... Times are getting so bad......... sm
criminals are going to have to get jobs!

Good to see you Marmann. I read below of your most recent illness. Sorry to hear that happened but glad to see you are feeling well enough to argue with the rest of us bathrobe pundits!
How many times do you have to be reminded
Guess you couldn't argue with anything I had to say so you picked on "your" versus "you're". If you going to be the spelling police then please stay off this board.

So you don't think I'm an MT because I spelled your wrong????? Talk about freaky that there are people with this kind of mindset. Is your (you're) a medical term? No. How about encephalopathy, rheumatoid arthritis, facet rhizotomy, essential hypertension, and how about millions of other "medical" terms.

Don't you know the difference between this board and an official medical report. Here, let me educate you. This here board that you are on is called MTStars. It has many different topics you can go to. You can gab about issues that concern you (non-political/religious), but if you want to have a political or religious discussion you come to one of these specialized boards. Now if you want to be spelling police you are not to come to this board. There are other sites where you can do that. If you type in some different terms in Google you might find one to your liking. Otherwise stay off this board.

Hence, because you evidently do not know the difference between MTStars gab/political boards and offical medical document I highly doubt you are an MT my dear.

I have been MT'ing for 10 years now, and you know what...I could give a rat's you know what whether or not you think I'm an MT because I spelled it your instead of you're.

And also don't presume to know what party I am, because your showing how true it is about people who assume.

Take your spelling police protocol elsewhere or don't come on the board at all.
How many more times are you going to post about this
I've responded to your silliness below. Kindly read the response to the posts you have ALREADY made without repeating yourself endlessly. PLEASE.
Exactly! You may need to post this 5 more times
nm
Lots of times...
because their behavior is DISGUSTING and that's what we teach our kids, to bash the behavior. Just like any other bad behavior. If you want to label yourself as a sick behavior then accept the consequences of being bashed.
How many times was Clinton

accused of sexual harrassment? I mean seriously.  You've got Edwards cheating on his wife who was dying...what is up with that anyway....she is still alive and wrote a book.  Is she not dying now? 


This kind of crap happens on both dems and pubs side.  I'm not saying that either side is right when doing it.  I frankly find it disgusting but if you are going to go after pubs it might be nice to look at your own party first and see that people in both parties pull this kind of crap.  What is truly sad is that people only seem to go after the politicians in the opposing party rather than holding them all accountable for this kind of crap.


Good article in LA Times
I just read an article about Bush.  It states nothing he has done in his five years has benefitted the working person, only the corporations or extremely rich.  It went on to explain that the rich got $91,000+ in tax cuts, the working class were lucky to get $300.00, heck I didnt get anything.  Yet we now have a major deficit because of the tax cuts.  It also stated the passing of tort reform, keeping law suits for people who are hurt by hospitals, drug companies, major corporations, left maimed and crippled for life, they now have a cap on how much they can receive in a law suit.  Then there is the bankruptcy law.  Corporations can still claim bankruptcy and start over, heck, Trump has done it twice, but in October the working class no longer will be able to.  They will have to go to credit counseling and set up a payment plan for the bills they owe.  The lobbyists are having a hey day in Washington D.C. and it was never this bad but when you have all of Washington controlled by one party, i.e., Republicans, they do what they want.  When they held the Downing Street Memo meeting in Congress the other day.  The democrats asked for a room to hold the meeting and were told by the ruling party, there were no rooms for them to hold a meeting.  So they held the meeting in a cubby hole basement room.  And what company is getting all the business in Iraq?  My my, the company Cheney used to run.  Coincidence?  I think not. Enron and other major companies did not pay taxes in the last few years.  Every year, I end up having to pay extra. Now he is pushing private accounts for SS.  Oh, geez, during the early 2000's I lost money with my 401K.  I would rather get a SS check but you see, its his plan to destroy anything that was created to catch a person before they fall through the cracks, those were created by Democrats.  He does not want govt to be responsible in the long run for a person who needs help.  I look at it this way.  I think a person should take responsibility for their life but if something happens and they need help, for pete sake, that is what govt is for.  I would rather my taxes help my brothers and sisters of America then wage war.
The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.

I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
Yes, it is erroneous . On going through archives it is at least 100 times.

Off with her head.


I have many times tried to encourage debate
You are the one spouting numerous hateful adjectives towards me.  I have tried and tried to understand your way of thinking and I can come to only one conclusion.  You are blinded by your politics to the point that you are out for nothing but revenge, but you can take solace in the fact that you are not alone.  You and many, many unhinged extreme left wing people have managed to hijack the mainstream out of the Democratic party.  You are operating under some kind of delusion that everyone hates Bush as much as you all do.  You think because there are a few hundred people in Crawford, Texas getting a lot of media time that you have somehow turned the corner.  Again, another little delusion in your collective minds.  You can spew every hateful word you can think of towards me and people like me, but in the end it does nothing to deter the fact that you are working under a skewed reality.
NY Times Accused of Treason.sm


Neocons Accuse “Liberal” New York Times of Treason
Monday June 26th 2006, 8:05 am

Michelle Malkin, neocon blogger and concentration camp advocate, has posted a spate of converted WWII posters on her site, taking the New York Times to task for reporting the news, albeit a year late.


According to Malkin and New York representative Peter King, the New York Times stands accused of treason “for reporting last week about a secret financial-monitoring program used to trace alleged terrorists” and disclosing “a secret domestic wiretapping program,” according to CBC News, never mind both programs violate the spirit and the letter of the Constitution. “No one elected The New York Times to do anything,” King told the New York Daily News. “They’re breaking the law to satisfy their own arrogant, liberal agenda.”


In Bushzarro world, newspapers are “elected” to report the news. If newspapers report the trashing of the Constitution, this is treason. In Malkin’s world, it follows that traitors should be thrown in concentration camps, especially if they resemble in any way Arabs or Muslims.


It would seem Mr. King and Malkin suffer from memory loss. It was Judith Miller’s “arrogant, liberal agenda” that brought us the neocon lies about illusory Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. As Antony Loewenstein writes for the Sydney Morning Herald, the “vast majority of [Miller’s] WMD claims came through Ahmed Chalabi, an indicted fraudster and one of the leading figures in the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the group keen to militarily overthrow Saddam. Miller relied on untested defectors’ testimonies (usually provided by Chalabi) to write several front-page stories on this information,” stories that did not pass the smell test at the time and have found the memory hole since.


Ahmed Chalabi, convicted bank fraudster installed as a deputy prime minister in Iraq, was a neocon darling. His Iraqi National Congress, created by the CIA, was the primary source of Judith Miller’s “journalism.” In short, Judith Miller was a hack for the neocons, thus making the New York Times a neocon conduit for lies and propaganda.


Even though the New York Times serves as a shameless shill for the “arrogant, liberal agenda” of the neocons, this does not change the fact the newspaper is protected under both the First Amendment and statutory procedure (see the Supreme Court case, Bartnicki v. Vopper). In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in a per curiam decision that prior restraint (censorship) was not warranted in a government effort to stop the New York Times from publishing the Pentagon Papers. “There’s a tone of gleeful relish in the way they [the Bush neocons] talk about dragging reporters before grand juries, their appetite for withholding information, and the hints that reporters who look too hard into the public’s business risk being branded traitors,” Bill Keller, New York Times Executive Editor, told the Washington Post.


King and Malkin, of course, have nothing but contempt for Supreme Court rulings. It is irrelevant that NSA whistleblower Russell Tice (the source behind revelations published in the New York Times) is protected by federal law. King and Malkin believe the unitary decider and his Machiavellian operatives have the right to look through your financial, medical, and library records, listen in on your telephone calls, read your email, and sneak and peek your computer hard drive and while they’re at it rifle through your underwear drawer because “we are at war” with an enemy never sufficiently documented or designated, an enemy who worked for the CIA in Afghanistan and is not specifically “wanted in connection” with the nine eleven attacks, as his FBI wanted poster reveals.


Obviously, King and Malkin, and the whole of the neocon choir, believe the phony “war on terror,” rechristened the “long war”—i.e., it will last a century or more, or long enough to provide obscene profits for the death merchants—gives the “permanent revolution” Jacobins the right to trash the Constitution.


Quite naturally, this brings to mind Hitler’s Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, an element of the Reichstag Fire Decree nullifying the civil liberties of German citizens after the Reichstag was torched (a fire planned by Goebbels and executed by Göring, according to SA man Karl Ernst).


Bush, not unlike Hitler, feels he has the authority to by-pass Congress (mostly corporate purchased whores, so this is a moot point) and use the Constitution as a doormat where the unitary decider wipes off his shoes, mucky with the blood a few hundred thousand Iraqis.




Well, honestly Democrat, the times that has been tried here. sm
I have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail by everyone but you.
I believe Hastert confirmed this several times.
It's become a real witch hunt now.