I thought Brunson's reponse was succint and summed...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-01-04
In Reply to: You surely know how to debate.....not - Ahem
it all up. And for you to assume on the basis of one post the quality of a person certainly goes a long way to defining the quality of yourself. I do not think Brunson cares to debate the issue...opinion was stated, succint and summed it up.
You have a good day now.
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I thought Brunson made a good point down below.
One of the reasons the antiwar protesters have not been taken more seriously is that they have personalized this against Bush and not against war. I do think it is possible to separate the two. But I also think that protesting in the streets puts our military at risk, in fact I know that it does. The pen is a mighty weapon. Senators and congressmen and women want to be reelected. Sitting in front of the WH with a bullhorn and shouting obscenities and name calling to the President of the United States is not going to ever work. And it shows a distinct lack of respect, if not for the man, then for the office and the White House itself.
Amanda has really summed up most of our lives and
it is scary. I wonder how many transcription companies will close their doors within the next year. The top 3 transcription companies may be all that are left before long.
You've summed it up perfectly.
Today summed up in a moving video.
This was beautifully done!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phyrx3VuwcM&feature=related
Haha! I so agree, she summed it up in 1 sentence, there is nothing more to say!..nm
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Thanks, Brunson. sm
I also enjoy your posts, and I find your tone to be generally reasonable and logical. Like you, I cannot understand the reason for the big fracas when the obvious solution to the problem would seem to be to retire to one's own board if the debate becomes too heated, and I think it is a shame that anyone has had to feel driven away. I had hoped that dividing the boards would provide for calmer and more rationale debate, but that certainly hasn't happened.
Whoever chooses to leave or to stay, I hope we can at some point reach a reasonable level of discourse on these boards so that we can all feel free to voice our opinions respectfully.
Brunson, I think you missed
the point. Democrat was being I believe satirical and quite humorous at that. No notorized documents or right-wing-approved web sites or links are needed here...and she is right, if Hillary or any other Democrat jaywalks we will hear endless monologue on the moral decay of the left. Chill.
you mean Brunson/American
you might get challenged to a duel.
Brunson was a moderator??
Well, that sure explains a lot, doesn't it...
Your flame went out, Brunson burner.
You apparently think I'm gt, but I'm not.
But keep defending the behavior of your cohorts.
You know nothing about me or my mindset, Brunson Burnout.
You're looking and acting like an idiot. Go back home to the conservative board where idiots rule. 
Yet another conservative LIE Brunson Burnout.
Sincere apologies, wrong board. NM
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Posted By: Libby on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to: They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby
NM
Brunson didn't post that. someone else did.
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You're so predictable, Nan or should I say *Brunson*
On June 15th, you accused me of being *Teddy* (which I wasn't), just like I'm not Stephen Crockett. In fact, before reading your post on the Conservative Board, I never knew he existed, and I even told him that when I emailed him regarding your misleading use of his post on another topic because I felt he had a right to defend himself, as it's cruel and unusual punishment for anyone to be compared to Ann Coulter.
It seems he feels that manipulating people's votes to favor one party or another should be a very serious crime, punishable with the death penalty. (I thought you guys were all about the death penalty; I'm shocked.) I can't say I disagree with him. In other words, there was a context to his quotes; he had a reason for saying what he said, as opposed to Coulter who wants to have Supreme Justices killed, John Murtha killed and thinks the Oklahoma City bombing should have occurred in the New York Times Building -- all to assassinate people who merely dared to DISAGREE the almighty Coultergeist -- not because they had committed a crime that stripped Americans of their rights.
As far as accusing me of impersonating him or *Teddy,* I'm sure the administrator can verify that I wasn't posting as either poster, if the administrator chooses to do so. Also, you probably should realize that when you make whacko accusations like this, it diminishes the credibility you have when you post other things.
In any event, I'd like to personally thank you for posting his post. He now has a new fan, thanks to you.
Have a nice day. 
Thanks for taking up for me Brunson, the problem is SM
I didn't post any of these posts. Someone is playing a stupid joke and not a very funny one. However, since Lurker seems content to know me so well, I am not sure who got the real butt of the joke ;)
Brunson...remember Teddy?
Teddy and Taiga are one in the same, though she adamantly denied it until she tripped herself up and finally had to admit it. However, the truth eventually catches up and she just had to be her...if you know what I mean. Would not surprise me if she was the one hounding you. The Teddy side of the personality definitely has/had a mean streak.
I read Brunson's post. You are being disingenuous. SM
and I am pretty sure you know it.
You're full of S**T, Brunson Burner
How's it feel? This is what you posted a little over a week ago to a person who mistakenly posted on your board and apologized for it. You tell them to leave, yet you won't leave the liberal board.
It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM
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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to: They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby
Perhaps you enjoy stories with no kind of facts to them. I am sure you probably do. The fact remains, nanananana comes on here and tells us to stay off YOUR board which we have already done and here you are. Tell me again, WHO is it who will NEVER stop? You are looking like a fool. Since the high road seems to have disappeared for you, try the low road. Any road. Just go.
Well Brunson, I've been posting on the politics board on mtstars sm
for a few years, since it was created. It has took some tough skin - really tough to debate Nan and AG and the others of their ilk. Though I must say their unwaivering love and confidence in President Bush is almost admirable and I can't help but respect a person who knows what they believe in and stand strong for it; at the very same time, not being open to other's view points is close minded.
I have seen in my day AG (AKA Bush Supporter), Nan, and more of their coherts run quite a few liberal minded, even meek speaking posters and they did it with no regard to their feelings. They like to make the debate a personal one, so I would say by looking at what the trolls did to them was a healthy dose of their own medicine, and by the way from what I've read I didn't see death wished on anyone. That's yet another trick of theirs, again you would have to know them, to demonize everything the democrats/liberals say.
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."
That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.
It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.
You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?
I thought I was alone.
So refreshing to have someone on this board that can actually think for themselves. I have such vivid memories of my dad dressing up in his class A's to go to war, and coming into my room crying at 4:00 a.m. in the morning to say goodbye, not knowing if we would ever see one another again. Thankfully, he did 1 tour in Korea before I was born, two tours in VN, and we lived on an Army base 25 miles from the Berlin wall when I was 6 years old. If there was ever an american girl, it is me and my brother. That "american girl" posting on here all the time, if she had to earn her FFFF freedom she would learn to keep her mouth shut.
Same thought here
It seems like one of first major priorities would be to ensure fair voting practices. I'm very worried about the accuracy of computerized voting and possible tampering.
I thought you were new here?sm
People are somewhat like-minded here, but I see distinct posting styles here. I am a conservative (ex-Republican), but I do not post on their board; their ideology does not reflect my beliefs. I have never once been bashed by liberals, even if they do not agree with me.
Just a thought....
Before too long the number of Iraq War troop deaths will be as high as the ones here on 9/11. And all for what? So sad.
You know what I thought when I saw it?
I thought it was posted by someone from the rabid right, so they could come back and respond to their very own post and blame the liberals because people post things like this. LoL!
I thought he was
putting his money where his mouth is. He has donated a large amount of his personal funds to this project, as well as fundraising efforts A lot of celebs just talk, Brad is actually doing something. Why does he have to live in the 9th ward to help.
I sponsor kids on the Salvation Army Angel Tree. Should I have to live with them to help them?
Gimme a break!
Never thought of it this way
You brought some good thoughts to mind. I definitely agree with you.
I know it's not very PC, but I'm sure the thought has
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Another Thought
If Sara Palin came on the scene as an Independent and ran against McCain & Obama, think how that could've changed things!
As a conservative, I'm thrilled to see someone who knows how to play ball with the big boys. Funny how the feminists want all this equal rights stuff, then shoot this lady down before they really know anything about her.
I wonder how upset Hillary's supporters are over this. Time will tell, not just polls.
It should be interesting what history reveals in the end. Either way, this race will go down in the books as a first. That in itself is interesting.
Okay, that's what I thought lol
Two late nights in a row for me...thank GOD it's Friday! :)
I thought so............
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Just a thought about this.
Since I only heard a snippet of this so far, the governor was trying to have others pay him to appoint them to take the O's senate seat?
If so (and don't bash, I'm asking a very serious question here), could this be how the O came up so quick? He paid for his senate seat?
The gov doesn't look like he thinks he did anything wrong. He's kinda young looking too. Could it be because Illinois has always had corruption like this? Gee, I think I'll go to Illinois and run for senator. LOL
Nobody thought that
Patriotism shouldn't be an issue, because there should be NO question whether a candidate for president is loyal to this country. The fact that there IS a question should scare people a lot more than it apparently does.
Do tell. I thought she did too. nm
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I thought that was odd too
I was trying to figure out the strategy was with that. Maybe it was to convey that McCain thinks Obama is so inferior to him, he can't even bother looking at him? I don't know. They were supposed to be debating each other, and I wanted some more interaction.
I kept waiting for him to look Obama in the eye and say you are wrong. Even Bush looked in Putin's eyes and saw his soul or whatever.
I thought I was the only one who thought
as you do. I've been pulling $ out of my savings every month to pay the bills that my paychecks do not. I work longer and longer hours, for less and less money.
I, too, am 100% against this so-called 'bailout'. WHO, exactly, are they bailing out? I would actually LIKE to see the 'train-wreck'. I WANT to see Wall Street crash and all of the banks fail. I don't have any money in them anyway... it all gets spent on month-to-month survival.
I already know how to get by on next-to-nothing. So it would be just EVER-SO-ENTERTAINING if we could sit back and watch all this high-flyin' corporate con-men lose their shirts and have to learn to live on nothing, as well.
The best thing about allowing things to just take their own course, instead of falsely propping it all up with the crutch of a federal bailout, is that maybe, just MAYBE, if the whole system had to be re-built from the ground up, maybe they might do a better job this time around.
So, fire those locomotives up, and point those suckers right at each other! Train-wreck! YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
okay , that's what I thought, so why --
why does everybody say that Obama wants socialized medicine then? That is not what I read. My take on Obama's plan is that he wants insurance available for everyone but that most people will still be insured through their employers, but the government will have insurance plans for those who do not get it through their employer. That is not socialized medicine to me, that is just providing insurance coverage for people who need it.
Just another thought
You say you want someone with experience. Then the obvious choice is John McCain if you want business as usual, dishonesty, immorality, everything that is wrong with our government. Give me a candidate who is moral, honest and has integrity and that's the candidate I want. THAT could and would change the government that has almost already destroyed America as we know it. Sara Palin's inexperience is absolutely NOT what I have against her. If she had the other qualities, which I don't believe she does, I would vote for her although I think she might consider gettingt busy studying as even I knew the name of the General in Afghanastan. More "experience" in Washington D.C. is exactly what we DO NOT need.
Another thought s/m
While I'm on a housecleaning campaign, the only woman I find more distasteful than Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton is Nancy Pelosi. She had her friends need to GO.
STILL VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!! and T. Boone Pickens.
I thought about it some more and
here's what I think: IF Obama is elected, then look out for the White Supremists, a dispicable group, IMHO, right up there with the KKK. Now........how racist am I? I hate these racist issues no matter what color they come from. We are ALL God's children, yellow, red, black and white, we are precious in his sight. So why can't the Black Power AND the White Supremsts let it go already????? Why can't we be just AMERICANS, not African-Americans, not Vietnamese-Americans, not Irish-Americans, not Chinese-Americans.......just AMERICANS????????????? Can you answer me that? Oh, I know, it's politically correct to say AFRICAN-Americans. Nonsense.
VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!
Just when I thought there could not
possibly be anyone more cartoonish than W. -- and there she is!
Just a thought
I am suspect of everything I hear and most everything I see when it comes to politics. I saw some of these people speaking with the media. If they were bribed, whiy do you suppose they got in front of the TV cameras. Our politicians (notice pleural) are so corrupt I wouldn't put anything past them to try to swing the vote and people like blind sheep just follow along.
just a thought...
what's sad and pathetic is that the press everywhere, not just America, reports what stirs people up. the fact that most Americans are working and struggling to make ends meet and put food on the table, and try their best to do what is right and make choices based on what is best for our country, is not considered newsworthy. So what everyone sees is the few loonies who are not at all representative of the majority of Americans, but isn't it fun watching them on the news! It will be a huge relief when this election is behind us, whatever the outcome.
i never thought of it that way
"They sure go to a lot of trouble to fight against something they don't believe in."
gourdpainter - i definitely will remember this; it applies to many areas of life where one should stop the conflict and just 'be'. is it the painting of gourds that lends itself to such peace and sagacity? if so, i will begin painting them today! your wise observations never fail to enllighten and many times amuse. when i see your tag, i know the post will be worth reading!
I thought it was ee-jot........nm
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no it's not but thought
share their experiences... i did not demand... just asked if anyone is willing to share...
i thought
that meant "see message"... please correct me if i'm wrong.
I thought that for a while but....sm
I still think a lot of bad things about Obama and his aquaintances, however I don't think he is the antichrist. He may be a predecessor or an accomplice? But the thing is this - the US isn't the center of the Universe - the antichrist doesn't have to happen to be OUR president. When the end happens it will be nationwide, not just in the US. Many countries have been suffering unbearably for decades and even centuries. Look at the starving children in Africa and all the suffering all over the world. Certainly I desperately do not want us to suffer as well, but we are not the center of the Universe and just because we may end up suffering doesn't mean that is Armageddon. If so, then I guess these other poor countries have been in Armageddon for a long time. I am sure it is all related to the UN though, and someone is bound to emerge in the not so distant future who is the antichrist, but I don't really think Obama is him.
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