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I thought the same thing but was wrong

Posted By: SS on 2009-05-09
In Reply to: It won't be there when I retire so - Trigger Happy

Have gotten to finally draw mine after all those longgggg years. One thing that I wish others would do and that is not be so early to retire if healthy to stay on. Think it would be almost impossible for most to retire at my age and then find another job, at least outside of MTing.


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But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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i always thought going into iraq was wrong!
from the get go.  no surprise to me at all what is happening.  we were hit, but the big question is still why?  why not get bin laden, why go into iraq?  made no sense to me then, and really makes no sense now.  all we did was put our boys in harm way and murdered innocent people.  for what?!  there has got to be more to this story than just oil, money, power, and i suspect we will never know the truth. 
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the govn
was running both Medicare and Medicaid already.
I always thought the same thing about you! sm
Small world, huh?  I always thought you were the one posting as everyone else because most of the posts on here are all the same.  I remember on the old board when it had the times and they all showed up at the same time, too. I guess paranoia works both ways.
I thought the same thing.

Just look at who employs more woman and how they are paid.  You will definitely see Obama not practicing what he preaches on this subject.  Like Sam said, McCain has more women on his staff and they are paid well. 


Seriously think about that before you make that your reason for voting for Obama.


I thought the same thing.
That was just ridiculous.
One other thing I thought of
as I was reading your post and was thinking - he is a great speaker. He has a very deep and calming voice and I think that is a large part as to why a lot of people like him. I've always said he would be a very calming person in any emergency situation (I'll bet he was a great coach when his wife was giving birth). No doubt that he is a very charismatic person like Bill Clinton was, but one thing I have found out is that he does not think very well on his own and is way too dependent on teleprompters. Like you said though, there are many times he'll be speaking and I too say, "He didn't just say that did he? Quick, give him a teleprompter" And I too think "and they made fun of Palin?" :-o

I would keep my ears and eyes open though for the "anything is possible" situation.
I thought the same thing. Wow.


I thought the same thing.

When I read that....I was like....how in the he!! did they not make that connection.  Unless they obviously don't any attention to ads whatsoever. 


Isn't that like a federal crime to threaten the president's life?  I know this person didn't actually threaten to kill Obama, but is wishing him to be assassinated enough to land them in jail?


ROFL. Thought the same thing.
Not Krispy Kreme!  Why God....Why?  In this time of economic crisis.....WE NEED COMFORT FOOD!!!! 
Dejavu(sp). I thought the same thing! (nm)
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I thought the same thing about people who voted for...
Bill Clinton twice. Takes all kinds I guess.
One thing you have wrong for sure. Liberals are so
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Your friend did the wrong thing.
She should have taken responsibiilty for her actions.

Perhaps if she had had a bit of self control and not rooted around with the guy without being married, she wouldn't have put herself in that position.

Your friend's story is disgusting and totally cliche. She found a nice family to adopt the baby she didn't want to be bothered with, but let the 'dirtbag' who banged her (my, she must have great taste in men) talk her into murder.

With friends like that, who needs terrorists?

Women need to close their legs and stop playing the victim.
to clarify - the baby's safety is the first thing I thought of that was worrisome..
it appeared tacky to me to use the baby in such a way. When I re-read my post I guess it could have been taken differently than it was meant. anywho - it is not a choice I would have made as a mother...
Wrong, the thing he regrets most in his life is....sm
what he did to his first wife. By the way, he was not exonerated of any wrongdoing, he was exonerated of any CRIMINAL wrongdoing, although that is questionable in my mind. Both McCain and Palin sing the same tune when accused of unethical behavior, denial, just like Palin still denies ANY wrongdoing with regard to troopergate even though rebuked by the Alaska legislature. Basically it all comes down to poor judgement and thinking you are above the law, something we do not want in another president. We have had way enough of that! Some people just cannot handle power without being corrupted.
"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....


We may never recover from President Obama, at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......


We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.


The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.


He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
Blatent lie is the only thing wrong with this picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children's_Health_Insurance_Program

Question. What does the first S in SCHIPS stand for? STATE. OK. So here we have federal funding provided TO STATES for administration under very broad federal guidelines. Age is defined as birth to 18. Income guidelines define chideren in families living between poverty level and up to 200% of poverty level. Beyond that, it is up to the STATES to determine their own guidelines and eligibility criteria.

Care to post a source for your information that disputes this info?
There is one thing wrong with his claim of going "line by line".....
The O can spout until the day is done that he will go over every item line by line and take out the ear marks and pork, etc. But there is one thing he needs and that the president will never get is something called....

Line item veto. Until the president gets that power (and he never will), he can't cut anything out of the budget.

He can veto until the cows come home, but all it takes is a 2/3 majority of congress to overthrow a presidential veto. End of story.

Until he gets line item power, pork will always abound in any budget or bill that comes across his desk.
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Wrong Woman - Wrong Message
http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-wrong-woman-wrong-message
Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu.
Horse hockey
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


Sorry about that...wrong board, wrong name
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I never said it's a bad thing, it is a good thing....nm
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I thought I was alone.

So refreshing to have someone on this board that can actually think for themselves.  I have such vivid memories of my dad dressing up in his class A's to go to war, and coming into my room crying at 4:00 a.m. in the morning to say goodbye, not knowing if we would ever see one another again.  Thankfully, he did 1 tour in Korea before I was born, two tours in VN, and we lived on an Army base 25 miles from the Berlin wall when I was 6 years old.  If there was ever an american girl, it is me and my brother.  That "american girl" posting on here all the time, if she had to earn her FFFF freedom she would learn to keep her mouth shut.


Same thought here

It seems like one of first major priorities would be to ensure fair voting practices.  I'm very worried about the accuracy of computerized voting and possible tampering. 


I thought you were new here?sm
People are somewhat like-minded here, but I see distinct posting styles here. I am a conservative (ex-Republican), but I do not post on their board; their ideology does not reflect my beliefs. I have never once been bashed by liberals, even if they do not agree with me.
Just a thought....
Before too long the number of Iraq War troop deaths will be as high as the ones here on 9/11.  And all for what?  So sad.
You know what I thought when I saw it?
I thought it was posted by someone from the rabid right, so they could come back and respond to their very own post and blame the liberals because people post things like this.  LoL!
I thought he was
putting his money where his mouth is. He has donated a large amount of his personal funds to this project, as well as fundraising efforts A lot of celebs just talk, Brad is actually doing something. Why does he have to live in the 9th ward to help.

I sponsor kids on the Salvation Army Angel Tree. Should I have to live with them to help them?

Gimme a break!
Never thought of it this way
You brought some good thoughts to mind. I definitely agree with you.
I know it's not very PC, but I'm sure the thought has
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Another Thought

If Sara Palin came on the scene as an Independent and ran against McCain & Obama, think how that could've changed things! 


As a conservative, I'm thrilled to see someone who knows how to play ball with the big boys.  Funny how the feminists want all this equal rights stuff, then shoot this lady down before they really know anything about her.


I wonder how upset Hillary's supporters are over this.  Time will tell, not just polls.


It should be interesting what history reveals in the end.  Either way, this race will go down in the books as a first.  That in itself is interesting.


Okay, that's what I thought lol

Two late nights in a row for me...thank GOD it's Friday! :)



I thought so............
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Just a thought about this.

Since I only heard a snippet of this so far, the governor was trying to have others pay him to appoint them to take the O's senate seat?


If so (and don't bash, I'm asking a very serious question here), could this be how the O came up so quick? He paid for his senate seat?


The gov doesn't look like he thinks he did anything wrong. He's kinda young looking too. Could it be because Illinois has always had corruption like this? Gee, I think I'll go to Illinois and run for senator. LOL


Nobody thought that
Patriotism shouldn't be an issue, because there should be NO question whether a candidate for president is loyal to this country. The fact that there IS a question should scare people a lot more than it apparently does.

Do tell. I thought she did too. nm
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I thought that was odd too
I was trying to figure out the strategy was with that. Maybe it was to convey that McCain thinks Obama is so inferior to him, he can't even bother looking at him? I don't know. They were supposed to be debating each other, and I wanted some more interaction.

I kept waiting for him to look Obama in the eye and say you are wrong. Even Bush looked in Putin's eyes and saw his soul or whatever.

I thought I was the only one who thought
as you do. I've been pulling $ out of my savings every month to pay the bills that my paychecks do not. I work longer and longer hours, for less and less money.

I, too, am 100% against this so-called 'bailout'. WHO, exactly, are they bailing out? I would actually LIKE to see the 'train-wreck'. I WANT to see Wall Street crash and all of the banks fail. I don't have any money in them anyway... it all gets spent on month-to-month survival.

I already know how to get by on next-to-nothing. So it would be just EVER-SO-ENTERTAINING if we could sit back and watch all this high-flyin' corporate con-men lose their shirts and have to learn to live on nothing, as well.

The best thing about allowing things to just take their own course, instead of falsely propping it all up with the crutch of a federal bailout, is that maybe, just MAYBE, if the whole system had to be re-built from the ground up, maybe they might do a better job this time around.

So, fire those locomotives up, and point those suckers right at each other! Train-wreck! YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
okay , that's what I thought, so why --
why does everybody say that Obama wants socialized medicine then? That is not what I read. My take on Obama's plan is that he wants insurance available for everyone but that most people will still be insured through their employers, but the government will have insurance plans for those who do not get it through their employer. That is not socialized medicine to me, that is just providing insurance coverage for people who need it.
Just another thought
You say you want someone with experience.  Then the obvious choice is John McCain if you want business as usual, dishonesty, immorality, everything that is wrong with our government.  Give me a candidate who is moral, honest and has integrity and that's the candidate I want.  THAT could and would change the government that has almost already destroyed America as we know it.  Sara Palin's inexperience is absolutely NOT what I have against her.  If she had the other qualities, which I don't believe she does, I would vote for her although I think she might consider gettingt busy studying as even I knew the name of the General in Afghanastan.  More "experience" in Washington D.C. is exactly what we DO NOT need.
Another thought s/m

While I'm on a housecleaning campaign, the only woman I find more distasteful than Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton is Nancy Pelosi.  She had her friends need to GO.


STILL VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!! and T. Boone Pickens.


I thought about it some more and

here's what I think:  IF Obama is elected, then look out for the White Supremists, a dispicable group, IMHO, right up there with the KKK.  Now........how racist am I?   I hate these racist issues no matter what color they come from.  We are ALL God's children, yellow, red, black and white, we are precious in his sight.  So why can't the Black Power AND the White Supremsts let it go already?????  Why can't we be just AMERICANS, not African-Americans, not Vietnamese-Americans, not Irish-Americans, not Chinese-Americans.......just AMERICANS?????????????  Can you answer me that?  Oh, I know, it's politically correct to say AFRICAN-Americans.  Nonsense.


VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!


Just when I thought there could not
possibly be anyone more cartoonish than W. -- and there she is!
Just a thought
I am suspect of everything I hear and most everything I see when it comes to politics.  I saw some of these people speaking with the media.  If they were bribed, whiy do you suppose they got in front of the TV cameras.  Our politicians (notice pleural) are so corrupt I wouldn't put anything past them to try to swing the vote and people like blind sheep just follow along.