I wasn't offended, I was just curious
Posted By: me on 2009-05-01
In Reply to: My statement was more sarcasm because it seems to me everyone gets worked up over nothing here latel - Amanda
I don't know why or what has changed but this board has become a target for people starting fights over nothing. People get on this board and say oh look at this or look at this, those dumb this or those dumb that. They also spread lies put out by the liberal media, and talk about how great this is when it's not, or they say the republican party is falling apart when it's not. So, I'm not getting a whole lot of information from this board. It's like watching MSNBC here. More lies upon lies. There's one person who comes on and cuts down someone if they post a link to something off of Fox news and calls it fixed, faux, and any other name they can think of, but then they turn around and only post articles from MSNBC (BSNBC, MSLSD), and we all know that is one station nobody can trust to give any truth.
I wish people would stick to issues, like if you had said he's replacing this judge with "so-n-so", what do you think of them, that would have been one thing, but the statement itself was just too open.
But here's what I'm doing to help me get through this administration. I've turned off the news. It seems like every single day I turn on the news and it's just getting worse and worse and worse. The economy is getting worse, the lies keep growing, the promises keep getting broken, he says one thing does another, then the next day goes back on his word. But every single news station - even Fox seems to defend him the more I watch. The only thing about Fox is that they have people on both sides and they are fair and treat the guests with respect. The other stations just drool all over him and anyone with an opposing view they attack. Guess that's why MSNBC is losing their viewers and almost in bankruptcy. But even with that I'm finding I disagree with Fox a lot because they are defending him on issues I don't agree with. So, stopped watching it all. Now I just keep on the movie channels, and pull up a couple websites to get my news.
Anyway...it's just getting bad all over and I see it here a lot, so your question was just too open-ended and looked like you were looking to start something. I'd wait until you hear who the nomination is then bring up some issues.
His job as President is to pick a judge. I figure it can't be any worse than the picks of Clinton, Napalatano, Geitner, and all the other crooks and unqualified people he's picked for his cabinet.
BTW - this will show you how much I don't watch the news anymore - I don't even know what judge he's replacing.
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McCain wasn't desperate and wasn't behind in the polls
In fact, they have been neck and and neck, and McCain has been gaining in the polls while Obama has been slipping. McCain could have taken the easy way and kept the stable course and picked safer, sure. Instead, he picked a maverick leader like himself, who isn't afraid to get in there and make changes even if it goes against their own party. I believe he wanted to say that the Republicans are the party for change, and wanted to make a bold statement. I've seen statements at "other sites" as well where people are absolutely joyous at this pick.
You have offended me
I'm overweight. How could you be so insensitive to weight-challenged individuals. Looking up my attorney's number right now...
Actually, I was offended that one would come over here and ...sm
get on to me for not posting this on the conservative board. First of all, I post over their as minimal as possible out of respect for your board. Second, when you click on politics you can see all of the threads that are posted, so there was no reason for this person to be offended that it was not posted on their board anyway. Just open it up read the info, end of story. I agree with Starcat, it's whinny complainy to even make an issue out of this.
I'm a little offended
See link re: Bush and trade agreements
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/bush-protectionism-will-cost-us-jobs/n20071013100909990009
Basically, it's about how he wants more free trade.
"I know many Americans feel uneasy about new competition and worry that trade will cost jobs," Bush said. "So the federal government is providing substantial funding for trade adjustment assistance that helps Americans make the transition from one job to the next. We are working to improve federal job-training programs. And we are providing strong support for America's community colleges, where people of any age can go to learn new skills for a better, high-paying career."
Okay, I appreciate the help; however, what if I like my supposedly 'un-skilled' job?? What if I were a factory worker that loved the fact that I got to go to work every day, do my job, and come home??? Shouldn't I have that option? What if I'm an older American who has done my job for 40 years and I don't want to do something different?? Shouldn't I have that right, too? Where will it end? If it's okay to ship this job overseas, what comes next? Who draws the line between what kind of job is 'expendable' and what jobs we keep in America? Bad, bad idea to keep letting our jobs go overseas.
And since I know people will mention it, I realize that George Bush is not the only one who feels this way.
please do not be offended
Ok, please do not be offended. I saw on the TV how many millions that hillary is making, between her ad her husband. I woul like them to send me a thousand for my med bills and something to put a roof onmy house. Do you think they would do that?
I do not think so.
well i am offended....
but my panties are not bunched.....
GO MCCAIN!!!
I'm not offended
but I'm not under conviction. My thoughts are that God's perfect will would not be to see either of these men in the White House but His will will not be done because we, his people, have not done his will. This I believe. I believe he gave us free will and lets us reap what we sow. My agonizing if for people like the conversation I've been having above with some obvious youngsters who vote based on either the party affiliation or what other questionable sources tell them. THAT and not God is what has gotten us into this mess and we'll have to get ourselves out. I'm sure you'll agree even though you're voting for McCain and I am not, that the pickins' are pretty slim this election. And I fear what will come after the election regardless of which of them is elected.
Now, why would you be so offended...(sm)
by that? I stated fact and then my opinion. You undoubtedly voted for her...so here's your chance. Here's her website....
http://palinpac.org/index.html
Looks like she wants your money too. This is your chance to put your money where your mouth is.
Oh, and don't even try that *just leave the poor woman alone* thing. She obviously welcomes the attention.
If you are offended by this "hatred" why are you here?
sorry if I offended, but I'm white....
I'm a white person saying this.....but worked in ERs for years.....her Shaniqua statement made me say there's plenty of white trash going to ERs too....is all I meant - sorry if I offended you.
That's okay...not offended, just justified
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Point well taken - I'm sorry I offended you
Oh I just get so so angry when I see absolute trash being spewed. My DH always reminds me not everyone in that group or this group is like that. There are radicals all around. I just really wish people would stick to facts. It is so sickening that politics has come down to this. Where is the decency anymore. Why aren't only issues coming up (as in policies and voting records and stuff) instead we get absolute trash. I see it here and I see it on the mainstream media (TV and magazine articles). None of it makes sense. What happened to honesty and decencies in America and towards all people no matter what their differences are. I still can't understand what jollies people get from posting garbage and then say its the truth because they want it to be (even though its not).
Again, thank you very much for the reminder to not group everyone together. I will remember that.
I'm African American and am VERY offended
that he would even make the comment I don't care how he tried to clean it up, or what context he used it
in.
To say that the crime rate would be reduced if you aborted all African Americans is deplorable and your defense of the comment is sickening. It doesn't matter to me if he came back and says it's morally wrong to do so, well DUHHH yeah it would be, so why is he saying this $h!t to begin with.
Whether or not we are personally offended by his remark,
I think most can agree that it falls under that old catch-all phrase 'poor judgment.' I think much of his first 60 days has fit that category, I'm anticipating many more examples of it in the next four years. This is what happens when the man wanders too far from TelePrompTer and handlers.
Bush was considered a cowboy, Palin a hick, and both would have been publicly eviscerated by the big-3 networks for such a blunder - yet another example of their ineptness. Obama has been characterized as so smooth and sophisticated, and this is considered a simple 'off-the-cuff remark' or a harmless misspeak.
Should we all stop being weenies who are wounded by carelessly offensive remarks? Sure. I just would like an end to the double standard.
Strange.....why are you so offended by that comment?
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I'm a tough cookie and don't get offended easily
Well I guess you could call it a conflict with myself. On one hand I'd like to believe what they say (that they want a better America and to do good things for Americans and that their plans would be good for the country), but Bill's whole presidency really put a bad taste in my mouth and I was so relieved to have him out of the office. Mind you I'm no fan of Bush, but I was terrified to get Gore in there to continue on with more of the same. Anyway....Gore is a whole nother issue I won't go into.
I was against Hillary's campaign from the beginning. I never have liked her. I did like her while he was campaigning and for about the first two years of him being president, then started reading and learning things about her (her position at Rose Law firm, what she did to get where she's at, her literally having to be pulled off of Bill by the secret service, the foul language she used towards people, the way she would talk to the secret service, the mysterious deaths, her trying to socialize the health care system, the way she represented the US when she would go over to another country and was presented with a gift and she would turn to Chelsea and make a comment that she thought nobody heard but was picked up on the cameras as her telling Chelsea it was a piece of s@@t and she was not going to wear it, etc, etc. She also said another time to Chelsea that she was tired of doing stuff and having to talk to people (other leaders wives) her were below her "class". This was caught on camera so it's not made up.
I was turned off by her campaign tactics from the beginning. The lies, her little crying episode when she felt it served it's purpose. The "shame on you Barack" speech she gave all the while she had been putting out lies about him and his plans. It was the kettle calling the otherside black (or whatever that saying is). The real cincher was when she said she was staying in because we have to remember that "Kennedy was assissinated in June, right?" She never once apologized for anything and she blamed it all on the other side. She doesn't and has never taken responsibility for anything she says. She will say something and blame the other side. But it doesn't surprise me because Bill is the same exact way. A lot of what she did I believe was probably at the direction of the campaign advisers (Terry McAuliffe and others), but she is a grown woman and knows better and she could have said no. She inflated herself like when talking about how she is experienced in dangerous situations because she flew into Bosnia when it was under fire and she has answered the "red phone". Those were outright lies and she knew it. Then everyone says, oh she just couldn't remember. Well I was in the Army - believe me you know when your being fired at. Also claiming what Bill accomplished in the white house as if they were her accomplishments. When caught in her lies she laughs it off and says it was a "minor" mistake.
I do think she could unite the party, but she is choosing to divide it. She says in public she wants a party that is united, but yet she's not telling her supporters that they need to back the nominee. She's telling them that if they march to the convention they have another chance that she could be put on the ticket. She should be telling them that she is not the candidate and she is proud of how far she got but she'll just have to try another time. She is the person who could calm them but she is deciding not too.
I think I do have a lot of fear with McCain. I do not see much of a difference between Hillary and McCain. They have voted the same way in the senate. So the thought of those two are quite frightening for me. I just hope Obama picks the right VP choice. I do hope Clintons supporters do not march to the convention like they say they are going to. I need to read up on history but believe the last time that happened it was horrible and the party lost. Which brings me to the next point which is I have heard that that is Hillary's plan. She wants McCain to win so that way in four years she can run again and therefore she will do everything she can to make sure Obama loses.
I read that she is co-chair of the Senate India Caucus and that she and Bill accepted over 360K (she 60K from them and B 300K) and this is a group that is responsible for taking jobs away from Americans and giving them to other countries (India for one) - this means jobs like yours and mine.
B&H are pushing for a one-world government. They have been trying to get Canada, America & Mexico to become one country with one currency (similar to the Euro), and Hillary wants to be the world leader over it all. This is nothing I heard from any right-wing conspiracy group. This is some document I read somewhere but I can't quote it at this time (would take some research).
What I don't like about B&H ... Vince Foster (suicide?) and removal of documents from his office, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski (lies and cover ups), Travelgate, Castle Grande (sham transactions), Cattle futures, Waco, Elian Gonzales, mysterious deaths of James McDougal, Mary Mahoney, Ron Brown, Ed & Kathleen Willey, Jerry Parks, James Bunch, James Wilson, Kathy Ferguson. There at least 35 others but won't list them all. Them accepting illegal funds, destroying the white house before they left and air force one, Hillary saying that she was going to think of the cleaning lady in her office building as a human being. I did get sick of when there was a tragedy and he would be there in front of the camera he had his "sad pouty face" on, but as soon as he thought the camera was off of him he'd go into a laughing state and be quite jovial, then he'd see a camera and back was that sad face again. His lies that he belonged to all these black churches throughout his life. There are other things I can't remember right now.
When Bill was campaigning for president I heard about all the promises he made, lower the budget, cut in taxes, beter health care for Americans, this, that, and other promises. He never once held good on his promises (but in all fairness the same has happened with other politicians). During Clinton presidency jobs were lost to overseas, and about 3 weeks after he became president our military was cut back so much that America was not safe from it's enemies. Mind you at this time I still thought he was okay, but little by little that was being eroded away.
One thing about your statement that got me thinking about my opinions about his policies. I may be in the wrong about some of my feelings and its' been so long that I really need to read up about what he did in there. I just disliked him so much that I usually turned him off. I'd hear things here and there (and now I do have to admit I listened to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News a lot at that time) and I do realize that its not fair to judge them on things I heard from them.
Anyway...you have some very good issues you brought up and to tell the truth I do have to do a bit more research. I think overall is my basic disgust of the lies they have told throughout their careers. The way their "fan base" will not listen to truth and claim that Bill and Hillary are so innocent and never did anything wrong, it was all a conspiracy against them.
I never did have anything against Bill's affairs. It is not my busness whether he sleeps with other people and I don't find that as disgusting as a lot of people do. Nobody knows what was going on in their lives that brought him to that position and if I had a wife like Hillary I'd probably sleep with someone else too, but all I say is tell the truth. It was the lies and coverup that I had a problem with. I didn't care that he couldn't keep his boys behind closed doors, but be a man and admit it.
So to sum it up my biggest problem with them is they lie, they manipulate, when caught they say they never said it and when told its on film he comes out and says I'm not going to play that game instead of something like well if its on tape I must have said that and lets talk about that further at another time. I just really lost respect with them. In all fairness for them though I do have to say they are not the only politicians like that.
One more note is I liked your post. It was long but had some very good points and really is making me think twice about some things. I don't think I've answered all your questions, but you have given me a lot to think about. It hasn't changed my opinion since I first posted but is getting me to think and do some research. Tx.
lots of autism in my family - but I'm not offended
So he made a bad joke, and apologized. Not like he was bashing the Special Olympics all over the map. But if you neeeed a reason to be mad at the guy, I guess you found what you wanted.
Just curious...
Did your body experience a sudden, involuntary CHOKING/GAGGING sensation when he mentioned how much he respects Cindy Sheehan's opinions? Mine did.
Why? Just curious. sm
Alex is not an extremist (libertarian, not Libertarian party). There is a media blackout surrounding 911 - wonder why? Google a video called Loose Change and watch it. The facts and evidence that they lied to us are plainly there. Those of us who want the truth to come out are in the millions, not in the minority. The survivors, witnesses, and family members, etc. have a web site: 911truth.org. Please go and see it for more information.
I'm curious
On AOL today one of their topics is Barack Obama admitting his previous drug use. It links to an article that gives a little quote of what he said to high school students. I was wondering if anyone else knows of any links or knows how he is talking about this issue.
Meaning - the stuff I read essentially made it sound like he was saying ' I was bored and didn't have anything else to do' with only one line saying he did it to 'escape' (my word not his). I think it would be a very BAD idea to tell high school students ' I did it because it was fun' (again, all my words, not his)
I was just curious if he's ever gone into more detail (the article said he does in his book, which I have not read). I would like to know if he is trying to use his experiences to teach people - this article certainly did not make it sound that way.
TIA!! 
I am curious about something you said.
If you are seeking an issues forum and have been turned off by all this childish banter (which I agree, it is), why then would you base a decision as important as who gets your vote on the juvenile emotional trash you see here and denouce?
I'm curious
Do you guys have anything to add other than, "Yeah, well Obama " every time someone says something about McCain that is not positive? The thread is not about Obama, and I'm pretty sure the Contras were far more organized and scarier (and US gov. backed, mind you)than Mr. Weather Underground, not that anything he or his group did is permissible in any sense.
I'm curious about this
I wonder what this "affordable" insurance will cover. I did IC work for awhile and checked around with different policies and there are "affordable" insurance policies out there right now.... What I happened to check into didn't help too much with preventative but it was 100% hospitalization but it was "affordable."
Can you show me anything that shows me what exactly this "affordable" insurance will cover?
Also, I'm curious what he considers "affordable"..... $25 a month? $500 a month? It just seems very vague to me.
I am curious to know
"progressive" candidate is? Is this a good or a bad thing for you? Also, there is an avalanche of "doctored" photos out there. Seeing is not believing during an election year, especially as polarized as this one is becoming.
I think world leaders "endorsing" Obama is a good thing, friendly or not. It doesn't mean anything particularly suspicious or scarey. In a democracy, even communists and theocrats are entitled to their opinions. I think the interest they are taking in this election is a positive sign. People across the globe are counting down the months, weeks, days, hours ad seconds left in the W administration. I know that personally, I am positively ecstatic at the very thought of a Bushless world. Why should world leaders be excluded from participating in such a joyous occasion?
just curious about SNL
i didn't see it, but also have heard absolutely nothing about how Sara Palin did on there -- was she funny? relaxed? any awkward moments?
I was really just curious . . .
not looking for an opening to slam anybody. The only reason I am against the death penalty is the 1 in whatever chance the person is innocent.
I am not for abortion but I think it is going to happen whether it is legal or not. Even the ancient Greeks used herbs for abortion. My dad was a cop in the inner city when abortion was illegal. Back then there were no ambulances and the police answered all medical calls. He saw so many woman dead or dying from self-induced or illegal abortions, he lost count. He didn't believe making it legal increased the number of them performed, but just provided a more accurate way for them to be counted.
As far the child molesters, I'm with you on that one.
curious
First, did Sarah Palin's daughter have her baby? I saw her a few times on TV and she didnt look pregnant. If she did have it, what did she have?
Second, the election is over right? Why are some so bitter. Our guy didnt win. Okay already. Nothing we can do about it now. I fear that pretty soon, we will have way more on our minds than this stuff.
Just Curious
Do you feel our government would be better if it was a theocracy instead?
Just curious...(sm)
Who do you think he should have picked?
Just curious
Have you ever actually talked to one of those people who were layed off in the auto industry? I know several and not one of them knows about this $31 for playing checkers stuff. All say if they had they would have demanded their share. One did take advantage of their retraining program and got a CDL. After finding out truck driving wasn't for him, he moved to Houston and went to work in the oil industry. Reality check: If they can draw $31 an hour for playing checkers, why on earth would they be worried about losing their jobs? Per Judge Judy: If it doesn't make sense it isn't true.
Just out of curiosity....how on earth do you people who do all the research and posting, likely not limited to just this board, EVER find time to work?
I am curious.
If this were to get a fair hearing in a court of law, and the decision were to be against the validity of of the Hawaii birth certificate, exactly what do you think would happen next?
Now I am curious, how much have your
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Just curious........... sm
What is the $252/year tax called?
Our school district is also about to raise our taxes in the form of a bond election in order to construct a new elementary school (we outgrew the current one) and make repairs to the jr high/high school building that was built 35 years ago (and on the cheap at that), so I know what you are talking about. We already pay rather hefty taxes, not to the extent of your district, but when the taxes might be $300 and you don't have it, they may as well be $3,000,000.
just curious...
why does one have to have their staff to go to dinner and theater?
Just curious here.....
David Letterman gets away with saying that ARod impregnated Palin's 14 y/o daughter at a baseball game as a "joke" and yet Don Imus gets fired for saying "nappy headed hoes." Either Imus should never have been fired or Letterman needs to get the boot. But of course Letterman won't because no feminist is going to stand up for any daughter of Sarah Palin's and as far as the left winged liberal media goes......you can make jokes about a 14 y/o having sex with an adult ball player if it is Palin's daughter. Personally, if I were ARod.....I'd be all pi$$y about it as well. Letterman was not funny and, IMO, he owes an apology.....which will never happen but it should.
What a curious posting
I'm not sure why you would want to flaunt the fact that you are an uncaring person who enjoys giving others discomfort.
I'm also not sure why you'd want to post such as an ignorant comment as:
The only outrage liberal Democrats ever feel is mock.
You show little understanding or concern for other people, but worst of all, you seem proud of it.
No, curious as in wanting to know...
and it is obvious what you are "compelled" to do.
Curious about your post
Hi - as I read your post, think I may have missed something... when did the MT stars change to a new owner, is that something recent? I used to come here on MQ board but no more... and not as often. Just wondering what the scoop is, if you are allowed to post it here. I can imagine getting the threatening emails was disturbing... and from a "religious" person at that... and, I agree, if you have a liberal/conservative, and a Christian board, there should also be a nonreligious board too...
Thanks.
I'm curious. Why did you put this post up here?
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curious, who do you consider to be a fake
Just wondering.
I think he looks like Curious George.
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I just find this very curious....
Gay men from Barack Obama's Chicago church have been murdered and their murders go unsolved. These men were murdered in 40 days of each other around November 2007 to December 2007, when Obama was running for president. One was Obama's churches choir master, a man named Donald Young.
That is extremely disturbing that Barack Obama, a man running for president, has had murders in his church of gay males and their killings have gone unsolved.
That is unheard of for one church to have a couple of murders, especially during a time when a parishioner of the church is a person running for the highest office in the land, in over one month. Then the murders were of gay men in a church that was friendly to them because they knew the choir master was openly gay. This is a church Obama's children went to and Barack exchanged marriage vows with Michelle.
The choirmaster was killed execution style in December. This is a big story because imagine if that had happened to another presidential or vice-presidential candidate, that members of their follow church members were murdered in seperate killings.
Hopefully there will be justice and civil rights for these gay men.
Curious about lying
I am curious what you think caused you to lie all the time. How did you feel about it when you were doing it? Did you lie about things you knew people would find out weren't true?
I am just curious, as I have known a few people with that problem, and I could never figure it out. I would often end up not believing them when they were telling the truth and believing lies since everything had a 50/50 chance of being factual. It' was so frustrating and keeps a person from being able to be a real friend to them.
curious -- do you ever have a thought of your own?
Just curious...if McCain had won....
would you have posted this?
"others?" just curious
Do you mean that all of us are "going down?"
Someone in a different area from us told me that "sometime after the first of the year" there would be many more changes re the Cbay thing. It's hard to know if he/she even knows the specifics. Just checking.
Thanks.
I am curious to know how many of this people who...sm
question Obama's citizenship have a passport. If he has an American passport, which I know he does, it is virtually 100% sure that he is legally a natural-born citizen and eligble to be president. The process is quite strict.
I was curious if anyone responded
My computer crashed and I've been offline for a couple days. (Talk about totally lost). There are so many great quotes of our founding fathers. Their dreams, hopes and everything they worked for to build a great country is being destroyed. It's just all very sad. They sacrificed so much and some lost everything and people don't seem to care.
Thank you for responding to my message. Don't ask where I found that quote though cos I lost everything in the crash. Although thinking about that now maybe it was a good thing. HA HA HA.
Just curious - where did you hear that?
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Sure is curious how gas prices have gone up, too.
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I've been curious...
if those that voted for him were sorry they did and would they it differently if they could. Honestly and truly not trying to start anything. I was just wondering. I've cast some votes in the past in local elections that I wish I had back. You're right, there are no lemon laws in that regard.
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