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I wouldn't count on it. He has a penchant for lying.

Posted By: Aunt Louise on 2009-03-16
In Reply to: Obama recalling bonuses from AIG - IMHO

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"a lot of people stayed home because they knew it wouldn't count"
If I knew my vote wouldn't count I wouldn't drag my kids to the polling place w/ me. Why would I?

I think you hit the nail on the head and i'm going place this on Obama's My Space comments. Maybe it will get to him some how.



I lose count everytime I try to count the conservative posts on this page alone.nm
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And yet you just keep lying and lying and lying. Not too bright.

Count me IN!

I lived in River Oaks, (yes, it's possible), then west Houston for many years before moving to Sugar Land.  Married to HPD, so I do have a concern about Sharpstown.  He won't let his mother go there for Catholic Charities shopping, and quit working in that area long before we met. 


I, too, remember when Sharpstown was "the place to move."  A Radiologist friend of mine had a condo there and it went down the tubes literally overnight.  It's a shame that it happened over there. 


If you feel safe over there, God bless ya.  If you didn't, I imagine you'd move. 


But anyone stupid enough to think that someone in a little, bitty town can't get their head blown off by a nutjob is truly in need of an eye exam or something.


I feel safe in Sugar Land, but we have crime here, too.  But there are enough sharpshooters on our extremely quiet subdivision to really help matters.  Another plus is the master-planned community thing, which hopefully is catching on.  But people rob houses, drive drunk, and all that stuff even in River Oaks.


I love living here, and was so proud of our city when Katrina & Rita hit.  Greta certainly fell in love with our city, too while reporting from here.  While crime is everywhere, Houston has always been a very friendly, welcoming city.


...don't count?
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Count me in!
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Count me there with you, Sam. s/m

An excellent post, I think you have set an example for your McCain supporters  here.  You can be sure that I will be right there with you holding Obama's (and the Congress's) feet to the fire


I'm going to back on out of here too.  I think we all have our work cut out for us holding the politician's ....all of them....feet to the fire and there is nothing to be gained by keephing hashing over the old stuff.  I think everyone "gets" it.


Let me count the ways...

1. Behaving as if he had a mandate from day 1.


2. Iraq, Iraq, Iraq and Iraq (this includes everything from the phony  buildup to the quicksand of today).


3. Leaving Afghanistan to go to Iraq.


4. Tax cuts for the billionaires.


5. Restoring integrity to the WH??? Libby, Rove, Cunningham, Goss, DeLay, Cheney, Wilkes, Allen, Watergate redux (we are not only replaying Viet Nam, we are replaying freaking Watergate).


6. Staffing his cabinet with old fogies from his Dad and even Ford's time who see the world quite differently from what it has become in reality.  


7. Gross incompetence in domestic and foreign affairs.


8. Making the United States a laughingstock.


9. Turning us into a third world country with outsourcing, offshoring, hiring illegal immigrants, importing much more than we are exporting, the glorification of cheap Chinese stuff at Wal-Mart and on and on....


10. Medicare fiasco.


11. Education fiasco.


12. The reuniting of church and state.


13. Job losses.


14. Healthcare fiasco.


Count me out of the collective *we*. sm
I am not living in crap. 
Don't count Obama out yet... s/m

 



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Obama, Huckabee on top in Iowa poll


By Scott Helman, Political Reporter December 2, 07 11:47 AM


There are polls, and then there are polls. Here's one that matters.


A new Des Moines Register survey of likely Democratic caucus-goers gives Barack Obama a narrow edge over rival Hillary Clinton, with John Edwards holding steady just below them. Obama is at 28 percent, compared with Clinton at 25 percent and Edwards at 23 percent. Obama's lead over Clinton is within the margin of error.


On the Republican side, Mike Huckabee, who has skyrocketed in recent Iowa polls, has overtaken Mitt Romney and now leads 29 percent to 24 percent. Rudy Giuliani is in third at 13 percent. Both parties' races in Iowa, which holds caucuses in a month, remain fluid, the poll suggests. And in Iowa time, a month is an eternity. Still, both current front-runners can find good omens in the results.


Obama leads Clinton among women 31 percent to 26 percent, the Register reports, a stark change from October, when 34 percent of women caucus-goers said they would vote for Clinton, and 21 percent preferred Obama. Women account for about 60 percent of likely caucus-goers, the poll indicates.


Huckabee leads Romney, 38 to 22 percent, among those who call themselves born-again Christians, who make up half of likely caucus-goers. Romney drew more support than Huckabee from that group in October.


Don't count your chickens...
I wouldn't be so sure about an Obama victory just yet. I seem to recall that not just four months ago, everyone thought the nominee was going to be Hillary and you see how that one turned out!
Look...Obama has 300...count them...
300 foreign policy advisors. If he had gone on a network that was not in the democratic pocket and had given an interview when he was 2 weeks into the process, he would not have done any better. He chose Joe Biden because of his LACK of foreign policy experience. You really think we didn't notice that?
If McCain (God forbid) keeled over in week 2 of his presidency and she became president, she would surround herself with foreign policy experts just like Obama would...and we get him day 1. He is no better prepared to handle a national emergency right now than she would be. That is fact, no matter how you dress it up.

She has never said she did not keep the money. What she says on the campaign trail is that she killed the bridge to nowhere. And she did.

I don't know anything about what you are saying about O'Reilly, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Obama was the consummate politician, hedged energy questions, hedged socialism questions, but one good thing came out of it...he did admit the surge had succeeded beyond anyone's wildest dreams, and that is SURE not what HE has been saying on the campaign trail. You can't have it both ways.

Obama has proven himself to be thoughtful, knowledgable, and decent. That could describe a lot of people in this country. Does not mean they are ready to be President. You can't have it both ways.

Of course she was heavily coached. She is trying to get up to speed in 2 weeks; your guy has had 18 months. lol. And for 2 weeks, I would say she is doing a spectacular job...and without 300 advisors.


Does an old Hippie count?
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Don't count your chickens...

...until they're hatched.


The timing of this whole Israeli mess is very interesting.  Don't count out martial law just yet, in case there's a "terror attack" on the USA or some other scheme going on in Washington. 


You mean 14 days....you still can't count

At least we can count. Obama cant.
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Recount!!....I count 28 so far.
Barrasso (4 earmarks, $2.7 million)
Bayh (4 earmarks, $1.2 million)
Bennett (23 earmarks, $18 million)
Brownback (21 earmaks, $12 million)
Bunning (5 earmarks, $735,000)
Burr (3 earmarks, $1.3 million)
Chambliss (7 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Collins (1 earmark, $380,000)
Corker (1 earmark, $760,000)
Cornyn (5 earmarks, $2.5 million)
Crapo (1 earmark, $100,000)
Enzi (5 earmarks, $1.7 million)
Graham (14 earmarks, $9.5 million)
Grassley (8 earmarks, $350,000)
Gregg (19 earmarks, $10 million)
Hatch (7 earmarks, $700,000)
Hutchison (35 earmarks, $9.9 million)
Inhofe (34 earmarks, $53 million)
Isakson (2 earmarks, $1.4 million)
Kyl (3 earmarks, $5 million)
Lugar (10 earmarks, $3.3 million)
Martinez (8 earmarks, $18.8 million)
McConnell (36 earmarks, $51 million)
Roberts (11 earmarks, $2.2 million)
Sessions (12 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Thune (6 earmarks, $4.3 million)
Vitter (16 earmarks, $4 million)
Voinovich (6 earmarks, $13.5 million)
Let me count the ways

1.  Really poor choice of Republican presidential candidate (republican lite).


2.  George Soros's backing.


3.  Mainstream media gave him a complete pass as far as any close scrutiny.  Still are, although the honeymoon may be ending.


4.  He's gonna fill my gas tank and pay my mortgage.


5.  Political correctness.


6.  The teleprompter.


7.  Etc.


 


 


Count me as one who WOULD like to see them succeed (sm)
which, of course, would require that the bullies of this world (with the U.S. as #1) stop making it economically impossible with their embargoes, etc.
Yeah. Let's count them: First, we have the one who wrote for everyone to see

"I spent 19 years in the military."


It's not until someone thanked her for her service and asked what branch she was in that we found out that she was in a military FAMILY.  Was that a lie?  OF COURSE NOT AND DON'T ANYONE DARE SAY SHE LIED.


Another poster (maybe the same as the above) really displayed the extent of her intelligence when she responded to a poster by referring to their "vaucity." When asked what that meant, she responded by saying look it up.  When a poster responded that she tried BUT IT ISN'T IN THE DICTIONARY, she replied that it's a "combination of 2 words" that can be found on blogs all over the net.  (When asked WHICH 2 words, she couldn/didn't respond.)


Turns out, it was a typo and was supposed to read "vacuity."  The irony was that she was trying to tell the original poster that they were stupid, but who REALLY looked stupid during all this????  Can she say it's a typo?  NO.  And as far as a "blog" term that doesn't exist, SHE DID NOT LIE, SO DON'T CALL HER A LIAR.


Best part is if a little HONESTY could be employed by these people, there wouldn't be an argument.  It's absolutely honorable to be a member of a military family, and they, too make sacrifices and should be thanked for that.  But it is NOT the same as saying "I spent 19 years in the military."  I know people who actually DID spend 20 years in the military and retired at a very young age. Still, it is very honorable to be a member of a military family.  At least in my eyes it is.  Guess it wasn't in hers or she would have been honest about her role.


Also, instead of saying "I made a typo, and I meant to write vaucity," again, the invention of "facts" about a combination of two nonexitent words.


Another member of their gang... well, just go visit the Conservative board for yourself and read the entire thread about the activist judges/groups who are responsible for not letting the poster place a nativity scene in her own yard.  She was questioned by someone, and it's not until the fourth post that she begins by saying, "I'll be up front with you."  HOW NICE.  It's quite comical.  If you haven't read it, you should.  Turns out it had nothing to do with "activist judges/groups" at all.  BUT SHE DID NOT LIE!!!!!


When I come to these boards, I start out with the belief that everyone has credibility.  It's only after they prove to me THEMSELVES that they don't, by their very OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS that they can't be believed, that I begin to form negative opinions.


What you wrote is a perfect example of someone whose credibility is definitely ... uh.... challenged. (trying to be kind)


And yes, LOL, I'd bet a psychiatrist could make a mint from some of these people.


And riled?  Yeah, used to a little bit, but now I just find them more comical than anything.  But I'll grow out of it like I did with the OTHER Curly, Larry and Moe.


Did you count the unnamed trolls?
Since you're into counting....that makes up the majority of the trolling that goes on on the conservative board.
That doesn't count, Democrat.

It never counts when they do it.


And the Conservative hypocrisy of the day:


They themselves posted this about Liberals: *If they dont' say it here, under a pseudonym, they say it THERE and then gather like little old ladies to chew the fat.*


Just take a look at the posts Nan... or should I say Brunson.. has posted over there today at the top of the board.


Alright then...count all the glaciers why don't cha...nm
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OK. so education doesn't count and
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Life experience can count as much or more.
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Don't count your chickens before they are hatched
Truth of the matter is we don't know who will win. The polls mean didly. I've said it before and I'll say it again - They don't mean anything. Even Rasmussen was interviewed and he said you cannot tell by polls who is ahead and a lot of it has to do with the media and their love affair with Obama and how they are manipulating what they are feeding you. The real poll will be on 11/4 after the election is held or the next day.

Oh, and your comments can go both ways -

What's going to happen to the rabid democrats when McCain wins?

Will their anger fade away or are we going to see riots in the streets because a black man didn't win with Farrakan leading the way?

Will they accept a McCain presidency, or are they going to remaind divided like they always have while pointing the finger that the other side won't work with them.

What's going to happen when they find out that their "lord" Obama was actually born in Kenya and there is a birth certificate to prove it, which makes him disqualified to run as president. Will his good friend (the leader of Kenya) be able to keep this silenced for long. He already threw one person in jail for getting too close - will he be able to jail everyone who wants to know the truth.

Will Franks, Dodd & others who benefitted from FMFM and threw the economy into a near depression be men and own up to their mistakes or will they sit on their hands and continue to blame the republicans.

I don't have to ask if they will undermine the progress to make themselves look better. They have already been doing that and they will continue on.

Domestic terrorists you ask? We don't have to look any further than Obama's close friends William Ayers, his good freinds in Pakistan whom he spent time over there with, and his friends from the Muslim schools he attended while growing up as a Muslim.

If I had known back then what I know now about Obama, I would have voted for Hillary. At least we know about her. It's what Obama is hiding about himself that HAS to make you wonder.

The questions still remains...
Why do so many people not care if we have a president who has ties/friends to known terrorists?
Why do so many people not care that their taxes will go up and they'll be left with less money to live on.
Why do so many people just blatantly ignore the facts about Obama, which is NOT, I repeat NOT a good direction for our country to go.
Why do so many people not care if they elect this guy our country will be turned to a socialist country. Are there really that many of you that don't have a lot so you believe that the people who have worked so hard all of their lives should just give you part of what they have worked for?
Why do so many people not care what happens to our country?
Why do so many people not care that our country will not be safe anymore?
Why do so many people not even care about 9/11 and everything we have done to keep our country safe since then. Lets just throw it all away and vote in this radical muslim. Why? Because it's PC?
Why do so many people believe him when he says he won't raise your taxes, when in fact his voting records shows that he voted to raise taxes over 50 times in the past, but now that he's running for President and telling you that he won't raise your taxes you believe him? Why?

There are too many why's and such an unsettling feeling. Sure McCain may not be my first choice, but between the two he is the better choice.

The election isn't over, and its with views like yours that I hope martial law is implimented and McCain is placed in the position. If that happens it will serve you right!
I agree and count only your #1....the rest...sm
....to me, are the many ways that Obama has tried to paint himself, many only just recently as he has run for office of the pres....don't trust a single word out of his mouth.

He will screw us all over, just to get elected. Just watch.


That's awful!!! If ANYONE's votes should count is is theirs!!! sm

The government should have made absolutely sure our soldiers' votes were here on time and if not, dammit, we should postpone the election until they do.  They are leaving their families and risking their lives to protect this country and they don't even get a vote on who runs it?? That has me fuming mad!!!!!!!


Yeah, they'll only count the ones for O
plus a couple for McCain to appear as though they are fair.

Another reason that IF O wins it will be a stolen election.
It absolutely should not count -- if she's gonna

she should at least have to live through the havoc he's gonna create like the rest of us. 


I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election.  It shouldn't count.  Where's the accountability?


you may be correct but why would it not count as any other vote?
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Hey JTBB - knew I could count on you LOL
As I posted I knew exactly who would be trying to cut down the articles. Glad to see you didn't let me down. HA HA HA. At least though there will be people with open minds who will read it.

The rest of you I think need to give all yourselved a big group hug and high five. It must feel good to you all to cut down and insult people that don't think the way you do.

But wait...you can always just stay tuned to MSNBC for all your tabloid shows you like to consider "real" news. It looks like Matthews and Olberman have taken over almost every show there while they spew their hateful viewpoints.
Not a lot of money? Count yourself blessed.
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What Boxer didn't count on was
Petty Boxer.
Insecure Boxer.
Self-absorbed Boxer.
Infantile Boxer.
Lame Boxer.
Loser Boxer.

She's "worked pretty hard" to earn all those titles too, over the years.
Tabloid "news" doesn't count.

What the pubs do doesn't count donchaknow? nm

I post late at night, and count the NEXT day as #1)

Or maybe she's LYING! sm
That's what the Dems always say when someone makes a mistake.  So she MUST be LYING!
Well of course I am lying! SM
You have accused everyone on the conservative board of being a liar, at least 50 times. The posts are gone and you know it.  They were removed and you said she was old and sick and would die soon and burn in hell.  I remember it well.  You should be so proud of that.  And you call us nasty.  Sorry, I can't match that one.  And wouldn't want to. You have your board back.  Discuss the important issues of the day, as you NEVER EVER DO on this board.  Buh bye!
K, if you say so but you might be lying. ;) nm

Sorry, I think you are lying. nm

I did not say anyone was lying...
the American Indians that is. I don't know how one could get an education claiming to be an American Indian when he is not. One only has to have 1/16 blood to qualify but it has to be proved. You can't just walk in there and say I'm and Indian, give me some money or put an X in the little box Other. I am only defending his accuracy in the 2 books I have read and I was trying to inform on the complexities of ***being an Indian*** in the tribal eyes, in the eyes of the state, in the eyes of grants, funding, etc.
Don't know if she was lying or not. SM
But I have lots of relatives on the West Coast from Oregon on down through Washington and California.  We talk about gas prices all the time so it just didn't sound right to me.  I like to keep things real.
Yeah, but they all count, no matter how petty the reason....
and that goes for both sides...sigh.
Opinions count. Nothing wrong in researching them as long as
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So voter fraud in ང doesn't count?
Voter fraud of this organization is only the tip of the problem. This is a corrupt organization in so many other ways, it should be very troubling to everyone but because so many of you who want Obama in office regardless of the consequences don't even want to hear the involvements he is in, is the very reason we are on a path of ignorance.

This organization is involved in so much garbage it should be shut down altogether and probably will after the election but as long as Obama is still in the running, no democrat wants to actually go after them for obvious reasons. But even the democrats will go after them when the election is over. Many of them despise this group.
You must skip all the "rabid" democrat discussion, and obviously don't count...sm
However, rather unfair to use the term "rabid" for any of us, don't you think?



I'd love to hear from the gal that was keeping score yesterday, to see who really rants and rails the most.

Seems to me the dems on this board far out rant the reps, and yet I don't see you calling the dems rabid.



rabid
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Main Entry:
ra·bid Listen to the pronunciation of rabid
Pronunciation:
ˈra-bəd also ˈrā-
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin rabidus mad, from rabere
Date:
1594

1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion

2: affected with rabies
Iran's supreme leader okay with vote count...(sm)

From his speech today:  He also said if the demonstrations didn't stop there might be chaos and bloodshed, and that rival candidates calling for protests would be blamed.  See link for full details.



This is going to get really, really bad.


lying in office
It was a personal matter between he and his wife and Monica.  He only lied when the govt tried to pry into his private life.  It had nothing to do with national security, and since he was impeached for lying, Im just waiting for Bush to get impeached or Rove to be fired for lying about giving out the name of Valerie Plame to reporters to out her.  If there is gonna be a standard about lying while in office, it should work for this administration too.  One saving grace on that, the prosecutor, Fitzgerald, seems like a tough guy who does not take sides but finds out the truth.
Nobody justifies lying like the Right.
And you know it's true. That is one major difference between the right and left. The right acts like schoolyard children saying nyah nyah, can't prove it can't prove it! My mom's the principal! So you just shut up!

Meanwhile on the left, frowns all around for whoever is caught being a sneak and a liar, and nobody defends the liar - we admit lying is a bad thing and nobody should do it, and if they lie they should be punished. Progressives will turn against any politician who shames him/herself by lying - they may feel bad for the person and even still like the person, but hey, if you did wrong, you should come clean and accept your reprisals, or you don't represent us anymore.

The Wrong Right on the other hand would DIE to a member before admitting wrongdoing,admitting lies, or even admitting they or their leaders COULD be wrong. It's not a wrong/right issue with them - nothing is, and that's why nobody believes their outrage over Clinton was moral. It was simply vindictive and hateful toward the man, not any reasonable objection to any true harm that he caused. Now your spokespeople are advocating the assassination of (democratically elected!) foreign leaders. Outrage anyone? People of truly moral character certainly are outraged. Still waiting to hear a peep from the Wrong Right.


NO THANKS. Just more lying SUITS.
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