It didn't happen on Clinton's watch
Posted By: O in Obama on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: which was planned under CLINTON - Emily Ayn
I know, the truth can be so annoying sometimes, can't it?
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Over a $10 trillion dollar deficit today? That didn't happen on O's watch.
Yes, they need to trim down a lot of the programs crammed in the current stimulus package. But I don't approve of McCain's, either. Giving the top 10% a tax break benefits NO ONE but the top 10%. They drink imported wines, buy designer clothes and travel to foreign destinations - how does that benefit the bulk of Americans? It takes $30,000 to $40,000 in gas just to fill up their yachts - who does that benefit? Not us. Instead of "screw the poor!" - how about "screw the rich!"
But, it did not happen with Clinton and that is the bottom line
Why, oh why do the people continue to uphold a president who has wound up at the bottom of the barrel as far as what kind of presidency he had. Very good riddance. Yes, we can.
The attacks didn't happen here
they happened in London, England and you don't see people London whining and acting like the world is coming to the end. They got up and got on those darned buses and trains. These terrorists made very little headway at all yesterday.
You all don't get the point do you? You really don't. No matter where we are in the world you're going to find fault with it as long as it is done under conservative leadership.
I think I understood every word you said loud and clear. 
I suppose this didn't happen
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/05182006/news/103329.htm
5-19-2006
Phone jam gets Tobin jail time
By Anne Saunders
Associated Press
CONCORD - Former Republican National Committee official James Tobin was sentenced to 10 months in prison Wednesday for his role in an Election Day phone-jamming plot against New Hampshire Democrats.
Tobin, of Bangor, Maine, was found guilty in December on two felony telephone harassment charges. He also was fined $10,000, followed by two years probation. Prosecutors had asked for a two-year prison sentence.
Tobin, 45, was convicted of helping a top state GOP official find someone to jam Democratic get-out-the-vote lines on Election Day 2002. Republican John Sununu defeated then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen for the U.S. Senate that day in what had been considered a cliffhanger.
Tobin was a regional official of the RNC and of the GOP committee focused on winning U.S. Senate races. He later became New England chairman of President Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign, but stepped down when Democrats accused him of playing a role in the jamming.
U.S. District Judge Steven McAuliffe said Wednesday he was impressed by character witnesses who testified on Tobin’s behalf, but wished Tobin had a better sense of how serious this was.
Tobin apologized to the court, the community and his family, saying he wished he hadn’t gotten involved or acted to stop it.
I have tried to live my life honestly and with integrity, he said.
Bail pending his appeal was denied; Tobin is scheduled to report to prison on June 23.
There is no source. It didn't happen except
It's so convenient that it supposedly actually happened but is not getting any coverage on the news. I am so sure. In this current political environment, the media is all over each and every single such incident and is playing favorites no no candidate. Problem Nanaw is having is that McC happened to be the one this past week to be making all the "bad news". Obama's audiences do not behave that way. The only way that could be true is if the McC campaign planted someone there for that express purpose. They are so desperate, it would not surprise me in the least.
Not saying slavery didn't happen....
Just saying since Obama AIN'T racist and all, don't you think it's about time you got over it? My ancestors were used as slaves as well and I ain't standing around expecting handouts, freebies, "entitlement" and throwing a pity party for myself every day. That's all Obama wants. He's no more trying to help the poor than a stray dog in a ditch.
He's trying to help himself.
No need to deny something that didn't happen.
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It sure didn't happen when W was relected, did it?
so let's place this country in the hands of the people (less govt my a$$) who make such huge mistakes? Okay, yeah, right......more lies.
Sorry, I didn't watch the video...sm
I was referring to the $700+ billion economic stimulus that was pushed through quickly in February. Here is an article regarding what I was talking about. I did a "dogpile" search for "$250 stimulus retired", and came across this. Notice it makes reference to the economic stimulus packing "enacted in February" in the first paragraph. In the third paragraph it says it is "part of the $787 billion package...enacted in February..."
WASHINGTON -- More than 50 million retirees can expect to receive $250 payments from the government in the next few weeks as their share of the economic stimulus package enacted in February.
Economists say the payments will be a timely boost just as the recession is showing signs of easing a little.
The payments are part of the $787 billion package of spending and tax cuts enacted in February to help boost the economy. They will go to people who receive Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, railroad retirement or veteran's disability benefits.
Mary Glenn-Croft, deputy commissioner of the Social Security Administration, told a congressional panel Tuesday that the payments are intended to inject more than $13 billion into the economy while helping beneficiaries of the four programs meet everyday living expenses.
The payments are meant for people who did not qualify for the new "Making Work Pay" tax credit that provides up to $400 to individuals and $800 to couples. Taxpayers who would otherwise qualify for both will have the $250 payments deducted from their tax credits.
The tax credits started flowing to most workers in weekly paychecks this month. The $250 payments will be delivered in May, Glenn-Croft said.
The effect on the economy should be known in the next few months, said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com.
"We are at the moment of truth for the tax cuts and probably the stimulus more broadly," Zandi said. "If we don't see an improvement in retailing and if the job cutting doesn't abate in response this summer and fall ... it either hasn't worked or it wasn't enough."
The U.S. economy has shed more than 5 million jobs since the recession began, and unemployment remains high in most of the country, but there are signs that investors, shoppers and home buyers are less jittery.
Zandi said the economy is still in decline. But, he added, "The rate of decline is slowing; the free fall is over."
The goal of the stimulus package is to get people to spend money at a time when most are reducing spending and saving more. It makes sense to be frugal when the economy is in such bad shape, but it hurts the economy when everyone does it.
The extra Social Security payments should boost spending because retirees on fixed incomes are more likely to spend them than workers earning more money, said Diane Swonk, chief economist at Mesirow Financial.
"The people who live closer to paycheck-to-paycheck are more likely to spend it," Swonk said.
The payments are also expected to provide relief to many struggling seniors. Glenn-Croft said the bad economy -- coupled with aging baby boomers nearing retirement age -- has more Americans applying for Social Security and disability benefits.
The agency expects retirement claims to increase by 300,000, or 9 percent, this year, Glenn-Croft said. The agency expects disability claims to increase by 30,000, or 12 percent, she said.
Swonk said some aging baby boomers are being forced into early retirement through layoffs and they are using Social Security benefits as an "alternative form of unemployment insurance."
"You're 62, you're eligible, you just lost your job," Swonk said. "It's better to get something than nothing."
You didn't watch Obama's speeches before the
He said "I will close Gitmo". All the O lovers were on here posting how wonderful that was; how glad they were to hear it. And now, you act as if you know nothihng about that? Obama wouldn't do such a thing? All he had to do was say, no, things will go forward, a trial will be had NOW, and there will be no freeze.
He didn't do that! And so it has started..
Where's the lie? You didn't watch his world tour
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I didn't watch that part. I figured it would be ridiculous. What's the scoop?
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OK then why didn't Clinton send Chelsea
to Mogadishu or Bosnia? See what nonsense you're spouting. You and Cindy Sheehan. Maybe Cindy will take up a real cause and move a few hundred miles East and do something worthwhile and help the hurricane victims, but I doubt it.
Sheesh....Clinton didn't go to funerals either....
and yes, soldiers died on his watch too (Somalia, Bosnia,etc). I did not see CNN covering flag-draped coffins then. Yes, more have died in Iraq; however, a soldier killed is a soldier killed. Clinton did not go to the funeral of that US serviceman who was killed and then his body dragged behind a Jeep in Somalia. Was that because Clinton felt guilty? Come on!! It is impossible for a President (ANY President) to show up at a private funeral without causing a media circus, and frankly, I would not want Bush there because along with him would come Cindy Sheehan, the pink ladies, the nutso religious group, the ones who hold up signs saying your son died for nothing, yada yada. Maybe THAT is why Bush does not go to funerals. Ya think???
As to stopping the media...what planet to you live on? As if Bush could stop the liberal media from showing anything they want...ala CNN and their terrorist-made sniper video as the terrorists stalked our soldiers. Good grief, new guy!!! The liberal media doesn't give a rat's patootie about who they hurt as they strive to take Bush down....ya think???
And frankly, new guy, do you think the public need to see a flag-draped coffin to know about the death toll in Iraq? I am surprised CNN has not installed a ticker to count them. Get a grip, get a clue, buy a vowel. You and other Bush haters like you just need to admit it. You hate the man, anything connected with the man, to the point that you criticize him for doing a wonderful thing by showing up at Virginia Tech. I think that shows a remarkable lack of human compassion on your part. Yeah...I THINK.
Why didn't Clinton kill bin Laden when he had the chance?
If it Clinton screwed something up - why didn't Bush fix it? He had 8 years!
As much as you want to blame Bill Clinton......don't forget who held the reins for the last 8 years......who let them run amuck? Why was nothing done?
Check out the mortgage failures.
Tell me which failed more, prime or subprime
Tell me what is the rate of failures under the CRA or even Bush's ADDI (which i attack alll the time)
Once again, REALITY AND THE DATA doesn't fit ya'lls claims.
Basically what happened was.. we reformed bankruptcy laws.. so that people who ran into dire straights could not restructure.
We packaged the loans into commodity derivatives. These are sorta mirror bets on the loans. Sorta..as the same loan will be sold many times in many derivative packages.. that's why the housing derivatives are worth more than all the real estate in the US. Derivatives are actually not that bad.. when a market is stable and only has to deal with natural forces. The housing market was bubbled.. partially due to low interest rates that encouraged everyone to buy, even the rich, and partially due to the CRA and the ADDI.. which did add customers to the market (helping form the bubble was the extent the CRA and the ADDI had in this mess)
All it took was a few failures to pop the bubble..and make real estate prices drop,. and mind you, it was mainly prime loans (READ not loans given to poor people and not loans under the CRA) that failed. The derivative market.,.which like I said, is really mirrors of the same loans.. cause the defaults to explode with ten times the ferocity, because one loan could effect the price of dozens of derivatives.
Really the poor and even irresponsible people .. simply did not have the economic ability to cause this mess. Pool all their money together and waste it on hookers.. it would have zero effect without help from the rich elites and their magnifying packaged derivatives.
THE CRA and ADDI both had stricter requirements than loans you got from normal banks.. both required income data.. where many prime loans did not.. they also greatly limited you on how much home you could purchase..whereas private banks did not care if you tried to buy something you could not afford.
Don't believe me?.. Look in the phone book.. call your own housing authority - you can get a loan for 106% the purchase price of a home even today.. if you're poor enough.
Ask to hear the red tape and hoops you must go through.. Heck, it is probably easier to just get a real job and earn real money than go through the FHA.
Isn't it time to watch Hannity or bowl or some other watch Nascar?
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I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same was .... just sayin
I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same way .... just sayin
Probably won't ever happen though.
But,what will probably happen..
is that she will get elected anyway, and to many's surprise be one of the most effective president's yet. What I like about her is that she is energetic, is a workaholic, very very smart, has political clout, and even since her high school and college days has always tried looking out for the underprivileged. Obama has too always looked out for the underprivileged.
That could happen
On another topic, Alan Colmes is not a right-winger, and he said for all the world to hear that Sarah Palin caused her infant to have Down Syndrome due to poor prenatal care. The only "prenatal" care that would have stopped the Down Syndrome is to ether not get pregnant or have an abortion.
This is an example of nothing but ignorance and it is fostered by Alan and repeated by the blogs.
I used to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was a nice guy that has passion for his political views, but I'll have to hear an apology from him for that statement before I'll again think of him as anything other than a moonbat.
That tends to happen when there's... sm
Nothing a person CAN say.
My question is, why do you and your buddies (sam, Chele, etc.) feel the need to post something nearly EVERY SINGLE TIME a post shows up (like this one you just responded to, for example) that you don't agree with?
Your response was basically, well, no response. Sort of a "No comment." Why do you feel the need to do that? What is the point? Are you that insecure in your views that you have to try to do something, anything to negate every opposing opinion? Because it sure seems that way to me.
You guys are still constantly crying about being picked on by all the "liberals" (aka anyone who doesn't agree with you) on this board. How funny, because - news flash - you've chased most of them away! LOL
This board has become like watching the Jerry Springer show. I feel like I lose IQ points just scanning over it. Aside from the occasional interesting link, there is very little of value here anymore.
And that is exactly what can happen
if enough American people wake up and stop using their head just for a hat rack!!! Here's to the revolution I believe is coming.
It won't happen........
Do you see the FBI jumping in to investigate? What are they waiting on? We have an election in a few days? Do you see any democrats calling for an FBI investigation into any of this? No!!! Why?
I'm not sure if it would ever happen
People do not want to see the wrong in their candidate. I think a lot of people are so angry they want to blame the other side whether it is their fault or not. There is a lot to be angry about. We as Americans have the right to be asking questions. Blame needs to be accepted on both sides. What I see in Washington right now is if there are good issues they are voted against solely because someone from the other party came up with the idea. Both sides are at fault and I believe both dems and republicans are both to blame. But until we can stand back and say "I was wrong" nothing will get accomplished. I say fire every single person in congress no matter what side they are on and lets start over.
If it were to happen...
...she very well may not have the opportunity to tell you anything. 
Oh it will happen all right
Unfortunately the majority have been blissfully ignorant too long and the die has already been cast. Obama will just be the "fall" guy. He's already sold out to the Clintons, should have seen that coming. Wouldn't have made any difference if McCain was elected either, you can bet he's on the Bush side of the wagon which is on the same wagon as the Clintons IMHO. I'm still glad I voted for Obama rather than McCain, at least he offered a tiny hope for change in our direction. AND forget all those freebies......if we're lucky we'll have soup kitchens as they did in the Great Depression. Only thing is I don't believe this "great depression" will ever be over...at least not in the lifetime of anyone discussing this issue.
It would never happen to me.
be planted by a political party at an opponent's campaign rally and claim to be somebody I'm not for the sake of posing scripted rhetorical questions. People who put themselves out there like that during a heated campaign should expect to become hounded by the media and to lose their privacy....especially if they have something to hide. Besides that, in W's world of warrantless wiretapping and the Patriot Act's system of "preventative justice," nothing surprises me anymore.
It can't happen soon enough for me!
I don't ever want to see that ridiculous smirk on his face again!
There's no way that would happen
unless they outlawed the two parties which, we all know, will never happen. People will always vote for one or the other and not give independents a chance. Heck, one year a long time ago, I even voted for the Libertarian (sp) party cause I didn't like who was running on the dem or pub ticket and there was no indpendent candidate.
I agree, there should not be any "party" (whoever thought of that terminology must have had a great sense of humor). We are not getting anywhere with the 2 parties we have now. Bush had his goofball cabinet and O has his. Some of O's are worse IMHO. They open their mouths and stocks fall. The press secretary doesn't know how to answer a straight question. He looks very uncomfortable when asked a question he doesn't know how to answer. It doesn't help matters.
Why they really don't include the forerunner of every party to debate in public forums isn't fair or right. The "minor" parties don't really get their message out because of financing and a debate would be great for them, but it's always dems and pubs.
I think if things don't turn around in the next 4 years, an independent might have a better chance.
As much as I would like to see this happen...
I don't think anything can be done. These were contractual obligations, bonuses built into a contract, not based on performance. Lawsuits that could be brought on by this would only financially endanger the company further, cost the taxpayers more in legal fees, and probably result in the bonuses being paid out anyway.
Hopefully there will be a legal loophole that will make it possible to keep those bonuses from being paid, but I'm not optimistic on this one - definitely a story to keep watch on.
it does happen! My son is a FF for sm
9 years and has told me stories where they have done this. They also lower the physical standards for women. I guess that means if you have a fire you don't want a woman FF?? Its not fair. They should all have to pass the same test.
That could actually happen
if he is unable to give away enough stuff and make enough concessions. Or, if like the whole Palestinian conflict, the stated disagreement (we want our own homeland) is not the actualy purpose of the conflict (we all really want to wipe Israel off the map.)
It's like the schoolyard bully. He wants your money, so you give it to him. Now he wants your lunch, so you give him that. Then he likes your jacket, so that becomes his as well. Pretty soon you've run out of stuff to buy him off with and it dawns on you.....he was only looking for a way to puff himself up and reason to pound on you. The other stuff he gained was just icing on the cake.
Sure but that won't happen...........don't ya know
You obviously don't know or have never bothered to read or understand economics or anything else, let alone SOCIALISM or communism for that matter or you wouldn't be go glib about the future of your government. I realize that you no doubt think that bigger government equates to MORE jobs; it does not. It equates to more government and MORE jobs and more waste of your money............. that's not jobs, that's a government controlled country.
Sorry you just don't know the difference and seemingly just do not care that private industries are going to the crapper thanks to Obama. Do you really not understand capitalism? Obviously not! Or you would be outraged over what you are seeing.
You'll be singing a difference tune when the "cap and trade" tax hits YOU to the tune of $3,000 per household and no, that ain't for the rich hon, that's for YOU!!!!
Maybe you'll wake up and see the light then! You got an extra $3,000 you wanna spend to keep your lights on JUST because your president wants socialism?
Could never happen. . . . . . she would
have to have a vision for the future in order to be president! JTBB cannot get out of the past, she only dwells on her hate for GWB! There is much more involved than revenge and that is what she thrives on, as evidenced by her every post.
I know it means nothing to her, but for those who know, thank God, vengence is not hers.
I wonder what would happen.......... sm
if US citizens renounced their citizenship and jumped on the bandwagon for all the freebies that noncitizens are "entitled" to?
Not that I would want to do anything like this, but someone somewhere is probably going to come up with this idea. Can you imagine what that would do to our country?
I happen to believe..........sm
that EVERYTHING written in the Bible is true, so it would be really hard to give just one example.
Because I happen to know that the
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What will happen......
If this thing passes, what will happen is YOU and I will become completely OWNED by the govt....
Those that still think Obama is just wonderful will SOON realize, when they can't pay their electricity or buy groceries, that they made a terrible terrible terrible decision in voting for him...
If everyone would get off their party line butts and start caring about this country, they would realize this is a HUGE mistake. Problem is,triggger happy, they are so complacent in their behavior, they really don't know what goes on in their govt and don't care.
I will say it again...Obama got in there for 2 reasons...
there were those that voted for him JUST because he is a black man and there were those that voted out of fear.
The ones that voted out of fear are quickly realizing the mistake they made and are sick about it!!!
Those that voted JUST because he is black really don't give a rat's butt. Govt welfare is going to be out of control like you wouldn't believe and all they see are dollar sign and more freebies!! They are THAT ignorant!!!I live in a town full of that thought process.... all they see is a black man and that's exactly what Obama was betting on. OLf course, if you tell them his wonderful wife, Michelle, three indigent black patients out the front door of the Chicago hospital she worked for making $317,000 A YEAR, they shrug their shoulders. When you tell them she was quietly dismissed of her job and the job was done away with after discovery of her illegal doings, they stand like deer in the headlights. They aren't about to call a spade a spade.... so to speak!
Those that actually work for a living are sickened by what he is doing...because they know what it is to make a living only to see their taxes paying for wrought iron fences around govt projects, our ERs stormed with lazy mothers and their babies every Friday night because they are TOO lazy to go to the free clinics during the week, and their grocery buggies (2 and 3 buggies) loaded down with groceries, while the working class are struggling just to buy groceries!!
For those that don't live around communities that have a large population of moochers, they will NEVER get the picture!!
He knows the more ignorant everyone stays, the better for him and his criminal administration! It's a simple as that...
Now those that don't like what I have to say can flame all you want. I really DON'T care. I see it everyday and I am sick to death of lazy fat butted moochers who just keep reproducing with 10 different fathers (who by the way NEVER work themselves or pay child support...just hang out on the street corner holding up their pants)while my paycheck dwindles away while I PAY FOR THEIR SORRY BUTTS!!!
did catastrophe have to happen?
Did New Orleans Catastrophe Have to Happen? 'Times-Picayune' Had Repeatedly Raised Federal Spending Issues
By Will Bunch
Published: August 30, 2005 9:00 PM ET
PHILADELPHIA Even though Hurricane Katrina has moved well north of the city, the waters may still keep rising in New Orleans late on Tuesday. That's because Lake Pontchartrain continues to pour through a two-block-long break in the main levee, near the city's 17th Street Canal. With much of the Crescent City some 10 feet below sea level, the rising tide may not stop until it's level with the massive lake.
New Orleans had long known it was highly vulnerable to flooding and a direct hit from a hurricane. In fact, the federal government has been working with state and local officials in the region since the late 1960s on major hurricane and flood relief efforts. When flooding from a massive rainstorm in May 1995 killed six people, Congress authorized the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, or SELA.
Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to subside.
Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.
Newhouse News Service, in an article posted late Tuesday night at The Times-Picayune Web site, reported: No one can say they didn't see it coming. ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation.
In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.
On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.
Also that June, with the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps' project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:
The system is in great shape, but the levees are sinking. Everything is sinking, and if we don't get the money fast enough to raise them, then we can't stay ahead of the settlement, he said. The problem that we have isn't that the levee is low, but that the federal funds have dried up so that we can't raise them.
The panel authorized that money, and on July 1, 2004, it had to pony up another $250,000 when it learned that stretches of the levee in Metairie had sunk by four feet. The agency had to pay for the work with higher property taxes. The levee board noted in October 2004 that the feds were also now not paying for a hoped-for $15 million project to better shore up the banks of Lake Pontchartrain.
The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs.
There was, at the same time, a growing recognition that more research was needed to see what New Orleans must do to protect itself from a Category 4 or 5 hurricane. But once again, the money was not there. As the Times-Picayune reported last Sept. 22:
That second study would take about four years to complete and would cost about $4 million, said Army Corps of Engineers project manager Al Naomi. About $300,000 in federal money was proposed for the 2005 fiscal-year budget, and the state had agreed to match that amount. But the cost of the Iraq war forced the Bush administration to order the New Orleans district office not to begin any new studies, and the 2005 budget no longer includes the needed money, he said.
The Senate was seeking to restore some of the SELA funding cuts for 2006. But now it's too late.
One project that a contractor had been racing to finish this summer: a bridge and levee job right at the 17th Street Canal, site of the main breach on Monday.
The Newhouse News Service article published Tuesday night observed, The Louisiana congressional delegation urged Congress earlier this year to dedicate a stream of federal money to Louisiana's coast, only to be opposed by the White House. ... In its budget, the Bush administration proposed a significant reduction in funding for southeast Louisiana's chief hurricane protection project. Bush proposed $10.4 million, a sixth of what local officials say they need.
Local officials are now saying, the article reported, that had Washington heeded their warnings about the dire need for hurricane protection, including building up levees and repairing barrier islands, the damage might not have been nearly as bad as it turned out to be.
Will Bunch (letters@editorandpublisher.com) is senior writer at the Philadelphia Daily News. Much of this article also appears on his blog at that newspaper, Attytood.
Gee, who could have expected that would happen. nm
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I would love to see that happen!
not everybody thinks/believes the same way you do.
Thanks for your response. That is probably what would happen....
just did not know for sure.
Q: 'How did this happen?"
No misunderstanding. Just don't happen to
If he stood around and let it happen...
so did Obama. They are both senators, and Obama's has the majority. So where was he?
Who said I was for Biden -- I just don't happen to
trying to start an argument on this board. I don't like the woman. Do I have to like her to vote for McCain? Some would say yes, since if elected she will probably be Pres in a year or 2 when McCain kills over. She's probably the biggest turnoff to me in McCain's whole campaign. Why couldn't he have picked someone else -- like Hillary?
When did this supposedly happen? nm
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If it did happen it will mostly likely turn up on
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Well, if and when it is time, it will happen (sm)
and whichever candidate is supposed to be in office will. I was worried about this too and talked to some family members about it. If it is time for things to end, we can't change the course of that by making sure one candidate or the other is elected.
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