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Let's get back on subject of this board

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-05-29
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Lately, all I've been seeing (again) is fighting over who is right or wrong and our freedoms being taken away.  Doesn't anyone care to comment on news anymore or am I on the wrong board. I didn't think this was the gab board.


What about ACORN? Has anyone kept up with what is going on? Glen Beck has had a bunch of ACORN people on in the past 2 weeks and I haven't seen a single comment about it. O'Reilly also had 2 ACORN associates on last night and O'Reilly asked if they would open their books and, of course, the answer was "no."  ACORN is being investigated in quite a few states, including ours, but haven't seen a single post on this. Whatever JTBB thinks of Fox News, at least they are trying to get down to the bottom of where the money came from for O's campaign, who handled the money, and where it went.


What about the nominee for the court? I have not seen a comment about that, either. What about her? Is she going to be sworn in and is she biased as some say?


(This one I hate to post but because of all the comments below but...) What about the voters of CA voting against gay marriage and now it's supposedly going to the Supreme Court? That's ridiculous. Since when is the Supreme Court allowed to overturn the voter's wishes? Can you imagine someone winning an election and a group sues and takes it to the courts and they overturn the election? Think about it.


O keeps stating things are getting better, but I'd like to see where. In my state, our county unemployment rate is now up to 9.8%. What about the so-called jobs that were created and, BTW, are temporary jobs, not considered "forever" jobs.


What about KOREA thumbing his nose at the world? Doesn't anyone care that this nut is threatening war against us? Doesn't anyone care that our troops are on high alert? Doesn't anyone care that he's playing with nuclear bombs and missles that could hit us some day?


I haven't seen a single post on the above. That, IMHO, is politics.




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Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


Go back to con board
Here we start with the conservative attacks..You seriously need to go back to dinosaur land, i.e., the conservative board..bye bye!
get back to the conservative board
LOLOLOLOLOLO, dont like it?  Dont read the posts..simple as that, deary.  As far as my posts are the worst, LMFAO..You, child, have not visited other political boards as mine are calm compared to others but, **BIG SIGH**, I realize you are one of the three who always come on this board from the conservative one..cant stay on your own board, gotta come here and start trouble..So, to you who posts here all the time, get back to the dinosaur, backward thinking conservative board and leave the liberal board alone..Bye, bye, sweetheart..
Go back to the conservative board
Get off the liberal board, we dont want you here.
So does this mean you're going back to your own board now, as you were

Goodness seems to be routing me right back to the board

FYI gt, using vulgar language or posting pictures of vulgar hand gestures is against the rules, not that you care, but I think the board monitor is on to ya.


Thought you guys liked foul mouthed hand gesturing people.  I don't understand why you think this is some kind of ammo.


As I said above, come back to this same board and apologize when he does a great job!
Geesh! Give the guy a chance already before you knock him!
Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
Speaking of backfires, it's back to the drawing board
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So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
LOL...off the subject

Don't know if that's true about Bill or not, but the graphic showing the top 3 newsmakers with Mr. Floatie--join the movement gave me my much needed gut laugh for today....  


What can I say...I like potty humor...please don't flame me 


On every subject

one can see good and bad.  All people will never agree on anything.and there is good and bad in all people.  I most certainly do not think blacks need to be compensated for their ancestors but count on it, that will happen no matter who is in the White House.  I don't think slavery was right either but you know what?  I wasn't around 150 years go to own any slaves so I'm not accepting any guilt trip.  The repatrition (or whatever the word is), if that gets seriously considered in CONGRESS, you can bet my Senator and Representative will get an ear full from their old "friend" the gourd!  LOL


I certainly don't mean to start a race war but blacks have the same opportunities in this country as whites.  Have a look at one of the presidential candidates.


Do you even know what the subject is here?..(sm)

Yeah, I think I'm through with this board.  The incoherent ramblings from pubs on here is getting boring.


He already has been subject to a different
standard.  He had to run a campaign with little or no mistakes, which he did.  He has always been held to a higher standard.  If he had run a campaign like Clinton's or McCain's, he would have been a laughing stock.  Being held to a higher standard will probably make him the best president we've seen in our lifetimes. 
Just a little touchy about this subject.
Get so darn mad about the whole Iraq mess we are in, and wish it would go away.  Bin Laden is a thorn in Bush's side because of the friendship between their families that it would be obscene for him to kill his friend.  So transparent.  Makes me ill to think of what he has done to this country, when there is a REAL threat with Iran.  Now what?  Our troops in Iraq fighting a war that can't be won, but Iran is now free to do whatever they want.  Sorry about the harsh words earlier, just sick of the whole matter, and where we as a nation are headed.  And it is good to see that his lying is finally coming out, what dispicable things he has said and done, and what a can of worms!  Thank goodness it is coming out.
The subject in this thread is a cat.
How did we get to this?  And is it really necessary to call names?  I mean, we are civilized people after all. It's rather hard to understand why you attack someone even when they are AGREEING with you.  I try to be respectful here, but it's very hard to communicate when the subject is changed constantly in a thread.  Perhaps an I hate Bush and all conservative thread would be best started and all posts to that effect might go there.  Nothing is being furthered here except what seems to be a very bad grudge.  In a public forum.  Really not cool. 
On the subject of Plame...

what about Richard Armitage?  Certainly no conservative, certainly no Bush lover, definitely against Iraq war...he said HIMSELF that he talked to the Washington Post about Plame being in the CIA before Libby said anything to Novak.  He felt comfortable doing so because "it was common knowledge around Washington that Wilson's wife worked for trhe CIA."  Wilson himself brought all this on with the op ed piece he wrote in the times trying to smear the administration.  That is what made Novak say...hmmmm....why would the administration send a Bush hater to Niger?  Welllll because the CIA suggested him...and whoooo in the CIA suggested him?  Valerie Plame.   But no one, including the illustrious Patrick Fitzgerald, paid a lick of attention to that. 


Agendas, agendas, agendas.  Wilson and Plame out to get the administration, Patrick Fitzgerald to get a name for himself...no matter what the cost.  And poor old Scooter took the fall, along with the first amendment. 


Oh well....all for the cause right?  Get Bush no matter what.  Sigh.


Looks like you want to keep arguing on a subject that's old and done with
We don't need to keep going over issues on abortion. We all know what abortion is. I started reading your post and didn't know if you were trying to give us a medical course on "what to expect when your expecting" or if you were preaching to us from a religious standpoint. This issue was discussed and debated and argued over extensively below. It looks like you were'nt satisfied and want to argue some more - and from what it sounds like from others this has just bored all of us to sleep. I thought the political board was for political discussions, not pregnancy lessons or religious beliefs about when a fetus actually becomes a human being.

Move on...too many other topics to discuss. BTW, no need to shout at us with your headline.
Well, on the subject of sex education...
I doubt Bristol thought what she engaged in could not cause pregnancy. I feel sure she knows what makes babies.

Now I am sure that out here in real america there are many thousands of families who have had a pregnancy like this in their families or know of one in close acquaintances. I don't think this argument is going to hold any water with them and I think they would be insulted by this.

Your Candidate knows that, that is why he just wishes that all his supporters who think they are helping him would just stop.
Your subject is JM's temper....sam's is
media bias, which is rampant, 100 to 1, if not more on the side of democrats. It's a fact. Period. No amount of spinning off subject can change that.
NP. This is most definitely a touchy subject
You got the right idea. Wish I had that kind of self control to just say no.
Yes, let's change the subject, shall we? NOT

nm


Not going to broach the subject with you nm
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the subject is deregulation

of insurance companies which would result in collapse of the industry. Can you image the results of that?  Do you think it might affect your teeny tiny job in any way?


 


the subject is mccain's
suitability for president not your sick interest in Bill Clintons sex life.  Contemplate it as much as you want to; the issue today is McCain vs Obama.
We are getting off the subject here...your point was...
why should anyone be afraid of him because he is just one man and he would have to get past Congress. My point was...they will have the majority. THere is no getting past then...clear sailing. Whatever agenda he wants...goes through. THAT was my point.
what does dancing have to do with the subject?
nm
Try reading up on a subject
See post under sam's blather.
This is just a very emotional subject
It definitely isn't for the weak at heart. ;)

Don't take anything on here personally.
The least you could do is stick to the subject...(sm)
As far as how I could vote for Obama after 911.  Well, probably because he won't go running all over the middle east starting illegal wars in the name of fighting his "the axis of evil."  My guess is once he straightens out Bush's mess, which is a job all by itself, he'll do what this country needs him to do -- restore credibility.
Change the subject? LOL
I thought we were talking about ILLEGAL.  Isn't that what you've been ranting about....Obama not being a "legal" citizen?  So how is asking about ILLEGAL parents natural born citizens changing the subject?  I don't notice any explanation as to where in the Constitution it says ILLEGAL parents can give birth to legal citizenship to their children.  I do believe that the Constitution just might be referring to kids born to LEGAL immigrants being automatic citizens.
Not changing the subject.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/13/poll-obama-facing-high-expectations/
Poll: Obama facing high expectations. Refer to the "overall approval rating" paragraph toward end of article.

http://www.gallup.com/video/111904/Most-Expect-Obama-Make-Effort-Republicans.aspx
Most Expect Obama to Make Effort With Republicans

obviously no one wants to talk to you on this subject.
There's no law against it
Yet again changing the subject...(sm)

My original post merely pointed out that Olberman had a good question (which has yet to be recognized on this board).  Just as a refresher, the question was, why is Coulter trying to get on NBC to promote her book (in which she talks badly about NBC) when she has such a low opinion of the network.  This is not a battle of the networks, just a simple observation that anyone with half a brain can see.


I guess it's easier to change the subject than to actually answer a question or post an opinion on the subject matter.


Yet again changing the subject...(sm)

My original post merely pointed out that Olberman had a good question (which has yet to be recognized on this board).  Just as a refresher, the question was, why is Coulter trying to get on NBC to promote her book (in which she talks badly about NBC) when she has such a low opinion of the network.  This is not a battle of the networks, just a simple observation that anyone with half a brain can see.


I guess it's easier to change the subject than to actually answer a question or post an opinion on the subject matter.


Change the subject? You are the one
can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. If no one believes this, who are all those people interviewed that voted for O and cannot tell you why? They all had a fairy tale image of him. That, my dear, is much more documentably effective than your stereotyped opinions.
What's wrong...don't like this subject? LOL...nm
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Read the posts below about the subject

President Bush has thrown more money at poverty than Clinton, and I do not dispute the fact that Clinton went a long way in reducing poverty.  Workfare is one of the best programs to come along in a long time, and one thing Clinton did right, however, it needs to be to be expanded.


Poverty is not solely a lack of financial means for many people (not everyone), but poverty in this country seems to stem from moral poverty in many cases.


Wasn't trying to change the subject

I personally, don't think that Coulter is a bottom-feeder.  She directs her barbed remarks towards adults who should be able to take it and not innocent children.  However, I believe Al Franken and Michael Moore, and most of the folks at Daily KOS and The DU are just as vicious.  You all love Molly Ivins here, and she's just as rough around the edges as Coulter too. However, I defend their rights to free speech just as much as I do Coulter, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly etc.  The left's problems with the latter three (and more) is the fact they tend to pull the highest ratings.  It makes them litigatory and ready to censor.  The left wants to stack the deck in their favor.


The subject in this post is bashing...nm

My take on the subject, the short version.
Every country has some form of socialized medicine. Ours is comprised of the poor, the elderly, and those giving service to our country (military and political of which number in the millions) both past and present that encompasses their family members as well through different benefit packages depending on where they fall within the system. I believe the major argument is about extending those benefits in a social manner outside of what is already in place.
oops - my subject line got cut off
I just like that she is "up" on energy policies - not sure if that's coming out right, but i've been reading good things about that.
I wasn't trying to change the subject
just stating something that I thought I had observed. I'm sorry for being so stupid and uninformed and I will go crawl back in my hole now. Good luck to you, Sam. My heart can't handle being talked to this way, especially when I didn't respond in a manner deserving of such a tone.
Here is some info I found on the subject.
Obama's 28 male staffers divided among themselves total payroll expenditures of $1,523,120. Thus, Obama's average male employee earned $54,397.

Obama's 30 female employees split $1,354,580 among themselves, or $45,152, on average.


Why this disparity? One reason may be the under-representation of women in Obama's highest-compensated ranks. Among Obama's five best-paid advisers, only one was a woman. Among his top 20, seven were women.


 


McCain's 17 male staffers split $916,914, thus averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.

On average, according to these data, women in McCain's office make $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. In fact, all other things being equal, a typical female staffer could earn 21 cents more per dollar paid to her male counterpart - while adding $10,726 to her annual income - by leaving Obama's office and going to work for McCain.


How could this be?


One explanation could be that women compose a majority of McCain's highest-paid aides. Among his top-five best-compensated staffers, three are women. Of his 20-highest-salaried employees, 13 are women. The Republican presidential nominee relies on women - much more than men - for advice at the highest, and thus, best-paid levels.


Also, let us look at the fact that Obama could have picked a woman as his running mate and did not.  McCain, however, did pick a woman. 


Changing the subject to the tax rant
nm
Changing the subject does not change
I agree. Any undecided voter should read the entire fact check site AND both candidates issues platforms on their websites.
We've BTDT with this subject.
The "sex education" being discussed relates to the kind where children are empowered to recognize inappropriate touching by adults and encouraged to report such molestation incidents to schoold counselors and parents. By best friend is an adult survivor of molestation that occurred between ages 4 and 7. Her 2 sisters were also molested. She has schizoaffective disorder, had a psychotic break at age 30 (when her first and ONLY relationship with a man ended) of the sort that disabled her from being self-supportive for 2 years.

Since that time, she has been in individual and group counseling twice weekly and has been on heavy medication consisting of anxiolytics x2, antidepressants, antipsychotics and sleep medications ever since. She is 53 years old now and continues to live a tortured existence and is barely able to hold down an hourly MT job...production being out of the question because she can't handle the stress.

I have to wonder how her life and the lives of her 2 sisters (one a life-long alcoholic, the other with manic depression) had someone told her that sitting on grandpa's lap and bounching up and down was not a good game to play with him and that her father was not supposed to touch her "wee-wee" when he puts her to bed at night.
what are you talking?? You go off the subject, stay with US..NM
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Yes.....changed the subject from Obama.......sm
to anchor babies growing up to be president. And didn't I say that I would help you rant and rail over it when the time comes?

If a person is born on US soil, they are considered a US natural born citizen unless they choose to denounce it. They are therefore "endowned with certain inalienable rights" one of them being citizenship.