Look what the Govt did to Soc. Security.
Posted By: They take our money and waste it --criminal.nm on 2009-01-30
In Reply to: So far in watching the news today - on a lot of stations, I do not think
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The govt isn't taking over the car companies. Govt
has to be involved in getting our cars to run efficiently using little or no gasoline. Get it! Oil companies are not going to give up their golden egg, and we CANNOT be dependent on foreign oil, keep giving OPEC 700B a year, that simple! Give them a chance to get booted up and running to get energy-efficient autos. It's not going to happen overnight. We have wasted 30 long years since the last energy crisis in which Carter tried to get off oil, but oil companies put the kibosh on it, after all, oil runs this country.
Oh, God! Well, the govt is actually us,
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Please tell me exactly how the govt
packaged derivatives down the throats of the lenders. I am extraordinarily curious.
What next....you want govt to tell you how much sun
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Exactly! Look what they did to Soc. Security.
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Right. and MORE govt involvement is just asking for
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Yep, we will soon be prisoners of our own govt.
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If the govt. is going to let my job go to India, they can
"I'll take that in $20's, please."
LOL. SHE will spend too much in govt?
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According to Obama. He wants to Govt to run
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Okay, so the last thing we need is a Govt
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Why should the govt be able to tell people what to eat?
Ya'll are always saying less government, then why should they be able to monitor what people eat? You think just because you are on welfare then you should be required to be a healthy eater? That is ridiculous!
Why should the govt be able to control part of your life and not all of your life?
Because the govt now owns 80% of AIG
So what are you saying? That it is fair for them to admit incompetence, whine for help and take the people's money, but its nobody's business what they spend it on? Corporate welfare has got to stop!
This is no different than if a relative came begging for help making their house payment, you gave it to them, then instead they blew it on caviar and a cruise - and expected/demanded more money from you in the future. Would you feel you had the right then to tell them what to do with it? Or would you refuse to give them another cent and let them crash and burn?
In this society, when an individual admits their incompetence and declares (or has concerned others prove) they are unable to handle their affairs, they are made a ward of the court with a guardian or a committee of guardians to tell them what to do with their money and their lives. This is not a temporary situation (such as individual welfare is supposed to be), the government has more huge payments to AIG scheduled.  Yes, there should be strings attached to the money - BIG ones.
Yet Another Govt Assessment
High confidence: Military experience is found throughout the white supremacist extremist movement as the result of recruitment campaigns by extremist groups and self-recruitment by veterans sympathetic to white supremacist causes. Extremist leaders seek to recruit members with military experience in order to exploit their discipline, knowledge of firearms, explosives, and tactical skills and access to weapons and intelligence.
Although individuals with military backgrounds constitute a small percentage of white supremacist extremists, they frequently occupy leadership roles within extremist groups and their involvement has the potential to reinvigorate an
extremist movement suffering from loss of leadership and in-fighting during the post-9/11 period.
http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/fbi-military-nazis-2008.pdf
Of course dear! Don't ya know govt ALWAYS knows what's
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O is smarter than JM on nat'l security.
Just for starters, here are a few concepts that would tend to argue in favor of inernational diplomacy...and hes got a brilliantly inspired plan.
2nd clue: He knows that US cannot be a leader in a world that it has alientated.
3rd clue: He understands the concept of common purpose. It is in the best interest of all modern, civilized nations to defeat terrorism.
3rd clue: Understands that securing, destroying and stopping spread of WMDs can only succeed as a a global effort, i.e., we can't be everywhere at once.
4th clue: Recognizes value in renewing and constructing old alliances to meet common challenges and threats.
5th clue: Foreign aid aimed at constructing foundations of sustainable democracies; strong legislatures, independent judiciaries, rule of law, civil society, free press and honest police force.
6th clue: Knows his geography. Appropriage military initiatives against AL Quaeda and Taliban in Afghanistan, their home base.
7th: Securing nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states.
8th: Energy Security.
9th: Obama on diplomacy: "The United States is trapped by the Bush-Cheney approach to diplomacy that refuses to talk to leaders we don't like. Not talking doesn't make us look tough — it makes us look arrogant, it denies us opportunities to make progress, and it makes it harder for America to rally international support for our leadership. Obama is willing to meet with the leaders of all nations, friend and foe. Reagan did this with Gorbachev, who posed a much greater immediate threat (i.e., "We are going to wipe you off the face of the earth") than Iran, Venezuela or Cuba does (for example). He will do the careful preparation necessary, but will signal that America is ready to come to the table, and that he is willing to lead."
10th: Obama: "The United States should have the courage and confidence to talk to its adversaries. Demanding that a country meets all your conditions before you meet with them, that’s not a strategy. It’s just naive, wishful thinking."
I realize this is a bit much for the scorched earth disciples, so it really serves very little purpose to really go to far beyond these basic principles, they way that he has. This is was real leadership looks like.
Well they should have the same security clearance
if they are a threat, as Obama is supposed to be. Okay if he gets in, then the FBI can do their thing and he can get thrown out of office, put in jail? or what? What has he done that is illegal??? Do not get it.
We are screwed with McCain also. Face it.
isn't that social security?
We already pay 7.5 of income to social security and employers pay an additional 7.5%. An IC pays the full 15% themself. Is this 5% in addition to that, replacing that or what? Can you provide additional information or a source for such?
Security check?
I apologize. I'm obviously not understanding your statement.
Are you saying that a United States Senator, now internationally known because of his historic run for United States President, who is constantly surrounded by Secret Service people, is unable to pass a SECURITY check?
If that is what you're saying, please provide a link to support that.
Security Clearance
Can you post where you found that he had a security clearance denied? I have not seen that before.
Isn't US Citizenship required for senators? Wouldn't the FBI or the DSS uncovered back when Obama was first elected to senate?
Re: Social Security
Yes, I applied in April of 2008. Was denied. Filed Request for Reconsideration. Was denied. Am now awaiting a hearing, which might take another year. Since my initial application, I've developed a few more diseases, and I'm hoping to talk with my lawyer today to see if we can send a "Dire Need Letter," since the situation is now dire.
As far as quarters, I have plenty of them and was even told when I applied how much I could expect to receive each month.
I never, EVER thought I would be in a position like this. If anything, I've softened my attitude about "those people" who are forced to take advantage of government assistance. You just never know when it might happen to you. 
If you want to just hand your paycheck to the govt.
Then by all means...support government funded healthcare! Nothing is free, and personally I would like the discretion on when and where to by my health ins. This country...or should I say it's people cannot afford healthcare for everyone. Look at Canada and look at the U.K. Their socialized healthcare stinks. People are dying waiting to get treatment. Besides, if we go to socialized healthcare then where are the Canadians and British going to come for quality health care like they are doing now? Do you know that if you have advanced stages of any diseases in these countries that the governments are starting to deny care to them? You don't get a choice. The government decides that you die! Pretty sad if you ask me.
"What's good enough for congress is good enough for me?"
Hardly....
Exactly! BIG Govt is not a good thing!
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Your "HOPE" may just come true. and the govt
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it's too bad neither govt party realizes
Yeah, look at the success the govt has been with
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The new govt will be worse. BIGGER.
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Down through the ages, the US has been a secular govt.
has been upheld in countless court challenges and it is a given in the civilized world, last time I checked.
Since the beginning of time, human beings have elaborated their cultures through differences in individual appearance (style/fashion), family and social structures, community organization, economy, law, government, nationality, language and religions. They will continue to do that until the end of time. Your gloom and doom prognostications of world government and world religion are too ridiculous to address to any further extent.
Could be, but it's their decision to make, not yours, not the govt
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govt job programs/CETA
My first real job some 30 years ago was a CETA job. That was Comprehensive Employment and Training Act. This was doing medical transcription for a county health department. I worked as a CETA employee for a year, they trained me and paid me, and I have worked in transcription for 30 years, of course moving on to hospital stuff. Made big bucks for quite a few years and now here I am, strangely enough, I think back to the same money I made all those years ago. You've got to keep your sense of humor.
It provides GOVT jobs! -Who pays for that?
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Dems want the Govt to take care of them.
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What is scary is having a govt so big it can control
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Yep!..and people currently on Govt-funded
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An expect those govt officials not to have their...sm
"liquid lunches?" Are you kidding me? Alcohol won't be regulated - all the suitmakers around the DC area just wait for those beer- and scotch-bellied officials to order a new suit!
However, I do hear that AR just passed a new, higher tax and that most people are crossing over into MO to get their smokes???
You don't believe in Social Security and Medicare?
What would your plan be for the elderly population then?
No drug laws? I thought libertarians only objected to posession of marijuana as a crime. I didn't know you actually objected to all drug laws. So then, you believe all drugs should be legalized?
You don't believe in a standing military. I am not sure I remember that right. It's hard to remember that very long list without it in front of me. So is your plan then that we should all live in a drug-haze, leave all other countries to their own devices and we won't need a military because we won't be bothering anyone and who will care anyway because, of course, we will all be stoned? I can't say that I see any cogent thought behind this list. It's a morally relative list of Doctor Feel Good. I thought libertarians had more sense. What a bummer dude.
So you don't believe we have national security concerns?
If you do believe we have national security issues then what is your answer to keeping us safe?
So no opinion on war and peace, HL security
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McCain and National Security
McCain Lobbyist Scandal Continues: Government Warned Senator That Campaign Manager Was Undermining National Interests
The lobbying firm of McCain campaign manager Rick Davis acted in direct opposition to American foreign interests, which prompted a warning to McCain's Senate office from the United States government, according to a recent New York Times article.
Much has been reported about Rick Davis, top McCain adviser and lobbyist whose company, Davis Manafort, made its fortune in part by accepting jobs that didn't require employees to register as lobbyists. Davis has been in particular hot water for his company's work with pro-Russian Ukranian political candidates; Davis arranged for one of Putin's allies to meet with McCain during the time.
However, the New York Times has managed to take that already embarrassing story and make it even worse:
Mr. McCain may have first become aware of Davis Manafort's activities in Ukraine as far back as 2005. At that time, a staff member at the National Security Council called Mr. McCain's Senate office to complain that Mr. Davis's lobbying firm was undercutting American foreign policy in Ukraine, said a person with direct knowledge of the phone call who spoke on condition of anonymity.
A campaign spokesman, when asked whether such a call had occurred, referred a reporter to Mr. McCain's office. The spokesman there, Robert Fischer, did not respond to repeated inquiries.
Such a call might mean that Mr. McCain has been long aware of Mr. Davis's foreign clients. Mr. Davis took a leave from his firm at the end of 2006.
This isn't the only time when Davis' business interests have appeared counter to those of the United States: Davis' Ukranian contacts shared several business ties with Iran.
McCain suffered from a perception problem last month when the extent of his lobbying connection caused his campaign to fire several key staffers, as well as institute a new conflict-of-interest policy. The McCain camp has said that Davis is unaffected by the policy, as its implementation is not retroactive. Davis is no longer registered as a lobbyist.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/12/mccain-lobbyist-scandal-c_n_106832.html
threat to national security
and YOU have undisputed proof of this?
Senators, etc, don't have the same security clearance as
the president. Do a little research on the subject. Face it, if the chosen one gets in we are screwed, without the benefit of dinner and a movie first.
National security and low taxes.. For me, that
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Right..and without strong National Security, the
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Yes. Natl Security. Biden said O was not
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Head of Homeland Security?...nm
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Does this help. Homeland security force.
KNOWN AS HOMELAND SECURITY FORCE, CIVIL DEFENSE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y&feature=related
This is about freedom of speech being taken away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn_llXvTx5g
This is about section 899A (3), developing home grown terrorists in our own land (civil defense).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ68jBGK8o&feature=related
It's called national security. sm
jm is correct, in that the current administration's plans and policies have kept us safe.
A lot will be revealed, when it is safe to do so, so that our national security is not compromised.
You and I, as citizens, do not have the security clearance to be made aware of what has been averted.
It's not like he skipped a security briefing!
There was nothing in Bush's self-serving farewell speech that would be of any importance to Barack Obama. Obama has much more important things to concentrate on these days. Personally, I would rather have Obama concentrate on issues that will be affecting the future of our country than waste his time listening to a lame duck pat himself on the back!
As far as being disrespectful...respect is something that is earned, and George Bush has done nothing to earn respect from anyone.
Four days and counting till the lame duck gets shipped back to his murky Texas pond...and not one minute too soon, if you ask me!
Yes. President's first job is Natl Security.
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Speaking of National Security,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30107040/
I hope we are not having a war on US soil soon.
WASHINGTON - Cyberspies have penetrated the U.S. electrical grid and left behind software programs that could be used to disrupt the system, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.
The spies came from China, Russia and other countries, and were believed to be on a mission to navigate the U.S. electrical system and its controls, the newspaper said, citing current and former U.S. national security officials.
The intruders have not sought to damage the power grid or other key infrastructure but officials said they could try during a crisis or war, the paper said in a report on its website.
"The Chinese have attempted to map our infrastructure, such as the electrical grid," a senior intelligence official told the Journal. "So have the Russians."
The espionage appeared pervasive across the United States and does not target a particular company or region, said a former Department of Homeland Security official.
"There are intrusions, and they are growing," the former official told the paper, referring to electrical systems. "There were a lot last year."
Authorities investigating the intrusions have found software tools left behind that could be used to destroy infrastructure components, the senior intelligence official said. He added, "If we go to war with them, they will try to turn them on."
Officials said water, sewage and other infrastructure systems also were at risk.
Protecting the electrical grid and other infrastructure is a key part of the Obama administration's cybersecurity review, which is to be completed next week.
This administration is putting USA security in
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