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Nothing against immigration, but I don't...

Posted By: Kendra on 2009-04-29
In Reply to: those people need to stay where they belong - EmmaT

think it is too much to ask them to jump through the appropriate hoops to live LEGALLY in our great country. "Who are they to break our laws?" is the better question. They come up here and drive cars with no insurance--I have been in an accident with an illegal with no insurance and no driver's license. You know what happened to him? Nothing. I got stuck repairing my own vehicle that he rear ended and nothing happened to him at all. Not even a ticket-not that it matters because he wouldn't show up to court anyway. Wonder why auto insurance costs so much in California? That's it right there. There are HUGE problems with illegal immigration and I hope they close the border indefinitely. It amazes me that people say things like you just said. You have apparently not been directly affected by illegal immigration.


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Hillary on immigration...
not sure why you are asking me; I didn't post anything about Bush and immigration...I don't happen to agree with him on that. Apparently Hillary does though...see article:
WASHINGTON --Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a potential White House candidate in 2008, said Wednesday some Republicans are trying to create a "police state" to round up illegal immigrants.

Alerts Clinton, D-N.Y., spoke out on the U.S. immigration policy after largely staying away from an issue that has roiled Congress in recent months and spurred a number of conflicting proposals.

Speaking at a rally of Irish immigrants, Clinton criticized a bill the House passed in December that would impose harsher penalties for undocumented workers.

"Don't turn your backs on what made this country great," she said, calling the measure "a rebuke to what America stands for."

The House measure would make unlawful presence in the United States, which is currently a civil offense, a felony.

Clinton said it would be "an unworkable scheme to try to deport 11 million people, which you have to have a police state to try to do."
That sounds to me like she is supporting amnesty from the back door saying that it would not be possible to round them all up.

You will also notice that the Republican congress wants to make it a felony to be here illegally...good for them. Hillary does not agree, and neither does Bush. As I stated...I do not agree with Bush on this issue.


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It's 13 minutes long, but well worth it (and no commercials)!


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Immigration lawyer. nm
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He has been able to produce no immigration
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Ilegal immigration

This is a major bone of contention with me and unfortuately both candidates want to give these illegals a "path to citizenship"......er amnesty.  I believe this is a large part of what is wrong with the economy:


1.  Our government doesn't comprehend the meaning of "illegal."


2.  Big business wants cheaper labor.  Illegals work for less with no benefits so what follows?  They depress wages for American workers.  Remember Bush's favorite saying (haven't heard him say that in awhile) "they do jobs Americans won't do."  There is no job American workers won't do if the pay is right.  Cherokee Casinos have obvious American citizens doing work, including cleaning the bathrooms, they don't employ....well, I'll say it...Mexicans.  I believe they pay them around $9 an hour.  Cleaning bathrooms isn't a job that I would like to do but Americans are doing it.  Most of the construction jobs are done by Latinos.  Those jobs used to pay well but now an American citizen is passed over in favor of hiring illegals. 


3.  A lot of our economic problems I think are because banks gave loans to illegals, knowing full well they might default on the loans. 


4.  Illegals are given the same benefits as citizens and that is just WRONG.


From what I see we are not getting the cream of the crop immigrants, we are getting the bottom of the barrel that tax our welfare system and get free medical care while LEGAL citizens go without.  Your neighbor is a classic example, come here illegally, have a kid and you're here to stay.  The first thing that needs to go is the "anchor baby" thing.  How the heck can a child born to ILLEGAL parents become a citizen automatically.  Ridiculous. 


That's the job of the immigration department.
LAPD deals with robbery, rape, murder, drugs, domestic violence, car chases, etc., in other words actual crimes.

The immigration department deport illegal immigrants.

If an illegal immigrant commits a crime, LAPD is allowed to arrest them.

Personally, I find that most illegal immigrants are much harder workers than many of the lazy US citizens who think they are too good to put in a hard day's work.
Yes, Bush has softened on immigration
Many conservatives, including me, want to see much tougher immigration policies than what he is proposing. I propose a 15-foot wall along the total southern border with high voltage lines on top. If people die trying to scale the wall then it's their decision.

I'm not sure that immigration needs to be a felony, but any illegal immigrant caught should be deported post haste. I do think deportation of illegals who have been here many years and are productive may be a little too tough. I am for earned legalization as long as forgery and corruption is kept in check. People who are here illegally should get in line behind those outside the country who are following the rules and waiting their turn.

There are no easy and inexpensive ways to fix border enforcement that was badly neglected over the last quarter of a decade or more, but it's better than the alternative of letting our borders be a free-for-all.
Here is the lastest immigration law, 2000. sm
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=80
Perhaps when putting yourself out as an immigration law expert,
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LAPD are not Immigration Cops
"...a known illegal criminal..." I love that turn of phrase, Kendra.

Police can spot "dangerous gange (sic) members" who've been arrested in the past, and they can't arrest them without due cause. The police don't deport people; it's not their job. If someone is committing a crime that's under police jurisdiction, then they'll arrest them. Immigration is not the jurisdiction of the police, like it or not. The police have much more important things to do than track down undocumented immigrants.
Immigration debate going on C-Span2 right now.
Just flipped it on and don't know how long it will be on. Interesting so far.
OMG! Check out O's stance on immigration

Please note, these are from 2008 before the election, but I think they still hold true.


 


http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Immigration.htm


In fact, you can also check out Emanuel, Holder, McCain, Napolitano, Clinton, here:


http://www.ontheissues.org/Immigration.htm#Headlines


 


Bush Flip Flops on Immigration Bill...sm

Sensenbrenner: Bush Turned Back on Bill


Key House Republican Jim Sensenbrenner says Bush turned his back on immigration bill


WASHINGTON, May. 17, 2006
By FREDERIC J. FROMMER Associated Press Writer








(AP)



(AP) Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, who has pushed a tough border security bill through the House, accused President Bush on Wednesday of abandoning the legislation after asking for many of its provisions.

He basically turned his back on provisions of the House-passed bill, a lot of which we were requested to put in the bill by the White House, Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., angrily told reporters in a conference call. That was last fall when we were drafting the bill, and now the president appears not to be interested in it at all.

Sensenbrenner chairs the House Judiciary Committee and would be the House's chief negotiator on any final immigration package for Bush's signature. He said it was the White House that had requested two controversial felony provisions in the bill the House passed last winter.

We worked very closely with White House in the fall in putting together the border security bill that the House passed, he said. ... What we heard in November and December, he seems to be going in the opposite direction in May. That is really at the crux of this irritation, he said of Bush.

Steven Camarota....director of research for Immigration
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Immigration attys probable grasp basic citizenship concepts.
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Two Border State Governors Declare Illegal Immigration State of Emergency

Two Border State Governors Declare Illegal Immigration State of Emergency



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