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O asked people not to listen to Limbaugh's venom...

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: Many faces of Obama - shelly

A law? You make me laugh. Limbaugh is just an overrated old drug addict windbag who is a hatemongerer. I hope he blows a gasket while on the air, NOW THAT would be entertaining.


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Limbaugh stated today he was asked to do an op-ed for the whole situation. nm
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Wow - people in this country actually LISTEN
ugh. DOUBLE ugh.
These people did not bother to listen to the sm
WHOLE speech.  They have to wait to get the distorted version from Fixed Noise.  It is very obvious that facts have no worth to the "Chicken Little Clique"; they only care about trying to convince the other sheep that they profess to know what they're talking about.
I agree. How many people listen to sound bites, read just the headlines, or
listen to the partisan radio/TV personalities, and then go out and make up their minds. It only takes 10 minutes to visit a candidate's website and read their campaign platform. People need to stop expecting to be spoonfed information and take some initiative in this process.

I heard someone condemning Senator Obama's speech yesterday. He was simply repeating as fact something a conservative media personality had said. This person had not listened to the speech nor read a transcript of it. He had simply let someone else make up his mind for him.



The American people didn't listen to the anti Obama sentiments sm
That Ayers crapola is not applicable. All that bashing of Obama is over SOUR GRAPES BABY!!! WE WON, YES WE CAN, YES WE DID

You ought to read the venom you spew
you all are supposed to be loving and tolerant people however, you never are loving and tolerant on this board. People try to discuss things with you, and you all go postal and start shooting them. You all are a sad, sad bunch of people. I feel real sorry for the people you come in contact with in real life. Of course you are probably nicer in real life...at least I hope so. You just bomb people here to get some kind of sick little pleasure.

Mean people like you all are the reason these boards have to be separate. Mean people suck.
The right did not have the same venom for Saddam when Clinton was in office...sm
You should read back through some old quotes from the right when Clinton was in office. Some of the big hitters on Cap. Hill now didn't even agree with the air strikes. Go figure.
Spew venom? Because I post rebuttals to untrue...
information or present the other side? Don't think I have called anyone trailer trash or wished anyone dead lately, which Dems have done toward me on this board. Being Independent means exactly that...not affiliated with any party. It does not remove the right to have opinions. This is a democracy, no matter how much the democrats would like to change that.

Which information that I have posted is false?

If you are truly an Independent, you would know that Fox News is the only place a conservative has to go to get anything of the conservative viewpoint in cable or broadcast news. THe others are in the pockets of liberals/Democrats and have been for years. Got a news flash for you...just because it appears on Fox does not make it untrue and just because it appears on MSNBC does not make it true.

What do the Dems post here that they have verified as 100% true? But I don't see you taking them to task.

Yes, I am truly an independent. I have been both. I have voted Democrat, but not in many years. When they took the hard left, they left me. Then I voted and was a member of Republican party. When they started leaving their conservative roots, they left me. So yes, I am an Independent. Independent of ANY party. No RNC or DNC tells me what to do or what to think.
yes, I asked you...but I asked you a specific question...
about the peace movement. I asked why you did not take your ideals to the real enemies of peace...and your answer was that you leave them to God but will instead preach to us not to fight them, even when they bring the fight to us. So be it.

We will agree to disagree.

I did not personally call you a whiner. As to who sent the military...I will say one thing. When you join the military, you take an oath. That oath has been posted here. You are under no illusions. You know that you may be called to war. It is an all voluntary army over there now. There is no draft. No one is over there because they were forced to go.

As to the people sending having never been...what has that got to do with anything?It was not just George Bush and Dick Cheney, Lurker. It was Congress. Many in Congress do have relatives, even sons and daughters, in Iraq. Have you read the resolution? It is very clear. They knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what it meant. I do not buy the lied to hooey. The Senate and House intelligence committees got the same briefings, or at least enough briefings to vote for the resolution. If they did not (in their own words) use due diligence before signing off on that resolution, whose fault is that? Certainly not Dick Cheney's or George Bush's.

Where were all these people when Clinton was calling for regime change? Because he was a Democrat they will follow him to war? You will see why I do not buy into their rhetoric.

And while I understand your big picture, as I have said over and over and you have never addressed, that will work only if the others in the big picture wish it to work. And if you honestly feel that God wishes that you lay down and let this country be overrun by terrorists, then so be it. I am not of the same mind.

The big difference is that I believe, as did Americans at the time of the Revolution, and that Americans did at the time of the Civil War...and that even some Americans did at the time of Viet Nam...some things are worth dying for. Most of our volunteer military feels the same.

When that is no longer the case, if you are successful in robbing that sense of patriotism from the generations to come without changing the minds of the enemies, where they feel that nothing is worth dying for...in my mind that will only bring death quicker, not keep it at bay, and the loss of the greatest nation on the face of this earth.

So, we agree to disagree.

God bless.
Limbaugh vs Fox
Limbaugh is just a mean spirited, loud mouthed boorish fool.  I pray that he nor any of his close family members ever come down with a devastating illness that could possibly be helped with stem cell research.  Tell me, what happens to the embryos eventually?  They are thrown away.  Right on, Michael J. Fox, speak out and tell it like it is. 
Rush Limbaugh sm
I stopped listening to him when he started calling us feminazis. I can't believe that big load of (expletive) is still allowed on the air. Not only is he ignorant, he's a hypocrite and a druggy and if he's trying to impress someone, it's not me.
Whose numbers? Limbaugh's
Proof please.  He's still #1 on the talk radio circuit.  If he loses a few thousands here and there it's hardly a drop in the bucket.  Liberal shows can hardly keep their power on.  There's really not an argument there.  The proof is in black and white.
Rush Limbaugh

hero of the great unwashed said SP was a "babe", "could wear a skirt", had "definable ankles."   I thought sexism was sexism whether complementary or derogatory.  I'll know more after my bath.


 


Rush Limbaugh
I'm surprised I haven't seen Rush Limbaugh's name mentioned on this board.  Talk about a nut job!!
I am no limbaugh fan by any means
but I do agree with him that I want our president to fail.  I don't want our country to fail, but I don't want him to be able to perform everything on his personal agenda because i don't agree with it.  There is nothing wrong with saying that.  Why would I want him to succeed when I believe everything he wants to get done will do nothing but make a government huge and run everything.  I don't want that.  I don't want more government programs that allow people to mooch off of hard working people.  Yes, I want President Obama to fail.  In my opinion, if Obama succeeds......we all lose.  I'd much rather him fail so we can hope for a brighter future.
Or they could just blame Limbaugh...
that seems to be pretty popular these days, also.
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh
Al Franken on Rush Limbaugh


I've heard Al Franken say this on a television interview.  He repeated it in an interview with Geov Parrish at WorkingforChange.com (05/02/05) to which we can conveniently link:


GP: What do you think the differences are between you and Limbaugh?


AF: I'm glad you asked me that. I use this example a lot. A few months ago, Rush was talking about the minimum wage. Conservatives like to portray it that no one has to raise a family on the minimum wage, the only people who get the minimum wage are teenagers who want to buy an i-Pod. So Rush says, "75 percent of all Americans on the minimum wage, my friends, are teenagers on their first job." And one of the researchers brings this to me, with a smile, and I say, "Well, can you look it up?" And they look it up, the researcher goes to something called the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 60.1 percent of Americans on minimum wage are twenty and above. 39.9 percent, then, are either teenagers or below twelve (laughs). I had several jobs as a teenager, so you figure, what, 13 percent might be teenagers in their first job. Not 75 percent. So where did Rush get his statistic? Well, he got it directly from his butt. It went out his butt, into his mouth, out the microphone, into the air, into the brains of dittoheads. And they believe this stuff.


So we get our labor statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He gets his from the Bureau of Rush's Butt. And that's the difference. We don't do that. That's one of the main differences.


Limbaugh needs to stop lying

Limbaugh runs away from Limbaugh (Keith Olbermann)


NEW YORK - There is nothing wrong with an unpopular opinion.


Nor is there anything wrong with a subversive one, nor a crazy one. This country was founded on opinions that were deemed by the powers-that-were to be unpopular, subversive, and crazy. Dissent - even when that dissent strays from logic or humanity - is our life’s blood. But if you have one of those opinions, and you express it in public, honesty and self-respect require you to own up to it.


Unless you’re Rush Limbaugh.


On his daily radio soap opera, on August 15, Limbaugh said “Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents, there's nothing about it that's real…” The complete transcript of the 860 words that surround those quotes can be found at the bottom of this entry.


Yet, apparently there was something so unpopular, so subversive, and so crazy about those remarks that he has found it necessary to deny he said them - even when there are recordings and transcripts of them - and to brand those who’ve claimed he said them as crackpots and distorters. More over, that amazing temple to himself, his website, has been scrubbed clean of all evidence of these particular remarks, and to ‘prove’ his claim that he never made the remarks in question on August 15, he has misdirected visitors to that site to transcripts and recordings of remarks he made on August 12.


Limbaugh is terrified. And he has reason to be.


Understand this about Limbaugh. He doesn’t believe half the junk he spouts. I’ve met him, and had pleasant enough conversations with him, twice - at the 1980 World Series when he was still a mid-level baseball flunky with a funny name, and once in the mid ‘90s at ESPN when he was just beginning his campaign to get a toehold there. He is a quiet, almost colorless man who, if he could be guaranteed similar success in sportscasting, would sell out the sheep who follow his every word - and would do it before close of business today.


But with that ESPN bid having gone up in flames just under two years ago, and sports forever closed off to him, he’s gotten into what the novelist Robert Graves called a “Golden Predicament” - overwhelming success in a field he really had no intention of pursuing - and he has to keep churning this stuff out every day. And when you’re just free associating to kill time and keep the ditto-heads happy, you sometimes drive right off the end of the pier.


Like on August 15th.


Since we declared Limbaugh “The Worst Person In The World” two nights later for the remarks about Sheehan, he has had the transcript of his pier-drive expunged (even though he initially thought so much of it, that it was posted as a “featured quote” for paying subscribers to his website). Simultaneously, the hapless Brent Bozell, who runs that scam called The Media Research Center, declared that I was guilty of “distortion” in quoting the Sheehan remarks.


Well, as you’ll see below, the only distortion here, is that which lingers in Limbaugh’s ears. His remarks about Sheehan were so embraced by at least one of his fans that they were preserved on another website, and we can present them in full here. You will notice that nothing has been taken out of context, nothing in the minutes before nor the minutes afterwards mitigates against the utter callousness and infamy of his comments about Sheehan.


A reminder that that’s Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Mother, who when I asked her bluntly if President Bush wasn’t serving her purposes more by not seeing her, was honest enough to answer “yes” without hesitation. And it’s Rush Limbaugh, who so believes in his case against her that he’s too afraid to admit he said this (and who, by the way, has since said of her that, "I'm weary of even having to express sympathy... we all lose things” - as if her son had been a misplaced, er, prescription).


The long preface concluded, here is what Rush Limbaugh said, crazily weaving in and out of the topic of Cindy Sheehan, in his broadcast of August 15. He even wanders back into football, and the very topic that proved his end at ESPN, Donovan McNabb of the Philadelphia Eagles (honestly, if he ever wanted to be analyzed, he would be such a juicy case that psychiatrists would bid for Limbaugh’s rights). So, as you get deeper into the thicket, you can find the relevant portions about Sheehan, I’ve italicized them. Limbaugh had wandered into this via the news of the withdrawal of the anti-John Roberts advertisement from NARAL:


“They pulled this ad because it wasn't working. They didn't pull this ad because of a bite of conscience or, ooh, this is wrong. And their mistake was they're telling themselves they came out of the barn too soon with it. If they'd have come out of this say a week before September 6th. Well, stop and think about it. If they would have run this ad, if this would have started a week before September 6th, CNN carrying it, and none of the Democrats denouncing it, and without a whole lot of time to gin up, it would have probably had more effect. So I think they're going to learn from this that they didn't keep their powder dry, they just were too eager.


“But the fact that they are too eager -- I mean, Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents, there's nothing about it that's real, including the mainstream media's glomming onto it, it's not real. It's nothing more than an attempt, it's the latest effort made by the coordinated left. And all of these efforts are bombing; they're all failing miserably, in and of themselves.


“Now, this is not to say that all is rosy. I don't want you to misunderstand. But I don't get that worked up about it. I have an attitude about it. I've been sharing this with you for the longest time. So I think we're in a new era. The left doesn't get away with this stuff anymore. They're not getting away with it now. I know it's irritating, I know it's frustrating, I know it makes you mad, does me, too, but it's not helpful to the people who are doing this, it is not assisting them.


“They are going to try to claim that Cindy Sheehan is responsible for the Bush poll numbers on Iraq being down, but those numbers were falling before Cindy Sheehan did this. I'm not saying the mainstream press isn't effective in certain areas anymore, I'm not saying the mainstream press doesn't have the ability to shape opinion. Just saying on this, this is not the thing everybody should be worried about. I don't have one in my mind that is, something everybody ought to be worried about, but if you're going to be angry at this, and I understand the anger, and I share some of it, too, the anger here, to me, is how the left and the media are trying to make this bigger than it is.


“But that still takes me back to the fact that they know they're losing, they know they're losing big time. These people are throwing it up against the wall. It's the fourth quarter and all they're doing is throwing long bombs and their quarterback's gotten too tired to finish the game and their wide receiver is out there making all kinds of disparaging comments about the quarterback and getting kicked out of camp.


“The situation with the Philadelphia Eagles pretty much dovetails what's going on with the Democratic Party right now if you ask me. It does. I don't think that we're looking at people who have a posture of confidence. This is not the kind of thing that winners do. It's all done in total desperation, as is the mainstream press's ability to prop it up.


“What's she got? A hundred stragglers have showed up down there, a hundred peaceniks, a hundred long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking FM types, essentially, are down there joining her. And if this were genuine, if this were like it was back in Vietnam -- remember, that's what they're trying to turn this into. They're just reliving the old halcyon days of the anti-war movement in the sixties. They would have had hundreds of thousands of people down there. They would have had mass marches. There would have been the need for riot cops outside Bush's ranch down there. This is so obviously a desperation move.


“Now, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the woman. I think she's taken the grieving process here to lengths that most people don't, and she's being fueled by all of this attention. But this is just a long way of saying I'm not -- you can call about it and you can talk about it but I just am not that worked up about it because, to me, it's sort of like -- I got an e-mail today from a guy said, "Rush, why aren't you talking about that radio scandal going on?" Why should I talk about it? Why should I talk about that, folks? There's a cardinal rule, when your enemy is destroying themselves, you shut up and you get out of the way and let them do it. And it's happening in countless areas and times on the left. Certain things you do need to give a little nudge, other things you just get out of the way.


“But the longer the Sheehan thing goes on and the longer she's treated as some sort of super-celebrity by the press and the more outrageous things she says, trust me on this, the more people are going to get fed up with it. She's going to become the next Natalee Holloway before it's all said and done.”


E-mail:



KOlbermann@msnbc.com KOlbermann@msnbc.co


Limbaugh quoting Moran
You post Molly Ivins...so what's your point?  The post is kinda allegorical to what you are posting tonight.  You're having party while people are dead and dying.  
I posted it know what Rush Limbaugh said

I don't think I have wait for the liberal analysis of what Rush said.  I was actually listening on the days he said all the things you referred to above,  Of course, the so-called impoverished in this country are not the only ones with an obesity problem.  Anyone who eats more calories than their body can burn on a daily basis will end up with an obesity problem it's not exclusive to race or class. 


The UNICEF remarks were making fun of a U.N. charity program which, I believe, just last year was documented to be funneling money to Kofi Anan and his cohorts, but of course it was nicely swept under the rug.  Actually, Rush was making fun of Sally Struthers for standing around truly starving people making us feel guilty for not sending money to UNICEF while she's standing there weighing all of 300 pounds herself, and I would bet my life she didn't miss a meal while doing that shoot.


That's not the point.  I know what Rush said, because I heard what Rush said when he said it.  It was satire whether you believe or not.  Again, Rush does it, because he knows it will inflame liberals, and the PC crowd.  He didn't talk about the bloated bellies of the starving people in the context you and the article want to spin it to be. 


You don't get it, and I don't expect you to.  I politely suggest you stick to Air America (for however long it remains on the air), and don't bother yourself with what Rush has to say, because when you call him or anyone else bloated or fat you are seriously defeating your own cause in being outraged that he called someone else fat.


The liberal double standards just don't fly anymore.


Rush Limbaugh's response
Rush Responds to Democrat E-mail Petition Against Him:

"I am greatly puzzled. Why would the Democrats petition against me if I am doing such terrible damage to the GOP?
Olbermann, Maddow, and Limbaugh
Can't stand any of them. Two are on the left, one on the right, and they are all cut out of the same cloth, in my opinion. Blustering, self-righteous, and intolerant. Maddow is a little more subtle, but very full of herself and her narrow opinions. I agree more with what Rush says, but can't stand to look at him or listen to him. What a big, self-important windbag.
Shades of ......Rush Limbaugh!
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Robt. Reich's response to Limbaugh, et al
Here's a link to Robert Reich's response on his website. Do yourself a favor and read it. It's not long.

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-rush-limbaugh-sean.html


Rush Limbaugh, hardly the Messiah of the Rep. party.
I agree with a lot of things he says, but just like the dems don't like to have Obama put forth as thier Messiah, I know pubs don't like to have anyone named that way - not Rush, not Newt, not anyone. And him being addicted to drugs at one point in his life has nothing to do with it. Clinton was a lying, cheating womanizer and looks like the majority of the dems got over that one!

You just have to put certain things in perspective, that's all.
Carville vs. Limbaugh..more double standards
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail

The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.

By Bill Sammon

Wednesday, March 11, 2009

On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed."

Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.

"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I’m wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.

The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don’t want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."

Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"

The press followed Carville’s orders, never reporting his or Greenberg’s desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party’s top strategists, that Bush should fail.

That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.

Rush Limbaugh taught 'em how!
  Desperate to say something bad, even if they have to fake the film to do it!  Because they know their loyal viewers are such sheep they'll believe anything they see on their show as gospel - even if it is debunked later!
Rush Limbaugh is a rude, ignorant, overweight

Rush Limbaugh is a rude, ignorant, overweight

Racists and bigots like, lets see, McCain and Palin, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter and Hannity?
Give me a break....
As if you would listen. I might as well
nm
Don't listen to him either
I put him in the same boat as Rush, although I have to admit not as bad as Rush. Some of Savage's ideas I like, some I don't agree with. I like how he takes someone who is spewing utter garbage and puts them in their place with facts to back it up. He is pretty smart in that regard. Once we heard him and some caller was going on and on and Michael Savage told him he didn't know what he was talking about. They guy was getting so irate and Savage called him a rabbid dog foaming at the mouth then hung up on him. I can't tell you how hard we were laughing in the car thought DH was going to drive off the road.

I'll tell ya though. If I'm in the car and they are on the radio we will listen to them. We do take everything with a grain of salt because they all have motives.
Listen,

I was NOT the one who posted this.  Someone else made that connection and posted it, or they were a reader and are bringing it up again.  To give them the benefit of the doubt, I posted the link so they could see the issues and everybody up in arms about a simple word post, to try and quell the discussion, GOD forbid they attack that OP like you all did me.  My post was about the names and letters in the names and NOTHING trying to link the two.  JUST a name.  Get over it.


I already apologized for offending anyone.  Get over it.


By the way, maybe YOU should apologize for calling your fellow MTs "stupid" in your post.  That's real nice.  Any intelligent person can make their own mind up when it comes to the candidates, and they are not going to base it on their name.  That would be ignorant of them, now wouldn't it?


 


No sam, listen to me. I am only going to say...sm
this one more time and then I will give up. Last week when Bush presented the initial bill, wonder of wonders, would you believe it, the democrats where anxious to prove they were bipartisan and could have passed the bill he requested, not agreeing with everything but trying to come together for the good of the country. The republicans said no, we want some input, dems agreed and the conditions were added that the repubs asked for, now they are voting against a bill that has what they asked for in it, a bill that their republican president is asking for.
No one will listen until something happens to them. sm
They also rely too much on mainstream media instead of independent media. The media plays a huge role in keeping people divided, distracted, and deceived.
You are right, BT, listen up on the
to go will be the talk radio shows like Glenn Beck, Laura Ingrahm, you know the ones. The ones who have the audacity to mention the God word and other stuff like that.
Okay, listen up.
These people just got new jobs, just got their salaries, most probably top salary for them.


I know I don't make $100,000 or more a year.


And yet his first day, he is freezing their pay.


What is wrong with this scenario, you might ask?




What for it....




















No one probably gets a raise for at least a year anyway or more.




This is just a ploy, to satisfy us little peons in the moment.




Good grief. Get real people.
Oh, so you were there to listen? Really now
nm
If you listen all the way to the end.......... sm
he talks about starting a tae party in Chicago and basically inviting anyone who wants to be a part to attend. At least, that's the jist I got.
Listen to this guy. sm
He is a Iraq war vet giving a speech at a freedom rally. He is a great speaker, and sounds like he could be a future leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOp_9VfR6o
So because I would listen to a gay

person's music....that instantly makes me accept a lifestyle that I find to be disgusting?  That just doesn't make sense.  For someone who preaches God's Word and claims to live by them, you seem to have no problem judging someone for their sins.  You think people should hide their sins because they are ashamed of them but you can't hide your sins from God.  The only thing you can hide your sins from or at least try to hide them from are other people and that just makes you a hypocrit in my book.  Yes, we lead by example but we also have to show people that we too make mistakes and can overcome that.  Hiding our sins just makes us fake. 


If a gay person puts out a good song....I'm going to jam to it and that doesn't mean I condone their lifestyle.


I already suggested that but maybe she will listen to you. nm

I listen to my own soul
I dont speak for other people.  I speak for myself..If others do not agree with me, great, that is the beauty of America..they have that right..I do not walk in lock step like brainwashed republicans do.  I choose what party to belong to, whom to vote for, how to believe..It is all up to me.so other democrats do not agree with me?  Wonder how you have the inside on how other democrats believe..however, that is okay..they can believe any which way they want.. 
Listen, GIRLFRIEND....
No I am not kidding you. They may have fought him tooth and nail on everything, but what got passed got passed because they voted it in. Bill Clinton in and of himself did nothing except cigar toast Monica Lewinsky and bomb an aspirin factory. He alone could do NOTHING. Why you cannot get that, I don't understand. You need to get a library card and USE it and look at how the federal government actually works. And as to impeaching him...if those same Republicans had voted like they SHOULD have, he WOULD have been impeached, and you can thank them for THAT TOO, "girlfriend." And impeached he SHOULD have been! He BROKE THE LAW. He committed felony perjury. Lied under oath. A crime in all 50 states. Look THAT up in the library as well.
I do not dispute that...listen to what I am saying...
if he honestly did not want to be portrayed in that way, why would you he use an elaborate rock star set for his speech? JFK spoke to a huge crowd too but it didn't look like a Hollywood production. If he wants people to think he is just one of the guys, why not dial it back a notch? That is all I am saying. I am not saying he has to "say" anything. Actions speak louder than words. It is the fact that he keeps denying he wants that status and acts completely the opposite. As far as hs ability to run the country...that has been in doubt with me for a long time and has nothing to do with his rock stariness.

I don't know what George Clooney has to do with it...or what the title sexiest man in the world has to do with it...?


They wont listen anyway, Sam.
nm
okay peeps -- listen up, anyone not

thread below, just check this synopsis.


Sam thinks that no one is blaming the dems enough for this situation and it's not fair to the pubs that they don't get their fair share of lynching.


Everyone else is more concerned about the effects of this economic crisis on their lives. 


Maybe you should listen to what your own candidate said about
him when he was pressed.  He said 'he is NOT a socialist, he is NOT a Marist, he IS a good man."  With that from McCain's  own mouth, looks like you could at least agree with your own candidate and get over it.
Don't you listen to him talk every day? sm
Try googling his speeches and press conferences of late, specifically that "it's going to get worse, before it gets better" type of thing. He is "warning" us daily of how bad things are and are to come, especially if we don't pass all his plans and policies ASAP.


It's all a ruse, to enact all his social programs under the guise of fear. We can pay the bill later, doncha know.






Child, listen up.
You have no idea who you are talking to, yet you seem to believe you know all about me. I have voted in 12 presidential elections in my lifetime, the first one being when Barack Obama was 8 years old. I've been active in politics for nearly 45 years, take my vote very seriously and keep myself well informed on all issues from both sides of the aisle.

Your simplistic dismissal of the jobs loss problems as being atrributable to the illegal immigrants only demonstrates how superficial your understanding is on the subject and speaks volumes about the sources for your information. You, my dear, are the follower, not me.

My support of Obama is based on the emergence of the right man at the right time for the job. I did not cast my vote this time around on my own behalf, like years past. This time, I did it for the sake of my son and the kind of world in which I want to see him live out his years and I can assure you, I do not envision that world being handed over to the divisionist viewpoints you have expressed where its okay to single out any given group on which to dump responsibility where it does not belong.
Then again, how man of us really listen to Joe Biden??? .....sm
He may have great foreign policy experience and lots of years in the Senate, but this man, nice as he might be, has hoof and mouth disease. I hold my breath every time he opens his mouth, he spouts off all the time without thinking...dangerous!