Only if you call blasting a snake self defense. I do.
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-18
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If it looks like a snake, hisses like a snake,
acts like a snake, it's a snake.... I don't know who you are, but I wouldn't want anywhere near you. Not a personal attack, misinformed? You don't know me...I forgot a lot more than you'll EVER know, missy.
Not to mention, Chavez blasting the US over Iraq on the floor of the UN...nm
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snake oil salesman is exactly what he is!
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You gotta be pretty low in order to look up to these snake
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LOL, do you come to the defense of
all the media 'savages' or just the extreme right - like Governor Palin?
OPs can't think of a defense for him because he
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That the best you got......no defense for your man?
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In defense of Starcat...
Not that s/he needs defending but I think the general concensus amongst we liberals is what the heck is it going to take for some of you on the right to admit that this administration has gone too far too many times. As the bumper sticker says, if you are not outraged, you have not been paying attention. It is just one thing after another after another and in my neck of the woods, you can't prove the economy is getting better or more jobs are being created either. Southwest Florida is a service community. If it were not for tourism our local economy would not survive. We are accustomed to people working for $6.15 an hour at service jobs. It has been that way a long time. Another one of those jobs created here or there is not cause for celebration. It's business as ususal. The University of Miami is in an uproar now, secondary to the STUDENTS' demands that the janitorial staff be paid a living wage. Thank God young people are getting it. The University of Miami is the fifth richest college in the US. I myself am not sure what that means...the student population comes from the wealthiest homes, the tuition is the fifth highest. Their budget is the fifth highest. I am really not sure what that means but I do know that the students found out their janitoral staff made $6-something an hour, no benefits and no raises in the last 5 years. They were shocked and have been bringing this to light, to the press. It seems that Miami contracts these jobs out (what a surprise) to the private sector and so they pass the buck to the contractors who say they can do whatever they like. The students are saying this is despicable and so on....anyway, I am rambling here, sorry, but my point is horrific abuses of power are happening one after another, the economy and the job situation are not getting better where it counts and that is in the paychecks and the benefits of ordinary Americans who are losing jobs in droves, working at low-paying, no benefits jobs, cannot afford to buy insurance, cannot afford to pay gas prices, watching billions being spent on a war of choice that has become an embarrassment even to Republicans, watching our elected officials lie, Swiftboat anyone who disagrees with them, put undercover people in harm's way, eavesdrop on their own citizens, torture their detainees, and on and on and on. Our point is, what will it take for you to finally see what a debacle this administration is? What will it take for you to care that worldwide the United States and Bush are a joke or that an American city has been wiped out, promised the WPA on steroids and not a thing is being done, people are homeless by the thousands in LA, Mississippi and here in Florida and not only because of the hurricanes. What will it take??
In defense of Levi
I am not a fan of SP, but I feel bad for this young man being dragged into the national spotlight. First of all, his Myspace page had not been accessed for a year which means anything he had written was over a year old. Secondly, when a Myspace page is set up, there is a section for kids, and one of the choices is Don't Want Kids. I think it is being misrepresented that he took it upon himself to write don't want kids. Either way, at the time he was probably 16 years old. How many 16yo boys want kids?
I will be voting for Obama, but I still say leave this kid alone. He has nothing to do with the election. But do I think he looked mighty cute all cleaned up at the convention!
O needs no defense on this or his policies.
for me to know and for you to find out after the landslide in T-minus 24 and O's inauguration in January.
I know my candidate, my party and their platform. I am very comfortable with my choice. Since there is no party radical enough to suit you, and since you know so much, why don't you establish your own? How about the Nazican party? Has kind of a catchy ring to it, don't you think?
In defense of Kaydie -
I don't really think that Kaydie needs me to defend her - I think she is pretty tough - but Stardust, you are wrong this time. Up front, I have already voted for Obama...
I have had several conversations with Kaydie lately and I have never heard her say anything negative about Obama because he is black. And she is right to say that there is a stereotype about black women and the way they talk.
Also, if Kaydie is wrong, and I have shown her at least 1 time that she was wrong, then she will post an apology and accept that graciously.
This time, however, she is not wrong. And by the way, if you are not getting it out of her messages, she is a black woman herself.
Sorry, Kaydie, if I stepped into your battle unwanted.
Well....in Obama's defense
He did promise CHANGE. Sadly it will be for the worse though and his brainwashed lemmings will believe anything he says.
Why have civil defense. NM
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Civil Defense
civil defense: NOUN: abbr. CD A range of emergency measures to be taken by an organized body of civilian volunteers for the protection of life and property in the event of natural disaster or enemy attack.
Oh Ditze..always on the defense! nm
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Their best defense is an ad hominem attack against us. sm
That's the most I will say. I don't want them running to the moderator. 
In defense of the original poster...
Although I am not one to cross party lines; I will vote democratic no matter who, I am going to help defend the original posters statement. The only reason I say this is because when it comes down to it, if Hillary gets the nom, we are going to have a very conservative democratic president. She is pretty much at the same level of conservatism as McCain, and I don't see much difference between the two of them. However, if it comes down between Clinton and McCain, vote Hillary. We need to start a trend of more women in high politics and she will break the way for those to come who will be smarter and better than she is. :o)
Why go on and on in defense of the ඁ states"
remark? My God! and.. if it had been McCain making the same mistake, you probably would have been all over him. You want to insult me as if I pay no attention and do no research. I am 45 years old, take the presidency VERY seriously, and I do pay attention. So, "get smart" yourself and wake up! I do not believe that Obama has the experience or policies to lead and defend the United States of America. I do not care what color he is and I don't appreciate it when anyone, including himself, makes race an issue. We should not vote against or for someone because of color, yet it will happen. The way I feel about Obama has nothing to do with race, it has to do with "substance" as I said. You can feel the way you want. You certainly have not changed my mind. We all have a right to decide what WE feel is best.
Why all this defense of the poor downtrodden rich?
You said:
Yes, the rich get the bulk of tax cuts, that's because THEY pay most of the taxes.
I say:
That's because they make most of the MONEY. That's perfectly right. And yes they pay a higher rate which is also perfectly right because they are not paying taxes on WAGES. Capital gains and investment income - i.e. money that was not earned by hard labor - SHOULD be taxed at a higher rate. We know that if we win 20 grand in the lottery the government is going to take up to half of it, right? - we expect that. We expect free money to be taxed at a higher rate than wage income. So why are you fretting about free money for the rich being taxed at a higher rate also?
As far as tax revenues being higher now, the answer to that is ridiculously simple - many more people soared into higher tax brackets during the boom years of the Clinton administration and their new wealth is now generating more free money which then gets taxed and flows into the revenue coffers. Now are you glad about this or not? You can't say both the poor rich are being abused by high tax rates! and at the same time parade around praising Bush for his financial saavy because look, the revenues are overflowing! That's kind of schizophrenic. And besides the glow of joy is going to have to fade a bit when you consider that no matter how high revenues are, the exorbitant and wasteful spending of this administration has caused such huge deficits that your grandchildren will still not be seeing any benefit from those increased revenues.
And in addition, there are MORE people in general now, so of course tax revenues will rise with a rise in population. BushCo uses the same old tired tactic of braying about more people own homes now than ever before in the history of the country! Well duh. That's because there are more PEOPLE. More people = more total homes owned. They aren't talking percentage of the population owing their own homes. Instead they try to take credit for a simple total number that they had nothing to do with increasing.
Have to watch these guys - they know how to spin a statistic, but spin is all it is. Too bad it keeps right on fooling the worshippers.
He needs no defense. 35 years command performance
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Ah, the old love it or leave it limp dishrag defense.
This just in from the news desk. We folks who consider and, (God forbid) HOLD those other points of view are just as American as the next. We do not want OUR country associated with this barbaric bloodshed and our citizens desensitized to the point of emotional neuters by the one-sided, Zionist agenda-driven US policies and their media mouthpieces. Like the Palestinians, we are right where we belong and are not going anywhere.
Another piece of breaking news. Not only does the entire Middle East hate Israel (gee, I wonder why?) but this sentiment is shared across Europe and the rest of the globe in HUGE numbers. The bias is NOT with Al-Jazeera. They report what the rest of the world wants to hear and what the so-called free US press NEVER utter....the other side of the story. You might want to ask yourself just what it is your government does not want you to hear, and more importantly, why?
Israel will remain surrounded by enemies and reviled all over the planet until they end their bloody occupation of Palestine. THAT, is the only path to an enduring and lasting cease fire.
Within their own borders? Excuse me. Gaza is NOT Israel and it is the Israelis who are invading THEIR borders. You are completely clueless as to who is the David and who is the Goliath here, occupier versus occupied. Israel is a state-sponsored TERRORIST apartheid state that we bankroll. The shame is Israel's and ours, not Hamas and NOT the Palestinian people.
I dare you to take a good long look at the videos of the civilian slaughter while keeping in mind that it is now 630 dead on the one side and 4 dead on the other in a war waged with sticks, stones and homemade rockets versus an arsenal that includes nukes, chemical and biological weapons and the capacity to conduct their war from OUTER SPACE, for God's sake.
Lawmakers Question O's Missle Defense Cuts
Lawmakers are demanding to know why the president's proposed 2010 defense budget cuts missile defense by $1.2 billion and does not provide any funds for the European missile defense shield as Iran and North Korea defy the international community with missile testing.....
At Fort Greeley in Alaska, the missile defense silos can defend the U.S. from both North Korea and Iran, but the Obama budget would cuts the number of interceptor missiles based there from 44 to 30. And that has both Republicans and Democrats asking, why now?
"Is this being budget-driven?" Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., asked.
"The numbers don't add up to me," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., "I think it's just a question of somewhere somebody has decided to cut missile defense substantially, and you're doing the best you can under a difficult circumstance."
Sen. Mark Begich, D-Alaska said: "With North Korea, it seems since we've made this announcement, as I've said, 40 percent of their testing has occurred, plus an underground nuclear test. I mean, I don't know. That seems risky to me."......
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/16/lawmakers-question-obamas-missile-defense-cuts/
Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
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Then call it what it is...or call for conservation...
but don't make up a myth to try to gain control. That is what Gore is after...what all the global warming hoohah is after. They have an agenda...pure and simple. And the base fact is that a very low percentage of the greenhouse gas effect is from cars. Every time you breathe out, you contribute. Are we all going to stop breathing? Are cows going to stop belching? I have no problem with ethanol...I have used it. My husband is from Iowa...I would love it if we started using ethanol more extensively. But in previous years, Democrats (Hillary being a primary one) opposed the use of ethanol. I guess if I believed any of those people out there hawking global warming actually believed what they were saying it would be different...but I don't. The science is not there. As I said...if the real interest is conservation with the side benefit of less CO2...fine. Just say so. But as the article pointed out...if it is as bad as they say it is, you can't stop it anyway. It just does not make good sense to me.
Fine. Call if whatever you want to call it....
I will call it as I see it. I look at a totality of things. He has embraced black liberation theology which is racist and has Marxist tones for 20 years. There is no way the man went to that church for 20 years and did not know their doctrine. But, if you choose to believe that, again, fine. I do not. I believe he knows that theology backward and forward and believes it to his core. You don't have to. That is the wonderful thing about America. We can agree or disagree. On this we disagree.
Yes, I am feeling a pinch. But I don't think the government should take money from you and give it to me. I don't think they should take money from any private business and give it to me. If you think that is fair, fine. I don't. That is how socialism/Marxism takes hold. Historically it ends the same way. I don't want that for America. Perhaps you do...you want the pinch eased for you and if that means taking money from someone else that they earned, and giving it to you, who did not earn it, to you it is all good. To me it isn't.
He never has said who the $1000 checks are going to. I am thinking not every person in the whole US of A...so not only does he get to choose who he takes the money from, he gets to choose who to give it to. That would be another interesting piece of the puzzle. If he confirms to the Marxist view, it would be issuing checks to the "poor." And he gets to define who that is. You may be okay with that...me, not so much.
And by the way...have you ever researched an oil company profit margin? It is not as huge as Obama would like you to believe. But, again, he is counting on no one researching what he says. They hear free money and that's all they want to hear. Also, do you think oil companies don't employ people? You think it is one CEO at a desk in an office raking in billions? You don't think there are rank and file regular folks who work for oil companies? Whose jobs might be impacted by you and others wanting to take money away from their employers and doling it out to people who have not earned it? You think there is a chance they might have a problem with that?
I call, fax, and call again and I do campaign....
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CIA, Dept of Defense, Homeland Security, State Dept, et al.
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Try looking it up. To call something
untrue because you want it to me is truly blind. Just go to google and search for PNAC document. But you wont, because then you will have to admit your wrong and maybe actually put a few of your brain cells not already brainwashed into overuse.
I call them as I see them. NI
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I call them as I see them. NI
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I don't know how you can call it ...
respectful, because I don't see that it is any way respectful to the men and women in the war zone. But obviously their well being is not your primary concern. So be it. Protest away.
Effective? Effective in prolonging the war...yes. Effective in further endangering our men and women in the war zone...yes. Effective in boosting enemy morale? Yes. By all means. Get out there and be effective.
Exercise YOUR right as long as YOU feel it necessary. I think that says it all.
Have a good day.
DUH - call me an i-d-i-o-t
Okay, totally forgot about that. Boy, talk about feeling like an id!ot.
And guess I must have taken what he said wrong and not paid enough attention. Both of you said it was sincere, so I will believe you both.
call
yourself a saint, for all I care. How do you get your arm back there to pat yourself on the back? You are more sensitive than others. Thanks for letting us know. If you hadn't told us we might have missed it.
You need to call a tax guy/CPA or something
what this all means. You will not be getting a tax cut at all! You need to understand that.
Would never call you a Dem
I consider myself conservative, but have voted several times Dem. I just find it hard to believe that anyone could accept the hate coming from this man about how terrible this country is. Yes, there are problems, but villifying the government and calling the people in this country stupid - just beyond reason.
31K - 63K --is that what you call looking out for my
No doubt afraid of what you will see.....his vote to tax you even more.
I have not seen much in the way of what you call
racism EXCEPT from the supporters of O. Everytime someone makes a statement of why we shouldn't elect the O president, they are called a racist. So who's the fanatical ones?????
That's why they call it.......sm
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Call it whatever you want, but...(sm)
the fact is that he is actually doing something (as opposed to the party of NO and hip hop) that will actually help the economy. What's funny to me is that you guys seem to be terrified that he might actually manage to help someone who you would consider beneath you in the process. Yet another example of republican greed. Hey, maybe Steele can bust a few rhymes with that....
My name is Michael -- My game is to stifle -- We keep peons hungry -- And we keep all the money....Everybody in the house say Hey!...say Ho!
I will call it what I want
It's WELFARE!!!
Before you call me down,
that is loonies as the other perceives them to be.
Whatever you want to call it TS...
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What do you call...
you run of the mill wacko ANTI-life supporters? YOU MUST BE SO PROUD!!
Help, call Oprah. sm
There really is such a thing as a talking sphincter.
Well, call me what you want, but I wanted to know.
I say use God's name when you're speaking the truth. If it's truth point it out to me.
They don't call them CONservatives for nothing!
Con means to deceive or mislead. That's how they communicate, from Bush right on down to his peon worshippers. They deceive, lie, mislead, twist, manipulate. They do everything except speak the truth. This is a perfect example. You asked them above to see the post. You didn't get a response, did you?
Now they'll just continue to troll this board with more outrageous fictional tales conceived in their tiny little minds, all for the purpose of demeaning and attacking liberals.
It's really sad, irritating and definitely bothersome, but they are their own worst enemy because they are getting more and more out of control every day. In a way, I guess I will really be worried if it stops. If I no longer see those angry hateful posts here, I will fear that they finally snapped in real life and either hurt someone else or got hurt themselves. 
when did I call you bigot?
When, my misguided soul have I EVER CALLED YOU A BIGOT? Please show the post. If it is the post talking about the stench from anti war, then you did not use your handle and yes, I called whomever posted about dirty masses a bigot..I wish you could show me any other post..
Wake Up Call
Read this article closely:
Describing George W. Bush as the most stupid president in U.S. history, the Al Qaeda leader reached out to the Muslim world and said his group was winning faster than expected in Iraq.
The U.S. president's policy had enabled the militant group to achieve their goal of fighting more Americans, said the Al Qaeda leader.
We call the lame duck (Bush) not to hurry up in escaping the same way the defense minister did, he said, referring to the removal of Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary following the Democrats' victory in Midterm elections.
They are getting ready to leave, because they are no longer capable of staying, the Al Qaeda leader said.
Remain steadfast in the battlefield you coward, he called on the U.S president.
If this does not chill your blood, with all due respect, there is something terribly wrong. These people are focused on the destruction of the United States. They get their information from the New York Times and CNN, and they are heartened that the majority of this country who voted espouse the cut and run theory on Iraq. They seek to divide us from within and for the country to turn on the President (and they have done that successfully it would seem). They think (and it would appear that they are right in many cases) that the US as a whole has no stomach for the fight. In their eyes, we are weak and not willing to fight for what we believe in like they are, and in their eyes that makes us cowards. We are in a WAR, yes a WAR, like no other. And if you do not think us pulling out of Iraq prematurely will not fire the jihad you are very sadly mistaken. They will view it as a major victory and I shudder to think what will follow it. The very reason we have not had more major attacks on our soil, in my opinion, is that these people, with all their bluster, are afraid of George Bush and what he might do. They are afraid that if they pull something like that again Iraq might be a walk in the park and would mean even more American boots on the ground in places they don't want them. They just can't be sure of what the US might do under his leadership, and that is why they are biding their time. If we get a dovish adminstration, it could, and most likely would, get ugly real fast. All it will take is the first (and probably homegrown) jihadist to blow himself up in a mall somewhere and take several innocent American lives with him....and then it will be too late. It could happen, do not think for a moment it could not. They want dead Americans. They would prefer dead American citizens on our own ground. They prefer the cowardly fight. They do not prefer having to face our military. But they will, because they are dedicated to their belief, no matter how perverse it is, while all the time trying to get back on the playing field they prefer...cowardly suicide attacks. We will learn what Israel has had to live with for years, the hard way. Do you see where I am going with this? We NEED for them to remain afraid of what we might do if they start something like that. We need for them to respect our willingness to stand toe-to-toe for what we believe in. We need to demonstrate that we are willing to do so and not waver. We need to demonstrate a belief in our country and our way of life as strong as theirs is. We are already wavering as a country, and we need to suck it up and stand up straight again. It is time to wake up. We are not acting as the World police in Iraq. We are in a fight for our survival, the survival of a free country where we are not afraid to go into a mall or get in a car or go anywhere we wish without fear of suicide bombers, car bombs, being grabbed off the street and found without a head a week later. We do not need to join the hunker down and be quiet and maybe they will leave us alone club. That does not work. They are not going to leave us alone. No one is safe, for these people there is only one way....their way. They are not going to stop and go quietly away. That should be patently obvious. This is the most important issue that faces us. None of the rest of it will matter if we lose in Iraq. Take a moment to look at history, all the precursors of 9-11. Had we not gone into Iraq, and swept yet another incident under the rug (with Khobar Towers, the Cole, the Achille Lauro, Tanzania, Somalia, and on and on and on) there is no telling where we would be right now or what other awful things might have occurred. For those of you who cannot grasp that, who think that if we pull out of Iraq and pander to these people that everything will be all right....God help you. God help us all.
Wakeup Call
Great article and on target! It also should chill the blood of the get out of Iraq now crowd, because what this article describes is precisely what would happen. But, they have blinders on. Iran in control of Iraq's oil .... think on that for a minute. With their nuclear ambitions .... think on that for a minute, people. It is still hard for me to believe that we actually have leaders, members of our own Congress, who are ready and willing to turn our belly up to be ripped out by these fanatics. Sorry if that is graphic, but that is exactly what they want to do. How can anyone in their right mind support a party who would rather go after the man who had guts enough to fight for this country, than to go after the terrorists? If they would focus the hatred of George Bush and the energy trying to bring him down on terrorism instead we might be a lot closer to defeating them. How did their thinking get that screwed up? How did it become acceptable to screw over your fellow Americans, your own country, to have power? And how were they able to sell that garbage to a portion of the American people? I ask the question and I know the answer. Because a great portion of the American people have strayed from core values, moral stands, and the black and white of right and wrong to the gray area of appeasement and whatever makes ME feel good, to heck with what is best for the country. The REALLY sad part of it is that they are going to drag us all down with them. As I said in another post....as THEY sow, so shall WE all reap. It is heartbreaking. We cannot give up, however. We still have a mighty sword and that is prayer. And not to sit down nor shut up. God Bless!
Received a call for a
a political survey. I went Obama all the way. I love to respond to telephone surveys, but wish I knew who was gathering the data. They asked me if I was borned again.
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