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Potential for toxic leach in Colorado River, drinking water for

Posted By: Phoenix, LA and Las vegas....sm on 2008-11-07
In Reply to: Bush weakens EPA/ESA rules to pave way for - uranium MINING and DRILLING in Grand Canyon...sm

Yummy. Someone needs to put that man under citizens' arrest until January 22nd.


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Stop drinking the toxic Kool-Aid and do some
instead of parroting the partisan talking heads who are simply attempting to play politics with history.

The majority of toxic loans were made by financial institutions that were not subject to existing regulations thanks in large part to Phil Gramm. Btw, no one forced anyone to do anything. No one forced the banks to give loans to individuals who could not afford them and no one forced those individuals to attempt to purchase a home without the means to pay for.



Contaminated water/toxic metals
As a mother of a 19-year Air Force Master Sgt., I am FURUIOUS that this has/is being done to our troops!!.  If this does not constitute the mentality of a war criminal act; I don't know what does.  Our sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles and brothers and sisters who serve in this illegal and horrible war deserve far better than THIS.  And to think; the health issues of Vietnam war veterans STILL have not been addressed/compensated - I shudder to think what lies ahead healthwise for these troops.
Every head of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act?
Campaign co-chair. Sure you do. That's the one who called the meltdown a "mental recession" and said we are a nation of whiners (when speaking on McC's behalf). He sort of expressed pub policy when he authored that inspired piece of legislation that essentially gutted any semblance of the financial services industry. Wonder how many other pubs like him contributed to #8?

You must be the same flavor of indy that sam claims to be if you think she is an "informed" source, and especially since you seem inclined toward "bash" fits when confronted with a few harmless facts.


Sure there's potential for corruption
and if it corruption was actually happening you would have a valid point, but all this to do about phone taps is really only an attempt to squelch this president and is about as transparent as Saran Wrap given the fact that no one has come forth with a valid claim that they have been tapped without just cause.

The fact is EVERY president in the last 40 to 50 years or more has authorized unwarranted wire taps even the left's beloved Bill Clinton, but somehow you all were conspiciously absent in criticizing his wire taps.




CP says that he thinks Obama has the potential...sm
to be an exceptional president. That being said, I think that we are all in for very hard times whoever is elected president. I have the utmost confidence in the poor and middle class's ability to ride out the hard times. We have done so many times it is like second nature. Obama gives me hope that he cares and understands our plight and has the intelligence to surround himself with brilliant people and bring openness and light into our government instead of continuing secrecy and partisen politic as usual. One can only hope and pray.
To add, the GDA remarks, in context, were about the potential effects of
America not living up to its ideals. Context is everything.

Somewhere I saw a link to a site that had the actual sermons. I did not agree with everything he said, but I did agree with some of it. I will have to find that link. I think it was on another MT board...


Yep, McCain has potential to be a good president too....sm
Like Rush says, though, we may have to drag him kicking and screaming over the finish line.....LOLOL.............
Cry me a river.
Every group has gone through something horrendous at one time or another. Ever hear of the Holocaust? Or the Trail of Tears? Or the massacre of Irish families at the hand of England? Or the death-sentence indentured servitude some of our ancestors endured?

We just don't all spend our lifetimes whining about it.

Now that there's a Black president, maybe folks will admit they have it no harder or easier than the rest of us. We're all in the boat. We all have to row.
2nd Colorado Pastor Resigns sm

The founding pastor of a second Colorado church has resigned over gay sex allegations, just weeks after the evangelical community was shaken by the scandal surrounding megachurch leader Ted Haggard.


Haggard, a gay-marriage opponent, admitted to unspecified sexual immorality when he resigned last month as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and pastor of the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs. A male prostitute had said he had had sex with Haggard for three years.


On Sunday, Paul Barnes, founding pastor of the 2,100-member Grace Chapel in this Denver suburb, told his evangelical congregation in a videotaped message he had had sexual relations with other men and was stepping down.


Dave Palmer, associate pastor of Grace Chapel, told The Denver Post that Barnes confessed to him after the church received a call last week.


The church board of elders accepted Barnes' resignation on Thursday.


On the videotape, which The Post was allowed to view, Barnes told church members: I have struggled with homosexuality since I was a 5-year-old boy. ... I can't tell you the number of nights I have cried myself to sleep, begging God to take this away.


Barnes, 54, led Grace Chapel for 28 years. He and his wife have two adult children.


Palmer said in a written statement that While we cannot condone what he has done, we continue to support and love Paul.


River of hatred???

If Michael Moore has tapped into the river of hatred of the Democrats, what about a guy like Rush Limbaugh? What has he tapped into, the river of good will of the Republicans?


Elections are held every two years, and this election the people chose a majority of Democratic candidates.  I for one am glad that they did if for no other reason than it will bring new perspectives into a government that has been completely controlled by one party.  Further hope is that it may bring changes that work to the good of all of us.


I did not say river of hatred....
I said Michael Moore tapped into hatred and that liberals are on a river of denial...and I believe that. Why else would the very first thing they announced was that they planned to investigate Bush and corruption (not corrupt Democrats, just corrupt Republicans) and at least two have posted on the liberal board that they think terrorism should be on back burner to investigating Bush. Something is VERY, VERY wrong with that line of thinking, and that stems from hatred and revenge, certainly not any concern for this country.
Which is why he will sell us down the river
))
Will not be a river anymore is why we

So hot that the rivers and lakes are drying up.


Colorado to use inmates instead of migrants for farms...sm

Wonder who the farmers are?  Corporate, I bet.  They will get 60 cents a day.  Something else comes to mind - slaves. 


 


 


Obama signs the stimulus in Colorado
around 2:40 ET. Then off to Phoenix for a couple of nights and then to Canada. Sure loves to travel in Air Force One and still on a promotional tour. I bet he sure misses campaigning.


http://www.c-span.org/

Pres. Obama Promotes Stimulus Plan
Today

Pres. Obama signs the Economic Stimulus bill in Denver, Colorado, this afternoon. His promo-
tional tour for the $787 billion plan then takes him to Phoenix, Arizona, where he will stay the night. On Thursday, he travels to Canada, to discuss economic issues with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
Obama signs the stimulus in Colorado
around 2:40 ET. Then off to Phoenix for a couple of nights and then to Canada. Sure loves to travel in Air Force One and still on a promotional tour. I bet he misses campaigning.


http://www.c-span.org/

Pres. Obama Promotes Stimulus Plan
Today

Pres. Obama signs the Economic Stimulus bill in Denver, Colorado, this afternoon. His promo-
tional tour for the $787 billion plan then takes him to Phoenix, Arizona, where he will stay the night. On Thursday, he travels to Canada, to discuss economic issues with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
Obama signs the stimulus in Colorado
around 2:40 ET. Then off to Phoenix for a couple of nights and then to Canada. Sure loves to travel in Air Force One and still on a promotional tour. I bet he misses campaigning.


http://www.c-span.org/

Pres. Obama Promotes Stimulus Plan
Today

Pres. Obama signs the Economic Stimulus bill in Denver, Colorado, this afternoon. His promo-
tional tour for the $787 billion plan then takes him to Phoenix, Arizona, where he will stay the night. On Thursday, he travels to Canada, to discuss economic issues with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
My job was sold up the river years ago.
when to pick up my marbles and go home. I'm taking my 30 years of MT experience and medical terminology and going back into the real world to schedule surgery at the hospital where Dr. DeBakey ruled the roost in the Texas Medical Center years ago. They can't outsource me from there. I start there next week and will be making more there than at home with the best benefits found anywhere.

I may be getting old, but I learned how to read the writing on the wall decades ago and am still able to go with the flow. That flow is taking us into a new age this November and I find that downright exciting. If you want to wallow around in your gloom and doom, be my guest but trust me here when I tell you that life is too short for all that. You take yourself WAY too seriously.
But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.

Brings to mind the lie the US government told about Agent Orange not being toxic...

Don't you remember the gas/toxic warfare scare and we were told to duct tape our windows? SM
So, with the bird flu plan, what kind of silly advice do you think we'll get to keep us safe? 
Uh-huh. Have you been drinking again?

That's how it should be! No drinking.
And dancing is dirty - it's just fornication to music.
Bush drinking again???

(I was ready to disregard this, coming from the National Enquirer.  Then I weighed the credibility and honesty of the National Enquirer against the credibility and honesty of conservatives, and suddenly there was no longer any contest.)


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/63426


BUSH'S BOOZE CRISIS

By JENNIFER LUCE and DON GENTILE

Faced with the biggest crisis of his political life, President Bush has hit the bottle again, The National Enquirer can reveal.

Bush, who said he quit drinking the morning after his 40th birthday, has started boozing amid the Katrina catastrophe.

Family sources have told how the 59-year-old president was caught by First Lady Laura downing a shot of booze at their family ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he learned of the hurricane disaster.

His worried wife yelled at him: Stop, George.

Following the shocking incident, disclosed here for the first time, Laura privately warned her husband against falling off the wagon and vowed to travel with him more often so that she can keep an eye on Dubya, the sources add.

When the levees broke in New Orleans, it apparently made him reach for a shot, said one insider. He poured himself a Texas-sized shot of straight whiskey and tossed it back. The First Lady was shocked and shouted: Stop George!

Laura gave him an ultimatum before, 'It's Jim Beam or me.' She doesn't want to replay that nightmare — especially now when it's such tough going for her husband.

Bush is under the worst pressure of his two terms in office and his popularity is near an all-time low. The handling of the Katrina crisis and troop losses in Iraq have fueled public discontent and pushed Bush back to drink.

A Washington source said: The sad fact is that he has been sneaking drinks for weeks now. Laura may have only just caught him — but the word is his drinking has been going on for a while in the capital. He's been in a pressure cooker for months.

The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.

The result is he's taking drinks here and there, likely in private, to cope. And now with the worst domestic crisis in his administration over Katrina, you pray his drinking doesn't go out of control.

Another source said: I'm only surprised to hear that he hadn't taken a shot sooner. Before Katrina, he was at his wit's end. I've known him for years. He's been a good ol' Texas boy forever. George had a drinking problem for years that most professionals would say needed therapy. He doesn't believe in it [therapy], he never got it. He drank his way through his youth, through college and well into his thirties. Everyone's drinking around him.

Another source said: A family member told me they fear George is 'falling apart.' The First Lady has been assigned the job of gatekeeper. Bush's history of drinking dates back to his youth. Speaking of his time as a young man in the National Guard, he has said: One thing I remember, and I'm most proud of, is my drinking and partying. Those were the days my friends. Those were the good old days!

Age 26 in 1972, he reportedly rounded off a night's boozing with his 16-year-old brother Marvin by challenging his father to a fight.

On November 1, 2000, on the eve of his first presidential election, Bush acknowledged that in 1976 he was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol near his parents' home in Maine. Age 30 at the time, Bush pleaded guilty and paid a $150 fine. His driving privileges were temporarily suspended in Maine.

I'm not proud of that, he said. I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much, and I did that night. I learned my lesson. In another interview around that time, he said: Well, I don't think I had an addiction. You know it's hard for me to say. I've had friends who were, you know, very addicted... and they required hitting bottom (to start) going to AA. I don't think that was my case.

During his 2000 presidential campaign, there were also persistent questions about past cocaine use. Eventually Bush denied using cocaine after 1992, then quickly extended the cocaine-free period back to 1974, when he was 28.

Dr. Justin Frank, a Washington D.C. psychiatrist and author of Bush On The Couch: Inside The Mind Of The President, told The National Enquirer: I do think that Bush is drinking again. Alcoholics who are not in any program, like the President, have a hard time when stress gets to be great.

I think it's a concern that Bush disappears during times of stress. He spends so much time on his ranch. It's very frightening.

Published on: 09/21/2005



Bush drinking again?

Just for grins and giggles.


http://view.break.com/123866


A drinking problem?
She was a teenager making bad choices. Have you raised a teenager yet?
Or - what exactly is she SMOKING? (Or drinking?)

Keep drinking koolaid
The thing that pulled us out of the great depression was the war because back then it created jobs here in America.  We don't have that luxury now because nothing is frickin made here and even if it was......Americans don't buy our own stuff.  It was not FDR's New Deal that saved America from the great depression.  This isn't BS from fox.  This is history 101.  You liberals complain about pubs saying anything and that is about as hypocritical as it gets.  Both sides do that.  I'm a middle of the road kind of gal but I'm smart enough to know what got us out of the great depression and it wasn't FDR's New Deal.
Whose been drinking the kool-aid now?
Whoever told you Democrats do not believe in the same things you listed above as the so called right-wing "true patriots?"

The people perpetrating these misconceptions are the traitors.

People can be Democrats or Republicans and ...gasp...even independents and still be patriots.

We can agree or disagree - THAT is what this country was founded on and THAT is what makes us great.
So, you are also drinking the MSNBC
nm
Obviously..keep drinking the kool-aid, BB.

I'd like to know what kool-aid she was drinking!!
xx
Oh, this is rich. You accuse me of drinking and then cry when it happens to you. SM
Typical liberal double standards. 
gt accuses us of drinking daily
just wanted to see how she handled somebody accusing her of it....evidently she can dish it, but she can't take it.
What did Jesse Jackson do now? Has he been drinking
.
They are drinking that Kool Aid that suspends...
reality and keeps them from understanding anything bigger than hope and change, can't see the forest for the trees. It may be nice to sit back and watch the debacle that is sure to come once O is the new dicta...sorry, president. We will have the last laugh; too bad the country is going to suffer even more before any one of them wises up.
Boy, talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.
Israel would not even exist were it not for western powers high-jack of historical Palestine dating back thousands of years. They have been sustained by US tax dollars from the get go and absent that, they would be consumed by all the hatred they and their accomplices have generated over the past 60 years with their neighbors, since nobody on the face of the earth other than the imperial global bully would think of propping up its barbarism.

You can quote your Holy book all you want and they will quote theirs. Neither side will score any semblance of lasting peace in that futile exercise, especially since they originated from the same pooled blood of the Semitic tribes, and besides, this is not 1000 BC. No amount of preaching is going to make a dent in this disaster.

The only squatters in Palestine these days are the greedy settlers who cannot be satisfied with their own real estate agreed upon in Peace Accord, but then again history shows us that the Zionists could not keep their own word if their lives depended on it. They are now continuing their land grab within the shrunken borders of the West Bank, with their most violent factions being found in Hebron, where they pillage and murder with impunity. I've got video, if you are interested.

God was taken WAY out of this equation in 1948.

If you doubt my word, just let me know and I will post a link to a 9+-minute raw video out of Gaza showing the aftermath of one of Israeli's air raids on an open market full of families and not a militant in sight. Featured there are women, children, teens and elders writhing in piles of human carnage on a field piled high with human body parts, some remains no bigger than a 3rd-grader's back pack. But a word of caution, the video is not for the faint at heart. Do not view if you have just recently eaten and NEVER play it in the presence of children. Better still, Google it yourself..."Gaza Massacre market" and select the third hit from Sabbah TV, then get back to me and show me where God is in that clip.
You coffee-drinking cultist, you! sm
You made excellent points! <Hope you know my subject line was completely tongue in cheek.>
That is NOT in the title. More lies. Keep drinking.
nm
No water.
But I will send prayers his way for the salvation of all of us in these trying times. 
She's trying to keep herself out of hot water...sm
She KNOWS she is lying, but this sort of behavior is now well accepted by this administration! Sad - so, so sad!
Did I steal his Pepsi drinking idea?....nm
*
Not me, I'm drinking Obama-aide. I haven't been....sm
this happy in almost 50 years. My Hope-ometer is off the chart. I think that honesty is refreshing and no malice was intended. It was funny. I am still chuckling over politically incorrect Jill and the response of her husband, Oprah and the audience.
Is that cherry or grape Kool Aid yer drinking?
xx
Mmhh NO water..
Drink the water, fool, just drink a BIG COLD GLASS OF NO WATER..Please..you would do our country a BIG favor..
Water the Bushes...sm
I'm just hearing about the Water the Bushes project that will be done in remembrance of Hurricane Katrina and the response (or lack thereof) from our government.

I hope some of you got to send a bottle of water to the Pres.
You mean O can't walk on water?! Oh no
nm
OMG...I just saw him walk on water!!...nm
//
Pot, water, frog...

Over the last few years, I think I know what it feels like to be a frog that's dropped into a pot of cold water, with the temperature rise of the water being so slow that the next thing he knows, he's DEAD.


I know I'm "there," but this "evolution" has been so subtle that I don't know exactly when it began and probably won't realize when it ends (if it ends).


For starters, this bill was apparently introduced on June 26, 2007, while Bush was still President.


The way it was being hyped, it seemed to be something that was designed to encourage public service in young people in exchange for financial assistance with college tuition, etc.  I thought it sounded like a good idea, something that might help to build character in young people and encourage and foster the kind of behavior we saw after 9/11, when Americans helped each other and showed the world what we're made of when it comes to helping each other.  To offer a young person financial help for college in exchange for some volunteer hours, I thought, was great.  Equally great, I thought, was the notion that this was voluntary and NOT mandatory.


Now, it's apparently for everyone, including seniors, which is still okay, I guess, if this is something that some seniors want to do.


However, one little sentence (shown below) is sending up a BIG RED FLAG into my little pea brain, copied below and bolded:


From:  http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show


OpenCongress Summary:
The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act would dramatically increase funding for AmeriCorps and other volunteer programs, including those for seniors and veterans. It also establishes a goal of expanding from 75,000 government-supported volunteers to 250,000, and would increase education funding and establish a summer service program for students, paying $500 (which would be applied to college costs) to high-school and middle-school student who participate.


In its current form, the legislation does not include a mandate requiring service.


Quite frankly, I have jumped (like a frog) from link to link to link trying to research this, so I'm not sure what its "current form" is today.  It apparently was passed by the House and now by the Senate just a few days ago (see http://loungedaddy.us/?p=725).


Yesterday, at first, when I heard of Rick Wagoner, GM's "sacrificial lamb," basically being fired by Obama, I felt very uncomfortable with that.  After I thought about it more, though, I do agree that ANY company that accepts financial aid from Americans should be scrutinized, including, if necessary in this manner (even if Wagoner's firing, in my opinion, was merely symbolic and not substantive).  What sticks in my crawl is the fact that Wall Street crooks have been treated like kings while auto industry workers are being kicked more and more every day while they're down.


I was never comfortable with any of the bailouts, and that was the one thing that Obama voted for that earned him a spot on the "negative" column of my pros and cons list.


I freely admit that my thought processes have been severely hampered recently (especially after two hospitalizations in less than a month).  It's much more difficult for me to concentrate and to word-find at times.  I had hoped that Obama would be the "people's" President (as opposed to Bush being the "corporation's" President.


I used to think (and frequently wrote) that the Clintons and the Bushes were merely opposite sides of the same coin.  I still believe that; however, I'm starting to think that Obama's face is on that coin now.


To sum it up, on this day and at this time, all I can truly say with certainty is:


RIBBIT!!!!


 


Pot, water, frog...

Over the last few years, I think I know what it feels like to be a frog that's dropped into a pot of cold water, with the temperature rise of the water being so slow that the next thing he knows, he's DEAD.


I know I'm "there," but this "evolution" has been so subtle that I don't know exactly when it began and probably won't realize when it ends (if it ends).


For starters, this bill was apparently introduced on June 26, 2007, while Bush was still President.


The way it was being hyped, it seemed to be something that was designed to encourage public service in young people in exchange for financial assistance with college tuition, etc.  I thought it sounded like a good idea, something that might help to build character in young people and encourage and foster the kind of behavior we saw after 9/11, when Americans helped each other and showed the world what we're made of when it comes to helping each other.  To offer a young person financial help for college in exchange for some volunteer hours, I thought, was great.  Equally great, I thought, was the notion that this was voluntary and NOT mandatory.


Now, it's apparently for everyone, including seniors, which is still okay, I guess, if this is something that some seniors want to do.


However, one little sentence (shown below) is sending up a BIG RED FLAG into my little pea brain, copied below and bolded:


From:  http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show


OpenCongress Summary:
The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act would dramatically increase funding for AmeriCorps and other volunteer programs, including those for seniors and veterans. It also establishes a goal of expanding from 75,000 government-supported volunteers to 250,000, and would increase education funding and establish a summer service program for students, paying $500 (which would be applied to college costs) to high-school and middle-school student who participate.


In its current form, the legislation does not include a mandate requiring service.


Quite frankly, I have jumped (like a frog) from link to link to link trying to research this, so I'm not sure what its "current form" is today.  It apparently was passed by the House and now by the Senate just a few days ago (see http://loungedaddy.us/?p=725).


Yesterday, at first, when I heard of Rick Wagoner, GM's "sacrificial lamb," basically being fired by Obama, I felt very uncomfortable with that.  After I thought about it more, though, I do agree that ANY company that accepts financial aid from Americans should be scrutinized, including, if necessary in this manner (even if Wagoner's firing, in my opinion, was merely symbolic and not substantive).  What sticks in my crawl is the fact that Wall Street crooks have been treated like kings while auto industry workers are being kicked more and more every day while they're down.


I was never comfortable with any of the bailouts, and that was the one thing that Obama voted for that earned him a spot on the "negative" column of my pros and cons list.


I freely admit that my thought processes have been severely hampered recently (especially after two hospitalizations in less than a month).  It's much more difficult for me to concentrate and to word-find at times.  I had hoped that Obama would be the "people's" President (as opposed to Bush being the "corporation's" President.


I used to think (and frequently wrote) that the Clintons and the Bushes were merely opposite sides of the same coin.  I still believe that; however, I'm starting to think that Obama's face has replaced Hillary's face on that coin now.


To sum it up, on this day and at this time, all I can truly say with certainty is:


RIBBIT!!!!


 


Pot, water, frog...

Over the last few years, I think I know what it feels like to be a frog that's dropped into a pot of cold water, with the temperature rise of the water being so slow that the next thing he knows, he's DEAD.


I know I'm "there," but this "evolution" has been so subtle that I don't know exactly when it began and probably won't realize when it ends (if it ends).


For starters, this bill was apparently introduced on June 26, 2007, while Bush was still President.


The way it was being hyped, it seemed to be something that was designed to encourage public service in young people in exchange for financial assistance with college tuition, etc.  I thought it sounded like a good idea, something that might help to build character in young people and encourage and foster the kind of behavior we saw after 9/11, when Americans helped each other and showed the world what we're made of when it comes to helping each other.  To offer a young person financial help for college in exchange for some volunteer hours, I thought, was great.  Equally great, I thought, was the notion that this was voluntary and NOT mandatory.


Now, it's apparently for everyone, including seniors, which is still okay, I guess, if this is something that some seniors want to do.


However, one little sentence (shown below) is sending up a BIG RED FLAG into my little pea brain, copied below and bolded:


From:  http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show


OpenCongress Summary:
The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act would dramatically increase funding for AmeriCorps and other volunteer programs, including those for seniors and veterans. It also establishes a goal of expanding from 75,000 government-supported volunteers to 250,000, and would increase education funding and establish a summer service program for students, paying $500 (which would be applied to college costs) to high-school and middle-school student who participate.


In its current form, the legislation does not include a mandate requiring service.


Quite frankly, I have jumped (like a frog) from link to link to link trying to research this, so I'm not sure what its "current form" is today.  It apparently was passed by the House and now by the Senate just a few days ago (see http://loungedaddy.us/?p=725).


Yesterday, at first, when I heard of Rick Wagoner, GM's "sacrificial lamb," basically being fired by Obama, I felt very uncomfortable with that.  After I thought about it more, though, I do agree that ANY company that accepts financial aid from Americans should be scrutinized, including, if necessary in this manner (even if Wagoner's firing, in my opinion, was merely symbolic and not substantive).  What sticks in my crawl is the fact that Wall Street crooks have been treated like kings while auto industry workers are being kicked more and more every day while they're down.


I was never comfortable with any of the bailouts, and that was the one thing that Obama voted for that earned him a spot on the "negative" column of my pros and cons list.


I freely admit that my thought processes have been severely hampered recently (especially after two hospitalizations in less than a month).  It's much more difficult for me to concentrate and to word-find at times.  I had hoped that Obama would be the "people's" President (as opposed to Bush being the "corporation's" President.


I used to think (and frequently wrote) that the Clintons and the Bushes were merely opposite sides of the same coin.  I still believe that; however, I'm starting to think that Obama's face has replaced Hillary's face on that coin now.


If I'm misinformed or otherwise wrong in anything I've written in this post regarding the links I included or statements, please tell me.  Seriously.  I don't want to argue or fight or name-call.  I just want to discuss because I'm beginning to feel almost as vulnerable and distrustful of Obama's presidency as I eventually became under Bush's.


I know discussions get heated on this board sometimes, but I'm not trying to be argumentative.  I'm much, much too tired for that. 


To sum it up, on this day and at this time, all I can truly say with certainty is:


RIBBIT!!!!