Pure garbage. I actually think the repubs leaked that...sm
Posted By: nm on 2008-09-23
In Reply to: Here is what I understand - New Englander
personal baloney about Sarah to gain her the sympathy vote.
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I investigated this and your allegations are pure garbage. nm
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They knew very well it would be leaked and intended for it to be leaked.
Someone in the White House (Obama's advisors are truly incompetent) thought this would suppress attendance at the tea parties. And who knows, maybe it did deter some people from coming out. Even so, attendance is simply amazing...and, as someone said, without any ACORN buses either.
Garbage is garbage - no matter how many people watch it
Call a spade a spade.
Garbage out, garbage back at you. You should know about
You do it all the time.
Look at who it was leaked to.
And et AL did not report on it; they twisted it into something that would serve their ends.
Who leaked it? The answer:
*We've established a foreign terrorist asset tracking center at the Department of the Treasury to identify and investigate the financial infrastructure of the international terrorist networks.* (September 24, 2001, George W. Bush, President of the United States)
*We have begun to act to block assets to seize books, records and evidence and to follow audit trails to track terror cells poised to do violence to our common interests.* (November 7, 2001, Paul O'Neill, Secretary of the United States Treasury)
I disagree. I think it was leaked
increase the outrage and boost attendance at the protests. It certainly got a lot of people here up in arms.
I did not say Rush & Co. leaked it.
Roger Hedgecock. Are you saying the Obama administration, who had no part in doing the study (these things take time folks) were intelligent enough to anonymously distribute it to someone in the blogosphere close enough it's epicenter to get noticed but not so far away that it would be discounted automatically? If so, you attribute far more intelligence to them than most of the posters here.
I have seen no outrage over the previous similar releases regarding rightwing extremists or the leftwing extremists or the Muslim extremists here before when those reports came out. Why the outrage now?
Interesting how it was leaked to the press
These types of studies are typically not for public consumption, but the timing of this one was just perfect for some manufactured outrage based on intentional misconstruing of the contents of the study.
Sounds like an excuse for it being okay for Obama to have leaked this...nm
Your friend Obama does not want that part leaked.
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It was leaked to the Wall Street Journal, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Assuming you have one?
Pure hysteria, much of what you say.
I might also add, that as a casual observor, your hatred of conservatives, or as you so sweetly call them *CONS* is very evident. It's ludicrous to deny it. Anyone who does not agree with you, even when they are not of the political persuasian you accuse them of being, they are labeled and you send up a cry to the moderator and THEN you insult the moderator! LOL. You duplicity is quite obvious. Except, perhaps, to you. Let the flames begin!
Pure Class.
Adults acting like children once again. Proves my point every time.
That's pure propaganda
Right down to the music that is being played in the background. Anyone can take bits and pieces of articles and flash them on the screen. Those aren't facts.
The democrates did not cause the financial crisis. Here are some real facts:
Since 1960 the nation's deficit has risen during every republican administration and dropped during every democratic administration.
The standard of living and income has improved for everyone in the country during every democratic administration since 1960, EVEN for the top 1% of the country. It has gotten worse for everyone in the country during every republican adminstration EXCEPT the top 1%.
While Nixon and Ford were in office interest rates for mortgages had ballooned to 11%-13% and many people in this country could not afford to buy a home. Carter brought those rates down so that more people in this country could afford to buy homes.
What caused this mess is not the people who were extended credit. Here is part of what caused it: Banks issued subprime mortgages to people at a rate they could initially afford but which would increase to an inflated rate after a period of time. Those banks then immediately sold those mortgages at the inflated rates to other banks. First-time home buyers were especially targeted. A lot of them didn't understand what they were getting into because it was misrepresented to them. They didn't know, for example, they could not refinance for a period of time without huge penalities. Then the market started to decline and many of those homeowners found themselves upside down on their loans and they were unable to refinance. Their interest rates had ballooned to rates they could no longer afford. As homeowners lost their homes the banks who were sold the loans at inflated prices were no longer able to collect on those loans. But the banks (and the CEOs) that initated those loans walked away with a great deal of money.
It was because of greed. And the deregulation that the republicans passed allowed it to happen.
pure supposition and
not supported by any available information.
That's because it is pure hogwash.
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You are a liar, pure and simple
While parts of this may be from a court brief, they are taken wholly out of context and your entire posting is a cut and paste from a neocon website article. Time to 'fess up!
Your source of "facts" will always be totally different from the liberal board's source of facts so we are never going to agree on much of anything in general. SO therefore we cannot debate.
Pure trash from beginning to end.
Are you not aware how old this smear campaign is and how ineffective it has been thus far? Though it seems like a couple of lifetimes ago, I do recall it being around at least as far back as February. It was kept alive all the way up until Obama successfully clenched the nomination of his party despite the Hannity cult's diligence to make it stick. It finally faded out after their original mission had failed miserably and he emerged from the primaries on top. You can post this stupidity until the end of time but it isn't going to accomplish anything except to make you look like the ignorant, out of touch bigot that you are, marginalize the fringe that subscribes to these beliefs and make your own party look like fools.
I am a WASP American who has many more Moslem friends than Christians for reasons that would be a waste of time to explain to someone with such a narrow, tiny brain. My relationship to that community spans more than 5 decades and my life has been enriched tenfold because of it. I have traveled there, lived amongst them, married into a Moslem family, born Christian children from that union and buried a few along the way. I speak 2 of their languages, have read the Quran, their literature and appreciated their extensive historical contributions to the arts, music and the sciences.
I have lost count of how many of them I have known. I can tell you they are an intelligent, educated and spiritual people. They have family values every bit as strong as Americans and an even stronger sense of community. They take pride in humility and honor. In all those many years, never ONCE have I known a terrorist among them. I know they are out there and I know that unfortunately the politicized version of Islam is every bit as ugly as the politicized version of Chritianity.
It makes no difference whether Obama is a Christian with Moslem ties or a Moslem who has converted (which he is not). As a matter of fact, I have also known many Moslems who have converted, but Obama is not one of them. He is a remarkable human being and this country is blessed to have him as a choice for leadership in this election. What I can tell you is that the ugly, bigoted sentiments expressed here are universally repulsive to all people of faith. Today, you have made me feel ashamed to call myself a Christian.
Because it's a lie, pure, plain and simple...
We do have free speech but it is wrong to make things up about people. Didn't your mom teach you that? The stuff about Palin and Bush are facts. What you put about Obama being compared to Hitler is trouble making slander and liable and hateful. I won't even respond to you anymore on this board because it gives attention to a person who doesn't deserve it. All I can say is OBAMA WON AND THAT MEANS THE MAJORITY WANTED HIM SO TOUGH NOOGIES.
What a load of pure dung! nm
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Hmmmm, pure dung? Definitely an
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Read between the lines....pure sarcasm.....nm
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Eden Pure Heater answer
We had one last year for the bedroom. It died a week after the warranty ran out. Didn't last a full winter and we only turned it on 2 hours before going to bed.
Try getting in touch with them. Couldn't find a phone number. Found the ad and wrote a letter. Never heard a thing.
This is brainwashed hogwash, pure and simple.
You've been lied to since the get-go; 1948, to be precise.
Pure Race Definition: One Without Neglect & Abuse
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Pure entertainment (or possibly not) see link inside...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,415441,00.html
Disgusting! Pure racism and fear tactics. nm
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Thanks...glad you could see it for what it was. Star Wars, pure and simple...nm
Love that race card. Pure class. sm
This is coming from someone who trained at the gym for 2 years with a black guy. Yeah, I'm racist, all right.
Like Bill Clinton said, "they played the race card from the bottom of the deck!"
Just when you think Repubs
http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,1106213,00.html
Saturday, Sep. 17, 2005
Looking for a Corpse to Make a Case
Senators look for a wealthy casualty of Katrina as evidence against the estate tax
By MASSIMO CALABRESI
Federal troops aren't the only ones looking for bodies on the Gulf Coast. On Sept. 9, Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions called his old law professor Harold Apolinsky, co-author of Sessions' legislation repealing the federal estate tax, which was encountering sudden resistance on the Hill. Sessions had an idea to revitalize their cause, which he left on Apolinsky's voice mail: [Arizona Sen.] Jon Kyl and I were talking about the estate tax. If we knew anybody that owned a business that lost life in the storm, that would be something we could push back with.
If legislative ambulance chasing looks like a desperate measure, for the backers of repealing the estate tax, these are desperate times. Just three weeks ago, their long-sought goal of repeal seemed within reach, but Katrina dashed their hopes when Republican leaders put off an expected vote. After hearing from Sessions, Apolinsky, an estate tax lawyer who says his firm includes three multi-billionaires among its clients, mobilized the American Family Business Institute, a Washington-based group devoted to estate tax repeal. They reached out to members along the Gulf Coast to hunt for the dead.
It's been hard. Only a tiny percentage of people are affected by the estate tax—in 2001 only 534 Alabamans were subject to it. And for Hill backers of repeal, that's only part of the problem. Last year, the tax brought in $24.8 billion to the federal government. With Katrina's cost soaring, estate tax opponents need to find a way to make up the potential lost income. For now, getting repeal back on the agenda may depend on Apolinsky and his team of estate-sniffing sleuths, who are searching Internet obituaries among other places. Has he found any victims of both the hurricane and the estate tax? Not yet, Apolinsky says. But I'm still looking.—with reporting by Amanda Ripley/Washington
And the Repubs don't?
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America most certainly won. What planet have you all been living on for the past eight years??? The last administration did NOTHING for us. How do you think we got in this big mess - you really have to stop watching Fox noise and start looking at all the facts.
Repubs love that pig sty!
Let the dukey fly,I say - there was too much one-sided flinging back in the 90s and the Cons weren't the ones getting dirty.
What I find really amusing is that the Cons want to smirk and say go ahead and indict - we'll just indict you for all your nasty little crimes too! - as if that's a bad thing:) Repubs don't seem to realize that the Dems don't support criminality in their leaders the way Cons worship it in their own.
Asking Repubs to use imagination?
Exercise in futility - as you can see by the comments below, they don't seem interested in imagining what is happening to their own country. Actually sometimes I think they don't give a XXXX. Spying on Americans, arresting dissenters, confirming activist judges with pro-corporate, pro-governmental-power agendas, trashing the Constitution in favor of fabricated time of war emergency - all that's just dandy. Goes right along with how they think the USA should be. Why bother themselves to imagine where all this leads?
And, why bother themselves to consider what major role they are playing in assisting and abetting the murder of America?
La de da, all's great in Bushworld - why think at all?
Filibustering is what repubs do best.
I see this on the other message boards as well, I believe it is actually coordinated, to monopolize the discussion, to sway undecided voters maybe or convince themselves that we are the ones who are wrong.
It is exasperating. I block most of them when I can and do not engage unless someone writes "I'd vote for George again in a second." Then, well, I have to slap them with a response but it is hopeless, they don't even hear.
There are two Americas now, the rich and the poor, the pro-choice and pro-"what happens in your uterus is my business and don't you forget it."
Best advice: Do not engage.
This is bulls**t. Pure and simple. But you guys LOVE the troops. News flash. SM
Recruiters are troops.
Repubs always gripe about "politicizing" -
I would venture to guess that the Kings know more than any nay-sayer about politics and how it can affect a life - no reason whatsoever to exclude politics from a service in Mrs. King's honor. And judging by the reactions of the crowd, all comments were received in the spirit offered and were much agreed with and appreciated. You don't give standing ovations otherwise.
In mentioning long, lengthy, hop-on-the-bandwagon, take-every-chance-to-get-your-word-in, excessively drawn-out and tiresomely-exaggerated, politicized and moronic tripe-ridden ceremonies however, one name does come to mind.... Reagan! Now I think he was a decent guy, even if he chose to ignore the sharks and jackals around him who were busy at genocide - but weeks and weeks? Seven hours would have been just fine for that one too, I'm sure you'd agree.
Sheez! How do Repubs defend this?
Boggles the mind! But also learned another curious thing tonight - several people have told me they can't buy any ammunition for their guns, I think they told me AR15's or whatever the civilian model of an M16 is? - they said the rounds are not available by mail or at stores and they are told it's all being stopped at the ports and sent to Iraq. Say what??
Anybody else having a similar experience or know anything else about this? Would be curious to know if the situation in Iraq is really so bad that all civilian ammo has to be confiscated so it can be sent there.
Sounds similar to what some Repubs. were
doing to some Jewish people.
This is one case where the Repubs are in the clear...
this is a Dem mess. Lay it right at the feet of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and the dems who blocked reform on Fannie/Freddie at least 2 times when Alan Greenspan, John Snow, John McCain and the Bush admin telling them this exact thing was going to happen. It is all on video. I would cut them a modicum of slack if they at least admitted it, but oh no...it's all the republicans fault. Geez! How anyone could vote for ANY Democrat this round is beyond me. If I was a Democrat I wouldn't be voting for them either. At least 92 of them are worried about their jobs because the people are so PO'ed about it...they voted against it. And had Pelosi not come out BEFORE the vote tearing the hide of republicans in strips and blaming them for it yet again...she messed in her own nest. A bunch of Republicans weren't going to vote for it anyway, but the ones who would have didn't.
Need advice from Dems and Repubs sm
I am a swing voter. I am one who is on the fence about who to vote for. Here is my problem. I am finding that this year's presidential election is separating people. Republicans seem to be a little angrier lately since Obama leads in the pools. Dems are not as angry BUT they are very firm in their political choice. I am finding that I cannot have a discussion with anyone about this election. If I say anything about Palin, repubs jump all over me. If I question Biden, dems are horrified. I do want to vote. I will figure it all out through my own research. My question for everyone today is how do I stay friends with people during all this? Any words of advice will be appreciated as I found my self in tears this morning.
None of the repubs can spell..!!! It's "despicable." nm
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Voter suppression is not just done by Repubs.
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The repubs were rabid right before the election and sm
I decided to leave until I could come back and rub it in. Here I am to all those who had their fake "poll" saying McCain would win... I am laughing so hard and you know.. he who laughs last, laughs best. WE WON WE WON WE WON... you were WRONG. Obama DID WIN.
Wow, I guess repubs really can't handle a little
You would prefer the rovian style of of GWB & DC dishonest fearmongering to fact? O is not offering up some mushroom cloud ultimatum of do it his way or face doom. He is simply proffering that things are probably going to get worse before they get better, which is also what any reputable economist is saying. There is no quick fix for what we have allowed to happen to our country.
Because the repubs are anti abortion nm
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Yahoo! And now all the repubs are going to squirm because they say....sm
The Iraq war was not a republican idea... the Iraq war was not about oil. Even dopey Palin admitted it was for oil.
THANK GOD WE HAVE OBAMA to get us right with the world!
Dont expect FOX Repubs to understand
your post, which was mostly right on!
Anyone who can watch FOX and *not* see the blatent attempt to TELL ITS VIEWERS what they want to hear INSTEAD of the truth must be downright stoopid. Come on get a clue: The 'teleprompter readers' just get prettier while the content gets more embarrassing. Are Americans THAT easily manipulated?
For the record though ALL MAINSTREAM media is purposefully designed to keep Americans ignorant about what is really going on - no wonder much of the rest of the world has such disdain for us: We are often not only wilfully ignorant in this country, we're arrogant about it to boot!
Question: When repubs. speak (or write), why is every
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This is the reason repubs are trying to bash Acorn sm
Acorn had paid people signing up new voters. The people signed up a lot of fakes because they were paid by the number of new voters they signed on. The fakes cannot vote so there is no threat. What the repubs are building a case about is that Acorn is criminal (which they are NOT) and repubs want to throw out all those millions of new voters. Because the landslide is going to be so humiliating. Even throwing out Acorn wouldn't help McCain.
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