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Ron Paul scares the living daylights out of me. He is

Posted By: quite a racist. on 2008-02-05
In Reply to: Obama et. al. - Ozarkmtmama

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scares me too

It is statements like below along with his blatant disregard for International Law and lack of respect for legally elected officials in soverign countries that scares the heck out of me.  Throughout history, there have always been naysayers, people with blinders on who dont realize what is really going down until it is too late and it has affected them also, ergo, this statement:


*First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
    because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
    because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
    because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.*


"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)


-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"


"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.


-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000


"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.


-- Business Week, July 30, 2001


You know what scares me....
A man who wants to:  1)  Turn us into a socialist society.  2) Who thinks when a baby comes out alive in a botched abortion, you can still get rid of it!!!  3)  Who is "friends" with people who hate our country and what it stands for.  Just these few things I mentioned ought to scare you death!!!  Palin in no way, shape or form even compares to this. 
What scares you?
His color or his name?
This is what scares me
His name does not draw the Muslim card, his background and history does. His being a past Muslim does. His trying to hide it does. His trying to hide the fact that our taxes are going to go up scares me. I'm always the first to argue with someone he's half white. A lot of people forget that. So forget the race thing. What scares me is how far he's trying to distance himself from his past. What scares me is he isn't being truthful (although that shouldn't scare me because the last presidential candidate that was truthful was Ronald Regan - everyone after that went downhill). What scares me is the democrats are panicking so bad they are grasping at straws and attacking for no good reason. They are saying she was for the bridge when they were for the bridge. They are saying she is not experienced when he is not experienced. They are acusing her of being everything that he is. Their words are a reflection of themselves. What I fear is having a democratic president and congress. I'm afraid my taxes will double if not more with another democratic president like the last time they did with Clinton. I'm afraid our rights are going to be dwindled away as citizens as the democrats slowly turn our country into a socialist state. I am scared our health care system will be turned into a socialist health care system and I won't have the freedom to go to whatever doctor I choose. I'm afraid that he's going to give Hillary a job doing something. I'm afraid that the 2nd ammendment will be taken away from us as we are all just lowly americans who cling to guns.

So - that is what I'm afraid of with him. Too many men have promised us this and that and never delivered. Bush and Clinton being the biggest two. I don't trust any of them.
this is what scares me
Ronald Reagan - "the most truthful President"?  What in tarhooties have you been smoking??  Remember Iran-Contra and his buddy Ollie North (who was never brought to trial for his misdeeds)...Reagan one step away from being Richard Nixon?  PUHLEEZE!!
what scares me the most
is that if this man could actually be voted into the office. Do people not know or do they not want to know or do they not understand we are talking socialism, then communism here? What is wrong with people? What scares me is how do we get this information out to the public? I am not finding alot of this stuff anywhere other than on this board so I know that means other people are not seeing it either. I tell this stuff to my husband, relatives and friends, and they do not know anything about it. All they know is what they see and hear on TV and radio, and wow, am I sick of the biased media. And I don't want to have to go down that road because other people didn't do the work of checking out the candidates fully.
I'm not a pub and he scares the h@ll out of me
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You know what scares me?
Is that there were enough people in Minnesota that actually voted for Franken that there had to be a recount! I mean, I'm not a Dem-basher, but AL Franken? Seriously?
scares me...
and that Chavez is calling him "comrade Obama."
Obama scares me so much more
In watching him speak, I never feel secure, as if he is really just for show and no real substance. Also, to say all the things some of you say about McCain. Well, what about the people Obama has as friends in present and past?  Do HIS associations and his character not matter to you? What about his comments regarding religion/guns. What about his "been to 57 states" comment?  All I hear from him policy-wise is he would raise taxes (and not just on the rich!) and "provide" health insurance for every American. (we all know nothing is free in reality). Besides, no president can take total care of us and our individual needs. Our president MUST protect the country first and foremost, right?  ..and as much as I am not a McCain fan, I would trust him far and above Obama on that issue.
That is one of the things that scares them most...
if they are elected it is validation that the majority of Americans still believe in God and don't mind it if someone says so. Obama professes to be a Christian and I don't see them dissecting him. Perhaps because they believe that is just another lie...?
your mentality very much scares me
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Answer the question - what scares you?
If it is not his name (which always draws the MUSLIM card) - then it must be his race (he is half white, by the way). If not - ENLIGHTEN me, I am truly curious.
no, YOUR attitude is what scares sensible people.
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O scares the heck out of me. Not because of race
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well dubya speaks like a child and he scares the
is what counts and clearly Dubya is lacking in that department and Obama is not.
What, a strong, conservative woman scares you?
nm
Feel just the opposite. O scares the crap out of me.nm
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If his tax plan scares you, check out his Global Poverty Act. Link inside.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56405
where im currently living is okay... but
Nevada is hit HARD. South Carolina is doing fine as far as i can tell, but ive only been here two months.

my problem is my mortgage is in Nevada... so in turn, im not doing so great either.

hope everyone is doing as good as they can!
WOW! Then you are definitely living

in the wrong place and at the wrong time.  Because from here on, you'll be told exactly what to do and when, and probably how you're supposed to feel about it. 


Told what amount of money it is 'seemly' for you to earn, how much you MUST surrender to maintain the lifestyles of others, and how much you may be permitted to keep - if you promise to spend it properly.  Told how much energy it is politically correct for you to use (please drive an approved vehicle) and what modern conveniences it is more 'green' to do without.  Told not to think too much: 'The science is settled.  The debate is over.'  Told what medical tests and procedures it will be proper for you to receive and which (so very sorry) it would be better for society as a whole for you to forego, because there is only so much to go around.  Told for your own good what to eat and taxed extra on the improper items you choose.  (Unless, apparently, you receive food stamps, in which case limiting your choice would be unnecessarily judgmental.)


Perhaps some will see all this as gentle correction from a benevolent parent, but this micromanagement sneaking in incrementally cloaked in a smily face will not really make me feel better about being told what to do.


They ain't living unless they are being condescending

and down right vulgar (hence the expletives tonight).  You're right.. the only time they have anything going here is when we come over.  They have nothing constructive to talk about when they aren't looking down their noses at conservatives who question their statements or bashing Bush.  It's a big yawnfest


That's why I'm using the moniker leftist/lib basher.  The best way to rile them up is to call them by what they call themselves.  Oh, wait a minute.  They're progressives now.  They'll be progressives until we call them that then they'll say we're calling them names and change it again.  Yes, they have tender widdle feelings.


What I do for a living is immaterial...
although since I post on this forum it should be obvious I am in the transcription industry. What is to you if I reply to every post? Did I miss the meeting where that was outlawed or you were named moderator?

What makes you think I don't put my energy toward making a difference? Whether I do or not is also immaterial...and with all due respect...none of your business.

Do you not believe in freedom of speech? If you don't like my posts, don't read them.


Your living in your own little world
Anyone who doesn't believe this is happening are living in their own world. Am sure you probably believe what the government tells you also. We are living in end times, however, the religious fanatics need to cool it as a lot of people don't believe in the "left behind" garbage that is spewed. Another prime example of lies to keep the people preoccupied.
Some of us have to make a living.
Got kids. Need to cook and clean and transcribe, balance the checkbook, pay bills, clip coupons and grocery shop, feed the kitties, watch news and fact check to stay informed. Chat room cat fights are low priority for me, especially with posters like yourself and sam, unlike those who stay ready to pounch 24/7.
i saw that too. she is living proof
that a fetus is more than a glob of cells.
For those that feel that way, try living in another
A country that has been divided and divided again but still always one trying to overthrow the other. Remember Georgia? Russian leaders can't leave them alone. Georgia separated and became their own country but still their neighbors want to continually cause them trouble..... the U.S. can't go that way unless you don't mind that kind of war in your own back yard.

You need to do some history study of nations that have split and all they do is war, not because the majority of people don't want peace, but because they leaders of each individual country always seems to be greedy and want to rule EVERYONE, not just their own country.
What does living in the northeast have to do with anything...
it's expensive pretty much anywhere you live. Put your kids to work if they are old enough, especially if they go to school, to help pay for that expensive food bill.
And those of us who are conservative are living in fear that...
our courts will further erode our society to the point that everything goes.  Heck, one third of the country already has to live with the notion that their 12-year-old can consent to an abortion without our knowledge (thanks to the 6th circuit court in California, legalize gay marriage without letting "we the people" decide how we want our society (yes, 78% of Americans are against it), and I could go on and on.  Do you like the fact that another priviate citizen can now take your property just because HIS use of that property would generate more income for the government?  Sounds like socialism is rapidly becoming fascism to me.  You can thank the imminent domain decision to those wonderful progressives on the court.  Yes, let's hope we get another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court so our country can continue it's slide down the toilet.
Well, Mr. Clinton isn't living too shabbily himself
I think you better step back and rethink some of your claims before you say that Republicans are the only ones living in luxury etc. A funeral is a funeral not a political soapbox. Carter and Kennedy ought to be ashamed of themselves for making a memorial service into a political bash fest of the President who was sitting right there. How classless. You're absolute hatred of Bush is coming through to the fact that you can't see the mockery that was made of Mrs. King's funeral.

President Carter should be embarassed, but I don't think embarassment is a trait of liberals anymore.

Camera face time, and bashing Bush that's all that matters to them. They are blinded to decorum.
It must be nice living in ignorance. sm
You are certainly entitled to your opinion; however, you don't speak for any  majority anywhere.  None of us do.  You have obviousy not done any research at all into what adult or embryonic stem cell research can and cannot do, what they wish to do, and the dire consequence that have been predicted for stem cell research, including brain tumors. 
looks like a bunch of sheep to me living in USA..sm

hmmmmm....?  Just because everyone is voting for Barack doesn't make any of it right - they all are bad candidates to some of us......


blechhhhhhhhhhhhh


JMO.........no flames required......


What with the rise in the cost of living....(sm)
its hard to make it on just $169,300 a year.....ROFL...they should try working with my budget.
He's just warming up for living life out
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Then how are you making a comfortable living
Husband with better job & income? Otherwise how else would you be for some of the things you believe in, unless you were an MT that actually OWNS a large company?
This coment is living proof - nm
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What would it be like living in a socialist country
Because we know Obama is a far left/socialist and if elected will change the country into a socialist country, can someone please tell us all what exactly that means for us.  Seems too many people are dummed down by the TV reality shows that they don't pay enough attention to what is going on.  So...because it's a fact about Obama, what will that mean for our country and what difficulties will be be facing.
i pay off my cards EVERY month, living
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You are living in a parallel universe where
and vanising middle-class citizens get the shaft.
Can you imagine living in a red state, and
having to walk down your street every day, knowing most, if not all, of your neighbors thought that way? Where trying to have an actual conversation with anyone would be like talking to a brick wall? Where you figure all the moms & dads sitting in bleachers at your kid's little league came probably wear white sheets at night? Brrrrrrrr.......
Gives me the heebie-jeebies.
Sorry to hear you are living in a world where
people who embrace it are deemed as suspicious, subversive liars. Good luck on getting people to believe in THAT gloomy forecast.

I've not been taken in. I am old but can still remember when I took great pride in being an American. I sat by in silent dismay as I watched W and his cronies divide us and dismantle the America I come from with his "for us or against us" mentality, post-911 visions that would usher in a new American colonial era, the slaughter of our civil liberties with the Patriot Act, and the erosion of our unity and common sense of purpose.

I watched the candidates present thier visions, and made a clear and educated choice as to who I trust to return us to where we were and restore the America I want for my son.

Once more...no amount of negativity you throw in my direction is going to change my resolve to continue this fight to take our country back from those who I believe came very close to destroying it.
As opposed to a living human being
raped, murdered, beaten,and tortured. I'm sorry, I find that much more atrocious.
Living in the land of Camelot
I have a hard time believing anyone alive during JFK's administration could still believe that fairytale. He most definitely was not one of the greatest leaders of all time.

But you're right about Obama inspiring millions in much the same way, and I certainly agree that he will be transformational.
I guess you don't like living - see message
Living in a safer country than what it was when Clinton was in.

I guess you don't like lower taxes than when the last democratic president/congress was in.

I guess you don't like the freedoms America gives us.

I guess you don't mind paying higher taxes while the rich corporate greedy you know whats keep their $90million and more bonus (from the help of the democrats) while the rest of us gets taxed higher so they can keep theirs.

I guess you don't mind living in socialism.
You are living in some high a.. place and I wish
the lake front property I sold about a year or so ago had gone per acre what they said yours was worth, oops, lacking $10 it did sell for that much. Am not good with math. The taxes on that were not much, thank goodness because my own home taxes were quite high. Seems like when 1 place comes down (or off) then somewhere else taxes it back on. Close to me in Atlanta last year water restrictions on due to drought- people followed and now the rates for water have gone up.
O lovers just living in denial..... he has let them go
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I actually really like Ron Paul...

I plan to vote for Barack Obama (bash him if you want - I cannot be swayed!), but I checked out Ron Paul's website awhile back, and it seems like he has a pretty great record.  I wouldn't mind if he got elected.  I think both Obama and Paul seem to have one great quality in common - integrity!!  People can call me foolish if they want, but I go with my gut feeling a lot through life (serving me well so far), and I have a good feeling about both of these men.  They seem like decent, honest men - well, honest for politicians at least. :)


I like Obama because he talks about the things that mean the most to my family, and I really think he has what it takes to bring our divided nation back together somewhat, but if a Republican makes it to office, I hope it's Paul.


Exactly what Ron Paul has said over and
He has repeatedly tried to remind everyone of our constant intrusion into the middle east, invading their soil and they resent us for that. Oil, oil, oil is the reason and I am still amazed at how so many people still believe that is not the reason we're over there. Carter screwed up so bad decades ago and things have just gotten worse since. Obama doesn't know squat about middle eastern affairs and it scares me to death to think he could possibly be running this country one day.
Ron Paul.....
Not nominated because he went against everything the government bureaucracy wanted. He wanted VERY LIMITED government, NO taxes on individual citizens, do away with the IRS, stop taking away civil rights, NO national ID, free markets, and here's the kicker, return to SOUND MONETARY POLICIES. Now, that's why he wasn't nominated but look at the crap hole we're in now.

He never has gone alone with capitol hill's garbage and has stood up against them at every turn.

He has preached the coming of this very thing which we are bailing corporate greed's sorry butts out right now and they just scoff, smirk, and laugh at him.

I sat on this board and read harsh comments about him but yet most of them had to do with nothing more than his age. The very things they are screaming about now are the very things he warned again and again about and begged us to be involved in what is going on with our government and police THEM, not the other way around. But no, we end up with Obama and McCain. What a trade off.
So, do you think Ron Paul is serious

candidate or just a wasted vote?  I'm not liking neither Obama nor McCain at this point, and I've been researching Ron Paul a little bit.  I don't know that I'm leaning towards him, just curious if he has a viable chance in this election. 


It seems worthless to vote for someone you know won't get enough of the votes to actually win the thing.  Any thoughts?  Does Ron Paul have enough supporters to get voted in?


Ron Paul
Yes, he has never veered one bit from his beliefs. He is not swayed by lobbylists and the good ole boy system... he has continued to try to speak for America but sadly enough to deaf ears. Everybody wants tax relief but when this man said he would do everything he could to get the IRS abolished, were there any takers? Yea, but not by the mainstream media. You rarely got to see him on there. At the very least, he would have given us a flat tax. I don't hear either candidate talking flat tax, which would be a very quick fix with lasting benefits. But, of course, that's too easy....government couldn't afford all the crap they're used to dishing up for us.