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O lovers just living in denial..... he has let them go

Posted By: simple as that! NM on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: Where does it say he will be prosecuted? - Lu

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Obviously you are so far in denial...
and so set on what you perceive IS the truth and your perception that I do not want to know the truth that you cannot read what is in plain sight. I think that anyone who is not so blinded by hatred can see that if I say I want impeachment so we can ALL indeed know the truth, and somehow you spin THAT into I am terrified at what would come out of those chambers is ludicrous. And the saddest thing about it is that you cannot see how ludicrous it really is.

You should be aiming all this vitriol at this committee holding all these secret meetings instead of holding open hearings. They are the ones who won't impeach. Not MY fault they won't impeach. I WELCOME that. Let's get them all under oath and all this evidence out in the open where we can ALL see it.

Bottom line, anonymous poster....I don't know if he is guilty or not and you don't either. Talk about a a rush to judgment...what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?? You trampled all over that basic American right didn't you? You have already pronounced him guilty. There is not a shred of fair debate in YOU on this subject. That should be crystal clear to anyone who had the time to go through all this mess.

You know, if in your mind when someone says they want impeachment means they are terrified of the truth, if that makes you feel better and validates your line of thinking on this, so be it.

But if you are really serious about all this endless stuff you keep posting, you should be lobbying your congresspeople to impeach so we can put everyone under oath, both sides, give the accused a fair trial (a basic American right) and to face his accusers, and put this mess behind us once and for all. What about that terrifies YOU??? And what about that terrifies THEM?? You have no answer, I'm sure, in your mind me calling for impeachment and not the endless hearing political exercise, the terrified one. Who's on first? LOL...ridiculous.

You never DID answer my question, and that speaks volumes.

'Nuff said. This is a dead thread, Fred. :)
Denial, denial, denial

It's called living in the Land of Oz.  I'm embarrassed for y'all, who are too ignorant to do your own research. 


Just pitiful socialists.  I hope y'all enjoy making less $ next year in the event Obama wins.  Run the numbers for yourself.  Better yet, run it by your CPA.  Yet, all I ever read here is how much less $ everyone makes literally constantly.


It's all emotion.   But funny how there's no emotion about aborting a baby on  moment's notice.


Shame, shame.


You are in such denial.
the CHANGE come. 
Maybe denial is one of his 57 states.
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He's right, we're all in denial

Proactive old-school people lived in a different world.  They were raised with different values, that they learned from the small circle of people around them in their families and communities, prior to a media driven society.  They had confidence born of being doers and fixers.


Sadly, they're speaking to a hostile audience, as each generation appears to become more apathetic and helpless.  Our values have shifted.  We consume and dispose, we don't plan and preserve, or heaven forbid, repair or do without.  We spend and do not save.  We accept and follow blindly whatever we are told.  We question nothing, because then we might have to DO something or change.  So much easier to go with the flow, wherever it takes us.


We don't want to see cause and effect.  We don't want to see it when we are part of the problem.  If the struggle to survive doesn't take up all our time, we're so busy obsessing over our looks and possessions (or that of celebrities) we can't be bothered to notice what's wrong, why its wrong, and what to do about it.  Fads and entertainment are all we appear enthused about.  We don't know why we're in a war, and we don't really care.  We don't know why the bank just sent us more fine print in the mail, we'll just shrug and pay the higher charges, OK, whatever.  We don't know why so many things are spiraling out of control, we'll just go back to our TV and assume there's nothing we can do about it.


Sure, it would be great if we could find a hero to fix it all for us.  As long as that hero didn't ask us to change.  The possibility that you or I could be that hero is just not going to cross our minds.  Meanwhile, we'll accept whoever volunteers for the job of running things, and not worry too much about what agendas motivate them. 


no pie for you...just denial...that reminds me of...
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You are so right, and the longer more the denial goes on . . . .
the quicker their extinction.  YEA
Delusions and denial tremendous help
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Denial won't turn those numbers around.
I wouldn't expect too much out of the debate tomorrow either, especially McC caves and makes good on his threat to talk about Ayers. Can you say plunging numbers?
I feel sorry for you. You are so in denial. Better buy this lightbulbs.nm

Denial like this will land you in the same place
GOP needs to come to terms with where it went wrong, starting with a healthy dose of truth, washed down with a gallon of circumspection. Dems BTDT. If you need any pointers, just ask. BTW, it would be helpful for you to try the realize just which party the American people held responsible by taking another look at the election results.
Whoops, I mean the longer their denial . . . .
but I'm sure my point is made.  Now go ahead, Flamers!
And you are so deep in denial a forklift couldn't....
drag you out. Repeat after me: ohhhhbaaaamaaaa.

Gag me is right!!
Denial is where we belong in the face of such lies.
you cannot turn these lies into truth.
I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out
You people deny that the dems are responsible for the housing crisis.  Do some objective research!!  They most certainly DID cause the crisis!  You deny that the voter fraud from ACORN is a big deal, and that they are not trying to sway the election to any particular side!!!  There were over 200,000 fraudulent votes in Ohio alone!!  I was watching on CNN about this (the station that NEVER says anything negative towards liberals), and they were even talking about what a huge problem this is.  They showed a ballot with the name of Jimmie Johns.  They found the address, and it was Jimmie Johns restaurant - and there are 10s of thousands of ballots like this.  And who worked for ACORN?  Yup - the people's Messiah Obama.  And somehow you all will find a way to minimize this and twist the facts, and probably blame me for telling this to you...
Your deep-seated denial is purely pathlogic and
is very telling about how hard you work to keep yourself insulated from the truth. There is no reason for Palestinians to exaggerate the atrocious fatality figures. Besides that, a survey of multiple new sources both inside and outside the US reveal these figures are amazingly consistent. They are compiled by hospital and (nonpartisan) humanitarian workers and the Red Crescent (the Middle East's equivalent to the Red Cross) which services the entire region, including Israel. The figures are notoriously CONSERVATIVE estimates, reflecting reported deaths and nearly always are later replaced with high numbers once the dust settles on the carnage.

"Their word against ours?" How childish can you get? This statement strongly implies a person who is interested in covering up the truth rather than getting to it. Why would you do that? Who is "ours?" WE are eyewitness to nothing, except a sanitized version of US mainstream media war reporting.

Actually see the bodies? Ever since Viet Nam, we have not had access to those images because the government learned that if you show the carnage, it turns the tide of public opinion against the war.

Be careful what you ask for. I can hook you up with some links.
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/12/29/updated-gaza-massacre-photo-gallery/
http://palestinethinktank.com/2008/12/27/haitham-sabbah-photos-of-the-day/
http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2009/January/2%20o/Gaza%20Massacre%20in%20Pictures,%20January%202,%202009.htm

About that hiding behind women and children crack/statement which you are parroting from the lying media mouthpieces. Gaza is the 6th most densely populated area in the world. There are 10,792 people per square mile in Gaza. Gaza is an occupied territory which has been blockaded for the past 18 months by Israel. There is no escape. There is no way out. And there is no possible way that Hamas (who live in Gaza and are citizens themselves) can NOT be among the civilian population. Weapons in mosques? Maybe. Maybe not. Where's the proof? This is the claim of the occupier. Sorry, I need convincing.

You're right. Bad guys don't always wear uniforms. Some of them wear suits and hide behind big impressive titles like prime minister, president, chairman and the like.
So jealous, in denial and wrong again OBAMA ROCKS BABY!!!! WE WON YAY!!!! nm
sour grapes
All Bush's fault....good grief....talk about denial...
Fannie and freddie? Ring a bell? BarneyRubble on the finance committee who said (on video) why there is nothing to worry about! Fannie is sound...and even if it wasn't, the government wouldn't bail them out....ROFL. DEMOCRAT. Bush Admin and John McCain in particular years ago telling them a crisis was looming but BarneyRubble and his crew not only did nothing, they encouraged Fannie to loan even more to people who had no prayer of paying it back...with credit rating less than 0. So tell me again how it was Bush's fault...do you realize how silly that makes your post sound? Get real???? COME ON. LOL. Obama is trying...trying what? To turn us into a welfare state for sure? Yup. Throwing us down the slippery slope of socialism? Yup. Not only trying, people like you are helping him. Well, enjoy is all I can say. Glad I didn't vote for him. This is all you folks. :)
I throw it right back at you: Blind, in denial, naive, conservative pub...nm
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Again I say...they O lovers DON'T like
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Why don't you come up with something besides "O lovers"?
really annoying.
What's with the O lovers anyway?

Obama represents to democrats an upstanding individual who we believe will be able to bring about a more efficient government and restore credibility to the nation (among other things).  We hope this can be accomplished.  However, when even the slightest hint of a rumor comes along (nevermind the source), you guys are all over it acting like it's true before any facts at all have surfaced.  Because dems defend against this constant tirade of rabid pubs, we are automatically called O worshipers?  Actually, in this case we were called O worshipers in the original post...LOL.


I guess that would make you guys Fox News worshipers.  HAIL TO THE BIG O'REILLY!  -- you know he's selling door mats on his show now...ROFL...can't wait to get that big ticket item.  NOT.


For any and all animal lovers. sm

I am a member of Defenders of Wildlife.  This is a copy of an e-mail to that I was sent about Palin and the wolf hunting.  The link on the bottom is the link to the TV commercial that members donated for to be shown.  I am not sure where all it will be shown but in case it isn't in your area you might want to check it out.  It makes me sad watching it as I love all animals, never wear leather or fur and am vegan.


Hi,


Have you ever heard of aerial hunting? It's a brutal practice. Wolves are shot from low-flying aircraft or chased to exhaustion, then killed at point-blank range.


Governor Sarah Palin, the Republican nominee for Vice President, promotes this barbaric practice, exploiting a loophole in the Federal Airborne Hunting Act to allow private wolf killers to shoot down wolves using aircraft. To encourage the killing, she even proposed a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf!


We have to get the word out about this! Please watch this powerful new television ad by Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund, and then share it with every wildlife lover you know:


http://actionfund.defenders.org/palintvwolf


Oh Obama lovers....it just keeps getting

This just coming out.........former Obama staffer (while working with Obama) now coming out that he sat in a meeting with an Islamic organization in Virginia back in September, in which Mr. Asbahi was present, Obama's liason.  Now that man alone has a very close relationship with Islamic organizations and it just keeps getting deeper.  This Islamic organization has ties with terrorists organizations to include CAIR who was also listed as a coconspirator in terror related groups. 


It just keeps getting more interesting.  For those that doesn't know who Asbahi is, you need to keep your eyes wide open.  Obama is knee deep involved with Muslim and Islamic organizations, even though he has made a point of using his liasons, who are mostly Muslim, to do so now that he is running for President.  


http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3557


 


Believe me, the O lovers on here hate that
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Exactly!! Most O lovers in a delusional
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I think that's what O lovers are afraid of....
Of course she doesn't have the power to single handedly divide the country. She says what she believes and she is either liked or not. Some agree, some do not. I couldnt' care less what she wears or all this other nit picky garbage the O lovers have resorted to out of desperation.

A true sign of desperation is pulling out such ridiculous notions and accusations and worrying about her wardrobe. Who cares? At least her money isn't coming from terrorist organizations to help her fund her wardrobe, campaign, or anything else for that matter.

Too bad O lovers don't care where his funds are coming from. They are afraid to find out because the truth "won't set them free".
Wonder what these Obama lovers will do once he
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Aw, according to the O lovers on this board

that math doesn't equal either. That's why I didn't put Ayers and the rest in the mix. There's enough between the Blago's and Rezko to equal the O.


The post with reading the other document....I saved it and hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to read the whole thing (49 pages!).


I just have to find the time to do all I need to do with Christmas coming up. I'm about stretched to the limit now.


No, you're just in a sea of O lovers ......
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And before the O lovers say it ain't so.... remember
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That's like starting a forum for pet lovers

And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones!  Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive. 


What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present?  How ridiculous!


Obama lovers do not care
They want Obama in office even if he has to buy his way in there and buy votes to boot. They know about the voter fraud going on but do not want to hear about it. They know their candidate is paying a corrupt racist organization that has already had indicted members to buy his votes into office.
You won't get a response.....O lovers hate
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Don't expect any answers from O lovers on this
If Obama hasn't told them, they wouldn't know....they need him to think for them. He won't even give the amount needed to run his social programs, let alone all the other pie in the sky stuff he wants to do, stuff they do in socialist countries where everyone pays through the nose more than us and the government takes care of all of them, like Obama wants to do, take care of all of us while he screws us all over.

Most of those "plans" he has would put so many businesses out of business it is scary to even think about it. All this stuff he wants mandated...well, if small businesses have to enact that garbage, they will go under. Not the rich! The very middle-class he seems to have convinced this O lovers on this board he wants to take care of.
But Obama lovers don't want to talk about the
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Oh those O lovers can't read between the lines
right to the slaughter. He has changed his policies several times. He sways with the wind and gets his advisors to revamp "his" policies every time the wind changes direction. Which is why all those that believe those numbers mean anything, are fooling themselves.
You can't 3.5+ trillion dollars worth of government increase by Obama with those small little amounts the O lovers keep reciting on this board. They're making your case and too dumb to know it.

If it's ONLY a few more dollars, how do they think he can pay 3.5 trillion dollars in government increases with that?

For all those O lovers who jumped on the plumber

Obama stated today, while trying to turn the plumber thing back towards McCain as if he NEVER said "spread the wealth" this.......


"How many of you know a plumber that makes half a million dollars?".  McCain never said that, Obama did.  Obama told the plumber that the business he was looking at buying which may or may not make 250K would be taxed to "spread the wealth" around.  Boy, he's desperate now. 


Now for all those O lovers who have had such a hatred all of a sudden of a "rich" plumber, how ya gonna back peddle on that one?  You and Obama need to get on the same page...... now even Obama says a plumber can't make 250K!  What a joke he is.


 


Still waiting for those O lovers to refute any of this
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narrow minded? yup that is the O lovers
P.S. - last time someone was called stupid they were banned.

You don't like what I have to say fine. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself. No need to be rude - oh wait! Your an O lover. Guess you do feel you have the right to be rude.

As Ben Franklin said, which fits perfectly about your post, .... "Better to keep silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
Exactly! ..and ignorance is bliss to those O lovers
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Oh, but it IS funny! You just dont get it. O lovers
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No, what I seen is O lovers are getting a wakeup call
O lovers have nothing else to say because the majority of the US citizens are saying it loudly with every phone call to the white house and it just ain't looking for for Obama, no matter how much he smiles and tells you everybody wants him......well, they ain't wanting him right now.



Why do O lovers always object, even when the truth
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For all those Obama/Biden lovers.....this bears
Biden's years up there mean nothing to me. The longer you stay, the more jaded and entrenched you become in the very crap we are trying to get outselves out of now, with the exception of a few who have never changed their stance. Years of service do not necessariy equate to good deeds....ya gotta do better than that. The man is so wishy washy on his votes, he'll fly whatever way the wind blows him, which is why he is now running with Obama. Anyhooooo....

He stood shoulder to shoulder with Obama while running for presidential candidacy and said when asked what he thought about Obama....

"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......

"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."

Biden has denounced Obama's poor foreign policy "judgement" over and over and over and in his own words said that "Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be President."

He said Obama was not ready to serve as President. Better yet, let me just list the reasons why Biden is a patsy....

About Obama he said, "Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."

On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."

On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."

Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."

Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).

Now, here he stands alongside the very guy he can't stand. And you think this is an upstanding God fearing lover of his country? This man is no different than Obama; he'll do whatever is necessary to get his foot in the door for an upcoming Presidency, even if that means acceping a VP position from a guy he can't stand, doesn't agree on anything with, and likes his opposition better. Yea, what a deal we got there!!!!!

Your turn....

Good luck trying to convince O lovers they;re
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Oooh, O lovers don't wanna hear that....that's
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Notice how all the O lovers get strangely quiet
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Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers?
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Notice how O lovers got suddenly quiet
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Get off your Obama lovers wagon for two seconds
This has absolutely nothing to do with what party you belong to; it has EVERYTHING to do with your government targeting individuals as "terrorists" simply because they are uprising against their government and saying ENOUGH! This includes democrats as well!

When you see a file put out by your government specifically stating "conservative extremism", what part of that did you overlook? This has only come about since the tea party demonstrations have come about and with the government realizing millions of people are really and truly FED UP with their crap and taxing us into complete submission to the government. I couldn't care less what others think on here and there is no false assumptions made by me.

The writing is in black and white for those that care to read it. There is no assumption by what "conservative extremism" means and for those that don't live in LA la land, they too know exactly what this is.... an absolute violation of American civil rights. This opens the doors for government to turn lose police, national guard, and whatever else THEY deem necessary to shut up those that do not agree with them.

What about protesting do you have a problem with?

This hate Obama jag you're on tells a lot about you. You don't realize this has to do with your government, regardless who is at the helm, which in this case happens to be Obama. If it were Bush, I would be raising cane as well. Government is government, only this time we have someone on a power trip really going full force on running down our rights....