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That's right.. Just keep that wool pulled real tight down over your eyes.

Posted By: libby on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Recycled smear, some of it 2 years old. - It didn't work then. sm

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yes, tell me WHAT is in your eyes a REAL AMERICAN?
Somebody who puts up 100 flags in his home and 10 in his office?
I'm a died-in-the-wool feminist, and have -
I can see through his reasons for picking a woman as Veep. But if things are allowed to continue on the downward spiral America's been on for the past 8 years, we're in big trouble.

In Obama, I see HOPE for middle class America.

In McCain,I see NO HOPE for us at all.
ROFL!! Ewww...my eyes, my eyes! lol/nm
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I'm running on a tight budget, but I will get a pair...sm
so hopefully they will get them a little after Independent Day.

Could Tony Blairs Tight Fist be Coming to a City Near You...sm
I ran across this article today and it explains from British citizens point of view what happens when you allow leadership to dismantle the principles (Constitution) of a nation. I understand the *concept* behind the Patriot Act, wiretapping, and detainee laws (where the president is the decider), but if the public lets the powers that be slip in laws like this with no protest we could find ourselves under arrest and DNA swabbed for not returning a child's ball that landed in your yard.

(Long read but interesting.)


The Way Police Treat Us Verges on Criminal

Guilty until proven innocent now seems to be the watchword of a government that increasingly treats its law-abiding citizens with absolute contempt

Henry Porter
Sunday October 29, 2006
The Observer

A father and his eight-year-old son got off a train at Blackpool on a Friday evening two weeks ago to be confronted by a number of police officers moving passengers towards a scanner. There was a mildly threatening manner about them and it was clear that they expected everyone to pass through the scanner, which they said was being used to search for knives.

The man, whose name is Danny, quietly told the police that unless they had a very good reason, he would not be searched. One or two passengers hesitated, then joined him in refusing to go through the scanner. The police were clearly disgruntled, but couldn't do anything because Danny was right: they had to have reasonable grounds for suspecting he was carrying a knife in order to search him. 'I am not some rabid left winger or civil libertarian,' he wrote in an email to me. 'It just seems we are allowing a police state to be developed without an argument.' On the phone, he seemed to modify this by saying that the police behaviour had been oppressive.

Thank God there are still people like Danny who know the law and understand that part of its fragile essence is the respect for the rights of the innocent citizen when confronted with authority. The British Transport Police may insist that its Operation Shield, as this random trawl is known, is for the common good in that it fights knife crime, but think twice about the attitude it betrays and you realise that it is another small erosion in the esteem for the individual. Such behaviour makes everyone a suspect.

Tony Blair talks incessantly about respect, yet there are few who have done more to degrade authority's respect for the public. Nowhere is that better seen than in the behaviour of the police, which gradually becomes more coercive and imbued with the idea that we are all bad hats until we prove otherwise. We now live in a country where the idea of wrongful arrest has become a historic curiosity and where anyone can be arrested for the slightest offence and compelled to become part of the government's DNA database.

We live in a country where young boys - one was just seven - are taken aside and questioned for trying to knock conkers out of chestnut trees on public ground. Where a grandmother whose neighbour accused her of not returning a ball kicked into her garden was arrested, fingerprinted and required to give her DNA. The police went through every room in her house, even her daughter's drawers, before letting her go without charge or caution.

Where two sisters can be arrested after a peaceful protest about climate change, held in solitary confinement for 36 hours without being allowed to make a phone call, then told not to talk to each other as a condition of their bail. As this paper reported, their money, keys, computers, discs and phones were confiscated, their homes searched.

There is much more, all of it enabled by Blair's laws and encouraged by a vindictive and erroneous contention that defendants' rights must be reduced in the pursuit of more and quicker prosecutions. Our prisons are full, problem teenagers are, by default, exiled to a kind of outlawry and every citizen becomes the subject of an almost hysterical need by the authorities to check up on and chivvy them.

The government regards us not just as wedded to too many regrettable vices - smoking, speeding, drinking too much, eating unhealthy food and taking no exercise - but also as innately prone to law-breaking. Perhaps with good reason, since, according to the Liberal Democrat homes affairs spokesman, Nick Clegg, some 3,000 criminal offences have been created by Labour. The more crimes there are, the more criminals there will be.

Mass surveillance has begun on our motorways and in our town centres. Metropolitan drivers increasingly find themselves pressed into numberplate-recognition camera traps on the same principle that inspires Operation Shield. Everyone has something to hide unless they can prove otherwise, which is why the police also enthusiastically pursue samples for the DNA database. (Incidentally, by next year, the total number of profiles will rise to three million, one in five of which will belong to black people.)

The police are in their very own heaven and demand more and more powers of instant justice, a contradiction in terms if ever there was one. These will allow them to crush people's cars, issue more on-the-spot fines and ban 'undesirables' from any area they choose without having to go to court. Even parish councils are to become part of this culture of minatory bossiness. Instead of having to apply to central government to introduce new bylaws, they are to be given powers by Ruth Kelly, the Communities and Local Government Minister, to levy instant £100 fines for skateboarding, not cleaning up dog mess, busking and, no doubt, scrumping for apples and playing Pooh sticks. How will it end - with CCTV cameras watching small boys for inappropriate behaviour in the vicinity of horse chestnuts?

In his frantic terminality, Blair plans the sinister information-sharing index, otherwise known as the universal child register, and last week was musing that we should all have our DNA stored on the national base. Link this to his earlier remarks about identifying problem children who might grow up to be a menace to society by intervening before they were born and you begin to feel the chill of the technology-driven authoritarianism.

What runs through all this seems to be a rather surprising dislike of the British people. It was once possible to believe the government's unusual attention to law, order and behaviour was benevolent yet ill-conceived. Now it looks more like the result of late-onset sociopathy, influenced by a long period in power and the degenerate entanglement between Downing Street and the seething red-top newspapers.

The prevailing account of Britain in the current political establishment has become deeply pessimistic and, to my mind, wrong. Yes, we have problems with home-grown terrorism, loutishness, a swelling underclass, unintegrating minorities, but there is another story. Britain is also a success and it should occur to one of our political leaders to defy the orthodoxy of decline and compliment the nation on its adaptability and deep reserves of virtue and toleration.

Think of the charitable activity in this country, of the level of public debate that wells up in BBC programmes such as Any Questions, the deep interest in history, the eagerness of the audiences at arts festivals all over Britain, the humour and generosity of spirit, the commitment to local communities, to understanding each other's needs and of the array of passions and hobbies which absorb so many millions of people whose quiet, law-abiding fulfilment as Britons goes undescribed by the furious negativity of the moment. It is these people, with their stored-up virtue and unself-conscious decency, who the government seeks to turn into suspects and infantilise by its morbid intrusion.

It is not the government's business to encroach on our experience as individuals in a democracy, to threaten us with so much oppressive legislation and always to assume our guilt. But there is another reason and that is because we are soon going to have to have the debate about individual liberty in the context of rapid climate change. That will only work if the government treats us like adults and says: 'Look, this is potentially the greatest crisis civilisation has ever faced and we need your help.' The resulting contract must be between equals - the people and the state - and in a relationship where respect flows both ways.That, ultimately, is what this nagging and suspicious government threatens.

Yeah and guess what the Bush family has tight ties with the Bin Ladin family....

so give it all a rest would you. 


What pulled us out of the
Great Depression was WW-II, which alleviated a lot of unemployment by sending guys overseas and boosted the manufacturing industry by demanding production of war materiel.  Do we have to wait for him to get us into WW-III?
i pulled theme

words out of your post -- no context provided.  Words for Obama include restore, rebuild, hope, inclusiveness, democracy, diplomacy, and last but not least arugula.


 


pulled out of any context

whatsoever to inflame prejudice.  shameful, shameful behavior. 


 


Of course she's not having her strings pulled...sm
By the religious right, she IS the religious right! She's a walking poster board for them.

But if she gets to WA, she's going to get her strings pulled by the puppet masters. It won't be like in Alaska where she can practice cronyism by appointing her unqualified high school friends to every position. She'll have to work with McCain's cronies.

It's already happening now during the campaign. She has to go along with the program if she wants to play. It's not her campaign. She's learning (from scratch) foreign policy from these people. She's parroting what they tell her to. You don't see that? Okay......


It's not garbage; I'm just not one pulled around by a
XX
this is not right: When the Israelis pulled out of
Gaza in 2005, they destroyed all houses and everything that might be useful to the Palestinians. And now they are destroying the very livelhood of the Palestinians in the Westbank, their olive trees, their agriculture and their houses.
If they had pulled him from a picket line that would be different...sm
He was arrested for wearing a Veterans for Peace T-shirt.
McCain cronies pulled a man

from the Justice Department who was a lead terrorist prosecutor to fly to Alaska to squelch the investigation.  What exactly are they hiding up there?  It must be pretty serious to go that far.  She lied - she said she welcomed the investigation and would cooperate fully in it.  A shocking preview of what her time in office would be like if she were VP.


 


She has given no indication of having her strings pulled,....
by anyone in any of her previous public service. That is why she has so many political enemies. She makes decisions based on what is best for the people, not what is best for the politicians. I think we need to get BACK to that. WHat makes you think Obama won't be a puppet President with his strings being pulled by the DNC and George Soros? There is about as much evidence of that as there is of Palin having strings pulled by the religious right.
The clip has been pulled - imagine that!
They sure are trying their hardest to keep what it is they are about out of the news.

As the infamous Indiana Jones stated.....

"Nazi's.....I hate these guys."
How truly sad for you...... really! pulled by a nose ring..
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No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
I think it was yesterday they pulled Biden off the trail for a day...
or part of it anyway. At least that is what CNBC reported.
Oh..........I seriously doubt that! Pulled by a nose ring!
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No, all racists stood in line.... pulled them out from
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Instead of bashing Bush, how about giving KUDOS to all who pulled together ...
and HAVE made it work so far??? The evacuation plans apparently WORKED, and I was pleased to see Mayor Nagin being as forceful as he was!

Thank God for lessons learned!

Prayers and thoughts to all in that area, as well as the SE coast with Hurricane Hanna !


Same reasons I pulled straight democrat ticket.
make it through the House and Senate. No more shrub veto.
What MY Eyes see s/m

I'm about sick to death of every social ill being laid at the feet of smokers.  I also have a big problem with lazy slobs who would rather mooch off the taxpayers than work but if they choose to spend their welfare on tobacco....or gambling....as many in this particular area do and go without food, that's their problem.  Welfare is way out of hand.  There is something wrong with the law that lets slobs get help they don't need and some elderly or truly diabled  person can't qualify for any help because they have worked hard and have a few dollars in the bank.  As far as I am concerned there was nothing wrong with the commodities that were issued instead of food stamps before the "new and improved" welfare program.  Then they got what they needed to keep them alive and that was about it.  So who changed the rules to allow the slobs to be able to buy all the good stuff while you have to skimp?  You got it...politicians, Democrats AND Republicans.


If you're looking to either of these 2 candidates to change ANYTHING that will make it easier for you, or people like you, I think you're in for a real disappointment.


My eyes!
Wondering, could this have been caused by gazing upon the radiance of O's countenance without protective eye gear??
Truce? Not in my eyes
SM, I have not called a truce with you..just because another liberal has..she/he has every right to but not I..you have repeatedly over a few months attacked me personally and ideologically..you have started off debating and then after a few posts of debate have attacked me..I want nothing to do with you..a truce?  For how long a day? and then you will start to attack again?  Give me a break..There were many times you posted here and the posts were genuine, I thought, and then before you knew it..you could not stand it..the other poster was getting to you..so you would attack like a mad dog..like a fool and attack personally..I dont trust you..frankly, I dont like you..go back to the conservative board where you can attack liberal ideology and pat each other on the back, cause you cant handle really true debate with ideologies other than your own, your previous posts prove it..The only way you could prove to me you want a ****truce**** is to post a few posts that are not attacking and understanding that ALL AMERICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DIFFERENCE IN OPINION AND DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES AND NOT ALL BELIEVE IN CONSERVATIVE VIEWS AND YOU STILL RESPECT THEM AS AMERICANS..I dont think you can do it..You dont have it in you..You are obsessed with changing peoples opinions and ideologies and it isnt gonna happen, not through attacks and hateful posts, as you have done..
open your eyes
and you believe this?  Democrats misleading the public?  OMG, this administration has mislead us on everything and lies all the time..there is nothing you can believe about this administration cause their only cause is for big business and to pay back those who had Bush in their pockets for the election.  An administration who says Intelligent Design should be taught and there is no such thing as global warming?  Well, gotta tell ya, the reality is..the middle class is being squeezed and the rich are getting richer..I have a friend who was born with a major silver spoon in his mouth and he too agrees, as Clinton does, that the tax breaks are only going to the rich..I have never received a tax break yet I pay quite a bit in taxes..As you defend the republican ideology, the country around you disintegrates..Im so sorry for you, however, you will be there in the ditches with us when everything falls apart and where will Bush be, LOLOLOLOL, in his protected ranch..OPEN YOUR EYES..Nothing in this administration helps the working class/middle class.NOTHING.
Easy on the eyes?
Are you kidding me?
It was me and, yep , I said it. Easy on the eyes!
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You need to open your eyes.......
We have Muslim people in our church. They will be the first to tell you that are so glad to be out of the country where this is forced upon them. They will be the first to tell you the Q'ran does not speak of love one another, only love another Muslim. They will be the first to tell you that Westerners do not really know the full extent of the hatred that is taught to the men/sons. They will be the first to tell you they are so glad they learned there is really a God that says to love ALL, love your family members even if they are non-believers, and to love those that hate you. Islam does not teach that. You can yack on and on all you want but you can't show me anything verses that say otherwise. They more than you know the Q'ran back to back and will say it does not speak of love of others and to hate all; Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers.

Sadly, why do you assume those that have denounced Islam don't know their feelings of what they have been through more than you?

You immediately jumped to Christians. Why is that? There are those that have left countries where this is taught, do not accept Christianity, but have denounced what they were taught because it is hate.

You need to get off your anti-Christian bandwagon.
The world through the eyes of
country music.  LOL! 
FOR DEMOCRATS' EYES ONLY sm
Did someone forget to tell the rabid republicans that Obama won?  Did someone forget to tell them how Palin made a fool out of McCain?  This is too hysterical for words.  I have to admit, I am really gloating here.  Watching all those formerly red states turn blue.... that was amazing.  Also, even if they are rabid creepublicans, they will still benefit from the changes Obama will make.  Send me a private email if you wish to gloat along with me.  These ladies are not very flexible, patriotic or bright.  I truly think it is time for everyone to back our new president and stop spreading the hate.
Open your eyes. It is all over
Look at Lou Dobbs main page.
In the eyes of the beholder

1. I am not going to decide if she is beautiful or not.  That is not my place.


2. I see nothing with the way that she dresses because I have a couple of my sister's kids, who believe me gives me sleepless nights with their fashion sense, but I love them and I think they are the most beautiful people I have ever seen.


3. As a woman, I look in the mirror every day and find things that if I had a good platic surgeon and money.....need I say more? (I would be the nip/tuck queen)....lol but since I do not, then I take the alternative route in believing that I am beautiful (hubby helps by telling me how beautiful I am too even though I know that I am at least 40 pounds overweight).


4.  When I look at the picture the only thing that comes to mind is that "she does look healthy" and I would like to find myself in that same position.


5.  I suppose it is easy to find fault with others rather than find what is beautiful in someone, but I have NEVER did like the easy way of doing things.  Have a good one folks.


My old eyes, could barely see them either, but if you highlight
them then you can see them better.
Fool? In whose eyes, right wingers, LOL
Fool in your eyes, not in the majority of this country..I kind of am glad Bush is messing up so much, come election next year, you bet there will be many Americans who will think twice before voting for republicans..
Take your eyes and gaze up ONE post.
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WARNING: NOT FOR CONSERVATIVE EYES - REALLY
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/25/7441/ The Washington Post link in this article is good as well.
I agree with oldtimer. So in your eyes, we should go right in,
In that case, I think your initial question was posed only in hopes of baiting an Obama supporter. I sure hope that's not the case.
What is sad is you wont even open your eyes to
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The first time I laid eyes on SP on TV, I was sure that SNL
The likeness was pretty incredible! I was disappointed Obama wasn't on it, but he did the right thing by putting it off, what with Hurricane Ike and all. Anyway, that's pretty much the only thing I like about SP - is that she'll provide so much inspiration to the writers at SNL this season. She's pretty easy to make fun of.....
That's the one word I noticed. Look into my eyes...
Follow me and you will be granted three wishes...but not before I publish my next book, sit down with terrorists and chat, be romanced by the mainstream media (oops I hope I don't get punished with a baby), and mark myself as present in the Oval office all while I am working on padding my pockets on some dirty Rezko deal.  I could go on, but, well, you know, I am so modest.
That surely should open some eyes. (sm)

I sure hope the constituents of those candidates see these videos and boot the jerks out. I also think they should be arrested and put in the slammer, plus pay back all the money they received from FMFM, and definitely never be able to run for public office again.


Stuff like this makes me furious. They are supposed to be working for us, not themselves.


Maybe it's time to dig deeper into the whole government, and weed all these guys out, whether pubs or dems. Don't matter.


And democrats will not open their eyes and think
objectively.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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That woman has crazy eyes . . .
You know when you can see the whites of the eyes all around the iris. Them's crazy eyes.
please open your eyes - you mistated yourself
I am old enough to remember the 60s. This is not the 60s. This is also not the Vietnam war. This is a whole different and new set of problems (we have AL Queda, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Terrorist who want to see our country destroyed and is most likely possible they have found a way to do it. What better way than to get one of theirs to be our next president. Not to mention all the social and other issues going on today. How I wish it was the 60s again. Life seemed so simple back then (actually I wouldn't mind the 40s/50s).

There is proof Obama was "best buds" with Ayers. Haven't you been reading all the information, watched the videos, read the documentation of eye witnesses, or are you believing only what Obama says... "he was a guy who happened to be in my neighborhood". Obama is running for President. Of course he's going to say that.

Also your statement is incorrect. Ayers is NOT a respected professor (unless you believe that it was okay to do the criminal activities he did). Sure I did some things in my 20s I wouldn't want to be judged on today, but Ayers was just interviewed and he said he is not sorry and that not enough terrorist activies were committed. He also said America makes him want to throw up. Those are his feelings of today - not when he was in his 20s.

You have got to open your eyes! What is wrong with Hillary for President or any one of the other candidates. Why Obama? My husband told me today that you could have on film Obama stabbing people over and over and clearly on film and there are still people who will vote for him and say so what?
i agree... not too good on the eyes
but he was a cutie
Racist is in the eyes of the beholder.
I believe that blacks and mixed racists did not exactly ASK to be put in the position to "pick" a side. Furthermore, as long as the oppression of open racism and bigotry is alive and well in the good ole USA, I am afraid they will continue to do wo.
LOL - Hazel eyes - we never get a break
is it me or is the whole world going nuts!