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The beef is the same beef that many people have with Halliburton receiving

Posted By: MTME on 2005-06-18
In Reply to: So...sm - MT

all the OTHER contracts it received.


Somehow, their receiving this particular contract seems more heinous than all the other ones that they received, given the current controversy surrounding it.




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    Where's the beef?

    where's the beef?
    Ummm.........why were McCain staff going through the trash from the DNC (if this is even remotely true)? Trying to find some voters? Who reported  it? What was their name? Boy scouts sorted them? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL     Keep on dumbing it down Fox Noise.........they swallow it!!!! Hook, line and sinker!!!!
    What exactly is your beef?

    Because he's trying to show respect for the culture of a people whose land he is visiting?  Because he's trying to show that America (at least the reasonable Americans) has respect for more than one religion? Because he's trying to show that there's room for more than one religion in the world and that is benefits EVERYONE to work together in peace?


    Where's the beef? On the hoof, of course...sm
    However, Obama lacks strength of character, while McCain may have other faults, lack of character is not one of them.

    And that character, my friend, is what will take him to the white house.
    McCain/Palin - where's the beef?

    Oh, so it's NOT taxpayer money then, so what's the beef?
    x
    The cattle/beef industry deserves to go down, but otherwise
    x
    I'll take McCain's beef over Obama's baloney any day.
    nm
    You have not been on the receiving end
    Her posts are hateful, intolerant, disrespectful, excessive, domineering and controlling if she disagrees with the slightest part of what she is replying to. Do you think all this feedback is coming out of nowhere for no good reason? The reason this is so high-pitched is that for the first time in a long time, posters who have been abused by Sam showed up on the same day and fought back at the same time. It does not happen very often, but there ARE good and justified reasons for so many to be expressing themselves like this.
    I am a PT MT receiving my retirement
    social security benefits. Here is what the letter I received from the SSA stated:

    On February 17, 2009, President Obama signed into law the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Among its provisions are one-time payments to Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) beneficiaries, as well as funding to help the agency address critical needs.

    One-Time Payments of $250 For Social Security and SSI Beneficiaries

    Nearly 55 million people who receive Social Security and SSI benefits will get a special one-time payment of $250. They should receive the one-time payment by late May 2009.

    Rick Davis receiving money

    for Fannie Mae lobbying even as late as LAST MONTH.  Corruption.


     


    Obama receiving illegal funding.
    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/241ee34b-28b0-48cf-b533-53cfa4c1d213
    and who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
    You can't call out one and not the other. If anything, they are BOTH guilty.
    And who is #2 on the receiving end of Chris Dodd and his cronies???? OBAMARAMA, that's who. sm
    You can't out one and not the other. They probably BOTH are guilty, but accuse them both, not just McCain.
    Halliburton had 8 years of

    free reign with taxpayer money and you are focused on a celebration of a historic event? Priorities people.


     


    Just wait till Halliburton gets the

    Dubai Ports contract that they now say they are going to hire Americans to run.


    Talk about thumbing his nose to America!


    If I were an independent voter receiving McCain's garbage phone ad this weekend

    You're making dinner and trying to sit down with your family to eat after an exhausting work week and pouring over your 401K loss report.  You have just found out that the $42,000 you had accumulated as of last spring is now worth $26,040.  You've just turned off the burner under the hot veggies when, BRRRINNNGGGG, the phone rings.  It's the McCain campaign delivering an urgent message to you in the privacy of your own home, assuming you never listen to network news, read a paper or go on line and are unaware of their latest breaking news....telling you that Barack Obama is a terrorist who hangs with other terrorists, on the off chance that it might capture your previously uncommitted vote.  If it happened to me, I would be up with the chickens Monday morning at the early voting polls telling every single peson within earshot that I had just voted a straight Dem ticket.  How dare they? 


    Halliburton will build new prison on Guantanamo
    Halliburton subsidiary gets $30 million to build new Guantanamo prison

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    11:28 a.m. June 17, 2005

    WASHINGTON – A subsidiary of Houston-based Halliburton has been awarded a $30 million contract to build an improved 220-bed prison for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, the Pentagon announced.

    Kellogg Brown and Root Services Inc. of Arlington, Va., is to build a two-story prison that includes day rooms, exercise areas, medical bays, air conditioning and a security control room, according to the Pentagon. It is to be completed by July 2006.

    Congress previously approved the funding for the construction job. Some members, along with human rights groups, are now calling for Guantanamo to close because of reports of prisoner abuses there and because the foreign detainees are being held indefinitely with no charges filed.

    KBR beat out two other bids for the job, the Pentagon said.

    "The future detention facility will be based on prison models in the U.S. and is designed to be safer for the long-term detention of detainees and the guards," according to a statement provided by a Pentagon spokesman. "It is also expected to require less manpower to operate."

    The new prison building, called Detention Camp {PI:EF}6, will replace some of the older facilities at the Navy base, which officials say are not adequate for holding prisoners for the long term.

    The total contract could be worth up to $500 million through 2010, the Pentagon said. The Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic, in Norfolk, Va., is the contracting agency.

    About 520 prisoners from the Bush administration's war on terrorism are held at Guantanamo. Already, $110 million has been spent on construction there, and the prison costs about $95 million a year to operate.

    White House officials have said there are no plans to close the facility because the detainees being held there are too dangerous to release while the war on terror continues.
    Halliburton=Cheney=benefiting from war/terrorism
    Check it out, lots and lots and lots written about it.  Draw your own conclusions. 
    Dyncorp & Halliburton Sex Slave Scandal

    Dyncorp and Halliburton Sex Slave Scandal Won't Go Away
    Halliburton, Dyncorp lobbyists stall law banning human trafficking and sex slavery


    Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | January 1 2006


    Almost a year after Representative Cynthia McKinney was told by Donald Rumsfeld that it was not the policy of the Bush administration to reward companies that engage in human trafficking with government contracts, the scandal continues to sweep up innocent children who are sold into a life of slavery at the behest of Halliburton subsidiaries , Dyncorp and other transnational corporations with close ties to the establishment elite.


    On March 11th 2005, McKinney grilled Secretary Rumsfeld and General Myers on the Dyncorp scandal.


    Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade. The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business. But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children. While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program. Mr. Secretary, is it [the] policy of the U.S. Government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?


    The response and McKinney's comeback was as follows.


    Rumsfeld: Thank you, Representative. First, the answer to your first question is, is, no, absolutely not, the policy of the United States Government is clear, unambiguous, and opposed to the activities that you described. The second question.



    McKinney: Well how do you explain the fact that DynCorp and its successor companies have received and continue to receive government contracts?


    Rumsfeld: I would have to go and find the facts, but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts, and there are times that corporations do things they should not do, in which case they tend to be suspended for some period; there are times then that the - under the laws and the rules and regulations for the - passed by the Congress and implemented by the Executive branch - that corporations can get off of - out of the penalty box if you will, and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government. They're generally not barred in perpetuity.


    McKinney: This contract - this company - was never in the penalty box.


    Rumsfeld: I'm advised by DR. Chu that it was not the corporation that was engaged in the activities you characterized but I'm told it was an employee of the corporation, and it was some years ago in the Balkans that that took place.


    Watch the video here.


    Rumsfeld's effort to shift the blame away from the hierarchy at Dyncorp and onto the Dyncorp employees was a blatant attempt to hide the fact that human trafficking and sex slavery is a practice condoned by companies like Dyncorp and Halliburton subsidiaries like KBR.


    What else are we to assume in light of recent revelations cited in the Chicago Tribune that Halliburton subsidiary KBR and Dyncorp lobbyists are working in tandem with the Pentagon to stall legislation that would specifically ban trafficking in humans for forced labor and prostitution by U.S. contractors?



    Three years has now elapsed since President Bush's promise to bring an end to this disgrace and the Pentagon is still yet to actually bar the practice.


    And the employees themselves that are burned for blowing the whistle, like Kathryn Bolkovac who was sacked for reporting on Dyncorp officials who were involved in the Bosnian sex trade.


    Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich is one of very few representatives in high office aside from Cynthia McKinney to demand answers on this issue.



    We applaud Blagojevich's eforts. The iron curtain of official denial and soft-peddling is falling down.


    What has happened to the children who were sold into slavery and forced to satisfy the demands of sick pedophiles working on behalf of the US government?


    Where were the investigations and convictions in other cases of establishment orchestrated child slavery and prostitution? Like the NATO officials responsible for the mushrooming of child prostitution in Kosovo?


    What happened to UN officials identified as using a ship charted for 'peacekeepers' to bring young girls from Thailand to East Timor as prostitutes?


    In addition, we received an E mail from a person claiming to be a Dyncorp employee stating that a high level Dyncorp official is breaking the law by accepting payment from the US government and in turn the American taxpayer by falsifying timesheets and claiming pay for hours not worked.


    The contact states that this was repeatedly brought to the attention of DynCorp program managers by Dyncorp employees but they were told it was none of their business.


    It is important to stress that at the moment these are allegations and we have no proof of this other than the validity of the e mail.


    The e mail is a reminder that we should always consider the fact that the vast majority of Dyncorp employees are just doing their jobs and have nothing to do with this scandal. It is a small faction at the head of the hydra that have authorized and engaged in these horrors.



    We have a government that says it doesn't advocate torture and yet tries to block a law that would end torture. We have a government that repeatedly burns lower level minions to wash its hands of every major scandal that encompasses policies directly administered by the government itself, as in the case of Abu Ghraib and the Dyncorp sex scandal.


    A government that covers-up for those who force children into prostitution and slavery is a clear danger to our very way of life.


    We must demand answers and finally put an end to a process that exploits and wreaks terror on the lives of the most innocent and vulnerable members of society, whether they be in the Balkans, East Timor or here at home.


    Our own children.


    FYI, Halliburton and KBR are headquartered in Houston Texas
    the "ties" between the Bush Family and Halliburton and KBR are legendary down in the Lone Star and go back generations. W's Uncle Prescott was director at Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton. HW Bush worked there as well 1948-1951. KBR was embroiled in the W administration controversy surrounding the cimcumvention of normal contractor hiring protocol for Iraq. You must have a really short attention span.
    Gee, maybe we can recoup it from Halliburton and the irresponsible money sm
    flushed down the toilet in the so-called War on Terror. I know - how about we get it from Exxon and the corporate crooks who've had years of screwing the American public under the aegis of the Republican party?
    Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water
    (I wonder what else they won't protect if/when they're put in charge after the Dubai deal goes through.  And I believe Bush will find a way to push it through right under Americans' noses, since I believe his loyalty lies clearly with rich Arabs and not with the safety of Americans.)

     

    Updated:2006-03-16 07:52:03

     

    Halliburton Didn't Protect Soldiers' Water

     

    Internal Memo Warns of 'Mass Sickness or Death'

    ap


    WASHINGTON (March 16) - Halliburton Co. failed to protect the water supply it is paid to purify for U.S. soldiers throughout Iraq, in one instance missing contamination that could have caused mass sickness or death, an internal company report concluded.


    The report, obtained by The Associated Press, said the company failed to assemble and use its own water purification equipment, allowing contaminated water directly from the Euphrates River to be used for washing and laundry at Camp Ar Ramadi in Ramadi, Iraq.


    The problems discovered last year at that site - poor training, miscommunication and lax record keeping - occurred at Halliburton's other operations throughout Iraq, the report said.


    Countrywide, all camps suffer to some extent from all or some of the deficiencies noted, Wil Granger, Theatre Water Quality Manager in the war zone for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary, wrote in his May 2005 report.


    AP reported earlier this year allegations from whistleblowers about the Camp Ar Ramadi incident, but Halliburton never made public Granger's internal report alleging wider problems.


    The water quality expert warned Halliburton the problems will have to be dealt with at a very elevated level of management to protect health and safety of U.S. personnel.


    Halliburton said Wednesday it conducted a second review last year that found no evidence of any illnesses in Iraq from water and it believes some of its earlier conclusions were incomplete and inaccurate. The company declined to release the second report.


    The company said it has worked closely with the Army to develop standards and take action to ensure that the water provided in Iraq is safe and of the highest quality possible.


    Halliburton was headed by Vice President Dick Cheney for several years before he ran for vice president. Its KBR subsidiary, also known as Kellogg Brown & Root, works under contract to provide a number of services to the U.S. military in Iraq, including providing water and purifying it.


    The contaminated, non-chlorinated water at Ar Ramadi was discovered in March 2005 in a commode by Ben Carter, a KBR water expert at the base. In an interview, Carter said he resigned after KBR barred him from notifying the military and senior company officials about the untreated water.


    A supervisor at Ar Ramadi told me to stop e-mailing company officials outside the base and warned that informing the military was none of my concern, Carter said. He said he threatened to sue if company officials didn't let him be examined to determine whether he suffered medical problems from exposure to the contaminated water.


    Granger's report cited several countrywide problems:


    A lack of training for key personnel. Theatre wide there is no formalized training for anyone at any level in concerns to water operations.


    Confusion between KBR and military officials over their respective roles. For instance, each assumed the other would chlorinate the water at Ar Ramadi for any uses that would require the treatment.


    Inadequate or nonexistent records that could have caught problems in advance. Little or no documentation was kept on water inventories, safety stand-downs, audits of water quality, deliveries, inspections and logs showing alterations or modifications to water systems.


    Relying on employees the company identified as semiskilled labor, and paid as unskilled workers in the pay structure.


    The report said the event at Ar Ramadi could have been prevented if KBR's Reverse Osmosis Units on the site had been assembled, instead of relying on the military's water production facilities.


    This event should be considered a 'near miss' as the consequences of these actions could have been very severe resulting in mass sickness or death, Granger wrote.


    The report said that KBR officials at Ar Ramadi tried to keep the contamination from senior company officials.


    The event that was submitted in a report to local camp management should have been classified as a recordable occurrence and communicated to senior management in a timely manner, Granger wrote. The primary awareness to this event came through threat of domestic litigation.


    Beginning last May, Halliburton said it began using its equipment to remove contaminants, bacteria, and viruses in Ar Ramadi, and disinfect the water with chlorine. The company said KBR has worked closely with the Army to develop safe water standards.


    It said its subsequent review in August-September 2005 found nonpotable water used for washing was effectively filtered to remove at least 99 percent of the parasite giardia and 90 percent of viruses. The Ar Ramadi water also tested negative for bacteria, Halliburton added.

    Halliburton to wounded employee: You'll get a medal - if you don't sue.
    Halliburton to Wounded Employee: You'll Get a Medal -- If You Don't Sue

    Halliburton will help its combat-zone employees get the honors and recognition they deserve -- if they promise not to sue the company. That's according to new documents released today by Senate Democrats.


    Ray Stannard was a truck driver in Iraq for Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. In 2003, he was part of a fuel convoy that was ambushed by insurgents. Seven Americans died in the attack and 26 were injured, including Stanner. He is suing the company.


    His company knew the convoy's route was dangerous and unprotected, he says, but sent the convoy through anyway. What they did was murder, Stannard told CBS News recently. And I stick by that.


    The circumstances of his injuries qualified Stanner for the U.S. Defense of Freedom medal, the civilian equivalent to a soldier's Purple Heart. In offering to forward Stanner's medical records to the Department of Defense so they could confirm and appove his award, KBR required him to sign a release form. (You can see the document here.)


    The document, sent to Stannard in November 2004, appears to be boilerplate -- but for one curious paragraph that appears to indemnify KBR from any wrongdoing that may have led to Stanner's injuries:


    . . . I agree that in consideration for the application for a Defense of Freedom Medal on my behalf that. . . I hereby release, aquit and discharge KBR, all KBR employees, the military, and any of their representatives. . . with respect to and from any and all claims and any and all causes of action, of any kind or character, whether now known or unknown, I may have against any of them which exist as of the date of this authorization. . . . This release also applies to any claims brought by any person or agency or class action under which I may have a right or benefit.

    Stannard didn't sign the form. He received the medal. And he filed suit against the company the following May.


    Halliburton and troops: Dirty water, dirty tricks













      MSNBC.com

    Report: Untreated water at U.S. base in Iraq
    Halliburton denies contamination of supply to American soliders, civilians


    The Associated Press

    Updated: 5:42 p.m. ET Jan. 22, 2006



    WASHINGTON - Troops and civilians at a U.S. military base in Iraq were exposed to contaminated water last year and employees for the responsible contractor, Halliburton, couldn’t get their company to inform camp residents, according to interviews and internal company documents.


    Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, disputes the allegations about water problems at Camp Junction City, in Ramadi, even though they were made by its own employees and documented in company e-mails.


    “We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated,” said a July 15, 2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton’s KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.


    “The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River,” Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.


    Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who will chair the session, held a number of similar inquiries last year on contracting abuses in Iraq. He said Democrats were acting on their own because they had not been able to persuade Republican committee chairmen to investigate.


    The company’s former water treatment expert at Camp Junction City said that he discovered the problem last March, a statement confirmed by his e-mail the day after he tested the water.


    Bottled water used only for drinking
    While bottled water was available for drinking, the contaminated water was used for virtually everything else, including handwashing, laundry, bathing and making coffee, said water expert Ben Carter of Cedar City, Utah.


    Another former Halliburton employee who worked at the base, Ken May of Louisville, said there were numerous instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps — problems he also suffered.


    A spokeswoman for Halliburton said its own inspection found neither contaminated water nor medical evidence to substantiate reports of illnesses at the base. The company now operates its own water treatment plant there, spokeswoman Melissa Norcross said.


    A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.


    “The allegations appear not to have merit,” Keefe said.


    Halliburton has contracts to provide a number of services to U.S. forces in Iraq and was responsible for the water quality at the base in Ramadi.


    Year-long exposure?
    Granger’s July 15 memo said the exposure had gone on for “possibly a year” and added, “I am not sure if any attempt to notify the exposed population was ever made.”


    The first memo on the problem — written by Carter to Halliburton officials on March 24, 2005 — was an “incident report” from tests Carter performed the previous day.


    “It is my opinion that the water source is without question contaminated with numerous micro-organisms, including Coliform bacteria,” Carter wrote. “There is little doubt that raw sewage is routinely dumped upstream of intake much less than the required 2 mile distance.


    “Therefore, it is my conclusion that chlorination of our water tanks while certainly beneficial is not sufficient protection from parasitic exposure.”


    Carter said he resigned in early April after Halliburton officials did not take any action to inform the camp population.


    The water expert said he told company officials at the base that they would have to notify the military. “They told me it was none of my concern and to keep my mouth shut,” he said.


    ‘They brushed it under the carpet’
    On at least one occasion, Carter said, he spoke to the chief military surgeon at the base, asking him whether he was aware of stomach problems afflicting people. He said the surgeon told him he would look into it.


    “They brushed it under the carpet,” Carter said. “I told everyone, ‘Don’t take showers, use bottled water.”


    A July 14, 2005, memo showed that Halliburton’s public relations department knew of the problem.


    “I don’t want to turn it into a big issue right now,” staff member Jennifer Dellinger wrote in the memo, “but if we end up getting some media calls I want to make sure we have all the facts so we are ready to respond.”


    Halliburton’s performance in Iraq has been criticized in a number of military audits, and congressional Democrats have contended that the Bush administration has favored the company with noncompetitive contracts.


    © 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.




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    So you and your daughter have no problem with people who wish for people and their children sm
    to burn in hell, call people's children ugly, etc. etc.  Well, you might not BE gt, but you might as well be.  Even the liberals don't agree with gt, or hadn't you noticed?  You might want to check that out and while you are at it, the conservative board has been a regular play pen since the liberals stopped their hateful dive bombing.  In fact, some really good conversations are taking place over there between both sides, which DOES NOT happen on this site. 
    Bored people are BORING people.
    nm
    Is that how your people justify killing people?

    So then you only like to where people who say what you believe have to say.

    Pretty sad.  At least the consevatives here weather the storms and stay.  That pretty much says a lot about you and them, too.  It's sure not like you guys never took pot shots over there. Of course, I am sure it wasn't YOU. Right.


    gee, 100,000 people vs. 400 people
    100,000 = anti-war protesters
    400 = anti-anti-war protesters

    Statistics from today's White House rally.

    Now shoo, run along home now back to your hole or cave or whatever you crawled out of.
    I consider the people..
    and programs I mentioned fair and balanced. Meet the Press, Hardball, Tyler Carlson on CNN, Face The Nation. They said that they would not accept Drudge as reliable information, not I although I don't but my opinion carries less weight than that of those mentioned above.
    100 people
    This was a SMALL gathering, and as stated above, Jews tend to support abortion rights more than any other group (15-20%). So this small group hardly speaks for the majority of the Jewish Community.
    She has none of those people that we know of ... sm

    She just got announced.  I am not saying that there is anything in her background, but it is early and I am sure if there is one iota of a person in her background then we will here about it.  For this whole experience thing, what have we got in the past 8 years and the past 8 before that with all of the so-called experience the Rep. think we need. 


    Why are we still bring up Rev. Wright?  Can't we just move past that?  We've heard it all. 


    Sorry, people....
    The blame for the way Katrina was handled lays completely with the democratic Louisiana governor, Kathleen Blanco, and the democratic New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin.

    They didn't follow the protocol for disasters.

    However, now Bobby Jinda, Republican governor, is in charge, and he is handling things the way they should have been back then.....


    Why are people so

    focused on outward appearances?  It is a person's heart that shows true beauty......not their face.  A face can change over time, but a pure heart remains and that is what is important.


    Are these the same people
    who can afford their cigarettes and beer?
    people should have been more
    people make financial mistakes... perhaps some people wouldn't be hurting so badly right now if they had been living within their financial means to begin with.
    Why can't more people see that?
    My husband has been saying that same thing for the past few years. I am so sick and tired of working so hard to make a good life for my family, only to have *big government* take half of my money to give to people who won't lift a finger and want government to take care of them. It just makes me sick! I don't know why so many people are so blind to this.
    some people say

    is the line Hannity uses to introduce such wild statements without accepting responsibility for stating them.  The post says the GROUP endosed McCain -- did not libel McCain.  Simply an example of how people are willing to run with any statement that supports their beliefs against a candidate.


     


    God is in the People

    Slice and dice in the womb - 2.1 million babies murdered.....fanatical ravings indeed


    Who are these VERY BAD people....
    I'm not coming up with anything when I Google the internets..........
    545 people

    I'm cutting and pasting from an email my friend sent me.  Thought it was interesting enough to post here.  I really hope the spacing is okay.  The title of the email was "how to become a former columnist"


    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the  Orlando Sentinel newspaper.
                                           
     
    545 PEOPLE
      By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget.  The president does.


    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.

    The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, nine Supreme Court justices = 545 human beings out of the 300 million who are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
    They have no legal authority.   They have no authority to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.   I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.   The politician has the power to accept or reject it.   No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.   They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.   No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.   The president can only propose a budget.   He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, (supposedly) the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving
    appropriations and taxes.   Who is the speaker of the House?   She or he is the leader of the majority party.   She or he and fellow House members, not the
    president, can approve any budget they want.   If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and
    irresponsibility.   I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.   When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Marines are in  IRAQ , it's because they want them in  IRAQ .

    If they do not receive Social Security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's be cause they want it that way.
    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they
    can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.   Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses,  provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.


    it's not about the people who can't
    x
    I want to know why people like
    Dodd and Frank aren't being held accountable?  Why aren't the CEOs being held accountable?  It thoroughly ticks me off that this is literally being swept under the rug.  I want to see some punishment here. It is like they all got a get out of jail free card or something.  WTH?  They all lined their pockets with money and we are the ones paying for it and suffering.  People walking away with millions of dollars with no consequences at all while we are left to pay for their misdeeds.  I'm totally disgusted!  I say we clean house and start all over with new people.  I wanna show these politicians that I'm tired of being screwed over by them.  I really feel like this bailout was the rich bailing out their rich friends. 
    A lot of people are saying
    Don't underestimate Gov. Sarah Palin. She knows more than people give her credit for and she's smart as a whip. Looking forward to the debate.

    As for McCain's heath, I wouldn't weigh too heavily on that. He's been cleared of cancer now for at least 7 years by his doctor and is cancer-free. To be worried about that would be the same if something was to happen to Barack or Biden - would you really trust Pelosi as president? That would be too laughable if it weren't so scary. I would say if you agree with McCains policies (which I believe are going to be better for the country than Barack Osocialist's policies) then vote for him. Also remember. There are people who direct every president. There has never been any president who has ever done anything without the approval of their bosses. At least John McCain and Gov Palin will be surrounding themselves with the people who know what's going on and how to handle whatever situation arises with better solutions than the people who Obama would surround himself with. I trust that more than anything.
    Yep! And yet so many people still want
    more government! Unbelievable.
    Because so many people are NOT sensible
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    AND YOU ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY
    nm
    545 People ..................sm
    Good little summary about who we should get rid of.

    545 PEOPLE By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create
    problems and then campaign against them.

    Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and
    the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we
    have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are
    against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation
    and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The
    President does.

    You and I don't have the Constitutional authority
    to vote on appropriations. The House of
    Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don't control monetary policy,
    the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president,
    and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of
    the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and
    individually responsible for the domestic problems that
    plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board
    because that problem was created by the Congress. In
    1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide
    a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private,
    central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a
    sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have
    no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a
    president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't
    care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars
    in cash. The politician has the power to accept
    or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is
    the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy
    convincing you that what they did is not their fault.
    They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is
    an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being
    would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and
    criticized the President for creating deficits. The
    president can only propose a budget. He cannot force
    the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land,
    gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives
    for originating and approving appropriations and
    taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? The leader
    of the majority party. He/She and fellow House members,
    not the president, can approve any budget they want. If
    the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if
    they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million
    can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by
    present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility.
    I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly
    to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the
    plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the
    federal government, then it must follow that what exists is
    what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want
    it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want
    it in the red.

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's
    because they want them in IRAQ .

    If they do not receive social security but are on
    an elite retirement plan not available to the people,
    it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to
    bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can
    abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can
    reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to
    regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above
    all, do not let them con you into the belief that there
    exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the
    economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to
    do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power.

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the
    people who are their bosses

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando
    Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it
    is up to you, though you appear to have several choices.

    1. You can send this to everyone in your
    address book, and hope' they' do something about
    it.

    2. You can agree to 'vote against'
    everyone that is currently in office, knowing that the
    process will take several years.

    3. You can decide to 'run for office'
    yourself and agree to do the job properly.

    4. Lastly, you can sit back and do nothing, or
    re-elect the current bunch.

    YOU DECIDE, BUT AT LEAST SEND IT TO EVERYONE IN YOUR
    ADDRESS BOOK,
    MAYBE SOMEONE IN THERE WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT
    Maybe people
    who don't put a lot of stock in a name.  Should McCain/Palin be elected, I hope you will like what you get.
    It may not be for you but still is for a lot of people. nm
    .