The post was inappropriate, but was a threat made??

Bye bye freedom of speech. 

FBI has better things to be working on and I'm afraid if this is any indication they are going to be bombarded with inappropriate statements. 

• MODERATOR - sbMT
  • We have records of it. NM - Moderator
  • The post was inappropriate, but was a threat made?? - Let's Be Real
    • Innappropriate statements? - sbMT
      • You're right, it shouldn't have been posted. - mt
      • I did not see promotion of it; not how I took it... - nm
        • Yeah, there was no threat made. It was a sick thing - to read, but the poster threatened nobody.nm
          • actually if you read the info about the pool - cj
            • That is when the idea was first put out by the guy.... - sam
  • Was there a threat made? - Let's Be Real

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I'm afraid that this is what is going to happen everywhere.  Anytime ANYTHING is said that sounds bad somebody is going to be reporting it to the FBI.  We are slowly going to lose freedom of speech at this rate. 

Thank you.

I can't thank you enough for such a compassionate post.  You're right.  I would give anything to not be in this position, though I am grateful that Medicaid exists for people like me.  It's the "people like me" caricature that causes my shame and self-disgust.  I was brought up to believe that only the dregs (sp?) of humanity are on Medicaid assistance.

To me, it represents a myriad of losses:  My loss of control over my own life and ability to earn an income, my loss of control over the devastating things my body is doing to me, my loss of control over my own self-reliance, and my loss of self-esteem.

If more people were as compassionate as you are, this country would be a much better place.

Thank you again for the kindest of responses I could have hoped for.

I can't thank you enough for such a compassionate post.  You're right that my absence on this board is a direct result of my health problems, and you're right that I would give anything to not be in this position, though I am grateful that Medicaid exists for people like me.  It's the "people like me" caricature that causes my shame and self-disgust.  I was brought up to believe that only the dregs (sp?) of humanity receive Medicaid assistance.

To me, it represents a myriad of losses:  My loss of control over my own life and ability to earn an income, my loss of control over the devastating things my body is doing to me, my loss of control over my own self-reliance, and my loss of self-esteem.

If more people were as compassionate as you are, this country would be a much better place.

Thank you again for the kindest of responses and wishes that I could have ever hoped for in this forum.  I can't even begin to explain how good you have made me feel.

.....no amount of money would induce me to volunteer to be tortured (you know, beaten cut, burned - severe pain or harm).  But cut me a check (certified only, please) with a number followed by a whole lot of zeros and I would be waterboarded (strictly in the interest of science).  Our special forces are trained to withstand this and other 'harsh' interrigation techniques......  It's scary and unpleasant but way different from having your fingernails pulled out or a field generator and alligator clips used.

I had in mind more like $500,000, but yeah, for enough money I would certainly consider that an offer I couldn't refuse. 

in the article you posted, nor did I see the word *impeach* anywhere in the article.

I agree with your comments and with the article you referred to, and I understood the comments of LOL to mean that the article was responding to some sort of "talking points" and using the word impeach often, when in fact, it can't be found once in that article.

As far as impeaching Bush, I believe time will tell.   I personally believe he's guilty of war crimes, and that his war will be judged to be illegal before the end of his "reign as King of the USA." (if we all manage to survive that long).

The mere fact that he led us into this war based on lies should be enough to impeach him.

If I offended you, then I truly apologize.  I agree with you and I'm glad you posted this article.  I surely wouldn't have referred you back to the very article you obviously read and posted and tell you to educate yourself, and in no way, shape or form do I believe you are ignorant; far from it.

If you posted the LOL statement below, then I apologize for misunderstanding what you meant by it.

I made a mistake when posting my post, and instead of winding up under the intended post, it wound up under yours instead.  Again, I'm sorry if I offended you.

It was very clear.  Don't know how to make it any clearer.

I agree 100% with what you had to say.  Too many Americans have been brainwashed by fear, and I think many Americans who are against universal healthcare are just buying into the Chicken Little syndrome that is so prevelent in this country lately.  The sky will fall if all of our citizens have access to affordable healthcare!

As you said, using France's system as a model does not mean we have to do everything exactly as France has, but they are a great example of a system that is working.

Sorry, but I haven't been able to post lately due to some problems, but the FOIA report I posted and said to pay attention to certain pages....Clinton KNEW there were WMD's in Irag in 1996! Did he do anything? Nope. He left the country he was visiting right before a bombing; i.e., he knew it was going to happen. The jist I got of the report was that he knew and did nothing.

Did you read that report?  Don't want to dredge up old presidents but you seem to do it every chance you get, so I just have to respond to that. Bush also knew but did nothing because the CIA,DOJ, FBI and whatever other departments were to keep him informed but never worked together on anything so he got conflicting reports all the time. Was he a mind reader? Doubt it or 911 would not have happened.

Sorry, but this post does not hold water IMHO.

You don't touch strangers like that and you don't make comments about their muscles or lack thereof.  He should know better. 

Let us hope that when Obama and Biden sit down to talk to terrorists that Biden doesn't reach over and tug on Obama's beard and tell him he needs a trim or shave.  LOL!

GT explained what she meant in the post afterwards, which you conveniently ignored.  She said: Yes, as in prove you are a bigoted fool, FRYE your butt.

Any reasonably intelligent person can see she was challenging this poster to be civil and honest and to debate instead of attack, as she herself explained in her above post.  Obviously, the poster wasn't up for that challenge.

How about trying to be nice in return. This sounds like a threat:

Can I call your arse to task when you step off your ******* truce*******..You bet I will..So, honey, keep posting good posts, debate posts and you will be **in**, jump off that and your arse is fried..

That sums it up. 

I'm so glad that Joe Biden is in the White House now, considering he was one of only two who spoke up about this.  Our troops deserve an administration that respects and cares about them and will do its best to protect them.

By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON —— Military leaders knew the dangers posed by roadside bombs before the start of the Iraq war but did little to develop vehicles that were known to better protect forces from what proved to be the conflict's deadliest weapon, a report by the Pentagon inspector general says.

The Pentagon "was aware of the threat posed by mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) …… and of the availability of mine resistant vehicles years before insurgent actions began in Iraq in 2003," says the 72-page report, which was reviewed by USA TODAY.

The report is to be made public today.

Marine Corps leaders "stopped processing" an urgent request in February 2005 for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles from combat commanders in Iraq's Anbar province after declaring that a more heavily armored version of existing Humvee vehicles was the "best available" option for protecting troops, the report says.

Marine officials "did not develop a course of action for the (request), attempt to obtain funding for it or present it to the Marine Corps Requirements Oversight Council for a decision on acquiring" MRAPs, the report says.

The military continued relying mainly on Humvees until May 2007, when then-incoming Defense secretary Robert Gates called procurement of the MRAPs his top priority. Since then, the Pentagon has spent more than $22 billion to buy more than 15,000 of the vehicles.

When field commanders first began requesting MRAPs, military officials saw the armored Humvees as a more immediate option to countering IEDs, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said. "The threat has evolved and our force protection measures have evolved with it," he said.

The Marines requested the inspector general's investigation in February after an internal report accused the Corps of "gross mismanagement" of the urgent request for MRAPs. Hundreds of Marines died unnecessarily because of delays in fielding the vehicles, said the Jan. 22 study by Franz Gayl, a retired Marine officer and civilian science adviser.

Two U.S. senators —— Democrat Joe Biden of Delaware, now the vice president-elect, and Republican Kit Bond of Missouri —— demanded an investigation after details of Gayl's study were published.

"The Pentagon was aware of the threat IEDs posed to our troops prior to our intervention in Iraq and still failed to take the steps to acquire the technology needed to reduce the risk," Bond said after reviewing the report. "Some bureaucrats at the Pentagon have much to explain."

USA TODAY detailed the Pentagon's failure to move quickly on MRAP development in a series of stories last year. Gates credited one of those stories with sparking his interest in the vehicles.

Marine commanders in Iraq's then-volatile Anbar province sought 1,169 MRAPs in the February 2005 urgent request. "There is an immediate need for an MRAP vehicle capability to increase survivability and mobility of Marines operating in a hazardous fire area," it said.

The inspector general's report says that Marine officials advised Marine Corps commandant Michael Hagee at the time that armored Humvees were the "best available, most survivable" vehicles to meet the request.

MRAPs are far more resistant to IEDs and landmines than armored Humvees because they're higher off the ground and rest on a V-shaped hull, which deflects blasts from the vehicle's underside.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-12-08-mrap_N.htm

We just posted where these facilities are and what is going on, but hey....don't worry....no national security risk.  OMG!  What a bunch of flipping morons!!!

remote to that.

Why is it you are the only ones who are "free" to display your anger on your board?

If you take a look at the posts on this board, the only time they get nasty is when a troll from your board comes here and begins spewing your hatred and rage.

Why are you so angry?  Your guy won. 

Whenever a liberal raises an issue concerning a Bush administration policy or decision, I seldom see an intelligent thoughtful response come from most of you.  Instead you attack the poster on a personal level when that poster never personally attacked YOU.  They complained about Bush.  Are you BUSH??

Time and time again, most of you come back with "all liberals" insults and rarely, if ever, address the question or issue that was raised.

If you can begin to understand that it isn't YOU PERSONALLY that we are referring to, maybe then we can begin to have an intelligent conversation on this board.

If you are a conservative, I respect your right to your opinions, and I'd like to learn more about them.  I can't do that if all you do is throw insults, which you are "free" to do on your board, but if we are angered or insulted by them, we are not likewise "free" to express that.

I had hoped that these new boards would eliminate the personal favorites that seemed to exist on the other board.  Looks like that isn't the case.

And as far as approaching the administrator about fairness, if I can't do that, then I truly don't belong in a forum like this one.  I belong in one that doesn't play favorites, where intelligent discourse can occur, where personal insults and attacks are prohibited for everyone, not just for some.

I just wonder how many people you've chased away from here, besides me.