The suspension of his campaign was laughable
Posted By: What suspension? on 2008-09-26
In Reply to: This post is laughable and pitiful - me
What was suspended? The talking heads were out there. The campaign offices were all open. Ads still ran (too late to pull) McCain brought campaign aides with him to the White House, not Senate aides. Campaign daily note was given to reporters.
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Obama's suspension request draws IMMEDIATE PRAISE from across the globe.
A few hours after being sworn in, US President Barack Obama has asked prosecutors to seek a suspension of Guantanamo military trials, a decision welcomed by the world as a first step towards its closure.
"In the interests of justice, and at the direction of the president of the US and the secretary of defense, the government respectfully requests the military commission grant a continuance of the proceedings," said prosecution documents cited by Agence France Presse (AFP).
Obama wants all pending cases, including the trial of five on charges of plotting 9/11 and Canadian Omar Khadr for allegedly killing a US soldier in Afghanistan, suspended for 120 days.
"[This would] permit the newly inaugurated president and his administration time to review the military commissions process, generally, and the cases currently pending before military commissions, specifically."
Military judges will decide on Obama's request later on Wednesday, January 21.
The special military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees were established in 2006 by the Bush administration to try them under separate rules from regular civilian or military courts.
The Bush administration has declared the hundreds of detainees held at Guantanamo as unlawful enemy combatants to deny them legal rights under the American legal system.
Twenty-one people have been charged and 14 out of an estimated 245 remaining prisoners have appeared before judges.
The Pentagon had refused to unveil the body of evidence to justify the prisoners' continued detention, claiming it would endanger national security.
Obama has vowed to close the notorious detention center.
His attorney general designate Eric Holder said this month that the military commissions did not provide enough legal protections to the defendants and that the Obama team was already taking steps to close Guantanamo.
Welcomed
Obama's suspension request draw immediate praise from across the globe.
Obama's campaign called McCain's campaign.
This was reported an hour or two before McCain had his little news conference. Shouldn't take to heart too much of what McCain says as he is a known liar.
quite laughable, I think
You know, Lilly, it has gotten to the point of pure ridiculousness..If I posted that the sky was blue, the neocons would say I am dissing God cause the sky is overcast today..or whatever..It has gotten so **out there** with their nasty hostile posts it is beyond belief. LOL..I, however, can see the humor in it all because as their political beliefs and hopes crash around them, what can they do but strike out at strong democrats/liberals who believe in the complete opposite of what they have been brainwashed to believe..So sad. Because they do not have open minds and are not able to judge things rationally and fairly, they are left to strike out at anything that represents change from what they have been told to believe..It is really quite sad and I thank the powers that be that I am a liberal democrat who has always had an open free thinking mind and has never walked in lock step with political leaders..
This is just laughable to me.
Big tycoons wallowing in money. I'm sorry but I do believe that Obama is wallowing in money himself. He doesn't seem to have a problem with earmark spending, he wants the government to spend more money if he is elected, and he got the second highest amount of money from FMFM. To me....that doesn't show any change in how things are done now other than MORE government spending and we most absolutely cannot afford that.
I just think this is laughable.
Yes....I am angry. I'm angry at the government as a whole. Will I be angry if Obama wins.....no. I will be very upset though because I feel he lacks so much and his character should be investigated instead of swept under the rug.
I'm sure there will be some people who might throw a wrench into things just so Obama would look bad. But that goes both ways and to suggest that is just something pubs would do is ridiculous. The democrats have been the majority in congress and they have done jack sh1t here. They keep talking about changing things but they won't change things and actually do anything until one of their own gets in office because they surely don't want Bush to get credit for doing something good.
Also, I do believe it will be more likely that Obama and his supporters will raise holy he11 if Obama should lose. The race card will be thrown up into the air and I fear riots may break out. I do believe that there are people who will strictly NOT vote for Obama because he is black, but that doesn't define everyone voting against Obama. There are just as many people voting for Obama just because he is black and that isn't right either but it goes both ways. Just look at those video clips of Wright and Flager talking about blacks superiority and how whitey is evil and look at all those people cheering, standing up, and agreeing with those statements. Those are going to be the people to cause major destruction and start riots if Obama should lose and that is really scary.
We can't change what happens whatever it may be. I just hope and pray that both sides keep a cool head and don't do anything seriously stupid. No matter what happens we still have to stick together and try to make a better country for ourselves.
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This is a laughable source of
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Boy, is that a laughable remark, *the
Fox News! And you claim to be unbiased! You knew you were never unbiased. Even the *regular news* have now admitted they were in favor of Obama during the campaign, as if it was not evident!
Hahaha. you are laughable. Let me know when
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I did. A week vs 18 months? Laughable.
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Where in the world did you get that I am racist? That is laughable! sm
Nowhere, no way, do you have any indication that I am racist. I am not making fun of the disabled, I am making fun of you. The disabled have a reason for the way they behave - you're just silly by choice.
This post is laughable and pitiful
First of all, the FAKE war *was* lost before bush started it - and our standing in the world is likely permanently damaged because of it. So Reid is right when he says it's LOST. PUTTING COUNTRY FIRST means not staring fake wars that HURT our economy and kill innocent citizens and good soldiers. G-d forbid the war lovers get a clue or any education about what is really going on with U.S. foreign policy.
And Reid is saying is that McBush(cain) needed to 'BACK' the bailout - so that it would pass. Without his support, a bailout won't pass. Nothing 'wingnut' about this comment.
But OBAMA is right on this one: McCain needed to show he could/can multitask -its a joke to suggest he had to suspend his campaign in this crisis - simply do both by letting his VP candidate cover the campaign anytime he PHYSICALLY needed to be in DC to vote, etc.
BOTH PARTIES are politicizing this crisis BUT THEY ARE NOT TELLING you the truth - our economy is in trouble for a LOT of reasons - and they don't want you to know all of the reasons because then you'd understand how things *really* work in the good old US.
I use your words...this response is laughable...
and in many ways...yes...pitiful.
I don't know how any American can support any politician getting up and stating that a war still going on is lost. What a slap in the face for those with their lives on the line in Iraq. He should be ashamed. He is a representative of the United States of America. You think that comment did not enhearten the terrorists were were fighting? And yes, we were fighting AL Qaeda in Iraq within 2 weeks after going in, and I am sure that in your democratic talking points world you think they were able to mount an insurgency in that short a time and were not there until we went there. Pollyanna comes to mind.
War lovers. That is such a laughable and pitiful statement, won't go there other than to say NO ONE loves war. Good grief. Were you absent when the Iraq Liberation Bill was passed? During the Clinton administration, which he signed? Saying that Saddam should be removed? Clinton a war lover too? He went into Somalia...(Clinton)...soliders died there too. Remember them dragging the bodies behind Jeeps? Perhaps if he HAD fought the war there, there would have been no 9-11 and no Iraq invasion. I would suggest doing some real research before you start fling accusations.
As to Harry Reid...the wingnut comment is one day saying you have to support it, and when McCain comes to work on it, Harry Reid says go home. THAT is a wingnut flip flop no matter HOW you look at it.
Again with the multitasking...and this is the most laughable statement of all. We have an economy on the brink of crisis, and instead of Obama wanting to be right there to actually SEE the proposal being proposed, he prefers updates on his blackberry so he can continue to campaign. And you think he made the correct prioritization of his multitasking? Campaigning instead of trying to help the failing economy? You honestly think that was the correct prioritization??
It is not a secret why we are in this mess. Google fannie mae and freddie mac and see who has been warning about this very situation for years...that would be John McCain and the Bush administration. And who blocked it...Democrats, chiefly Chris Dodd and Barney Frank...and Obama advisor James Johnson who walked away from Fannie with millions after helping run it into the ground...Franklin Raines, another Obama advisor, walked away with millions after it was determined fannie had cooked the books. Did he do a day in jail? No...he PROFITED. Chris Dodd and Barack Obama the top two recipients of fannie mae/freddie mac contributions. Come ON.
We know who had a staggeringly large direct part in this mess we find ourselves in, and to hear them on TV accusing Republicans of being to blame and not acknowledging their direct involvement in it...is the HEIGHT of hypocrisy. Sorry, but that is the truth, no matter how pitiful and laughable YOU find it.
(Since when does making fun of a laughable candidate
to do with AIDS?) Do you even know anything about it? Robot, I don't think you have Clue-One.
Obama put those religious ties behind him. Hopefully SP can do the same.
What's laughable is the notion that the pubs
This coming from the party that gave us 8 years of W.
Gore is laughable and pathetic anyway.
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Obama's "Budget Cuts" Laughable
So - you think it's impressive that Obama plans to ask his department heads to cut $100,000,000 from their budgets? Let's put aside for a moment the question of why he's asking them for cuts at all when he's the one who says that MORE government spending is the solution to our economic crisis.
Obama is crowing about this because he knows that Americans don't know how to translate "huge" numbers into percentages, and also that Americans have grown used to hearing numbers in the $trillions. I mean - millions, billions, trillions all sound pretty much alike! Let's prove him wrong, shall we?
If Obama were asking for $100 million to be cut from a $3.5 billion budget, it would represent 1/35th of that budget. 1/35 is about 2.86%. So even on a $3.5 billion budget this wouldn't be much.
But wait. Obama's budget is $3.5 TRILLION, which is 1000 times larger. (A trillion is 1000 times larger than a billion.) Conversely, that makes $100 million a thousand times smaller of a percentage of the budget. In other words, we're not even talking about 2.86%, but one-thousandths of 2.86%. Here's what that looks like: 0.00286%.
In other words, if Obama made NEW cuts of $100,000,000 from his budget every day for over 300 days, he still wouldn't have even cut 1% from his budget. So you may now be forgiven if you're underwhelmed by Obama's $100 million budget cut.
It's kinda like someone crowing about how they've reduced their carbon footprint by disconnecting their doorbell. And this little object lesson showing how little $100,000,000 is compared to Mr. Obama's budget also gives you a little bit better idea just how disgustingly gargantuan his budget really is.
Me, sexist? That's laughable, being a very strong independent woman myself, but
I am afraid of a woman who has some sort of God complex and has nothing to lose. We should all be very afraid by somebody like that!
I do not think, with all the witnesses and evidence to the contrary, that this laughable, narcissist
say to help himself---what credibility does he have at all?? The only thing I give him points for is the amount of self-delusion he has been able to create for himself, what a piece of work!
He is still around, only with a new campaign. sm
See campaignforliberty.com. We have more than 100,000 members now and growing.
Even if they cannot vote for him, they should at least listen to what he has to say about the Fed and the economy, and people need to get involved. He is an economics genius. McCain did not even know what the PPT was when Dr. Paul asked him a question about it during one of the debates.
America has gone so far off track from what it is supposed to be and people are so uninformed, I honestly think they did not understand what he was trying to say. They labeled us as a fringe element for wanting to restore the Constitution. How pathetic is that? He was the thinking person's candidate.
Campaign
During my search for the Obama "messiah" discussion, I am just appalled at the nastiness of this campaign. As an INDEPENDENT, voting for Mr. Independent, my unbiased opinion is that the Republicans are running a nasty campaign based on half-truths and no truths. Just look at the nastiness on this board if anyone DARES speak a favorable word about Obama.
My intention this minute is to do a write-in vote for Lou Dobbs. Should it look as if McCain is going to win, I WILL switch and vote AGAINST John McCain and if that means a vote for Obama, well, so be it. I have already stated my objections to Obama and got myself in a peck of trouble for doing it!
This campaign
You know, I have never been so concerned about our election or our country in all my life. This really weighs heavy on me and I so hate seeing people on this board and others as well as people I come in contact every day so biased one way or the other they won't even begin to listen to any questions about their candidate. There are plenty of things about both candidates that really concern me. One thing that has been overlooked is that Congress plays a big part in what a president can and cannot do, although both the Republican led Congress and the present Democrat led Congress are failing the American people. It is my feeling they should have put the brakes on George W. Bush on many different occasions but instead they have given him free reign.
I agree with Lou Dobbs almost 100%. I agree that I'm for LEGAL immigration but ILLEGAL is quite another thing. Our wages are going down and our cost of living is going up, in large part due to the influx of illegals overloading our schools, our ERs and other public services. This is particularly true here in my part of the country where there are big businesses that demand the low-wage workers and our senator and representative vote against the will of the majority of citizens because the big biz is who owns them. I wonder if Lou Dobbs were elected president, what kind of president would he be. I was hoping he would run. At least we have a news commentator who tells it as it is on both sides.
It really concerns me that posters on this board are so busy fighting over the candidate they can't even discuss the issues. I always thought MTs were of above average intelligence but reading some of the posts here, I'm starting to rethink that thought. I've been out and around all day and came home looking forward to seeing what was new and danged if the fighting, backbiting and nastiness here isn't worse than it was this morning.
Do you really want to get into campaign fraud?
You really don't want to, because the left has a corner on that market One example is the DNC registering dead people in Detroit. You know, we could tit for tat all day long about these things, but the conspiracy that elections are fixed is just that, a conspiracy.
Your energies would best be served by trying to help the the schizophrenic Democratic party finding a unified vision and an action plan other than dissing the Republicans. It's not our fault you're losing it's yours. The article you posted proves that energies are being wasted on the wrong things. But really, I don't care if you lose just so you do.
I know his campaign is in big trouble.
Seems to me he thought he found something and before confirming it, he started appearing on talk shows. At the most, he knowingly lied and wanted to tell his base what they wanted to hear.
At the least, he's reckless and sloppy in his approach to things.
I suppose the true test of his character will be if he comes clean and admits he was wrong.
Other than that, I find it increasingly difficult on a daily basis to understand why some of these politicians do what they do, both Republican and Democrat alike.
sorry...I was repeating what his campaign was saying...
only of course they said African American, not black. Yes, I am fully aware he is biracial. But he himself identified himself as "black." Remember the "oh by the way he happens to be black" comment. He does not view himself as biracial. And whether or not he is black or biracial or white does not matter to me. Your opinion and mine differ. I do not think he is capable. There is a difference in running the country and showing up and voting present most of the time. I am not bashing him. It is just a fact...he has absolutely no foreign policy experience, and while Biden does, is he going to take Biden with him when he meets leaders of other countries? It IS a legitimate concern. Forget it is Obama. Think of him as Joe Blow from Kokimo. He doesn't have the experience, and being a great orator in prepared speeches will not get him far in the foreign policy area. And in the state this world is in now...we need someone with that experience...not in the second chair. In the FIRST chair. Just my opinion.
Wow....you should be in Barack's campaign...
you took one sentence out of what I said and spun it so hard I'm dizzy. LOL. How you got that I made an assumption that noncaucasian nonchristian people are incapable of thinking for themselves. You are the one who suggested that anyone who hates does so by choice because they won't think for themselves...?
Obama campaign
Obama opened a campaign headquarters in our town and one of the first things they did was to put a large poster in the window stating "Felons CAN vote." After an uproar, the sign was taken down, but it left a bad taste in a lot of mouths.
Campaign was already dead. That's why
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New campaign slogan: It's all about the O
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Different if it comes from a supporter or the campaign....
neither McCain or Obama can control what supporters do...but this ad was from the Obama campaign. And it flies in the face of everything Obama said he was NOT going to do.
Not as much as putting out an ad from your campaign...
with stamp of approval on it. That says more, in my opinion.
As far as Jewish people...Sarah Palin is going to the protest but on by Jewish leaders protesting Ahmadinejad addressing the UN...so McCain's campaign is supporting Jewish people there in a very public way. That also says a lot.
Coz that is illegal under campaign
finance law. Maybe McCain can allow homeless to stay in one of his 11 homes when he and Cindy are out flying in their personal jet?
He's not divisive, like you and your campaign
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How seriously should Americans take a campaign
Barack Obama was born in the United States and he is going to be your next president. Get over yourself.
NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN ADS
Obama has had 61% of his ads negative throughout his ENTIRE campaign........... McCain only for one week.
Obama spent 47 million on negative ads.....McCain 27 million.
Yea, poor 'ole Obama....... just keeping believing in this guy. He'll sell you to the middle east and you'll be feeding their camels.
It was a campaign mistake for her to go on
She wasn't funny. They made fun of her. I thought it was humiliating for her.
Maybe it's the way he and his campaign exploit POW
Besides that, GP is not the only one who takes issue with the POW experience. Ross Perot has a thing or two to say about McC, having footed the medical bills for Carol after her accident and watching McC trade her in on a new model when he returned, then turn around and apologizes on account of running for office. His own behavior goes a long way to cheapen the sacrifices he made.
More like a plant from the O campaign
What a better way to get a "racial thing" going. All the racial stuff is coming from the O side. McCain and Palin don't go there, but O sure knows how to use the race card.
Did you ever think it could be campaign fatigue on the
parts of both Palin and McCain. If that's a plausible excuse for Obama's "mistake," then why not the other mistakes, too.
They are a gimmick - just like his whole campaign was
He doesn't need those ugly fake coins to cheapen anything. They did that with their phony campaign promises and lies. Putting his picture up next to Washington & Kennedy is a disgrace, or as you said it a joke!
I noticed that myself. Yet during the campaign,
did he bring up his father at all? I don't remember him doing that. Now that he is the prez, he brings up a father he only met once or twice?
But face it, it was a half decent speech. If half the people that were there listen and learn, it would be worth it.
That was CAMPAIGN not COMPLAIN..(nm)
He also promised during his campaign that
any bill would be available online for 5 days for the public to look at before he signed it...of course, he's not doing that with the stimulus bill. Hmmm, wonder why? Boy Wonder is slowly shedding his Superhero suit and revealing himself.
Right, Obama said already during his campaign that
he will bring troops home from Iraq and send more troops to Afghanistan, because there the Taliban is gaining strength again, also Pakistan is increasingly involved, as the Taliban are hiding inside Pakistan, alongside the border.
It 'sizzles' in Afghanistan.
Campaign promises
I didn't vote for Obama, but didn't really like McCain much better. I feel that too many politicians say whatever it takes to get elected and then do whatever they want once getting into office. This goes for Congress, too, and I agreed with the other poster that said Congress is a big part of not letting presidents fullfill thier campaign promises. But it is a combination of both because they all promise basically the same things.
It would be interesting to see if Reagan kept his promises - I was just a young'un then and didn't really pay too much attention to politics - I see a research project! =)
By the way, I doubt you hear it enough, but thank you for being a part of our military and for your service overseas. Our men and women in the military are our country's greatest asset and are definitely people for our country to be proud of.
It's not a smear campaign and it's not a failure
The reality of what Mrs. or should I say Ms., Sheehan is doing speaks for itself. The Swift Boat thing surely didn't get your boy Kerry in the office now did it?
Geez.....Obama has a CAMPAIGN ad....
about issuing a windfall profits tax on oil companies (private profits, earned) and redistributing that to people as a freebie who did nothing to earn it. I didn't make that up. His campaign ad says it very clearly, in his own voice, and then it says "I am Barack Obama and I approved this message." An yes, they run the ad on Fox too, as well as most of the networks.
I have read his tax plan. What I didn't read is how he intends to pay for it. I would be asking the same questions if Hillary was running and saying the same things. But she isn't. He is.
His campaign has released several statements
stating that she was vetted. Just go to cnn.com and you can read them all there.
Here is a partial article (also explains that this was a rumor...that she had not been vetted:
Nicolle Wallace, a senior McCain adviser, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday that Palin disclosed her daughter's pregnancy during the vetting process, and that the McCain campaign had been forced to reveal the pregnancy publicly Monday because of "lewd and outrageously false rumors" spread by "Democratic-leaning blogs and a few in the mainstream" media. She did not identify them.
Since McCain publicly disclosed his running mate on Friday, the notion of a shoddy, rushed review has been stoked repeatedly.
First, a campaign-issued timeline said McCain initially met Palin in February, then held one phone conversation with her last week before inviting her to Arizona, where he met with her a second time and offered her the job Thursday.
Then came the campaign's disclosure that Palin's unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant. The father is Levi Johnston, who has been a hockey player at Bristol's high school, The New York Post and The New York Daily News reported in their Tuesday editions.
In addition, the campaign also disclosed that Palin's husband, Todd, then age 22, was arrested in 1986 in Alaska for driving under the influence of alcohol.
Shortly after Palin was named to the ticket, McCain's campaign dispatched a team of a dozen communications operatives and lawyers to Alaska. That fueled speculation that a comprehensive examination of Palin's record and past was incomplete and being done only after she was placed on the ticket.
Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser, said no matter who the nominee was, the campaign was ready to send a "jump team" to the No. 2's home state to work with the nominee's staff, work with the local media and help handle requests from the national media for information, and answer questions about documents that were part of the review.
At several points throughout the process, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Culvahouse disclosed details of his examination in a half-hour interview with the AP.
First, a team of some 25 people working under Culvahouse culled information from public sources for Palin and other prospective candidates without their knowledge. For all, news reports, speeches, financial and tax return disclosures, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces were reviewed.
For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state's largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn't request paper archives for Palin's hometown newspaper. "I made the decision that we could not get it done and maintain secrecy," Culvahouse said.
Reports, 40-some pages and single-spaced, on each candidate then were reviewed by McCain, Schmidt, campaign manager Rick Davis and top advisers Mark Salter and Charlie Black.
Among the details McCain's campaign found: Palin had once received a citation for fishing without a license.
Palin, like others on the short list, then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 "very intrusive" questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns, as well as any controversial articles she had written or interviews she had done. The campaign also checked her credit.
Then, Culvahouse conducted a nearly three-hour-long interview.
He said the first thing she volunteered was that her daughter was pregnant, and she also quickly disclosed her husband's DUI arrest.
Early on, the public search unearthed details of the investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that Palin ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.
Culvahouse said that he asked follow-up questions during the interview, and "spent a lot of time with her lawyer" on the matter.
"We came out of it knowing all that we could know at the time," he said.
As for the financial records review, Culvahouse said: "It was very clean. We had no issues there."
Throughout the process, the campaign said, Davis had multiple conversations with Palin.
Personally, I think this campaign season
is just getting more and more exciting. Imagine if an old man gets the Presidency, and his sidekick with absolutely no foreign policy experience ends up as President....very exciting....cannot get any more uncertain than that scenario.
during a primary campaign. Now that JB is onboard,
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Instead of listing to the media concerning the campaign,
why not just go here? This gives O's voting record.
http://obama.senate.gov/votes/index.cfm?start=1
Also, go here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query
Then, check how he voted and why.
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