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I do not think, with all the witnesses and evidence to the contrary, that this laughable, narcissist

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-01-26
In Reply to: Blagojevich on GMA - Old part-timer

say to help himself---what credibility does he have at all?? The only thing I give him points for is the amount of self-delusion he has been able to create for himself, what a piece of work!


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much evidence to the contrary
The original author has recanted that garbage and several other soldiers have written their accounts of how friendly Obama was, talking to the troops, thanking them for their service, etc. The author of that email wasn't even there. There are some pictures of Obama with the troops at the link below, about 2/3 of the way down the page. Was it a photo op? Oh, sure, but it proves the email author is a liar.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp
Should be *as* witnesses not *at*
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Jehovah's Witnesses Don't Either
Nothing suggestive here. A lot of relgions don't believe in commercialism. There's nothing UN-American here, find another bone to chew on.
Actually, it is. Contrary to what O would say...

DH and I are much better off than we were 4 years ago, which is why he is going to tax us for our hard work...probably to give it to you!


On the contrary, Observer...
I am using my right of free speech to encourage others to disregard what I believe to be a forum that you created for your own personal agenda. This is not the forum for debate between conservative and liberal points of view. This posting site is not titled "political debate". Nor is it supposed to provide fodder for you to chew on.

I will speak for most of us in that we do not have a lot of time in the day to try to strike up a conversation amongst ourselves under the liberal forum, and when we to get time to log on, we don't want to have to sift through it, and we shouldn't have to.

If political debate is your preferred forum, perhaps you should email admin to add another posting site to accommodate it?

If you can accomplish this, I would gladly log on and argue point to point with you, but until then I would appreciate it if you stayed on the conservative posting.
contrary to popular belief
Bush did not enact the Patriot Act.
No, it's not a human right.....contrary to your beliefs
marriage is supposed to be a gift from God for those that actually understand what that means in the first place. No where in the Bible does it talk about 2 men or 2 women having a relationship as blessed by God, but it sure tells us it is WRONG!

How do you manage to be so screwed up that you don't know the difference between homosexuality and difference in color of skin? Last time I checked, blacks go to school with whites and have for a long time, at least they do in my community.... blacks have every right whites have..... homosexuals have every right we ALL have.


Exactly the contrary is true. Israell
is the aggressor and the Palestinians are defending themselves.
All other presidents and Bush just closed their eyes to the fact that the Israelis disregarded the stipulations in former agreements, namely stopping the further construction of settlements and the building of the separation wall. Obama is the first president who follows up on this and demands from Netanyahu that he puts a complete stop to the spread of further settlements in the Westbank.
This is what the whole Arab world is expecting from Obama that 'actions' follow his words. O immediately sent his Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, again to the Middle East.
Exactly the contrary is true. Israell
is the aggressor and the Palestinians are defending themselves.
All other presidents and Bush just closed their eyes to the fact that the Israelis disregarded the stipulations in former agreements, namely stopping the further construction of settlements and the building of the separation wall. Obama is the first president who follows up on this and demands from Netanyahu that he puts a complete stop to the spread of further settlements in the Westbank.
This is what the whole Arab world is expecting from Obama that 'actions' follow his words. O immediately sent his Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, again to the Middle East.
I think exaclty the contrary is true!...nm
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On the contrary, it indicts the Bush admin...
...just as much as their refusal to listen to warnings from the outgoing Clinton administration about Al Qaeda, and just as much as Bush's initial refusal to appoint a 9/11 commission at all. It's totally consistent with the belief that they have tried to block any serious investigation into the events of 9/11 (and silence anyone who could shed some light on it). Business as usual for them! I'm glad that crappy hand-picked group of power suckups have all been caught with their pants down. If the MSM is ignoring the story at all it's not because it puts Clinton (you know, the one who actually caught and jailed real terrorists who were responsible for attacks right here in the US)in a bad light - if a story gets ignored these days it's because it has the potential to shame Bush further. If that's possible.
Contrary to popular belief.....the rich pay the
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Contrary to popular belief, O supporters
as their divine Savior. Rather, he is just a fine American who cares deeply about his country, running for the highest office in the land. He has the strength to step up to the plate, turn a blind eye toward all that would seek to destroy him and do his best to tackle the mop-up job after one of the most devastating administrations in the history of our country. More that this, we cannot ask. He is calm, thoughtful, inspiring, steady, intuitive and gifted with an uncanny ability to inspire millions of Americans in the throes of an economic collapse to unite behind the simple notion that we can do better, that we are at the dawn of a new day and that our shared imperative is to embrace optimism and confidence in ourselves and in his leadership. In comparison to his opponent, who would use shrub style politics of fear to scare us into voting for him and thinks nothing of igniting culture wars and stoking the fires of division for political gain, there is no contest. Obama deserves the respect he has gained and without a doubt, he the best man for the job.
quite laughable, I think
You know, Lilly, it has gotten to the point of pure ridiculousness..If I posted that the sky was blue, the neocons would say I am dissing God cause the sky is overcast today..or whatever..It has gotten so **out there** with their nasty hostile posts it is beyond belief.  LOL..I, however, can see the humor in it all because as their political beliefs and hopes crash around them, what can they do but strike out at strong democrats/liberals who believe in the complete opposite of what they have been brainwashed to believe..So sad.  Because they do not have open minds and are not able to judge things rationally and fairly, they are left to strike out at anything that represents change from what they have been told to believe..It is really quite sad and I thank the powers that be that I am a liberal democrat who has always had an open free thinking mind and has never walked in lock step with political leaders..
This is just laughable to me.
Big tycoons wallowing in money.  I'm sorry but I do believe that Obama is wallowing in money himself.  He doesn't seem to have a problem with earmark spending, he wants the government to spend more money if he is elected, and he got the second highest amount of money from FMFM.  To me....that doesn't show any change in how things are done now other than MORE government spending and we most absolutely cannot afford that. 
I just think this is laughable.

Yes....I am angry.  I'm angry at the government as a whole.  Will I be angry if Obama wins.....no.  I will be very upset though because I feel he lacks so much and his character should be investigated instead of swept under the rug. 


I'm sure there will be some people who might throw a wrench into things just so Obama would look bad.  But that goes both ways and to suggest that is just something pubs would do is ridiculous.  The democrats have been the majority in congress and they have done jack sh1t here.  They keep talking about changing things but they won't change things and actually do anything until one of their own gets in office because they surely don't want Bush to get credit for doing something good. 


Also, I do believe it will be more likely that Obama and his supporters will raise holy he11 if Obama should lose.  The race card will be thrown up into the air and I fear riots may break out.  I do believe that there are people who will strictly NOT vote for Obama because he is black, but that doesn't define everyone voting against Obama.  There are just as many people voting for Obama just because he is black and that isn't right either but it goes both ways.  Just look at those video clips of Wright and Flager talking about blacks superiority and how whitey is evil and look at all those people cheering, standing up, and agreeing with those statements.  Those are going to be the people to cause major destruction and start riots if Obama should lose and that is really scary.


We can't change what happens whatever it may be.  I just hope and pray that both sides keep a cool head and don't do anything seriously stupid. No matter what happens we still have to stick together and try to make a better country for ourselves.


this is laughable...nm
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This is a laughable source of
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Boy, is that a laughable remark, *the
Fox News! And you claim to be unbiased! You knew you were never unbiased. Even the *regular news* have now admitted they were in favor of Obama during the campaign, as if it was not evident!
Hahaha. you are laughable. Let me know when
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I did. A week vs 18 months? Laughable.
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Where in the world did you get that I am racist? That is laughable! sm
Nowhere, no way, do you have any indication that I am racist. I am not making fun of the disabled, I am making fun of you. The disabled have a reason for the way they behave - you're just silly by choice.
This post is laughable and pitiful
First of all, the FAKE war *was* lost before bush started it - and our standing in the world is likely permanently damaged because of it. So Reid is right when he says it's LOST. PUTTING COUNTRY FIRST means not staring fake wars that HURT our economy and kill innocent citizens and good soldiers. G-d forbid the war lovers get a clue or any education about what is really going on with U.S. foreign policy.


And Reid is saying is that McBush(cain) needed to 'BACK' the bailout - so that it would pass. Without his support, a bailout won't pass. Nothing 'wingnut' about this comment.

But OBAMA is right on this one: McCain needed to show he could/can multitask -its a joke to suggest he had to suspend his campaign in this crisis - simply do both by letting his VP candidate cover the campaign anytime he PHYSICALLY needed to be in DC to vote, etc.


BOTH PARTIES are politicizing this crisis BUT THEY ARE NOT TELLING you the truth - our economy is in trouble for a LOT of reasons - and they don't want you to know all of the reasons because then you'd understand how things *really* work in the good old US.


I use your words...this response is laughable...
and in many ways...yes...pitiful.

I don't know how any American can support any politician getting up and stating that a war still going on is lost. What a slap in the face for those with their lives on the line in Iraq. He should be ashamed. He is a representative of the United States of America. You think that comment did not enhearten the terrorists were were fighting? And yes, we were fighting AL Qaeda in Iraq within 2 weeks after going in, and I am sure that in your democratic talking points world you think they were able to mount an insurgency in that short a time and were not there until we went there. Pollyanna comes to mind.

War lovers. That is such a laughable and pitiful statement, won't go there other than to say NO ONE loves war. Good grief. Were you absent when the Iraq Liberation Bill was passed? During the Clinton administration, which he signed? Saying that Saddam should be removed? Clinton a war lover too? He went into Somalia...(Clinton)...soliders died there too. Remember them dragging the bodies behind Jeeps? Perhaps if he HAD fought the war there, there would have been no 9-11 and no Iraq invasion. I would suggest doing some real research before you start fling accusations.

As to Harry Reid...the wingnut comment is one day saying you have to support it, and when McCain comes to work on it, Harry Reid says go home. THAT is a wingnut flip flop no matter HOW you look at it.

Again with the multitasking...and this is the most laughable statement of all. We have an economy on the brink of crisis, and instead of Obama wanting to be right there to actually SEE the proposal being proposed, he prefers updates on his blackberry so he can continue to campaign. And you think he made the correct prioritization of his multitasking? Campaigning instead of trying to help the failing economy? You honestly think that was the correct prioritization??

It is not a secret why we are in this mess. Google fannie mae and freddie mac and see who has been warning about this very situation for years...that would be John McCain and the Bush administration. And who blocked it...Democrats, chiefly Chris Dodd and Barney Frank...and Obama advisor James Johnson who walked away from Fannie with millions after helping run it into the ground...Franklin Raines, another Obama advisor, walked away with millions after it was determined fannie had cooked the books. Did he do a day in jail? No...he PROFITED. Chris Dodd and Barack Obama the top two recipients of fannie mae/freddie mac contributions. Come ON.

We know who had a staggeringly large direct part in this mess we find ourselves in, and to hear them on TV accusing Republicans of being to blame and not acknowledging their direct involvement in it...is the HEIGHT of hypocrisy. Sorry, but that is the truth, no matter how pitiful and laughable YOU find it.
The suspension of his campaign was laughable
What was suspended? The talking heads were out there. The campaign offices were all open. Ads still ran (too late to pull) McCain brought campaign aides with him to the White House, not Senate aides. Campaign daily note was given to reporters.


(Since when does making fun of a laughable candidate
to do with AIDS?) Do you even know anything about it? Robot, I don't think you have Clue-One.

Obama put those religious ties behind him. Hopefully SP can do the same.
What's laughable is the notion that the pubs
This coming from the party that gave us 8 years of W.
Gore is laughable and pathetic anyway.
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Obama's "Budget Cuts" Laughable

So - you think it's impressive that Obama plans to ask his department heads to cut $100,000,000 from their budgets?  Let's put aside for a moment the question of why he's asking them for cuts at all when he's the one who says that MORE government spending is the solution to our economic crisis.


Obama is crowing about this because he knows that Americans don't know how to translate "huge" numbers into percentages, and also that Americans have grown used to hearing numbers in the $trillions.  I mean - millions, billions, trillions all sound pretty much alike!   Let's prove him wrong, shall we?


If Obama were asking for $100 million to be cut from a $3.5 billion budget, it would represent 1/35th of that budget.  1/35 is about 2.86%.  So even on a $3.5 billion budget this wouldn't be much.


But wait.  Obama's budget is $3.5 TRILLION, which is 1000 times larger. (A trillion is 1000 times larger than a billion.)  Conversely, that makes $100 million a thousand times smaller of a percentage of the budget.  In other words, we're not even talking about 2.86%, but one-thousandths of 2.86%.  Here's what that looks like:   0.00286%.


In other words, if Obama made NEW cuts of $100,000,000 from his budget every day for over 300 days, he still wouldn't have even cut 1% from his budget.  So you may now be forgiven if you're underwhelmed by Obama's $100 million budget cut. 


 It's kinda like someone crowing about how they've reduced their carbon footprint by disconnecting their doorbell.  And this little object lesson showing how little $100,000,000 is compared to Mr. Obama's budget also gives you a little bit better idea just how disgustingly gargantuan his budget really is.


Where is the evidence
and invisible WMD in Iraq? Link, please? Show me the documentation. The Iraqi highjackers were Saudis, but you probably don't want to talk about that 'cause chimpy has a thing for those Saudi guys enough to hold their hand in public in broad daylight on camera. It is you and the chimp boy's defenders who want it both ways. A bazillion dollars later we have 1900 dead soldiers, untold numbers of dead innocent Iraqis with their country on the brink of civil war and a breeding ground for more highjackers. Boy, I sure feel safer now.
What evidence do you have
been riding a snowball to hades since Roe vs. Wade*? How do you figure that? What morals exactly are you talking about...promiscuity?

Do you believe in the death penalty or is it your assertion that none of the people on death row are *innocent*?

If you are an advocate of personal privacy, how is it any of your/my/the government's business if Terry Schiavo did or did not get IV fluid, etc.?



the evidence

mounts.  Can't wait till this breaks.  Lying about your promiscious daughter.  That counts for 2 sins, does it not? Sometimes breeding with people too close in your family tree can produce birth defects.  I' m just sayin . . .


 


Look at the evidence.....
First, black liberation theology. Decidedly Marxist. Practiced Marxist policy in his community organization efforts. Wants to apply Marxist theory (redistribution of wealth).

Do me a favor. Go anywhere on the internet and read what Marxist theory is. Then apply it to first, black liberation theology, which he followed for 20 years in his church. The apply it to redistribution of wealth, which he already proposed. Then apply it to having the son of the premier Marxist in this country saying what a good job he did in learning good old dad's theories.

Look at all of that, and if it doesn't cause you at least as much concern as Sarah Palin's pregnant 17-year-old, there is something rotten in Denmark.

I am not a Republican, and I am not a Democrat, but I can put 2 and 2 together, and this bears looking at.

That is ALL I am saying.
If you would just look at the evidence....
Republicans tried to pass legislation to stop this very thing in 2006, and Bush Admin several times as well. These are McCain's words on the senate floor in May 2006:

Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

Allen Greenspan and John Snow
(The Fed and the treasury secretary) also on video trying to tell the Dem committee (Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, et al) the same thing, basically begging them to fix it. Barney Frank said he did not see the problem. And turned right around during this congress and passed legislation to push Fannie to give even MORE of those questionable mortgages to those people who could not afford them with little credit or no credit.

Dems ignored it, blocked the legislation. And those same people are still in charge of banking and finance, accepting no responsibility whatsoever.

They should be removed from those committees. And registered Democrats should be demanding it. And I don't understand why they aren't.
Me, sexist? That's laughable, being a very strong independent woman myself, but
I am afraid of a woman who has some sort of God complex and has nothing to lose.  We should all be very afraid by somebody like that!
well once there is evidence for creationism
but it's hard for me to believe in such a huge fairy tale!
evidence.......hmmmmm
Not everyone who believes in Jesus Christ learned so as a child. They were taught nothing as a child, let alone indoctrinated/brainwashed as you think. They came to know Jesus as an adult, while all the time questioning, denying, wondering, finding fault with everything God stands for.....you name it. There are many children in the Christian family who do not grow up to believe they were brainwashed and some that do. They question the Lord, which is exactly what God says to do.....to question Him. If you don't believe, then ask Him. So many don't and why?....because I think they're afraid they might get an answer. Then what would they do? You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Sometimes the evidence is right in front of us...we just fail to believe. Why do you think Jesus said to have faith the size of a mustard seed?
I see sam has yet to provide us with evidence

are going to be given to people who are not paying tax.  Show me what in his plan describes a refundable (AKA non-wastable) tax credit.  So far, all I can see is that sam does not understand the basic concepts of socialism, Marxism, tax cuts and tax credits.  Tax cuts are a reduction in taxes, based on lowering a tax rate.  You cannot reduce a rate on tax in the absence of tax due.  Tax credits for the most part are paid against TAXES DUE.  The 2 exceptions in the US are the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit 


So show me where Obama has said that his tax credit would be a refundable/non-wastable credit.  Also, naturally, I am still waiting for sam's answer to my original question on how it is that progressive tax reform is only socialist when it is Obama reform but no other president who has reformed the tax structure is a socialist?  Please answer that question and the one about the refundable tax credit.  Direct answers would be very much appreciated. 


What evidence do you have to back that up?
If you are bold enough to make a statement like that, at least be bold enough to back it up with some concrete evidence, not just your opinion!
What evidence do you have to back
If you are bold enough to make a statement like that, at least be bold enough to back it up with some concrete evidence, not just your opinion!
Anecdotal evidence
This is not a flame. You've declared that "...families that have babies they can't afford do so just to get on the welfare system. As long as they have babies, they won't have to work and live off the system..." and your evidence is your husband's cousin. If you want to know the particulars of the program, why don't you look it up instead of attributing statements to Nancy Pelosi that have absolutely no bearing on the truth?
more evidence that the prez

really does need that teleprompter to get it right . . . What's this I hear about him being such a great orator?  Sorry, but I think not.   


Obama apologizes for gaffe on Special Olympics


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has apologized for a gaffe in which he described his bowling skills as akin to participants in the Special Olympics, a sports program for people with intellectual disabilities.




Obama made the mistake during an interview on Thursday night on "The Tonight Show" with host Jay Leno, the first time a sitting U.S. president had been on the show.


Talking about living in the White House, Obama said he had been practicing his bowling in the home's bowling alley and had scored a 129 out of a possible 300.


It was an improvement on the embarrassing 37 he had rolled during a stop on the presidential campaign trail a year ago.


"It's like -- it was like Special Olympics or something," Obama said.


The Special Olympics is a global nonprofit organization serving some 200 million people with intellectual disabilities, with a presence in nearly 200 countries worldwide. They compete in sporting events like the real Olympics.


Soon after the Jay Leno interview, Obama telephoned Special Olympics chairman Tim Shriver to apologize.


Shriver told ABC's "Good Morning America" television show that Obama had apologized "in a way that I think was very moving" and that he said "he did not intend to humiliate the population, didn't want to embarrass or give anybody any more reason for pain or kind of suffering."


Shriver said people should gain a lesson from the incident.


"I think it's important to see that words hurt. Words do matter. And these words in some respect, can be seen as humiliating or a put-down to people with special needs, do cause pain. And they do result in stereotypes," Shriver said.


White House spokesman Bill Burton said Obama "made an offhand remark making fun of his own bowling that was in no way intended to disparage the Special Olympics."


"He thinks that the Special Olympics are a wonderful program that gives an opportunity to shine to people with disabilities from around the world," Burton said.


Shriver said he knows of a Special Olympian in the Detroit area who has bowled three perfect games of 300 and "he said he would be more than welcome to find the time to come to the White House and teach the president."


(Reporting by Caren Bohan and Steve Holland, editing by Vicki Allen)



More evidence of right-wingers
.
Please provide factual evidence of this...

....but MUST be from a nonpartison source absolutely.  Actually I thought it was just as much the case with the Republican party, but I freely admit that I have no concrete statistics at this point to back that up. 


 


Did you examine the evidence, or is article enough? nm
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O has already provided valid evidence and
fanatics to hound and stalk him like hunted prey. Fanatics also unsuccessfully tried to use the guilt by association argument to win the election. It did not work then and is will not help them now.
What you say is true, but if relevant evidence is denied sm
or falsified, an objective approach is impossible. This is what the family members faced. They had to force Bush to form that commission to investigate. Coulter is now attacking them for that. They had a list of 400 questions, and got no answers. I agree with you on the wacky theories. I became interested in doing some research on the issue after hearing things around the area I live - Colorado Springs. This is the neocon capital of the United States, and home to Norad and Space Command, Ft. Carson, USAFA, Peterson AFB, Falcon AFB. They live and breathe Bush & military. At first, I thought they were only rumors. Norman Mineta's testimony to the 911 Commission confirmed them to be true. The second question I had was about WTC building 7. This building only had small fires and was not hit by an airplane. It came straight down like the other 2 into a nice neat pile. The owner of the building Silverstein said they made a decision to pull it. This is a demolition term for demolishing the building. Well, this is something that takes careful planning weeks in advance, not several hours. I am also hearing bizarre stories from troops returning from Irag and their family members. Mineta's testimony was shown on C-Span and here is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y&search=mineta

I never saw the movie The Siege. Not a Bruce Willis fan. Anything with Matt McConaughey in it, I have seen.

Former CIA Analyst Says Evidence Abounds for Impeachment

Former CIA Analyst Says Evidence Abounds for Impeachment


by Gretyl Macalaster


PORTSMOUTH - The evidence for impeachment of the president and vice president is overwhelming, former CIA analyst and daily presidential briefer Ray McGovern told a room full of people at the Portsmouth Public Library Monday night.


McGovern, who provided daily briefings for former presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush as well as other high ranking officials during his 27 year CIA career, said he has witnessed a "prostitution of his profession" as the Bush administration lied to the American people about the evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.


"Don’t let anyone tell you the President was deceived by false intelligence … they knew," McGovern said.


For the next 40 minutes, he relayed a series of events leading up to 9/11 which illustrate the President’s desire to go to war with Iraq well before 9-11, that reliable CIA evidence showed that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and was presented to the administration and the "facts were fixed" in order to legitimize the invasion.


"The estimate which said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was prepared to the terms of reference laid down by Cheney in a speech on Aug. 26, 2002. It was the worst estimate of intelligence and came to the wrong conclusions, but it was designed to do that," McGovern said.


McGovern has been an outspoken commentator on intelligence-related issues since the late 1990s and since 2002 has been publicly critical of Bush’s use of government intelligence in the lead-up to the war.


The recent report detailing Iran’s stopping its nuclear weapons program four years ago, is an example of how the administration knows it can no longer hide such "incontrovertible evidence" from the American people in the fallout from the misinformation they received on the Iraq War, McGovern said. He added that he had almost given up on believing their were people still working at the top with a conscious and enough people at the top willing to let analysts do their job and accept independent analysis.


In late 2005, Congress requested an estimate on Iranian nuclear capabilities.
"My former colleagues got really good, incontrovertible evidence that the program, such as it was, has been ordered stopped since 2003. The evidence was such that not even Cheney could deny it. That’s why the report was not produced until three weeks ago," McGovern said, adding that the Bush administration has been putting "spin" on their rhetoric ever since.


McGovern also addressed the reasoning he believes is behind the threat of war with Iran. He said he believes Israel thinks they have a pledge from the White House to deal with Iran before Bush leaves office and relayed the story of the U.S.S. Liberty, which was attacked by the Israelis in 1967 and covered up by the United States. Thirty-four U.S soldiers were killed and about 170 were seriously injured.


"It seems to me, that on June, 8, 1967, Israel realized it could literally get away with murder," McGovern said.


McGovern said he also believes Congress will be of little help. Recently House Speaker Nancy Pelosi admitted to learning about torture and illegal eavesdropping in briefings, but said it was her understanding when briefed, that she will not share the information with anyone else, including other members of the House Intelligence Committee.


McGovern called Pelosi out on violating her oath to uphold the Constitution "against enemies, foreign or domestic" by allowing acts in violation of the Constitution to continue by not saying "diddly."


He added that although an impeachment bill currently in Congress is gaining more support, Democrats are shying away because of the influence of lobbies and political analysts telling them to "wait it out" until the election.


Charges in the impeachment bill sponsored by Dennis Kucinich, are very detailed and "as good as any," McGovern said, and referenced the illegal eavesdropping of American citizens. He added that the President has "admitted" to this "demonstrably impeachable offense."


"The argument for impeachment is overwhelming," Randy Kezar of Kingston said after the event. "Impeachment is constitutionally required."


McGovern’s visit was co-sponsored by NH Codepink, Seacoast Peace Response, NH Peace Action, NH American Friends Service Committee, Seacoast 9-11 Questions Group, NH Veterans for Peace and Witness for Peace-N.E.


facts, evidence, science, and reason
Hasn't worked so well lately, has it?
They are continuously finding evidence through DNA testing
that an innocent person was executed.
'NY Post' Cites Evidence That Ann Coulter ...sm

What a coincidence?


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'NY Post' Cites Evidence That Ann Coulter Plagiarized Parts of Book, Columns

By E&P Staff

Published: July 02, 2006 7:35 PM ET

NEW YORK Well, Ann Coulter may be liberal in one respect, anyway. The New York Post reported Sunday that author/columnist Coulter cribbed liberally in her latest book and also in several of her syndicated columns, according to a plagiarism expert.

John Barrie, creator of the iThenticate plagiarism-probing system, claimed he found at least three examples of what he called textbook plagiarism in the new Coulter book Godless after he ran its text through the program.

He also discovered verbatim copying in Coulter's weekly column, which is syndicated to more than 100 newspapers by Universal.

The headline in classic Post fashion: COPYCATTY COULTER PILFERS PROSE: PRO

Bloggers had been citing examples of alleged Coulter cribbing for months.

After detailing some of the alleged plagiarism in the book, the Post article related that Barrie also ran Coulter's columns from the past year through iThenticate and found similar patterns of cribbing.

Her Aug. 3, 2005, column, 'Read My Lips: No New Liberals,' about U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter, includes six passages, ranging from 10 to 48 words each, that appeared 15 years earlier in the same order in an L.A. Times article, headlined 'Liberals Leery as New Clues Surface on Souter's Views.' But nowhere in that column does she mention the L.A. Times or the story's writer, David G. Savage.

Her June 29, 2005, column, 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Religion,' incorporates 10 facts on National Endowment for the Arts-funded work that originally appeared in the same order in a 1991 Heritage Foundation report, 'The National Endowment for the Arts: Misusing Taxpayers' Money.' But again, the Heritage Foundation isn't credited.

Barrie said, Just as Coulter plays free and loose with her citations in 'Godless,' she obviously does the same in her columns.



Meanwhile, many of the 344 citations Coulter includes in Godless are very misleading, said Barrie, who holds a Ph.D. from the University of California at Berkeley, where he specialized in pattern recognition.

They're used purely to try and give the book a higher level of credibility - as if it's an academic work. But her sloppiness in failing to properly attribute many other passages strips it of nearly all its academic merits, he told The Post.


Coulter did not respond to requests for comment.