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They e basically being saying the same thing for days, that is why I am...

Posted By: so confused. nm on 2008-10-01
In Reply to: Is Obama starting to embrace McCain's thoughts and plans? - Backwards typist

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So basically it's a freedom of speech thing?
That's a scary thought! It would be illegal to say you're against people who are pedophiles? Because according to this bill (if this is what it means) they have the same rights as gay people.
So basically it's a freedom of speech thing?
That's a scary thought! It would be illegal to say you're against people who are pedophiles? Because according to this bill (if this is what it means) they have the same rights as gay people.
Nope, 4 years 11 days (1471 days or 1383 til 11/4/2012)
You do really need to learn how to count until 11/4/2012 or 1/20/2013.

Also, sorry to hear in four years you won't care anymore.
What part of 60-plus days of his first 100 days...sm
don't you understand. I think it's obvious to anyone actually researching his movements what his main goals are - and I don't in my wildest dreams see how in the world he can keep spending as he has been and wants to continue doing and cut the deficit in half by end of his term. IMO his chances are running out quickly. God help us all!
Basically,

Get off my back is about as simple as I can put it.  I never said Laura Bush was drunk, so I don't see why you keep responding to my posts asking me to post a credible link to prove this.


There are "internet rumors" about her being drunk, mostly on liberal sites. 


The link I posted in this thread is for liberal entertainment a "what if it was Hillary idea" so to speak.  What I find ironic and even hypocritical is how you boast on the "TRUTH" in the "you probably are a liberal if..." article on the neocon board, but then come over here and throw your weight around about my post (the thread we're in now - let's not get it confused).


Hope you can understand this better, or even better you are staying on the conservative board so you will not get this response.  Geez Louise.


You basically got that right.nm
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Okay, so basically what you are saying is that

in a nutshell...  


I think we need change and I'm sure Obama will make mistakes, but McCain might as well said "I totally disrespect women."  By picking Palin with no experience tells me he doesn't really care.  JMO.


Protestwarrior.com is basically pro-war.
Read their website. Many of the conservatives are members on the conservative board.
Basically, that is what I am digging for...what you just said...
I am a registered Independent as well. I am a conservative, registered as an independent, and towing party lines for the sake of doing so is not for me either. When I said the "far left wing of the Democratic party"....I meant within that party are so-called far left wing, moderate Democrats and Conservative Democrats...according to the Democrats I have spoken with. And, as you say...it is the same with Republicans. Not all Republicans are conservative...Guiliani isn't. Thank you for your honest answers. Just trying to learn. Whatever we call ourselves politically, we are all Americans...just wanting to understand individuals and what they believe. Thank you again.
So basically anyone who does not agree...
with Mr. Obama is talking garbage....how open-minded of you. If Obama stood up and said "destroy all who disagree with me" would you be the first one to go after your shovel to storm the castle? LOL. Geeezzzzz. lol.
Basically what that means is (sm)
that the Dems have a majority so the Repubs can fillibuster all they want to, but when it comes to the final vote, if every Dem votes yes and every Repub votes no, the yes vote goes through because there would be more yes votes. It's just that there are more Dems than Repubs - they have the majority vote, just not enough to stop a fillibuster.
That's basically it in a nutshell. - sm
It truly doesn't matter. None of it. We citizens lose, no matter what happens.
Basically we do only have 2 choices s/m
Our whole election process needs to be revamped.  To start with how about doing away with the electoral college?  The popular vote should do just fine.  Then there was the matter of redistricting under Clinton?  Bush Sr?  Junior?  Bush Sr, I think, since the redistricting made it easier for the Republicans to win the electoral college vote.  Our government corruption, I believe, begins with the election process.
So basically we are screwed either

way this plays out?  My biggest fear is having democrats in total control of everything.  I don't like idea at all.  I know a lot of people are just wanting to get republicans out of the way since they blame Bush for everything. 


The big picture is that government as a whole (all parties) were involved in this crisis and it really is going to take all parties to pull us out.  We need a split to keep things under control.  Our country cannot afford to let everything go extreme left like it appears to be doing.  We need some contrast and balance.  If Obama were more middle of the road and not so extreme left.....I might consider voting for him.  But he is way too extreme left for me.  As a conservative.....I don't like that at all. 


So, you would basically destroy the US, (sm)

I think splitting the country up like that would do much more harm than good.  We would wind up in the same situation as in the middle east....just a bunch of small factions (if you will) and total loss of control.  Not one of these individual factions would be able to fend off foreign threats, much less threats from other factions.  Individual factions would not be able to compete in a global economy.  We have gained the power that we currently have by being a united country, and that would be totally lost.  This would put us back to civil war days and in my opinion would not serve any real purpose other than to appease those who encourage separation of the country now.


Basically, you do have to be compensated......... sm
but if you want to keep your land because, for example, it is family land or your source of income, etc., you would lose it anyway.

Eminent domain
What you just said is basically racist.
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So basically the poorer I stay
the more I get?

Talk about your backwards logic!


Here is a whole list that basically fits

antichrist which some believe it could be the O.  I had a study if this in the Book of Daniel, not only in Revelations.  No matter who it is, better be ready.  Some state middle age, 40's and 50's. 


http://www.theprophecies.com/antichrist.html


Basically, it is the Democrats' fault...
if they would stop with the "gimme" programs and attach all of it to the public works that Obama is concerned about, make them accept a little responsibility with the free health care, foodstamps, and welfare checks...in hopes of getting them OFF those things...THEN Democrats would be doing something GOOD for people. Try lifting them OUT of poverty and teach them to work for what they get instead of REWARDING them for staying in poverty?? Hellooooo???
Basically it is the dems fault.
They are the ones who pushed the bailout of Wall Street. They are the ones who is giving more towards the bailout. They are the ones who made up this whole stimulus package that they are trying to push through by FRIDAY.. tomorrow. They promised O that this will pass with or without pub support. So, who's fault is it? The independent party?
Ogden basically feels that

censorship is unconstitutional.  That was his reason for not having restrictions on certain websites in libraries and schools.  However, as a parent, I do not feel comfortable knowing that people can go to porn sites in libraries where my child might see this or at school where children might pull this stuff up.  If people want to look at porn on the internet, they can feel free to buy their own computer and watch it from the privacy of their home, but not where children can see.  Also, I do not see why it was important to Ogden to oppose a law stating porn distributors had to verify with documentation the age of their models.  Doing away with this law would make child pornography easier to do.  Having a law making them prove the models age, to me, is a responsible thing to do and also will prevent underage children being used in lewd sexual acts. 


I just cannot support a man who would not allow restrictions for obscene sights in public libraries and schools and not see why it is important to have laws to verify that a person is of legal age to be involved in pornography. 


Seriously, pornography is intended for the privacy of our homes with adults.  Not in public places or involving children whether those children be watching or actually involved in the porn.


This is not a personal attack on Obama.  I honestly wouldn't like anyone if they had these views on pornography.  I personally feel that all appointees should be scrutinized whether it be dem or pub.  I think if we hold them to higher standards than we have, maybe we will start getting some honest people in Washington.


So basically we shouldn't capture

anyone for fear of picking up an innocent person.  Kind of hard to do that since most of these terrorists blend right in with civilians and have no problem using civilians as human shields. 


You still have not answered my question about how many in Gitmo were "tortured." 


So there are no innocent people in our local prisons?  I'm sure there are some but the majority of them are guilty.......just like Gitmo.


What was done was done in an attempt to protect Americans whether you want to believe that or not.  Terrorists are NOT covered under the Geneva Convention.  How fast we forget the horrible things that were done to use by terrorists.  We weren't waterboarded or electrocuted.  We were either beheaded or just simply blown up.  Which would you prefer? 


I believe that it refers to the work ethic basically...
not everyone is born rich, and we all have choices in life. We can "pull ourselves up with our bootstraps," work hard and try to get head, and it has worked for generation after generation of Americans. It worked for Barack Obama. He is someone who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, came from a very middle class family, worked through school, worked for scholarships, borrowed money, got an education and he is running for President of the United States.

Sarah Palin grew up as a child of two teachers in Alaska. She worked her way up, eventually worked as a sportscaster, then decided to work in public service because she wanted to serve. She started as a community advisor (same way Obama did), moved up to City council, to Mayor, then to governor, and now she is running for Vice President of the United States.

That is pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and succeeding, working hard for everything you got and not expecting someone to hand it to you.

That is what bootstrapping means to me.


Obama is basically a socialist. Look at his record
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Obama's tax plan basically takes away any
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But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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after two days

of contemplation, I offer my opinion regarding the repub veep.  It is all just so much manufactured hype.  Unfortunately, repubs have had nothing to get excited about and had to watch on the sidelines as a hope and delight swept through the nation.  The repubs did kind of a bizarro world imitation of the real movement and forced McCain to pick a person he had met twice to create headlines.  Unfortunately, the hoopla is based on nothing.  It will die down soon and the Obama train will keep on rolling. The Jewish people will certainly not vote for a person who supported Pat Buchanan the rabid anti-semite.  Our older veterans will not take the chance of having a person in power who has not thought about foreign policy because she was too busy suing Bush to get the polar bears taken off the endangered list.   Mark my words, in 2 weeks the repubs will be chasing some pre-school friend of Obama in order to create another sensation.


Does anybody else, have days that you just wish...sm
could turn on the TV or the computer, and not hear something political....from either side....for just one day?

I think most people have made up their minds, or are close to it. But we get pounded every single day, by the candidates themselves, analyses of the candidates, ads that are misleading (by both parties, I believe, at times)....smear tactics...he said, she said.....I think that they meant..... etc......well, you all get my drift.

I'm to the point that I really only want to watch the debates, to see how they hold up there.

Anyways, I'm super busy this week, and anytime I even venture into where the TV is, my husband is watching financial shows on in the background, and gosh darn it, even all they do is interject political views.



Is it almost November yet???







The days of (sm)
ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country are long gone. Now it's all about gimmie. You're right, Kendra, it should be serious and respectful, but I'm afraid there's not much of that left these days, particularly for those in the government.
With less than two days to go
I just want to say a few final things. First off, I respect everyone's opinions on this board. The great thing about America is that we have the right to free speech. I just hope that we continue to have that right.

Tomorrow is supposed to be a day of fasting and prayer for those who do this. I hope that everyone who believes will be praying to God to put the right candidate in the white house. While many of us feel that it would be God's choice to have Mccain, there have been to many times when I have thought that God would have it one way and it's been the other. While I know that based on the Bible God would want me to vote against abortion and gay marriage, I still believe that if Obama wins he will be able to use him. If anything to bring the church to their knees and really seek forgiveness and revival.

While I am not voting for Obama, I will pray that he is kept safe. There are many people who will want to harm him simply for the color of his skin, and in this day in age that is awful, but still true nonetheless.

I hope that no matter the outcome of this election, we citizens can learn to put differences and party lines aside and work together to better this nation. Whoever wins is stepping into a big mess THAT BOTH SIDES HAVE CREATED and at some point we are ALL responsible for.

Lastly, I hope that after the election the tempers and name calling on this board can cease. We need to debate without bashing. I am just as guilty of getting hot tempered as anyone else, and I apologize for anytime I was out of line.

We are still in for some rough times, folks. I pray that God will keep us and help us through these troubled times.

Last but not least....

Good Luck to Mccain supporters, well wishes to Obama supporters! javascript:editor_insertHTML('text',''); LOL
76 more days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SESr9D5Gd7A
Those were the days
There is no doubt in my mind that MQ is more profitable for the top level than TL ever was.  This is why it makes me so angry when people bash unions.  Without workers banding together and bargaining greed takes over and rich is never rich enough apparently.   I saw that a-hole Bill Gates testifying before Congress that he needed more top level (CHEAPER) workers because there weren't enough qualified Americans......sound familiar?  Unions may not be perfect but every benefit older workers like you and I received was won by the sweat of union workers who were willing to stand up for what was right and the benefits they won benefited even MTs, whether the newbies care to agree or not.  Unfortunately the unions have also become greedy and they care more about dues paying members than the rights of workers.  Just look at AAMT or whatever they call themselves now, they don't give a hoot about American MTs, they care about dues paying members whether they be Americans or Ethiopians!!!    AAARRRG.  I'm going to bed now.  I have a presentation to make to the Kiwanis at noon tomorrow which I had better get up early and prepare for or maybe I'll just wing it.  LOL
Only 16 more days!

Only 15 more days to go!
        
100 Days

Interesting analysis. I'll just link to it since it would take far too long to list all of  Obama's screwups here. 


http://www.nypost.com/seven/04252009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/100_days__100_mistakes_166177.htm


It sure is! Why, just a few days ago, you could buy

That's right China. We basically support China in everyway, and
don't hear two words uttered about their communist society. But, no mention of any wrong doing from China, I mean where else can you get a shirt made for ten cents?

Robertson though has hijacked a good Christian show (I guess it's his show), but it would be a good show to watch if he wasn't on there throwing politics everywhere. I don't like the mix.
I do agree we are in the last days.
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scary days

I will not vote republican for multiple reasons going back to the Reagun administration and I think Palin is a joke. It's like Dubya trying to put Harriett Myers on the supreme court - WHAT!!!!!  Lies? Lets talk about lies. Like being led into a war with no end in sight due to LIES. Our children being slaughtered in that country for nothing - except maybe oil. Tax cuts? I don't know about you, but I'm not in the upper 10% tax bracket, so I didn't reap any benefits from the so-called "tax breaks." Lets not forget the worst deficit this country has ever seen all due to Dubya's reckless spending. And never, never, never forget Katrina. That was genocide. Let's toss in Bill Clinton's "sexual misconduct." Hmmm.....I don't want anyone in my bedroom. That was Hillary's problem - not the country's. But we have Foley playing footsie with the congressional pages, whatshisname and his wide stance in airport bathrooms and don't forget that religious nut who was good buddies with Dubya and visited the white house on occasion that was snorting meth and having sex with a male prostitute. How's that for family values????? No child left behind? What a crock. We have been manipulated over and over by the current administration as well as by the media. They swallowed the Kool-Aid, too; until Katrina. It took that disaster to open their eyes, but they seem to have closed again. We have the patriot act, no habeas corpus and if the republicans get in again, they will line up the supreme court with their right-wing fanatics who think that everyone should abide by their MORAL rules. You cannot legislate morality. And anyone with half a brain would realize that abstinence does not WORK. Palin's daughter for example. Take away birth control, take away abortion - who's going to pay for all of these kids? The republicans aren't going to fund any programs to help them. Lets just step back 50 years and start all over again. My God! Wake up!  You'll find more babies in dumpsters and illegal abortions will wend their way back into society creating more misery and death. I value my rights. I value the right to decide what is best for me. I don't think it is the right of our government to determine the outcome of my life. I guess it does take 8 years to ruin a country. Look how divisive everyone is. Voting republican is voting against your own best interests. The trickle down theory DOES NOT WORK. You will not benefit from any of these proposals - they are proposed to keep big corporations and greed on the upswing. My parents retired with good pensions - will you? My parents had great insurance that paid the WHOLE bill - do you? My mother made more money when she retired (20 years ago) than I do currently. Wages have not gone up. Gas has gone up. Groceries have gone up. The cost of living has gone up as well as insurance policies, medications. Corporate America treats its employees like slaves. There is no compassion - just greed. Vote republican and you will fall on your own sword. Bill Maher said it best "Americans are stupid and are getting stupider; they deserve the leader they elect." I am praying Obama who graduated from Harvard due to his own sweat and hard work gets elected. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he knows what it is like to be on the ugly end of the stick. 


5 days and counting

Why won't Sarah Palin answer a spontaneous question from the press?  What is this candidate hiding?  How date the elitist repub party think they can railroad a candidate by us by dressing her in a skirt.


Meet the Press, Time Magazine, Today Show, Newsweek, George Stepanoupoulous. No soft balls like the View, Barbra WaaWaa or Fox propaganda machine.  We must stand up and demand answers from the repubs.  This is OUR country - demand accountability.


 


That was then and this is now...He just said it today of ALL days!!! sm
WHY WOULD anyone in their RIGHT MIND say such a thing TODAY of all days???? Unless they were completely out of touch with the people of America and what they're going through.

He is another Bush - PERIOD.
He WAS a good man. But his best days

Not the happiest new 13 days out.
xoxoxooo
for 3 days he's been fixing to get there?

These campaigns can fly someone across the country in mere hours, yet he TALKS about going for 3 days?  Of course, there's speculation that Obama wants to pilfer that house to find whatever documents are there that prove he wasn't born in the US.  Before you start flaming (like I really care, anyway), a life-long ACLU Democrat, etc. (Berg) has an interview on michaelsavage.com (the soundfile).  I heard it yesterday so didn't need to access it, but a friend of mine who has been on this issue for ages wanted to hear it.  Savages w/s was bombarded.  It may be available now. 


When Rush's Mother was at the end of her life, he broadcast for the duration in secret from Cape Gerardo.  I think it was 2 months.  It's something you just do and don't need to announce it to everyone. 


 


Ahh yes, GP - I remember those days too!!

no one could have told me that this industry would be like this 25-30 years ago....sad..


Only 18 more days, and counting!

Only 17 more days, and the evil

You mean 14 days....you still can't count

As of 1 pm EST only 11 days and 22 hours to go
Now if we can just keep W's hands off any fountain pens, we're home free. 
And 1473 days - woo hoo
As for the fountain pen issue - I highly doubt it. Remember the damage clinton did up til he left office. I wouldn't hold your breath.