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So basically we shouldn't capture

Posted By: sm on 2009-06-20
In Reply to: An even better question...(sm) - Just the big bad

anyone for fear of picking up an innocent person.  Kind of hard to do that since most of these terrorists blend right in with civilians and have no problem using civilians as human shields. 


You still have not answered my question about how many in Gitmo were "tortured." 


So there are no innocent people in our local prisons?  I'm sure there are some but the majority of them are guilty.......just like Gitmo.


What was done was done in an attempt to protect Americans whether you want to believe that or not.  Terrorists are NOT covered under the Geneva Convention.  How fast we forget the horrible things that were done to use by terrorists.  We weren't waterboarded or electrocuted.  We were either beheaded or just simply blown up.  Which would you prefer? 




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Basically,

Get off my back is about as simple as I can put it.  I never said Laura Bush was drunk, so I don't see why you keep responding to my posts asking me to post a credible link to prove this.


There are "internet rumors" about her being drunk, mostly on liberal sites. 


The link I posted in this thread is for liberal entertainment a "what if it was Hillary idea" so to speak.  What I find ironic and even hypocritical is how you boast on the "TRUTH" in the "you probably are a liberal if..." article on the neocon board, but then come over here and throw your weight around about my post (the thread we're in now - let's not get it confused).


Hope you can understand this better, or even better you are staying on the conservative board so you will not get this response.  Geez Louise.


You basically got that right.nm
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Okay, so basically what you are saying is that

in a nutshell...  


I think we need change and I'm sure Obama will make mistakes, but McCain might as well said "I totally disrespect women."  By picking Palin with no experience tells me he doesn't really care.  JMO.


Protestwarrior.com is basically pro-war.
Read their website. Many of the conservatives are members on the conservative board.
Basically, that is what I am digging for...what you just said...
I am a registered Independent as well. I am a conservative, registered as an independent, and towing party lines for the sake of doing so is not for me either. When I said the "far left wing of the Democratic party"....I meant within that party are so-called far left wing, moderate Democrats and Conservative Democrats...according to the Democrats I have spoken with. And, as you say...it is the same with Republicans. Not all Republicans are conservative...Guiliani isn't. Thank you for your honest answers. Just trying to learn. Whatever we call ourselves politically, we are all Americans...just wanting to understand individuals and what they believe. Thank you again.
So basically anyone who does not agree...
with Mr. Obama is talking garbage....how open-minded of you. If Obama stood up and said "destroy all who disagree with me" would you be the first one to go after your shovel to storm the castle? LOL. Geeezzzzz. lol.
Basically what that means is (sm)
that the Dems have a majority so the Repubs can fillibuster all they want to, but when it comes to the final vote, if every Dem votes yes and every Repub votes no, the yes vote goes through because there would be more yes votes. It's just that there are more Dems than Repubs - they have the majority vote, just not enough to stop a fillibuster.
That's basically it in a nutshell. - sm
It truly doesn't matter. None of it. We citizens lose, no matter what happens.
Basically we do only have 2 choices s/m
Our whole election process needs to be revamped.  To start with how about doing away with the electoral college?  The popular vote should do just fine.  Then there was the matter of redistricting under Clinton?  Bush Sr?  Junior?  Bush Sr, I think, since the redistricting made it easier for the Republicans to win the electoral college vote.  Our government corruption, I believe, begins with the election process.
So basically we are screwed either

way this plays out?  My biggest fear is having democrats in total control of everything.  I don't like idea at all.  I know a lot of people are just wanting to get republicans out of the way since they blame Bush for everything. 


The big picture is that government as a whole (all parties) were involved in this crisis and it really is going to take all parties to pull us out.  We need a split to keep things under control.  Our country cannot afford to let everything go extreme left like it appears to be doing.  We need some contrast and balance.  If Obama were more middle of the road and not so extreme left.....I might consider voting for him.  But he is way too extreme left for me.  As a conservative.....I don't like that at all. 


So, you would basically destroy the US, (sm)

I think splitting the country up like that would do much more harm than good.  We would wind up in the same situation as in the middle east....just a bunch of small factions (if you will) and total loss of control.  Not one of these individual factions would be able to fend off foreign threats, much less threats from other factions.  Individual factions would not be able to compete in a global economy.  We have gained the power that we currently have by being a united country, and that would be totally lost.  This would put us back to civil war days and in my opinion would not serve any real purpose other than to appease those who encourage separation of the country now.


Basically, you do have to be compensated......... sm
but if you want to keep your land because, for example, it is family land or your source of income, etc., you would lose it anyway.

Eminent domain
What you just said is basically racist.
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They e basically being saying the same thing for days, that is why I am...
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So basically the poorer I stay
the more I get?

Talk about your backwards logic!


Here is a whole list that basically fits

antichrist which some believe it could be the O.  I had a study if this in the Book of Daniel, not only in Revelations.  No matter who it is, better be ready.  Some state middle age, 40's and 50's. 


http://www.theprophecies.com/antichrist.html


Basically, it is the Democrats' fault...
if they would stop with the "gimme" programs and attach all of it to the public works that Obama is concerned about, make them accept a little responsibility with the free health care, foodstamps, and welfare checks...in hopes of getting them OFF those things...THEN Democrats would be doing something GOOD for people. Try lifting them OUT of poverty and teach them to work for what they get instead of REWARDING them for staying in poverty?? Hellooooo???
Basically it is the dems fault.
They are the ones who pushed the bailout of Wall Street. They are the ones who is giving more towards the bailout. They are the ones who made up this whole stimulus package that they are trying to push through by FRIDAY.. tomorrow. They promised O that this will pass with or without pub support. So, who's fault is it? The independent party?
Ogden basically feels that

censorship is unconstitutional.  That was his reason for not having restrictions on certain websites in libraries and schools.  However, as a parent, I do not feel comfortable knowing that people can go to porn sites in libraries where my child might see this or at school where children might pull this stuff up.  If people want to look at porn on the internet, they can feel free to buy their own computer and watch it from the privacy of their home, but not where children can see.  Also, I do not see why it was important to Ogden to oppose a law stating porn distributors had to verify with documentation the age of their models.  Doing away with this law would make child pornography easier to do.  Having a law making them prove the models age, to me, is a responsible thing to do and also will prevent underage children being used in lewd sexual acts. 


I just cannot support a man who would not allow restrictions for obscene sights in public libraries and schools and not see why it is important to have laws to verify that a person is of legal age to be involved in pornography. 


Seriously, pornography is intended for the privacy of our homes with adults.  Not in public places or involving children whether those children be watching or actually involved in the porn.


This is not a personal attack on Obama.  I honestly wouldn't like anyone if they had these views on pornography.  I personally feel that all appointees should be scrutinized whether it be dem or pub.  I think if we hold them to higher standards than we have, maybe we will start getting some honest people in Washington.


I believe that it refers to the work ethic basically...
not everyone is born rich, and we all have choices in life. We can "pull ourselves up with our bootstraps," work hard and try to get head, and it has worked for generation after generation of Americans. It worked for Barack Obama. He is someone who pulled himself up by his bootstraps, came from a very middle class family, worked through school, worked for scholarships, borrowed money, got an education and he is running for President of the United States.

Sarah Palin grew up as a child of two teachers in Alaska. She worked her way up, eventually worked as a sportscaster, then decided to work in public service because she wanted to serve. She started as a community advisor (same way Obama did), moved up to City council, to Mayor, then to governor, and now she is running for Vice President of the United States.

That is pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and succeeding, working hard for everything you got and not expecting someone to hand it to you.

That is what bootstrapping means to me.


Obama is basically a socialist. Look at his record
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Obama's tax plan basically takes away any
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So basically it's a freedom of speech thing?
That's a scary thought! It would be illegal to say you're against people who are pedophiles? Because according to this bill (if this is what it means) they have the same rights as gay people.
So basically it's a freedom of speech thing?
That's a scary thought! It would be illegal to say you're against people who are pedophiles? Because according to this bill (if this is what it means) they have the same rights as gay people.
You shouldn't take it there...

We shouldn't sit through any but nothing you said...sm
offers up a reason why we invaded Iraq. I expect the usual Sadaam was evil, brutal, murderous, and his sons ... (and all of it is true). So it is a good thing that out of this all we've taken them out, now what is holding us there. Let's face it, these folks are going to have to fight it out one day. The strongest will win, whether we leave today or ten years from now. Right now they have a PM who is a prior islamic extremist (see Lurker's post titled Disturbing) - we should not support that. Can you not see history repeating itself? Did our current leaders not shake hands with Saddaam? Did we not train up bin Laden? The way we are going about things in this war is not going to leave us any safer - if anything less so - the region is now even more incensed with hate than it was under Sadaam's thumb. I think our best chance at survival (though when our time is up, it's up) is protecting our homeland. Of course we need to keep our hands and ears in the Middle East, and definitely retaliate against any attacks on our soil or Embassies. It's the preemptive idea that I can't get down with.

We should never ever sit through a 9/11. If
Sadaam was responsible then by all means go after him and anyone willing to fight for him. What we are doing in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. In my mind, they are two issues until it can be proven that Saddam had a hand in the Twin Tower attack.

I was young during the Clinton Admin, so I didn't keep up with foreign affairs as much as I do now and I still do not indulge in them a great deal. But now as I look back I think he did a poor job in retaliating against anti-American attacks.


You shouldn't believe it because it just isn't so.

Believe me, Europeans would absolutely laugh at this. 


I know....shouldn't even go there with her...
but it was, as you said...mildy entertaining. lol.
Why shouldn't it go on?
The debate will only take a couple of hours. Nothing is going to get resolved that quickly anyway.
I think what we shouldn't do is just
sit here and watch it go down.  That simply isn't fair to the millions of families dependent on the industry and in the long run EVERYBODY suffers from it.  I think we need to make them not only make more fuel efficient cars but also more affordable ones.  Kill all the tax cuts for imports so we can compete in the market and start working on alternative fuels.  I don't think anyone has a complete answer for all this yet, I know I don't, but to just sit here and let it happen is asking for even more disaster.
It shouldn't have to, but . . .

people in general suck and are selfish and have no desire to contribute to their communities, and these are almost always the same people that whine and moan about how they don't want governemnt involved.


It shouldn't have to, but . . .

people in general suck and are selfish and have no desire to contribute to their communities, yet these are almost always the same people that whine and moan about how they don't want government involved.


You shouldn't a-s-s-u-m-e
that because I am not in love with Obama that it means I supported Bush. I for one did not care for Bush at all! I found myself preferring to rub my ears with sandpaper then to listen to his speeches...kinda like I do now, but with Obama!


Then you shouldn't
call yourself a Christian because a Christian finds homosexuality to be sinful and immoral. Me and you worship different Gods, obviously. Mine says homosexuality is an abomination. Love has nothing to do with sodomy.
No I shouldn't have. I was describing me, not you. SM

Yes, but the government shouldn't be
encouraging companies to outsource either. Our country has way messed up priorities when the only people making big bucks are entertainers and greedy CEOs. Meanwhile, we've got unemployed people and poverty. Hey, let's send our money, our technology and our private data to a country that HATES us.
So it shouldn't be allowed
because everyone might suddenly become gay and there would be no offspring? How about artificial insemination? This is a new one on me!
Shouldn't your pen name be "ROBOT"?

Sorry you couldn't do better......shouldn't have
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It shouldn't be about race
But for a lot of people it is. I won't vote for him, but race has nothing to do with it. Interestingly, my 79-year-old aunt thinks we should vote FOR him because of race. She says "Oh, we owe it to them."

Interesting too, I think Obama's commercials have been playing the race card recently - the white one. All of his recent commercials in my area have shown him with his mom and grandparents in cozy home-spun settings.


They should hate this shouldn't they?
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shouldn't have said illegal, but
does all that make you think this election is going to be legitimate? Why, oh why can't people just do things straight up and let the people really be heard. I am sick of the whole thing, and honestly do not believe it really matters who wins either way... they are all politicians
I"m hearing it and why shouldn't they

get money for a bailout? Wall Street and the banks did, but WS and the banks are HOLDING ONTO the money for BONUSES, not to bail themselves out. GM and Chryler need it to KEEP JOBS.


The bailout was wrong in the first place because everyone would want money, but that's the only thing they could come up with at the time. What's done is done but I don't think we ought to keep throwing money out there. NP and Barney Fife are too free with money that's not theirs and they should be thrown out of office. 


Shouldn't you be concerned about where
all those millions given to Louisiana to rebuild went to? They went to state park projects in the northern part of the state and then LA governor lost track of where the other millions went to.........

If you're so worried about the residents of NO and want to blame the government for all their woes, maybe you should ask why Mayor Negan had the casinos going full blast the day before the hurricane was due to hit? Why wasn't he getting all his federall funded citizens out of NO? Louisiana has always been a state of corruption much like Illinois and until their citizens demand better, they won't get it! On second thought, with so many criminals ran out of New Orleans, maybe it would be a better place to live!!!! They're probably all back by now though, robbing, stealing, and murdering those those who actually do work for a living....
Shouldn't you have considered all that BEFORE you
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We shouldn't nuke them.

Sheesh...that would be stupid.  Once we nuke them, everyone will pull out the nukes and you can kiss our planet good bye.  You won't have to worry about co2 emission and going green then.


What should happen is that the UN grow some balls and actually stand up to bullies like this instead of cowering back like they have always done. 


What does this tell you about quacks that run other countries?  Threatening to nuke us unless we apologize?  And you are worried about us waterboarding.  Give me a break!!!  These are also the psycho freaks Obama wants to have tea and crumpets with to discuss things.  What a joke!  Good luck with that one Barry.


If the UN apologizes, that gives N. Korea some control and that is what they are wanting.  N. Korea is all about making threats to make them look big and bad anyway.  We should definitely keep a close eye on them, but we shouldn't bust down the door yet.  I personally feel other countries need to step up and carry the big stick for a while.  Not only can we not afford another war, but we don't have enough military numbers to do it either.  Why can't other countries grow some balls and actually stand up to bullies like this?  They always make us do it and then they complain about us.  Like the French.....wouldn't they be speaking German if we didn't put our nose in their business and help them? 


This man shouldn't be preaching to anyone.

Rev. Wright Says 'Them Jews' Won't Let Obama Talk to Him


The Rev. Jeremiah Wright says he doesn't have any regrets over his severed relationship with President Obama. 



FOXNews.com


Wednesday, June 10, 2009






In a racially charged interview, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright said that President Obama hasn't spoken to him since they parted ways last year, because "them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me." 

He suggested White House advisers were keeping the two separate. 


"Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office," Wright said, according to Virginia's Daily Press. "They will not let him ... talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is." 


Obama left Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago last year following the very public controversy over his inflammatory sermons. 


Wright sporadically has granted media interviews and made public appearances since. In the Daily Press article, he also claimed that the president did not send a delegation to the recent world racism conference in Geneva for fear of offending Jews. 


"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said. 


Wright said he voted for Obama in November and has no regrets over their severed relationship.


"Regret for what ... that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I've been preaching for 20 years?" he said. 


It shouldn't be. It's a private decision, not one to
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Not just my job, DH is the major earner. We shouldn't be.
penalized for working hard.
You shouldn't call yourself a dim-witted
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Shouldn't that had been..."stand with the American
??