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This is an excellent article - thanks for posting

Posted By: hmmm on 2009-06-23
In Reply to: For Ron Paul fans. sm - LVMT

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Excellent Article! Thanks for posting.
It boils down to the feds weren't forcing bad loans on the banks, the lenders were forcing the bad loans out of greed.
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I had forgotten about all the democrats who supported the war.
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It was so excellent I hope people keep posting
We need people like him in the US. Here they are all just a bunch of self-gratifying, money hungry mob-backed politicians who care nothing about the country or the people. Meanwhile they have everyone fooled into believing they care so much about us. That's why they are dragging the country down.
This is an excellent article.

This guy has his finger on the pulse of the majority of Americans.


Thanks for posting it.


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Excellent article!!! Thanks, sam!
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Excellent article

This is from below. 


http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/barack-the-black-hitler/


 


That was an excellent article
I actually read that yesterday (thanks to DH). There are too many scientists all over the world who have been researching and studying and trying to educate the people that we are not in global warming, we are on our way to an ice age. The guy who owns the weather channel is suing AL Gore, and even Ariana Huffington (a liberal) is demanding an apology for the climate hysteria Gore has caused.

Al Gore is making money hands down over this false "global warming" crap he's pulled. It still astounds me that people will listen to him (Al Gore, who has never had any formal training in what he spews - and is no scientist) and they will disregard what the scientists and people who are trained and really know what's happening. Nobel prize for Al Gore - goess to show you what money can buy.
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The dots are so clear to connect. This is exactly what most of us fear, but it's out of our hands now. We can only hope history will not repeat itself in this case. I think a lot will depend on who he picks for his cabinet members, however, so far it doesn't look that great.

Speaking of Nazi germany, when we were in the service my grandparents came over to visit and we took them to the Dachau concentration camp. My grandather was one of the first soldiers to help the prisoners leave the camp. He said they gave them food, but his commander made them all get drunk before they went to Dachau he said because the conditions were so horrible he knew a lot would not be able to stomach it once they arrived if they were sober. My grandfather said his commander was correct. He said the conditions were absolutely horrifying. When he walked up to the Dachau camp he had tears in his eyes and said he could see the prisoners faces behind the bars as if it was yesterday.

I have read about the concentration camps/re-education camps here in this country and I truly hope we do not fall under the same demise but one never knows.
Excellent article by Jonathan Alter

(Also a good article by Howard Fineman in the same issue, giving some background on Rove).



  MSNBC.com

Why The Leak Probe Matters
For all the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, this story is about how easy it was to get into Iraq, and how hard it will be to get out.



Newsweek



July 25 issue - Like a lot of President Bush's critics, I supported the Iraq war at first. Because of the evidence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction laid out by Colin Powell, I agreed that we needed to disarm Saddam Hussein. I even think it's possible that 25 years from now, historians will conclude that the Iraq war helped accelerate the modernizing of the Middle East, even if it doesn't fully democratize it.


But if that happens, Bush might not get as much credit as he hopes, and not just because most historians, as Richard Nixon liked to say, are liberals. Bush may look bad because his leadership on Iraq has been a fiasco. He didn't plan for it: the early decisions that allowed the insurgency to get going were breathtakingly incompetent. He didn't pay for it: Bush is the first president in history to cut taxes during a war, this one now costing nearly $1 billion a week. And most important of all, he didn't tell the American people the truth about it: taking a nation to war is the most solemn duty of a president, and he'd better make certain there's no alternative and no doubt about the evidence.


Why do I mention this now? Because for all of the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, for all the questions raised about the future of investigative journalism and the fate of the most influential aide to an American president since Louis Howe served Franklin D. Roosevelt 70 years ago, this story is fundamentally about how easy it was to get into Iraq and how hard it will be to get out.


We got in because we "cooked" the intelligence, then hyped it. That's why the "Downing Street Memo" is not a smoking gun but a big "duh." For two years we've known that senior White House officials were determined to, in the words of the British intelligence memo, "fix" the intelligence to suit their policy decisions. When someone crossed them, they would "fix" him, too, as career ambassador Joseph Wilson found when he came back from Africa with a report that threw cold water on the story that Saddam Hussein sought yellowcake uranium from Niger.



Was Plame "fair game," as Karl Rove told Chris Matthews? George H.W. Bush didn't think so. Even after Wilson embarrassed the president publicly, Bush Sr. wrote Wilson—whom he had appointed to various ambassadorial posts—to congratulate him for his service and sympathize with him over the outing of his wife. The old man was head of the CIA in the 1970s and knows the consequences of blowing the identities of covert operatives.


But does his son? A real leader wouldn't hide behind Clintonian legalisms like "I don't want to prejudge." Even if the disclosure was unintentional and no law was broken, Rove's confirmed conduct—talking casually to two reporters without security clearances about a CIA operative—was dangerous and wrong. As GOP congressman turned talk-show host Joe Scarborough puts it, if someone in his old congressional office did what Rove unquestionably did, that someone would have been promptly fired, just as the president promised in this case. Scarborough, no longer obligated to toe the pathetic Republican Party line, says it's totally irrelevant if Joe Wilson is a preening partisan who misled investigators about the role his wife played in recommending his Niger trip. The frantic efforts of the GOP attack machine to change the subject to Wilson shows how scared Republicans are that the master of their universe will be held accountable for Rove's destructive carelessness.


To get an idea of how destructive, I talked to Melissa Mahle, a former CIA covert operative turned author whose career parallels Plame's. She explained what happens when someone's cover is blown. It isn't pretty, especially when, like Plame, you have been under "nonofficial cover" (working for a phony front company or nonprofit), which is more sensitive than "official cover" (pretending to work for another government agency). The GOP's spinners are making it seem that because Plame had a desk job in Langley at the time she was outed, she wasn't truly undercover. As Mahle says, that reflects a total ignorance about the way the CIA works. Being outed doesn't just waste millions of taxpayer dollars; it compromises hundreds of other people in the field you may have worked with in the past.


If Bush isn't a hypocrite on national security, he needs, at a minimum, to yank Rove's security clearance. "Whether you do it [discuss the identity of CIA operatives] intentionally or unintentionally, you have not met the requirements of that security clearance," Mahle told me.


The bigger question is what this scandal does to the CIA's ability to develop essential "humint" (human intelligence). Here's where the Iraq war comes in again. The sooner we beef up our intelligence, the sooner we crack the insurgency and get to bring our troops home. What does it say to the people doing the painstaking work of building those spy networks when the identity of one of their own becomes just another weapon in the partisan wars of Washington? For a smart guy, Karl Rove was awfully stupid.


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Yeah, baby. Excellent article.
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GOPs are gaining - excellent article - see link

Excellent article by D. Morris (who used to be an adviser to Clinton).  He hits it right on the head with his assessments.  1.) Obama's poll numbers are not changing but McCain is gaining.  2.)  End of July voters trusted the dems to better handle the economy by 11%, now they only trust them by 4%.  3.) Before the convention voters trusted dems to achieve energy independence by 8 points, now it's only a 2 point lead.  4.) When asked who made the smarter VP choice voters said McCain did 50 - 40%.


Key to her popularity is that she understands the average persons problems.  Of the question which of the 4 candidates understands the problems of day to day life in America Palin finished first with 33%, Obama second with 32%, McCain with 17, and Biden with 10.


Worst news for Obama is when voters asked who they would consult for advise with the "toughest decision of your life" voters chose McCain over Obama 50-34.


I've been saying all along the Republicans are sweeping the nation.  People are seeing through Barack's lies and false hopes.  Link to the article is below so you can read for yourselves.


http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/09/15/gops-gaining/


 


It is a good article. Thanks for posting !
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Great article. Thanks for posting it....sm
I had a feeling she'd do well talking with them.

Good article, thanks for posting....sm
Heard Cheney on Rush the other day. Good man, probably the most intelligent VP we've ever had.

What a great article...thanks for posting it, ms!
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I just couldn't resist posting this article.

When I read it, my first thought was "how fitting this would be for those to read who are firm in pro-life, pro-war and its contradiction".


 


Let’s Count the Ways We’ve Sacrificed for the Iraq War


by Mary Conroy


As children, we learned about Santa Claus — a pleasant, harmless myth. As adults, we’re being taught another myth — that ordinary people haven’t sacrificed anything during the Iraq war.


But the sacrifice myth isn’t an innocent belief we shed before adolescence. And the more people accept it, the more dangerous it is.


So let’s count our sacrifices. One of our biggest came at the start of the war, when we gave up freedom of the press. Media outlets agreed they’d only send journalists who’d be embedded with the troops, so everything we’ve read or seen has been censored.


Worse yet, in 2006, new media rules from the Department of Defense stated, “Names, video, identifiable written/oral descriptions or identifiable photographs of wounded service members will not be released without service members’ prior written consent.” Just when should an embedded journalist hand out consent forms?


Photos of dead or wounded Americans in Vietnam swelled the number of anti-war protesters. Back then, we saw horrific images of GIs writhing in pain. We also saw dead GIs, not in coffins, but bloody and dismembered in the field.


Even before the new media rule began, embedded photographers rarely pictured dead or wounded GIs, according to Pat Arnow of Extra, a publication of Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting. Instead, most of our media’s coverage of Iraq has pictured the injured GIs who can sit up in bed without grimacing to receive a Purple Heart. The few pictures of dead GIs haven’t shown blood or gore; they’ve shown funerals.


Photographers get close to the soldiers they’re embedded with and self-censor pictures of them. If they send their editors explicit photos, the editors declare the images “too graphic to publish,” like the Washington Post did on Jan. 7, 2007.


Embedded journalists also censor pictures of dead Iraqis. “Those pictures overwhelmingly show only one kind of victim — people and things shattered by their fellow countrymen, not by U.S. troops,” Arnow says.


When we do see a photo of an Iraqi killed by U.S. troops, the media distances us by labeling the dead Iraqi “an al-Qaida-linked militant,” or “a militiaman loyal to Osama bin Laden.”


Remember that photo of a terrorized naked Vietnamese girl running from a napalm attack? Today she would be called “a Vietcong guerilla” or “a Ho Chi Minh militant.”


But freedom of the press isn’t the only sacrifice we’ve made. Last month, Congress released “The Hidden Costs of the Iraq War,” a report showing the war’s cost so far at $1.3 trillion. That figure includes direct costs plus interest on the money borrowed to wage the war.


The money we spend on Iraq in one day could fund 9,300 teachers for a year, or 14,200 police officers, or 163,700 college Pell Grants, or 58,000 children’s tuition for Head Start, or 513,000 children’s health insurance. We’ve sacrificed all of those and more.


Worst, we’ve sacrificed human life. In September, the Opinion Research Business firm’s study of Iraqi households found that 1 million Iraqis have died due to violence since the U.S. invasion. We know of 4,000 American military who’ve died, but rarely does anyone ask about American civilian death counts.


And we’ll never know what the world lost when each of those people died. Each life was full of possibility. Who knows what contributions each person could have made to the workplace and the world, to their friends and to their families?


Mary Conroy is a Madison-based freelance writer.


I agree. Great article. Thanks, LVMT for posting it.
To m:  LOL.  No problem.  It's very easy to do on this board. 
That's a good, fair article. Very well stated. Thanks for posting the link!....nm

post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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So does someone's comment at the end of the article, discredit the whole article??
Unbelievable. 
Excellent! Thank you.

Excellent!

'Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed.'   Bruce Springsteen.


 


Excellent.
A lot of people do say if she was a man the media would never go after her and she wouldn't be attacked like she has been. I liked the post. Thanks.
Excellent.
If O wins and a few months goes by, I will be proud to say I am the one who voted for McCain.  This is not a normal election, this is like a radical movement going on. 
EXCELLENT.
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Just the big bad.....also excellent.
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Excellent
I saw this back during the election. It brought tears to my eyes back then and still does. This soldier is so very right with everything he has to say. I think it's just a very sad time for our country right now. Gone are the days of many people feeling patriotic and doing what is necessary to keep our country free. I mourn for the country we once had and am very guarded about what is to come for us.

I served in the US Army to protect our country. I was a very proud American and served to protect our country from enemies.

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Back then we all thought it would only be foreign enemies. Who knew back then that in the future (now) it is domestic enemies.
Way to go! Excellent!!!!!!
I was actually going to post and say I do believe he actually goes to the bathroom the same way all of us do (well the men at least). So, hey, he must really be like one of us. I am truly amazed at the way some people think. I find American Idol tryouts to be more entertaining.

The last I knew Barack Obama was a human being. A man just like every other man on the planet. Sleeps, drinks, eats, and poops the same way. The people treating him like a God is getting way out of hand.

The simple matter they all fail to forget is just cos he eats a dog and fries does not make him like us. This is a man who was pushed into power faster than any of us could turn around. This man sends his kids to camp that costs $10,000 a week. This is a man who lives in mansion and has no idea what it is we (the plebes of society) are going through. He will never have to worry about putting food on his table, paying his electric bill. He is in a life of luxury and every once in awhile he will do a photo shoot so that people will say "wow, look at that, he ate a dog and fry - gosh he must be in tune with us". Here's some news...Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John McCain, George Bush, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, John Edwards....they all do these photo ops too (remember Hillary guzzling down the beer with the workers). They all do it.

People need to stick with issues. Not this phony photo op thing. All presidents to it. As for him holding a baby. He was on TV and I saw someone hand him a baby and he didn't look all that happy or comfortable about it.

Barack Obama will never be "like us". Just like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Mit Romney, etc. These people are and never will be "like us".
LOL - That was excellent! Thanks
I love Jon Stewart. I like that Obama has a great sense of humor. Its the obots that give him a bad name.

I thought it was funny that on the podium under Baracks name his title is "Almost President" ha ha

Thanks for sharing! I love a good laugh no matter who it is about.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!
Okay - I'll tell you right now I haven't watched the whole thing, actually I haven't watched any of it :-)BUT..... with that said my DH has watched it many times. He keeps telling me to watch it and it's one saved in my favorites for "one of those moments when I'll have time to do something other than work". He's told me all about it and we've had this discussion so many many times.

I'll tell you what I feel..... What happened to JFK is just a grain of sand compared to what has been done with this whole thing. I loved the part where GW tells the kids he was watching TV when he saw the first plane hit (nobody saw it cos it wasn't on tape). I also loved the reporter (not sure if that is on this loose change video) but loved the reporter who was talking about Building 9 (I think it was called bldg 9) that had just collapsed and sitting there behind her was bldg 9 still standing. A short while later it collapsed.

Not many people I can talk to about this because they'll claim me a "whacko" and ridicule me and tell me I've got all these conspiracy theories and treat me like I'm that character that Mel Gibson played in the movie "Conspiracy Theory". :-) But this is just so much to think about. It's horrible and I am shocked that in my lifetime I have lived to see something like this. It does make you think - that's for sure.
Excellent - you said it better than I could
I'm not very good at expressing myself, but you said exactly what I feel. If I want to give charity I will give it of my own free will.

We do not need redistribution of wealth and socialism. If you think redistribution of wealth and socialism is the way to go, then move to Cuba or Russia because you are not a patriot of the United States of America and everything our founding fathers fought for.
Excellent - thanks
Especially your last paragraph.
Thank you for this excellent example of
Not one mention of the 1948 or 1967 wars that were launched against Israel. Not a word about Arafat, Hamas, rockets, suicide bombers, etc. Not a word about the countless ceasefires broken by the Palestinians.

This is nothing but a complete distortion of the truth about this region.

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Excellent post. Thank you. NM

Excellent post!
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Chris was excellent

pinned him to the wall like a bug (no offense to bugs out there).  Intersting also that he mentioned McCain's former policy chief (or something) Tori Clark wrote a book with the name.  I love to see the hyocrites squirm. it sends a thrill up my leg.


 


Excellent post!!
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I didn't know this - excellent!
Tx for the link.
Excellent post!!!
My sentiments exactly!
excellent point

You have taken a startle complex to a burning house.  Talk about constantly overreacting, overblowing, and goin all histrionic over every little thing . . . burp.