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To talk about issues....same as the liberals who go to the conservative board...

Posted By: Observer on 2007-11-05
In Reply to: so just why is it that you are on this forum? - *scratching head in puzzlement*....n/m

Also puzzled...what does it matter to you anyway?


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Nope....she just stated she was here to post issues for her fellow liberals...
(or he, whichever the case may be), and I just mentioned I had not seen any issues posted. Are YOU the posting police?
Do....let us talk about some of these issues.

9/11/2001:  We all talk about 9/11.  How Pres. Bush should have known.  We did lose a lot of lives that day.  It was truly a sad day.  However, what about the World Trade Center bombing back in ྙ when Clinton was the pres.  That was by Islamic extremists.  Or about the US Embassy bombings in ྞ....also while Bill was in office suspect to have been coordinated by Osama Bin Laden.  Or the USS Cole incident in 2000 and once again Bill was in the White House and once again Osama was the suspect in the planning.  All these terrorists acts but the one people shout out about the most in 9/11 and how Bush is to blame.  Why?  Because more lives were lost in this one than with the other ones.  Weren't they all still terrorist attacks?  If Clinton had stood up and done something during his term....maybe 9/11 would not have happened at all but yet the blame all falls upon Bush.


Katrina:  Once again all Bush's faults and therefore all republicans faults.  Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff was the "federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina, [and] could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials."  "If you go back to August 27th," President Bush had already "declared a state of emergency in the state of Louisiana under Title V of the Stafford Act, ... Ergo, Katrina became an Incident of National Significance on August 27th -- two days before the storm. But Chertoff apparently didn't realize this and waited till a day after [on August 30th] to make the determination on his own, one that according to the flow chart had already been made."  Honestly though, if you live in a place that is well below sea level and you hear a really bit storm is coming your way.....common sense.....you get the heck out of dodge.


Iraq war:  The reason for the war was this:  The military objectives of the invasion were; end the Hussein regime; eliminate weapons of mass destruction; eliminate Islamic terrorists; obtain intelligence on terrorist networks; distribute humanitarian aid; secure Iraq’s oil infrastructure; and assist in creating a representative government as a model for other Middle East nations


As for Wall Street:  Firms such as Goldman Sachs and Lehman not only made billions of dollars packaging and selling these toxic loans, they also wagered with their own capital that the values of these investments would decline, further raising their profits. If any other industries engaged in such knowingly unscrupulous activities, there would be an immediate federal investigation.


At the same time, federal regulatory agencies such as the SEC stood idly by as Wall Street took advantage of the investment public during both the Internet and the housing bubbles. The SEC took almost no action against Wall Street after the dot-com implosion. And in the midst of the housing bubble, in 2006, only the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency pushed for any level of regulation to address subprime lending.


One has to wonder why Treasury secretaries under Presidents Clinton and Bush -- Robert Rubin and Hank Paulson, respectively -- took no action to curb these abuses. It certainly was not because they did not understand Wall Street's practices -- both are former chief executives of Goldman Sachs. And why has Congress been so silent? The Wall Street investment banking firms, their executives, their families and their political action committees contribute more to U.S. Senate and House campaigns than any other industry in America. By sprinkling some of its massive gains into the pockets of our elected officials, Wall Street bought itself protection from any tough government enforcement.


This is no doubt the same reason why so many members of Congress were consistently blocking attempts to reform and downsize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are essentially giant, undercapitalized hedge funds. These two entities have been huge money machines for Democrats in both the House and the Senate, many of whom recently had the gall to ask why these companies hadn't been reformed in the past. Nor should several Republican congressmen and Senators who likewise contributed to watering down legislation aimed at reforming these institutions be let off the hook.


They do try to talk about the issues and get bashed for

their opinions.


I, for one, thought it was funny. Before the election, I also stated that if O was elected, I would be quitting my job 'cause I was tired of working and wanted some of the free money. That was also a joke. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't work. Workaholic, ya know.


You have about as much insight into the conservative party as you have into your severe anger issues
and not a clue how to do anything about either one.  Sad.
Even our conservative talk radio sm

station focused on how "hot" Sarah Palin was, not her brains.  How they'd like to see her naked, in a bikini, etc, etc.  As for being governor, the state of Alaska ranks 47th in population, not exactly New York or Massachusetts or you name it.  As for bashing her because she is "pretty", I'll take brains over beauty any day.  Pretty shallow to back someone because they're "pretty" or "hot."  The day Sarah Palin sets foot in the white house, is the day I move to Canada or maybe I'll move to Alaska!


And lastly, as for me typing my little black keys, look who is calling the kettle black.  When was the last time you ran for governor? 


the conservative board is a liberal board now
you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
Wow! Maybe someone should contact MSNBC and tell them they gave a talk show to a conservative,
which is what Tucker Carlson is.
And this board is for liberals so as we say it here...sm
You ain't gone yet???
Hardly. Issues all over the place, even on board.
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Ask the liberals who are posting there to come over to this board.
I know it is tempting to want to post on the opposite board, I try to fight it though because I know anything I say over there will only start a fight.
What about what YOU said on the conservative board?

I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm


The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.


 


Take it to the conservative board.

You apparently have issues that are not going to be solved by endless bashing on a liberal board.


Although I may not like the rules on this board I am mature and courteous enough to at least try to follow them. 


These posts were on the conservative board

where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board.  However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president.  I actually be afraid to post things like that.  You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.


Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD.  It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman.   Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks.  You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!?  Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....


I believe your key point is that it was on the CONSERVATIVE board. sm
I did not post it here and I did not post it THERE in response to a liberal poster.   It is no worse than what is being said HERE about THERE.  And this could go on ad infinitum and serve no purpose whatsoever. 
You are welcome on the conservative board any time! SM
 Come on over!
He has already met with her. See article on Conservative board.
How many times is he supposed to meet with her?
The conservative board is quiet because SM
you and your bully friends made numerous and repeated drive-by postings.  Do you know what a drive-by is.  It's where you go merely to harrass and cause dissention and then scoot on back over here and brag about it. If you behaved like this in your own personal life, you be shunned and ridiculed.  Instead, you and your friends here fall into that dysfunctional class of people who can only be tough on-line. 
Come no over to the conservative board. We'd love to have you! nm

conservative board..YIPES..no thanks
I do not frequent the conservative board, as it would make my blood boil and I have enough to deal with you conservatives on the liberal board, LOL, However, as many Marines that you show me enjoy war and blood shed and illegal occupation of Iraq and war without end, I will show you Marines and Army and Navy and National Guard, et al., who are horrified by what we are doing and have been forever changed because of Bush's illegal, immoral, criminal war.
Perhaps I would *obey* that, but you do it on the conservative board.
So we are expected to stay off this board and you can bash on the conservative board.  Just trying to get the rules straight here.
get back to the conservative board
LOLOLOLOLOLO, dont like it?  Dont read the posts..simple as that, deary.  As far as my posts are the worst, LMFAO..You, child, have not visited other political boards as mine are calm compared to others but, **BIG SIGH**, I realize you are one of the three who always come on this board from the conservative one..cant stay on your own board, gotta come here and start trouble..So, to you who posts here all the time, get back to the dinosaur, backward thinking conservative board and leave the liberal board alone..Bye, bye, sweetheart..
Go over to the conservative board, and look for *you must be a liberal if* sm
and I'm sure there are some other pieces over there that you might find comical. Then let us know if you still think this is the most stereotypical thing you have EVER read.

It's meant to humor liberals. That's why it's on a liberal board. :):):)
Why a liberal and a conservative board?
I don't get this.  Why is there a board for liberals and a board for conservatives?  It's not like no one comes to the liberal board who isn't, and what fun would that be, anyway?  And is everyone comfortable with the labels?  I consider myself a liberal on many issues, but there are some issues on which I would agree with conservatives.  For instance, I want less government (which Bush supposedly wants, ha!).  I think people ought to be able to bears arms and it's a real good thing for Iraq that Saddam Hussein didn't keep them from having them, so now they can try to repel the foreign invaders.  Just a couple of issues for which no label really works....
Go back to the conservative board
Get off the liberal board, we dont want you here.
Oh, she revealed it on the Conservative Board

with this and other posts:


*The liberals are a bunch of chickens running about with their heads cut off, THE SKY IS FALLING!* 


I realize your board is DEAD, but please go away. 


I was speaking of the Conservative board.
And I think the Iranian president is more than nuts, much the way the Iranian gentleman writing the article I speak of suggests.  It might help to identify that you are posting a spoof instead of a serious article in the future.
oh, it's ok for you to slam the conservative board
but it's not ok for me to say you're a whiner? Why don't you just live with it? The conservative board is, you know, for conservatives. Let it be, let it be.
Weren't you just thanking God on the conservative board because

Which God was that?  THe one that plays favorites?


Well, since I'm sure you're very fair, maybe you should visit the Conservative board and (at the

the entire thread beginning with:


I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm







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Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
In Reply to:
Obviously they are not happy - American Girl


The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.


 


And Ending with:


 


Frankly, AG, they kind of give me the creeps. sm







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Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
In Reply to:
Man, Am I good or what? - American Girl


Some of the very things they rail about re Homeland Security and invasion of personal privacy seem to be personal character attributes. I decided not to go and read on the libs board anymore. There is no logital debate, except among my liberal friends in "real" life who seem to have grown up a long time ago. At any rate, I have great respect for you, as you know. And I consider you a friend. I will certainly toast to you, as well. Ginger Ale for me. Have a great holiday weekend.


Well go bloviate on the conservative board with this crap.
Spare us.
For your own mental health, go to the conservative board. sm
You will be better understood and accepted there.

Find the love.
Oh, it's not like you haven't stalked on the conservative board. sm
In fact, I believe that is being investigated right now by Yahoo, if I am not mistaken.  You guys are expert at stalking.   How does it feel?
You would find more comfort on the conservative board.sm
Feel free to mozy on over their for some like minded folks.
post your view on the conservative board
I think your views should also be posted on the conservative board.  Whats good for the goose is good for the gander..Lets call an all out truce between the conservative posters and liberal posters, then I will agree..however, anyone reading these posts will realize the conservatives time and time again have been the attack dog and the liberals have tried to defend their own. 
If you are a conservative, go to that board and post. Do not stir the pot here.
The same is true of liberals. Don't stir up the pot over on the conservatives board it causes entirely too much ugliness and hate.  If you don't like it, I would suggest you find a politics forum that is a free for all mudslinging, unmoderated venue..
Stay off the conservative board and you won't get so upset. nm

Conservatives, please post on conservative board. Thank you. nm
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Conservatives, please post on the Conservative board. Thank you. nm
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Conservatives, please post on conservative board. nm
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Conservatives, please post on the conservative board. nm
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routinely portrayed on the conservative board?

Posters may debate here or on the Conservative board and do so in
a respectful manner.  There will be no additional forum as these are sufficient.  If you cannot play nice and post with respect, do not post in this forum.  This goes for ANYONE posting, Liberal, Conservative, polka dotted.
Do you talk about anything on this board besides
Ann Coulter and conspiracy theories.  I mean wake up people!  North Korea is firing off missles, there's some important legislation coming up, the supreme court just made an astounding judgment on Gitmo, and  you guys are posting Pink songs.  Get with the program.  Have some debate here!  No wonder I can scan down the page and see the same people over and over.  You'll never get new blood like this. 
Also, did anyone look at the Hardball segment listed on the Conservative board?
It was called "The Truth about Iraqi Freedom," I believe.  I THINK it was considered meaningful dialogue supporting the neocons.  However, I felt it was damning.  The only "Truth" the rather strange and creepy neocon lady reporter seemed to come up with was that the soldiers handed out candy and softballs.  The other guest was a former soldier in Iraq who, if only given time, was making some excellent statements regarding the real truth of the war.  The whole segment was rushed and, well, kind of weird. As I said, check out the lady reporter - she seemed most disagreeable and offensive.  Or maybe it was just my take on it!!!!
There is a post on the conservative board. I would be happy to find more if you like. NM

I will, provided courtesy is held on the conservative board as well.
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Just peeked in on the Conservative board, looking for some *nice debates*

All I saw were you guys *applause applause*-ing each other and the usual ragging on all liberals.  Then I saw ONE courageous soul who attempted to debate with you, followed by the usual and customary *stay off the board* warnings to the poster.


So it seems you guys consider nice debate as ganging up and attacking posters who disagree with you.


Maybe that's the problem here.  We view nice debate in two different ways.


We view it as being nice to other posters and not personally attacking those who disagree with us.  We don't claim to know what they are thinking and feeling in their minds and hearts, and we find those who insist on being nasty to others very distasteful and crude.  We don't LIKE to act the way that you neocons act.  We'd rather be friendly and civilized. That's why you're not welcome here.  It's not because of what you believe.  It's because you are unable to act like decent human beings, and you don't know how to treat other people.


Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
And since you post regularly on the Conservative board, you are not a pro-choicer. nm
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The posts on the conservative board were supported by videos. sm
These videos all showed US Soldiers discussing their views on the war.  Much different than something you read in print. I would also like to say that the Military Times is NOT an armed forces newspaper.  It is privately owned and does not in any way speak for the military.  The generals are saying they will resign if we go into Iran. 
You have no right to talk to the posters on this board the way you have been
No, you’re the one who has no right to talk to us the way you have been. Who do you think you are. You’re the one who started in with “get off this forum and take a cold shower” I just repeated your words back to you. I see you sure didn’t like it when it was said to you, so why do you think it’s okay for you say it to others (no that is not a question – it’s a statement).

So in your own words it comes right back to you - “You have no right to talk to me like that. Who do you think YOU are. You are not the owner of this forum, not a moderator, and not management – you are just you.”

If you don’t want to be told to get off this forum, then you should not be telling others they need to get off the forum.

You claim you weren’t rude??? Here’s some of your quotes –

- get off this forum and take a cold shower
- You are a joke, 'Backward typist,'
- Confused or imbibed?
- There are meds against paranoia, don’t you know?
- You suffer from delusions
- The mind and world of caged-in Republicans and those whose life adheres to every little detail mentioned in the Bible, those are the ones who live in a small world
- paranoid and delusional, is this written in the Bible
- are you o.k.? Or did your UTI reach your brain (oh my wasn’t that one nice)

Oh, and here is an especially good one you said –

“I hate to repeat myself for those who have a slow mind.”

You have been on this board calling people losers, slow minded, pathetic, hateful, etc, etc

We know your democrat – we get it and that’s fine. (please don't try to convince us you are independent - we read your posts. Nothing to be ashamed of being a democrat. Everyone is entitled to their believes/opinions, but that’s doesn’t give you a free pass to bash others and call others names.

My suggestion again is that if you can’t handle a conversation without bashing someone because they don’t believe the same as you, or it just gives you joy to cut others down, there are other forums on the internet that you might be happier at. The moderator has said many times “no flaming”. It’s even at the top of the board and you might want to read it. Your getting very close.