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Also, did anyone look at the Hardball segment listed on the Conservative board?

Posted By: Observer on 2005-08-14
In Reply to: Good article..nm - Observer

It was called "The Truth about Iraqi Freedom," I believe.  I THINK it was considered meaningful dialogue supporting the neocons.  However, I felt it was damning.  The only "Truth" the rather strange and creepy neocon lady reporter seemed to come up with was that the soldiers handed out candy and softballs.  The other guest was a former soldier in Iraq who, if only given time, was making some excellent statements regarding the real truth of the war.  The whole segment was rushed and, well, kind of weird. As I said, check out the lady reporter - she seemed most disagreeable and offensive.  Or maybe it was just my take on it!!!!


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    the conservative board is a liberal board now
    you all aren't happy until you infect everyone out there with your hatred.   It's not something I'd very proud of.
    What about what YOU said on the conservative board?

    I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm


    The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.


     


    Take it to the conservative board.

    You apparently have issues that are not going to be solved by endless bashing on a liberal board.


    Although I may not like the rules on this board I am mature and courteous enough to at least try to follow them. 


    These posts were on the conservative board

    where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board.  However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president.  I actually be afraid to post things like that.  You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.


    Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD.  It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman.   Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks.  You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!?  Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....


    I believe your key point is that it was on the CONSERVATIVE board. sm
    I did not post it here and I did not post it THERE in response to a liberal poster.   It is no worse than what is being said HERE about THERE.  And this could go on ad infinitum and serve no purpose whatsoever. 
    You are welcome on the conservative board any time! SM
     Come on over!
    He has already met with her. See article on Conservative board.
    How many times is he supposed to meet with her?
    The conservative board is quiet because SM
    you and your bully friends made numerous and repeated drive-by postings.  Do you know what a drive-by is.  It's where you go merely to harrass and cause dissention and then scoot on back over here and brag about it. If you behaved like this in your own personal life, you be shunned and ridiculed.  Instead, you and your friends here fall into that dysfunctional class of people who can only be tough on-line. 
    Come no over to the conservative board. We'd love to have you! nm

    conservative board..YIPES..no thanks
    I do not frequent the conservative board, as it would make my blood boil and I have enough to deal with you conservatives on the liberal board, LOL, However, as many Marines that you show me enjoy war and blood shed and illegal occupation of Iraq and war without end, I will show you Marines and Army and Navy and National Guard, et al., who are horrified by what we are doing and have been forever changed because of Bush's illegal, immoral, criminal war.
    Perhaps I would *obey* that, but you do it on the conservative board.
    So we are expected to stay off this board and you can bash on the conservative board.  Just trying to get the rules straight here.
    get back to the conservative board
    LOLOLOLOLOLO, dont like it?  Dont read the posts..simple as that, deary.  As far as my posts are the worst, LMFAO..You, child, have not visited other political boards as mine are calm compared to others but, **BIG SIGH**, I realize you are one of the three who always come on this board from the conservative one..cant stay on your own board, gotta come here and start trouble..So, to you who posts here all the time, get back to the dinosaur, backward thinking conservative board and leave the liberal board alone..Bye, bye, sweetheart..
    Go over to the conservative board, and look for *you must be a liberal if* sm
    and I'm sure there are some other pieces over there that you might find comical. Then let us know if you still think this is the most stereotypical thing you have EVER read.

    It's meant to humor liberals. That's why it's on a liberal board. :):):)
    Why a liberal and a conservative board?
    I don't get this.  Why is there a board for liberals and a board for conservatives?  It's not like no one comes to the liberal board who isn't, and what fun would that be, anyway?  And is everyone comfortable with the labels?  I consider myself a liberal on many issues, but there are some issues on which I would agree with conservatives.  For instance, I want less government (which Bush supposedly wants, ha!).  I think people ought to be able to bears arms and it's a real good thing for Iraq that Saddam Hussein didn't keep them from having them, so now they can try to repel the foreign invaders.  Just a couple of issues for which no label really works....
    Go back to the conservative board
    Get off the liberal board, we dont want you here.
    Oh, she revealed it on the Conservative Board

    with this and other posts:


    *The liberals are a bunch of chickens running about with their heads cut off, THE SKY IS FALLING!* 


    I realize your board is DEAD, but please go away. 


    I was speaking of the Conservative board.
    And I think the Iranian president is more than nuts, much the way the Iranian gentleman writing the article I speak of suggests.  It might help to identify that you are posting a spoof instead of a serious article in the future.
    oh, it's ok for you to slam the conservative board
    but it's not ok for me to say you're a whiner? Why don't you just live with it? The conservative board is, you know, for conservatives. Let it be, let it be.
    Weren't you just thanking God on the conservative board because

    Which God was that?  THe one that plays favorites?


    Well, since I'm sure you're very fair, maybe you should visit the Conservative board and (at the

    the entire thread beginning with:


    I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm







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    Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
    In Reply to:
    Obviously they are not happy - American Girl


    The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.


     


    And Ending with:


     


    Frankly, AG, they kind of give me the creeps. sm







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    Posted By: Nan on 2005-06-30,
    In Reply to:
    Man, Am I good or what? - American Girl


    Some of the very things they rail about re Homeland Security and invasion of personal privacy seem to be personal character attributes. I decided not to go and read on the libs board anymore. There is no logital debate, except among my liberal friends in "real" life who seem to have grown up a long time ago. At any rate, I have great respect for you, as you know. And I consider you a friend. I will certainly toast to you, as well. Ginger Ale for me. Have a great holiday weekend.


    Well go bloviate on the conservative board with this crap.
    Spare us.
    For your own mental health, go to the conservative board. sm
    You will be better understood and accepted there.

    Find the love.
    Oh, it's not like you haven't stalked on the conservative board. sm
    In fact, I believe that is being investigated right now by Yahoo, if I am not mistaken.  You guys are expert at stalking.   How does it feel?
    You would find more comfort on the conservative board.sm
    Feel free to mozy on over their for some like minded folks.
    post your view on the conservative board
    I think your views should also be posted on the conservative board.  Whats good for the goose is good for the gander..Lets call an all out truce between the conservative posters and liberal posters, then I will agree..however, anyone reading these posts will realize the conservatives time and time again have been the attack dog and the liberals have tried to defend their own. 
    If you are a conservative, go to that board and post. Do not stir the pot here.
    The same is true of liberals. Don't stir up the pot over on the conservatives board it causes entirely too much ugliness and hate.  If you don't like it, I would suggest you find a politics forum that is a free for all mudslinging, unmoderated venue..
    Stay off the conservative board and you won't get so upset. nm

    Conservatives, please post on conservative board. Thank you. nm
    .
    Conservatives, please post on the Conservative board. Thank you. nm
    x
    Conservatives, please post on conservative board. nm
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    Conservatives, please post on the conservative board. nm
    xxx
    routinely portrayed on the conservative board?

    Posters may debate here or on the Conservative board and do so in
    a respectful manner.  There will be no additional forum as these are sufficient.  If you cannot play nice and post with respect, do not post in this forum.  This goes for ANYONE posting, Liberal, Conservative, polka dotted.
    There is a post on the conservative board. I would be happy to find more if you like. NM

    I will, provided courtesy is held on the conservative board as well.
    /
    Just peeked in on the Conservative board, looking for some *nice debates*

    All I saw were you guys *applause applause*-ing each other and the usual ragging on all liberals.  Then I saw ONE courageous soul who attempted to debate with you, followed by the usual and customary *stay off the board* warnings to the poster.


    So it seems you guys consider nice debate as ganging up and attacking posters who disagree with you.


    Maybe that's the problem here.  We view nice debate in two different ways.


    We view it as being nice to other posters and not personally attacking those who disagree with us.  We don't claim to know what they are thinking and feeling in their minds and hearts, and we find those who insist on being nasty to others very distasteful and crude.  We don't LIKE to act the way that you neocons act.  We'd rather be friendly and civilized. That's why you're not welcome here.  It's not because of what you believe.  It's because you are unable to act like decent human beings, and you don't know how to treat other people.


    Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
    Liar.
    And since you post regularly on the Conservative board, you are not a pro-choicer. nm
    x
    The posts on the conservative board were supported by videos. sm
    These videos all showed US Soldiers discussing their views on the war.  Much different than something you read in print. I would also like to say that the Military Times is NOT an armed forces newspaper.  It is privately owned and does not in any way speak for the military.  The generals are saying they will resign if we go into Iran. 
    To talk about issues....same as the liberals who go to the conservative board...
    Also puzzled...what does it matter to you anyway?
    Another one from the Conservative board. Is it playing nice to call someone an insufferable

    I believe the whole thread containing this post should be deleted, since they are all along the same lines and contain personal attacks against people who don't agree with them. Fair is fair, right?


    ****


    You insufferable elitist snob. sm




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    Posted By: MT2 on 2005-06-28,
    In Reply to: Do you ever say anything intelligent? - MTME

    I am sure they have had to widen the doorways in your house to get your head through it.  Get over yourself.  


    This post part of which I have copied from the conservative board is over the line

    Well, gotta tell ya all..I have tried to take the conservative posts and laugh about them..but, however, being a descendant of the Holocaust, having lost great-great family members and still having a beloved friend who was a survivor, with tattoos on her arms and memories to tell all...I TOTALLY STRIKE OUT AT THIS POST..CALLING ME A NAZI IS THE MOST WORSE THING ANYONE COULD CALL ME..AND IM AM MOST DEFINITELY GOING TO CONTACT THE MONITOR AND ADMINISTRATOR..THIS IS UNCALLED FOR..THIS ATTACK IS IGNORANT..These ignorant people throw around genocide and nazi and THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE EVEN POSTING ABOUT..


     **At least on these boards the two-initialed Nazi is allowed get away with her genocide of anything conservative, but that's not helping the post count on the board at all.**


    Then you didn't read the article on the conservative board. nuff said.

    au contraire.....what they do on the conservative board is bash the left....plain and simple. I thi
    ..
    Did anyone see the 60 Minutes segment...

    ...Sunday night about the cancer clinic that's closing due to lack of funds?  I can't begin to describe how angry I became when I saw this. 


    After greedy, immoral Wall Street crooks created a worldwide economic crisis, while walking away with millions or billions, there are Americans who have been handed death sentences because of lack of MONEY.

    I believe the entire health "insurance" industry needs to become extinct (except for maybe one or two companies for the "elite" in this country who believe they're superior and can afford astronomical rates). These links are a little old, but they give you an idea of how much healthcare "insurance" executives earn: http://blogs.webmd.com/mad-about-medicine/2007/08/ceo-compensation-who-said-healthcare-is.html and http://www.harp.org/hmoexecs.htm.

    Certainly, these outrageous salaries, combined, plus all the other auxiliary costs that go along with this "industry" would go a long way toward funding a single-payer NONprofit healthcare plan.  No doubt that much of their income comes as an incentive for denying benefits to patients.


    You insure your car because you MIGHT have an accident someday. You insure your home because you MIGHT need to file a claim someday. The premiums are based on overall risk.  However, EVERYONE will become ill at some point in his/her life, and we have now become a country that will only accept "survival of the fittest," while systematically "thinning out the herd" based on who has the least amount of income.  To "insure" health is like buying an insurance policy to insure that your bread won't go stale at some point after you buy it; it's completely irrelevant to whether a person has a job.  And if that person, God forbid, LOSES that job, then COBRA kicks in with usually much more expensive premiums.  So once again, if someone has no or little income, it costs MORE to insure his/her health.

    Capitalism is good for some things, but it's the absolute most immoral idea that one's ability to live or die in a country like America is contingent on how rich that person is. Left unchecked, these companies, in my opinion, are well on their way to becoming the next AIG that the government will bail out because they're "too big to fail," while leaving millions of people to die.

    It's pretty bad when someone like Hugo Chavez, who provides healthcare to the citizens of his country, treats sick people much better than Americans do. 


    Nixon had a different "mindset" about health insurance back in the 1970s when he discovered with glee that insurance companies could make more money by denying services, so HMOs were invented.  It's again time to adopt a different mindset, one that's moral and one that doesn't literally leave Americans to die.  (Reagan had the bright idea to "deregulate" banks, an idea which Clinton enthusiastically embraced and Bush was only too happy to continue, and we see where that got us:  The Wall Street crooks won, and the people who trusted them with their money lost.)

    After I saw this segment, I've NEVER been so ashamed to be an American. This has to stop.

    GET RID OF HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES ALTOGETHER.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/03/60minutes/main4917055.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4917055


    P.S.  Sorry for the rant and sorry if my words might not make sense in some spots, but this really upsets me because I'm one of those people.  I don't qualify for Medicaid and can't afford or can't obtain (preexisting conditions) private or work-offered health insurance.


    Final Palin segment

    I was very impressed with Charlie Gibson.  I am not an ABC news watcher, so I did not know what to expect.  He brought up all the important issues involved in the contradictions between Maverick and Reformer claims including per diem, keeping the money from bridge to nowhere, lobbyists for Alaska, abuse of power in Troopergate, etc. I thought he allowed her to expose her lack of knowledge on foreign affairs.  I thought he, for the most part, keep questioning her on points when she tried to evade questions by throwing out the slogans and talking points. 


    The one point that I had not heard before was the fact that the sendoff for the soldiers she staged in Alaska was timed to be on 9/11 for the publicity, and that the soldiers were not in fact going to leave for 2 to 3 more weeks. 


    All in all, I thought it was a good introduction of the actual Sarah Palin. When you add the tape of McCain disparaging mayors and short-time governors, it was a definitive package for those who have not yet made up their minds in this election.


     


     


    Hardball
    Reporter said Palin being surrounded by Bush press handlers to control her exposure to press.  Achtung, baby.
    I watched Hardball too
    I saw the gentleman that you are talking about. I almost can't watch those shows anymore because it is so scary. I have a feeling that the candidates will have to discuss this issue more and more as the time goes by. Our economy is on the verge of very big trouble and the rising gas prices are a significant part of that. Hopefully, people will start demanding that the candidates come up with a plan.
    That's why they call it Hardball....
    The guests are well aware what they are in for by agreeing to go on his show - I wouldn't want to debate him, I know that!  Actually, the ratings of Olberman and Matthews is what keeps them on the air - they have the highest.
    If anyone can catch Hardball tonight

    on MSNBC, there's a wonderful interview with parents of one of the Marines who was killed in the last couple days in Iraq.


    These people gave the ultimate sacrifice, and IMHO their voices are very important.


    Hardball - Christopher Hitchens

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/  Click on Marching Towards War with Iran (but a perfect appetizer for this clip is the interview with Katherine Harris).


    I was struck by one comment by Hitchens, below.  I've placed blanks where I felt another name could have been used:


    Well, it can be a mistake to take the rhetoric of a nut case like President, so-called President puppet leader _____ at face value but from his rhetoric which at least the _____ allow him to utter, it does look as if _____ does appear to want to fight and believes that it has God on its side.  Now that's actually a very dangerous combination of things.