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We all better study up on socialism..it's on its way

Posted By: votinginde on 2008-10-06
In Reply to: Short clip (less than 3 min.) Please watch this. - charlotte

if people don't smarten up and look beyond the promises and pretty speeches.


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study up on the NDC and no, I won't do your
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brain study
I read a study where they did brain scans on democrats and republicans and while scanning showed pictures of war.  The republican brains lit up on the opposite side than the democrat brains.  So, the study surmised that just maybe our brains were built to work differently and that could be why we have a take on things so radically differently.  I will try to find the article and post the net address.
I know where I live they do have to study and take a ..
test to become an american citizen, then they can legally work in America and pay taxes.  I don't know what it is like where you live though.
Since when did a Bible study..........sm
become a business meeting?

Bible studies, in case you didn't know, are not the same as Sunday morning meetings. They are for discussion and study of the Bible, nothing more, nothing less. Collection plates are not passed and church business is not generally discussed at Bible studies. Churches do have business meetings, however, in which church business is discussed and that is normally done in the church building. Since, as you point out, churches do not pay taxes, then that would, in my estimation, eliminate them as being a business, so therefore, a Bible study is not a business or business meeting. Apart from the subject matter, it is no different than 10 or 15 good old boys getting together on a Sunday afternoon to watch the races on Bubba's big-screen TV.

I read the article and the questions the law officer asked related specifically to a religious organization. I don't remember seeing where he asked if collections were taken during the meeting, only if they prayed, read the Bible, etc. This very much sounds to me like targeting a Christian group, nothing less. I hope the pastor asks his neighbors if they called the police because that is exactly what sounds like happened.
new study states political

leanings are partially genetic.  Those who startle easily are more likely to be republican.  Those who are on a more even keel and do not startle at small noises or movements are more likely to be democrats.  I would say this board supports those conclusions.


 


It seems to me that this study shows that conservatives (sm)
are MORE concerned about others than democrats. They see a picture of SOMEONE ELSE who is hurt or dead and they react more than the democrats. I used to think of myself as being fairly liberal, but if that means being associated with the type of people many of the democrats who post on here appear to be, then no thanks, I'll call myself conservative. Actually I always vote for the candidate I agree with most, regardless of party.
I love to study Revelations

I have read many, many commentaries on Revelations  but I also enjoy researching and studying myself.  There are some, some I know personally, who sincerely believe McCain is the anti-Christ.  I don't believe that.  I do believe the anti-Christ is alive in the world today.  According to the Bible, even we believers will be deceived if it were possible.  We are to watch and wait.  Jesus tells us not to be afraid.  I'm here to tell ya I expect the Rapture at any minute and I also believe that some preachers will still be in the pulpits preaching, politicians will be politicing and they'll all be trying to figure out what happened to all those people. I would urge everyone to accept the free insurance policy offered by Jesus Christ.  If I understand anything in Revelations, it is that the end times are going to be so far worse than anything we can imagine, I sure wouldn't want to be left behind.  Anyone can't help but see if reading the New Testament through and seeking understanding, that the very end times are even now beginning to be played out and this is only the beginning.  This could not have possibly been prophysized 2000 years ago without divine intervention.......that makes total sense to me.


I used to didn't think so but I am beginning to think the U.S. will play some kind of major role in the end times, either that or we will all be brought to our knees.  EVERY knee shall bow..............the thing is, will Jesus be our defense lawyer when we stand before God or will He be our prosecuting attorney?  It'll be one or the other.  My heart breaks for those who hear and refuse to believe.


I scored 54.55% - guess I need to study more.
:-)
Guess what - you can commission a STUDY to say whatever you want it to.
Oh, yes, the great evil VOUCHER. Let us all collectively shudder and quake.

I mean, what an outrage! Letting a PARENT determine what is in the best interest of THEIR CHILD. Oh my God! I mean, whoever heard of a country letting PARENTS make carefully-considered, informed DECISIONS? What's next! Letting women VOTE?! Heaven forbid! Good grief. Do you even understand how the voucher system works? Or do you just Google and let someone else do the thinking for you?

And your solution would be, what? Oh, I know.

Let's all just shove our kids in detention, surround them with barbed wire, and give them more free lunches.

That ought to provide a great crop of citizens, dontcha think?
I heard today that this study
was commissioned during the Bush administration.  However, the timing of its release seems to be no coincidence. 
Having Bible study is NOT a business.....
Are you actually so lame that you believe you have to be in a church to have Bible study? Maybe you need to go to one then.

If Bible study were a business, then having a meeting for cub scouts, girl scouts, weekly poker get togethers would be a business then wouldn't it?

Please...... you and those like you are the problem. They have no beliefs whatsoever in anything and couldn't care less if religious freedom is stripped from us or not.

What a shame! By the way, last time I checked, gays and lesbians have the same rights I do..... they are free to go to Bible study too!!


and a Bible study is not a church either sm
There is a difference. Its about CHRISTIAN persecution!
what part of "Bible study" do you sm
not understand??? A Bible study is not a business meeting. This has nothing to do with taxes. I bet the people that attend the Bible study pay plenty of taxes themselves.

What next, a permit to have more than 15 people over at Thanksgiving and Christmas? Gotta pay taxes???? Please. Tupperware reps and Bible studies.........so far apart. Obviously you know nothing about a simpel Bible study.
I just read an independent study that says that only 20% of the public believe

or associate Democrats with christianity.  It's actually down and has been consistently going down.  Of course, I know a lot of Christian Democrats.  None of them seem to post here, but I know many in my private life. They are far to the right, though, like Democrats use to be


I am plenty old to vote, study all the issues, as well
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I suggest YOU study up on Obama's plan...sm
and see if his plan remotely resembles national healthcare in other countries. All plans are not created equal.
UCLA released a study recently that said...
that the New Deal probably prolonged the depression by at least 7 years. Are you sure that socialism is what the market needs--it is my thought that this problem was well on its way before Bush came into office--caused by the interference in the market that was already in place.
here is a link for you JTBB, study it carefully
You think BUSH STARTED THIS WAR!!! all alone he did it all himself, that dirty b*stard! but wait, if he is so so so dumb like everyone protests he is... how did he pull one THAT BIG over everyone?? yes war sucks, but QUIT with that crap you always spew that it was all his fault

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
again, a Bible study at someones house sm
is not a church service. There shouldn't be collecting money, etc. etc.

If the government keeps this stuff up and the folks that support this kind of stuff keep on, it will be one day where you can't even have a family gathering at your house without a permit!

What if half your neighborhood has 15-20 people at their house for all the holidays? Going by what you have posted, that would be a dangerous situation. Aer there enough exits, proper fire extinguishers, etc. etc. People do it all the time. Its called socializing!

Again this is nothing but a serious effort to stop Christians from gathering at all. Nothing but Satan at work.
again, a Bible study at someones house sm
is not a church service. There shouldn't be collecting money, etc. etc.

If the government keeps this stuff up and the folks that support this kind of stuff keep on, it will be one day where you can't even have a family gathering at your house without a permit!

What if half your neighborhood has 15-20 people at their house for all the holidays? Going by what you have posted, that would be a dangerous situation. Aer there enough exits, proper fire extinguishers, etc. etc. People do it all the time. Its called socializing!

Again this is nothing but a serious effort to stop Christians from gathering at all. Nothing but Satan at work.
And: Study the comma rules and capitalize 'European'
You see, every day you learn something new, from me.

Hehehehe!
County trying to STOP home Bible study in

http://www.10news.com/news/19562217/detail.html


I forgot: Study some English grammar and spelling..nm
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I hope you can find that link. I'd love to read about that study.
Wouldn't poetic justice be served if it was discovered that the conservative brains lit up on the left side?
Socialism
AMEN!!!
The era of socialism
With the bailout by the US government, each and every one of us will be mortgage lenders to the tune of $7000 per taxpayer.  We will officially be socialists, brought to you by your favorite political party the REPUBLICANS. 
what's so bad about socialism?
bring it on!
You won't get socialism. That is #1....
and frankly my greatest concern with Obama.

McCain is the only one talking about reforming Washington, freezing spending except in crucial programs until we get out of this mess...he is talking about more affordable health care, not government controlled health care. Yes, Obama says you can keep your employer insurance and if you can't, the government will take care of you. HOw long do you think employers will be able to offer insurance under Obama's socialist agenda? Not long, because he is increasing taxes on them. And not accidentally either. One step further down the road to socialism.

And I am ready for naming names and showing some responsibility. Unless Obama is an id*ot, he knows that Dodd and Frank are up to their eyeballs in this mess. He should call for their resignations. THAT would show character, which seems to be important to you. The democratic leadership instead PRAISE them for their roles in engineering this bailout. That to me is a total LACK of character. McCain called for the resignation of the Republican involved...Chris Cox. THAT is character.

I see absolutely nothing but a downhill spiral in an Obama administration. The USSA. Venezuela north. NO thank you.
Not only socialism....

he is not even President yet and his campaign and followers are practicing big-time intimidation.  That reporter in Florida had the guts to ask Biden a hard question, the campaign says no soup for you!  Cancelled the rest of the scheduled interviews.  Said they would not be given access in an Obama administration.  A maxed-out contributor to Obama's campaign ordered a background check on Joe the Plumber...just an average American who asked Obama a hard question.  People have been threatened when they say anything negative about him.  What are these people going to do if they get REAL power?  Food for thought.


 


socialism

Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.


So it's okay to consistently call Obama a socialist and not Palin?  Do you even look this stuff up or is that just you being Mavericky?


socialism

An economics professor at Texas Tech University , Lubbock , TX said he had never failed a single student before but had, once, failed an entire class. The majority of that class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.
 
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test the grades were averaged, everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second Test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else.


All failed to their great surprise and the professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail because the harder to succeed the greater the reward but when a government takes all the reward away, no one will try or succeed.




 
When You Reward Failure, All You Get is More Failure!

Viva socialism!!

if you're going to make a statement gt don't beat around the bush.  Just come right out and say it.


I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.


socialism-capitalism
Libby, I have always believed in socialism..socialism and capitalism can work hand in  hand. Socialism has nothing to do with communism or dictatorship..it has to do with providing the life essentials to ALL people, shelter, food, health care, a job for all..respect and not poverty for all, oil to heat our homes in the winter so we dont freeze to death! For pete sake..It blows my mind that the richest country in the world allows some to die in the streets, homeless.  Families in the streets homeless..Those that want jobs cant find them or if they do, it is minimum wage..How the heck can ANYONE survive on minimum wage?  There are just too many capitalists who are making money off of the middle class and working poor and they have strong lobbyists and politicians being paid off to pass bills to help them and companies who no longer care about the workers..
Enough of the socialism accusations

Here's you link expanded.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism


1.  Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. 


2.  a:  A system of society or group living in which there is no private property.  b:  A system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state


3.  A stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done. 


 


Notice that socialism is predicated on the concept of collective/governmental ownership of private property.  Here are a couple of links for you.  Looks like Obama is pretty much into private ownership.  The list below is of title to various economic stimulus plans.  They pretty much seem to be centered around free enterprise concepts.  Now show me your links where Obama has indicated abolishing private ownership and replacing it with government collective ownership, if you don't mind. 


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/


“I believe that America's free market has been the engine of America's great progress. It's created a prosperity that is the envy of the world. It's led to a standard of living unmatched in history. And it has provided great rewards to the innovators and risk-takers who have made America a beacon for science, and technology, and discovery.  We are all in this together. From CEOs to shareholders, from financiers to factory workers, we all have a stake in each other's success because the more Americans prosper, the more America prospers.”— Barack Obama, New York, NY, September 17, 2007


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#home-ownership


Plan to Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud. 


Create a New FHA Housing Security Program


Create a Universal Mortgage Credit


Ensure More Accountability in the Subprime Mortgage Industry


Mandate Accurate Loan Disclosure


Create Fund to Help Homeowners Avoid Foreclosures


Close Bankruptcy Loophole for Mortgage Companies


Establish a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund


Provide $10 billion in Relief for State and Local Governments Hardest-Hit by the Housing Crisis to Prevent Cuts in Vital Services


Invest in our Next Generation Innovators and Job Creators


Double Funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership/Job creation


Invest In A Clean Energy Economy And Create 5 Million New Green Jobs


Create New Job Training Programs for Clean Technologies


Boost the Renewable Energy Sector and Create New Jobs


Provide Tax Relief for Small Businesses and Start Up Companies


Raise the Minimum Wage


Expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit


 


There are many more examples but I just got tired of cut and paste. 


She's smart enough what socialism is all
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You got it, Sam.... and socialism will kill our
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Socialism IS an issue. nm
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No socialism, nobama, no way. nm
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Socialism vs dictatorship
Didn't Bush make the comment, "if this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so I'm the dictator."  Well, he appointed himself the "decider" didn't he?  We're closer to a dictatorship than we've ever been.  I will not be totally surprised if we come under martial law before the election takes place.  There are major issues at stake here people.  Instead of arguing for or against McCain/Palin, Obama/Biden, we need to discussing what we can do to change the course of America and neither of these clowns are going to provide the change we need...that is going back to government of the people, for the people.  So long as they can keep us fighting over Democrats/Republicans, we don't have time to address the REAL ISSUES.  Our very freedom is at risk!!!!!
Is that your only argument for socialism?
My word....people are committing adultery on both sides of the fence, that will never change. What in the world does that have to do with socialism and socialists candidate?
I know what the definition of socialism is
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Sounds like socialism. nm
nm
"Hopeful" for what? socialism? No, they are
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Socialism Question
For those who are crying socialism; how come no one has said that about the credits people get for having children (for how long now)? Childless people are contributing money for that.

Isn't our government suppose to work for the good of all (to the best it can)? I think it's called team work not socialism.

It has to be examined and monitored carefully so there are no gross malfunctions. There have been. It's time to reorganize.
we are not being forced into socialism -
Obama is not a socialist.

I might would agree that we woudl be socialized if Hillary had won, but I do not consider Obama a socialist.
We have had aspects of socialism since
the introduction of income tax and the creation of social security. We are even farther into a socialistic state with the recent bailouts and the more to come. As far as your concerns about a Marxist state, you have fewer of your constitutionally guaranteed rights now than ever before.

It is not going to matter who is president, the next few years are going to be tough.
For those of you who so fear socialism

(and I don't want to see socialism), what do you think the Bush administration has done?  Buying interests in banks, etc.


I also know quite a few wealthy folks and some who are just well-to-do.  All grieve their losses in the stock market and they are all RABID REPUBLICANS who supported John McCain.  They HATE Obama.  They "get it."  They hate him because they believe  he is going to raise their taxes so he can lower taxes on the working class.  All of them have been part of the working class.  The wealthiest one is a widow who married her money.  They aren't afraid of "Robin Hood," they're afraid of having to give back some of the windfall Bush gave them with his tax cuts.


Just the beginning of socialism
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You think O is the answer? Socialism does not
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socialism for a shrinking planet
Im not beating around the bush.  Im amazed there is a leader who is that compassionate to care for all of his people.  I cant remember a time when America had a leader like that.  Closest I can think of is when Social Security was created.  Socialism is a fair ideology for all the people of a country.  Capitalism certainly isnt, that is unless all a person cares about is making as much money as they can and then locking themselves away in a gated community, driving on the outskirts of the ghetto areas of downtown so they dont have to see how the unfortunate ones live.  I, on the other hand, care about people.  I put caring before money.  All Americans should have a well paying job, a chance to go to college, even if you cant afford it, a roof over your head, a full belly at night, medical care.  One major thing that eats away at me is knowing some people do not go through life happy because their whole life is a neverending struggle, mostly due to no fault of their own.  I see the writing on the wall, too bad the fat cat capitalists who are so greedy and hording that money away dont.  As the population grows in the world, supplies and resources will dwindle.  Government programs will have to be created to take care of the people whose only fault is they werent born with a silver spoon in their mouth and not born when houses were inexpensive, college was easy to get into and inexpensive, jobs were plentiful and not outsourced, etc.  The masses will out-mass the greedy capitalists and then we will see something like what is happening in Venezuela now..Equality for ALL Americans in the basic needs of life and dignity.  Sure there are some fat cat capitalists who are truly good people and are helping the unfortunate and I applaud them but from what I have seen, the majority of the super rich, dont give a darn about the working class or working poor or poor.  No person should die on the street for lack of housing or only have a minimum wage job so they cant afford to rent or buy.  No person should go to bed at night hungry even though they have worked one or two jobs but had to choose between the rent, gas or food.  I see where Capitalism can go hand and hand with Socialism and that is what truly is going to happen.  America, the richest country on earth, yet we dont have medical care for our citizens, we have homeless in the streets, maternity leave is not paid for, we take the less amount of vacation days than any other industrialized country.  When Kruschev visited America for the first time, he asked why did America have homeless.  He stated that The Soviet Socialists Republic did not have homeless, they might have a few families living in the same apartment but they werent homeless.  How shameful for America.  America might have been great a few decades ago but it is leaving much to want for now and it will only get worse with the division of the classes..poor, working poor, middle class, rich and super rich, which is happening now, and the dwindling resources and opportunities.  Now, go ahead, call me a raging lunatic.  You have your right to your opinion, however, this is my take on today's America and it makes my heart heavy. 
A vote for this person = Socialism at its best. sm

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Jose f Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above


Answers:



(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005