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Well, Leno leans pretty far to the right, so

Posted By: a left-leaning talk show host balances it all out. on 2009-06-12
In Reply to: see link: Letterman has "his" coming - No Shock Value Left

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After his Ellen, Leno, Letterman, View,
Rachael Ray, SNL, etc. he probably just does not want to share the spotlight with her, but I agree. He owes her this dance, especially after standing in the shadows behind the Winking One.
got a link - Obama said on Leno - the dog comes in April -
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/03/first-dog-is-co.html
For me Conan is thefunniest, then Leno, Letterman comes in 3rd...nm
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Snopes.com leans to the left

Snopes.com leans to the left


July 29th, 2008 · No Comments · General Politics, Politics



Like many others I have used Snopes.com to check things out and make sure what I am reading is actually true.  I never really questioned them before, but then the other day I was reading an item on AL Gore and I began wondering to myself, why are they trying to justify why Gore said this.


I then started to look at other items and found the same thing.  Even when accusations were found to be true about liberals, Snopes would try to either explain it away or defend the position.  Unbeknown to me, this has already been well documented by others for items on the Clintons, John Kerry, Gore, and Barack Obama.


I did a little research and found that the site is run by Barbara and David Mikkelson, a couple from California.  From all accounts I have read, they are Obama supporters, but then of course probably support other Democratic candidates as well.


Now I am not saying that Snopes.com is a completely useless site because they usually do a good job on hoax emails…especially outside of politics. But you should always read what they say with a critical eye and be wary when they don’t just give the facts and start to defend a position.  If you see this I would suggest you check out other fact checking sites to collaborate what they say.


Snopes leans to the left

I can see a blind conservative thinking that perhaps Snopes is politically motivated toward the left. However, just for fun, I looked up the issue of Osama Bin Laden’s family being flown out of the U.S. immediately following the 9/11 attacks, when most air traffic had been grounded. Snopes says this, too, was false. Here, it quotes heavily from the 9/11 commission. Members of the Bin Laden family, the commission concludes, were not flown out before air space were re-opened.


But Snopes, via the 9/11 commission citations, does show that the Bin Ladens were flown out September 20th. The FBI questioned them, but then let them fly out. The commission also says one of the FBI agents who questioned the family was a pilot for the flight, though the vagueness of the report could lead one to conclude that the FBI agent was a pilot in general and not the pilot of the flight. Which begs the question, why mention it at all unless they meant that an FBI agent was the pilot flying the Bin Laden escape plane in question…


Anyway, the point of the whole Bin Ladens leaving the States is that they were allowed to leave so effortlessly and with our government’s help. It sounds great to say the government flew them out when all air traffic was grounded, but that’s just icing. That Snopes claims the rumor is false while the underlying point that the U.S. flew the Bin Ladens out of the States is true shows that Snopes is no more left-leaning than right-leaning. It’s admirable. They seem to take the tack that “if part of statement is false, the whole statement is false.” Very mathematical.


http://www.lekowicz.com/wren_forum/2006/03/14/705/


 


and leans right other times, but makes
Gourdpainter, you go girl!
Well, actually he leans more Marxist than socialist...
I did not know that until I studied up on it. However...I have always said I do not agree with McCain on everything and this is certainly one of those things.
Coulter On Leno: Jeepers, Creepers, Where'd ya Get those Freepers?

The truth about the *applause* Coulter received on the Tonight Show right from the planted freeper's mouth, including the celebration with Ann after the show. 



 

Ann Coulter on the Tonight Show and Freeper Party: Freeper Report
The Tonight Show | June 14, 2006 | Cinnamon Girl

Posted on 06/14/2006 9:19:42 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

Jay Leno gives you a little notice, a little warning of sorts, before taping his show, that it just wouldn't be nice or appropriate to shout out stuff or boo or heckle any of the guests because, hey, everyone should be able to come and share their views. But even if a grungy, dreadlocked white kid in a Che t-shirt did decide to heckle Ann Coulter, there was a rather large group of Freepers, conservative/Republican activists and friends in the audience to overwhelm them.

But there was no heckling and very little by way of booing, except of course, when Jay read the passage from Ann's book in which she describes the self-serving Jersey Girls. At that point, there were some hisses in the audience, but Ann plowed ahead, as she always does.

And some on the web seemed to be under the impression that Ann Coulter and the elderly George Carlin were going to face off, but when has there ever been a political debate on the Jay Leno Show? Carlin came on, did his unfunny shtick, no one knew where the comedy was, and he sat down on the couch. Then Ann came on and got some strangely pointed questions from Jay, who seemed to want to please his leftist producers/writers without really knowing where he was going with the interview. He did ask Ann if it ever hurt her feelings when people criticize her, and she said no.

Some things should go without saying but in case you weren't sure: yes, we cheered her loudly and often, yes, she wore a black sleeveless mini-dress, yes, George Carlin is an unfunny leftist. However, Carlin did not argue with Ann or treat her rudely. The only thing that indicated his feelings was when he grimaced a few times when she spoke about liberal men.

The musical guest was some chick from Scotland who stank, but had a mysterious message taped to her guitar which read: THIS MACHINE KILLS FACISTS. Nobody seemed to know what this meant, but I did notice that at the end of the show she shook Carlin's hand, then Ann's, but then immediately focused a conversation on Carlin and didn't even glance at Ann again, as if she wasn't there.

After the show, we went to a restaurant across the street and Ann, ever gracious with her fans, joined the group for photos, book signings, and questions. Imagine, with her busy schedule promoting her book, that she would take the time to hang out with us. RonDog, who had orchestrated most everything on the Freeper side, was there, as was Doug from Upland, tame, Rockitz, rantblogger, Andrew Breitbart, and even a well known banned Freeper.

For the Page Six folks, it looked like Ann was sipping a strawberry daiquiri, carrying a Chanel bag, and her hair color looked beautiful. I asked her if, when she was chatting during the commercial breaks with George Carlin, if he was kind to her. She said he was actually quite nice, contrary to what some may have expected. But remember, this is Hollywood, and most celebrities when sober, fear public rejection (by way of booing, to their face.) Even Michael Moore toned down his act (in mixed company) after people booed his Shame on you, Mr. Bush speech at the Oscars. Or perhaps Carlin just isn't like that these days.

Thank you, Ann, for being so gracious, and to RonDog for getting hold of tickets for so many of us.

A very intelligent and honorable man, but the articles leans severely to the right.....sm
I tipped over twice reading it. I am not trying to be mean or facetious, I think sometimes people feel so strongly in their beliefs,and I agree with many of his beliefs, that they comes get "tunnel vision", they lose their peripheral vision for that part of humanity that has been good and honest, but has been dealt some very bad, unfair blows and needs help. In my own heart and opinion, there is a difference between radical, fundamentalist Muslims, and mainstream, peaceful, truly religions Muslims, and have have met and worked with many with lovely families. Basically, the author seems to want to cling onto an idealistic life where everything is fair, the good guys always win, and there is only black and white. Well, there are lots of shades of gray in between, and like it or not (and I grew up in the Beaver Cleaver generation), the earth has moved on, time has moved on, and we have to deal effectively with WHAT IS. Yup, I am tired too, especially since my husband and I both have health issues, we certainly aren't kids anymore, and retirement is looking more and more like a pipe dream, even though we invested, sacrificed, and saved. But whining or wishing will not solve anything, as Americans we are famous for pulling ourselves up by the bootstraps and getting the job done, and our job now is to work together, search out viable answers, care for each other, and pull through this depression INTACT AND WHOLE. Off my ratty soapbox now!
Isn't she pretty?
She looks like a normal person too, not a clueless politican who has never paid a bill.
McCain and his wife scare me but I am so excited about her!
I'm pretty sure
that this post didn't have anything to do with Obama. The topic is McCain/Contra in this post. I can't stand either of them, but thanks for the advice.
pretty much
it is unlikely that we are ever going to agree, and honestly, I just come here to interact with adults. I just moved here, my husband is deployed and I don't know anyone, so it is nice to "talk" to adults. It is all good natured (on my part anyway) and I really just like to argue

I think you pretty much did that all by yourself. nm

So you just pretty much sent me to ...

the bad place with fire and stuff because of a joke that had absolutely nothing to do with religion based simply on the fact that I am an A... (the one whose name shall not be mentioned).


 


Pretty sure
Pretty certain that you are going to be standing before God too, right?  Or are u exempt?  Anyway, I bet he doesnt like foul-mouthed witch hunters one bit!  I also bet he doesnt like it when his children start fights and are accusatory to innocent people.  You have a high horse, what is it's name? 
Pretty sad but just think
how many ignorant people will come back with.....but he is cutting the budget.  LOL.  All his sheeple will hear is budget cut and they are on board with him as per usual.  If Obama promised to stop farting in an effort to lessen pollution.....his adoring fans would praise him from the highest mountain for all to hear. 
Pretty sure that ()
who used to sign herself .-  (dot/dash).  Someone mentioned this a week or so ago and I have to agree.  Same style, similar typos, same strange sentence structure and confrontational attitude.  Anybody else noticing this? 
It must pretty convenient
to cut and paste and post the same 1st-grade name calling, hate-filled rant everyday.  It cuts out time spent in the creativity process...
Seems pretty important to me
Well, if his trustee is saying Frist was updated regularly on his blind trust, I kind of think that is something.  It is a formal investigatinn by the SEC.  I kind of think that is something. 
Seems pretty on target to me :o)

Tongue in cheek..but I gotta tell ya, some of this is true, from my experience living in NY, CA and VA.


Subject: Dear Friends, (Retirees and Those Planning to Retire. Here are some very helpful tips that are just too true to ignore:




As  we all know, when we hit retirement age we come face to face with the fact  that it may be time to relocate. The big question is: where to? Here are some tips.




You can live in Phoenix, Arizona where.....You are willing to park 3 blocks away because you found shade. :-)You can open and drive your car without touching the car door or the steering wheel. You've experienced condensation on your butt from the hot water in the toilet bowl. You would give anything to be able to splash cold water on your face. You can attend any function wearing shorts and a tank top. Dress Code is meaningless at high schools and universities. Picture lingerie ads. You can drive for 4 hours in one direction and never leave town. You have over 100 recipes for Mexican food. The 4 seasons are: tolerable, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!!  You know that dry heat is comparable to what hits you in the face when you open your oven door.


You can Live in California where...You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house.  The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone.  The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway.  You know how to eat an artichoke.  You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party. Then someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.


You can Live in New York City where..You say the city and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map. You think Central Park is nature, You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language makes you multi-lingual. You've worn out a car horn. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.


You can Live in Maine where... You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco. Halloween costumes fit over parkas. You have more than one recipe for moose. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and construction.


You can Live in the Deep South where...You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store. Y'all is singular and all y'all is plural. After five years you still hear, You ain't from ' round here, are Ya? He needed killin' is a valid defense. Everyone has 2 first names:  Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, MARY BETH,  etc.


You can live in Colorado where...You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center. A pass does not involve a football or dating. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.


You can live in the Midwest where...You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor. You have had to switch from heat to A/C on the same day. You end sentences with a preposition: Where's my coat at? When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, It was different!


AND You can live in Florida where...You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.


Wow! Looks pretty good.

I love the sentence, *Are you tired of boards that claim to stand for Free Speech but delete your posts or ban you outright for speaking your mind?* 


Thanks, gt!


That's pretty much the point isn't it? SM
Why call someone a racist for not being fond of the French? 
This was pretty good.
I agree about the dress, though.  It looks like the same one she wore on the Tonight Show.  Must be her *Today/Tonight* dress.  With her *best-selling* (paltry) 48,000 in book sales, you'd think she could afford to buy another dress.
pretty funny huh?

She's telling other people to pay attention to posts when she can't do it herself.


Yeah pretty much.

It would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so true.  :-(


I wonder why Bush refuses to go after Bin Laden now, after all that **wanted, dead or alive** rhetoric he spouted.  I seriously wonder if Bin Laden is on Bush's payroll.


Pretty much practice
But I have to admit, even with all that practice I'll never be a master like you are.  I'll always be just an amateur compared to you.
This is pretty interesting.
What stands out to me the most I think is that those polled still feel that the republicans are better at handling the terrorist problem than the democrats. How is that at all possible? Especially in light of the plethora of information about how poorly it has been handled from the get go? It shows just how deeply inset certain belief systems are regardless of whether or not they are true or based on fact.

Example of that is Huckabee. How naive can people be? This guy is running on his religion and people are swallowing it, especially the so-called values voters, when in actuality he is probably the most untrustworthy and least capable.

Go figure.
Yes, it is pretty childish....
if you don't like the way I play, get out of my sandbox. Very Democratic and liberal of you, piglet.

Not much of social value from conservatives? Emancipation proclamation? Voting for women and African Americans? Nah, from YOUR point of view, I guess that is not much. I believe they have all been sustainable. But if course, doing one of those things involved fighting a war to bring it about. And we all know liberals (well except John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson...uh...) RUN from wars, right??

Not willing to compromise one iota, and doing the piglet post of disdain for anyone who dares disagree with you.

Grab your hoe and torch and head for the castle. That is about the extent of your idea of a "social movement." And have the nerve to say you have the welfare of the common man in your heart. Pull the other leg, piglet.
So pretty much Jesus would be like,

that's hilarious.  Of course I can't say what He would do or say and neither can you, but didn't He teach to take care of those that can't take care of themselves?  It is very hypocritical of you to talk about a country that murders millions of babies being morally wrong and in the same breath say it's okay let children die or suffer because their parents could not afford (or chose not to purchase) good healthcare.  It's not the kids' fault if they got irresponsible parents or parents that were not in the upper-middle class.  Should they suffer for their parents' sins/shortcomings?


Now this is pretty funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPxSm9Es0w


Got to love those tough questions!


The only possible way is pretty far-fetched...
but if his goal was to remain as President, he would not have to start a war. Could declare a national state of emergency. The President (any President) can declare a national state of emergency and at that point they can do just about whatever they want, including conceivably cancel a national election. There is provision for that in law. However...I can't see Congress allowing that. If he did that, he would be impeached fortwith (and so he should be if he tried something like that, if ANY President tried it). And absent a bonafide national emergency, I sure can't see him going down that road. That much of a cowboy he ain't.
that's pretty funny, especially like the hug
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You seemed pretty proud yourself
Like the other poster said, own up or take cover. Defend your candidate's views and positions or bash, slam ad slur to an audience of 1.
Pretty funny!


haha.... that's pretty LOW! That should be
(Though the latter does more closely resemble my own yearly income......)
This pretty much sums up most

My Answer To The President is a good read.......



http://www.campaignforliberty.com/


 


Pretty funny really.......
Obama making a statement earlier that "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree".   Well, I guess he's right.  ACORN didn't fall far from his tree.  Matter of fact, he helped that ACORN get bigger and bigger and bigger!     
That's pretty cool....sm
to have something you're that passionate about, in your life. For me, it's the wildlife that I see out my window every day.


I was at our last farmer's market for the season the other day, and thought of you immediately, because the gal there, when I asked about this beautiful, large green gourd, what it was called (I thought it might be a certain kind, because it was round and smooth and tall)...and she goes, "It's a gourd, it just grew that way. You wait until it dries and then you can do all sorts of things with them, use as decorations, and even paint them...."

And I go to myself....gourdpainter!!!!


Pretty much shows
what we could expect from his administration.  More lunacy.  He wanted to win at all costs and he no doubt thought Palin would deliver Clinton supporter's votes.  After that fiasco how anyone can think he will turn this country around is beyond me.
seems pretty selfish....
no rights for the father....
Pretty hypocritical
that you can't thank one without smearing the other.
This pretty much sums up Mrs. M

This is one of her posts:  "Obama won by majority and It's time for people to back the new president and be patriotic."


Only a terrible racist person would suggest that we be supportive of our president and be PATRIOTIC!!! 


RIGHT?!


But, hey, if you guys allege it, it must be true.


It's pretty simple
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Pretty disgusting if you ask me
I thought the whole world was going to end if they didn't get their bail-out.  Key point:  Union leaders summoned to Detroit to make concessions.  Lower wages for American workers and the auto employees never made $70 an hour to begin with.  Guess they can look forward to wages competing with Mexican wages.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.

Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.

Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.
It should be pretty obvious

I really think all of these "bail-outs" were actually a long time in the planning and went off according to schedule.  The way the Wall Street bail out was handled, just give them the cash, no oversight, a 2 page application, etc. tells it's own story.  The salaries and bonuses given to the CEOs is nothing short of disgusting.  Yet people have the unmitigated gall to whine because union workers earn a decent living.  Working class people should be squarely behind the UAW workers and AGAINST the CEOs who are begging for our money while flying to the begging table in their private jets.  Heck most of us when we fly have to take coach class.  First class is reserved for the like of the Victoria Olsteens.  At least they aren't rich enough YET to afford their private jet.


Your husband may as well go on down to Washington and ask for a handout but I doubt he'll get it.....now if the real estate commission in your state went, they MIGHT get a bail out that wouldn't even trickle down to your husband.  Bush and Cheney care not one iota for common people.....witness their "so what?" and "so?"  Now that their days are numbered they can say what they want and still there are those on this board who can't see them for what they are.  CROOKS!!!!! 


She seems pretty secure to me.

her every word" because she likes the truth and when someone posts a big fat lie on this board, she can see it and can prove it wrong. I know those annoying "FACTS" can get in the way of someone who is trying to spread fodder that contains little or no truth. She seems to have inner peace, and many of her posts on this board are pretty funny too so I guess her sense or humor and "joy" are intact as well. Unlike you, I won't be arrogant enough to pretend to know anything about her personal life. Just how do you know she doesn't have a "life of joy with true friends and family"? And how do you know she doesn't have a life other than one that "consists of I guess just basically having a life other than transcribing, hating Bush and proclaiming to be an atheist."? Have you ever met her? How many family members does she have?  How many friends does she have? What color is her hair?  Her eyes? Does she prefer puppies over kittens or both or none? How tall is she? With the "knowledge" you claim to have, those questions should be pretty easy for you to answer, and I look forward to reading those answers.


She seems pretty secure to me.

her every word" because she likes the truth and when someone posts a big fat lie on this board, she can see it and can prove it wrong. I know those annoying "FACTS" can get in the way of someone who is trying to spread fodder that contains little or no truth. She seems to have inner peace, and many of her posts on this board are pretty funny too so I guess her sense or humor and "joy" are intact as well. Unlike you, I won't be arrogant enough to pretend to know anything about her personal life. Just how do you know she doesn't have a "life of joy with true friends and family"? And how do you know she doesn't have a life other than one that "consists of I guess just basically having a life other than transcribing, hating Bush and proclaiming to be an atheist."? Have you ever met her? How many family members does she have?  How many friends does she have? What color is her hair?  Her eyes? Does she prefer puppies over kittens or both or none? How tall is she? With the "knowledge" you claim to have, those questions should be pretty easy for you to answer, and I look forward to reading those all-knowing answers.


I'm pretty sure you don't get your healthcare from
nm
No, actually I'm pretty happy, but...
...thanks for asking.