Late Night Politics
Posted By: AnnuderMT on 2009-06-12
In Reply to: IMHO, I've never thought he was that funny... - Zville MT
I don't really think that Leno is conservative. He's a good friend of the Arnold the Governator, but I think that it is more on a personal level than political. Keep in mind, also, that these guys have teams of writers so while they approve the joke, they don't necessarily represent solely their opinion, and anybody who thinks that Leno's humor is conservative, clearly missed the last 8 years of Bush jokes and the Dan Quayle jokes that still pop up.
I had not watched Letterman when he was in the time slot following Carson, but when he first went to CBS, I used to. However, his 'humor' got to be where it just seemed very mean-spirited, and while it had a certain shock value to it and was maybe funny the first time in an adolescent kind of way, it wasn't long before I couldn't stomach it anymore and made the switch to Leno, where I had stayed. Conan has his moments and is probably the least political of the 3, but while not mean-spirited, his humor does sometimes come across as very juvenile, pull-my-finger type stuff (although he does some skits about his Taurus that had me rolling on the floor).
Political humor at the expense of the kids has been around for a while, but fortunately is rarely brought out. If I recall correctly, Chelsea Clinton took some pretty big hits, and there may have even been a few Amy Carter jokes (but that's a little further back than I can trust my memory). If I also recall correctly, Saturday Night Live was where a lot of the early political child barbs came from. I think Bristol Palin has put herself out there in the public eye so I'm not opposed to her getting a few shots, but Letterman's were in exceedingly poor taste. Then again, Letterman has been endorsed by Howard Stern, so I guess the crudeness comes as no surprise.
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Last I heard late last night was
Supposedly car companies are just "burning" up money each month. We need more economic and fuel efficient cars NOW, but car companies are saying it will take 2 years. Car companies as of right now do not have enough money for the end of this quarter and money will be dried up. No purchasing cars through lenders and so on. Pelosi and her crew do not know what do. If car companies are bailed out now, they will probably have to be bailed out again and again for the next 2 years. If Pelosi allows to keep bailing out the car companies, next will be the airlines and so on. Pelosi might decide to just let car companies bankrupt. That will be hundreds of thousands of jobs gone along with lawyers, human resources, paper product companies, and everything related to car companies. Sounds like we are heading for The Great Depression. This was all on CNMBC news late last night. I AM NOT FOR DOOM AND GLOOM, but I do look at facts and not through rose colored glasses. It is utter chaos. I personally hope car companies do get bailed out. I have never owned a foreign made car. But if we bail them out, that means airlines next and so on. That will come from us or added onto the deficit.
These late night political events
are just killing me. I keep staying up to watch and then I stay up later to hear the media discuss everything. Why must this stuff be so addicting? I know I should just go to bed because it will be repeated 1,000 times the next day......but I can't help myself. I'm going to go hook up my coffee IV to keep me awake this morning.
I post late at night, and count the NEXT day as #1)
I saw that last night. I have never liked her politics, and she just reinforced why I don't last
I thougth you signed off for the night with a good night to all
Welcome back. Yeah, I saw the same flip off he gave Hillary - nice gesture and respect to a woman who fought hard to get where she is at. Such disrespect.
BTW - I don't know anyone who uses their middle finger to scratch their face.
She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.
Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
Yes, last night was party night.
I was actually very disappointed in the Obama party. I thought we were going to discuss issues and where Obama stood on the issues, but the lady from the Democratic Headquarters that came to give that information only passed out papers that were printed directly off of his website - already read that. The other thing I was disappointed in was that it seemed everyone there was a Hillary supporter and talked endlessly about her rather than Obama (no, I didn't get snarky and remind them that she was not running=). Unfortunately, I don't really feel like I learned more than what I did off of his website. It was nice to chat with my friends and meet some new people, but other political-wise, it was a waste of time. That's not to say that all Obama parties would be that way and I do encourage anyone who gets invited to one, whether you're Republican or Democrat, to attend - the person in charge of that one might be more knowledgable than the one from the party I was at. Thanks again to all who sent me websites to check out beforehand!!!
Too little, too late ?????
I was clarifying my position. Are you not the one who **doesn't need a mother spouting moral holier-than-thou sermons** and the one who is **sick of it.** Telling me too little to late, you can't backpeddle now, the damage is done!!! Are you serious??? What damage, to whom, what backpeddling??. If you are reading my post as an apology you are mistaken. It was just clarification to Observer's post where she said she did not understand why I thought the president should not be there...and I answered her that was not what I meant.
I know it's too late now
But does anyone else look at these two candidates for president and think, This is it? The best the United States has to offer?
For that matter, I thought the same thing before the primaries. I don't know if any of these yahoos has what it takes.
It's sad, really.
I think it is too late
to save him. His choice of her shows impulsivity and pandering. People are aware of these characteristics now. Sarah will contribute to his defeat at the hands of the voters, but she is not responsible for it.
Also, too little, too late . . .
there is absolutely no sincerity in McCain's efforts to now try to undo the damage he has done. He is so insincere that his own supporters don't believe him now. He is the one that encouraged this mob fervor in the first place and now he had literally created monstors!
Sorry so late.
No they don't supply BK, at least not at this time.
It's a little late in the game, isn't it?
It's late...never mind nm
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At this point, I think it is too late.
They WILL steal the election, but I am voting for McCain anyway. Absolutely disgraceful what is going on.
Late term...(sm)
If the infant is able to survive outside the womb, then it would fall on the physician to do whatever possible to save that life (even if that includes refusing to do an abortion), just like any other. I don't think you'll find too many docs who will actually do abortions that late because it's increasingly dangerous for the mother. I think most clinics only go up to about 15 or 16 weeks anyway. I do think that if you are going to have an abortion it should be done in a timely manner anyway for the mother's health. I also believe that if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy, a late-term abortion may be necessary. And then there's the money. I wonder how many people have to opt for late-term abortions because it takes them that long to get the money for the abortion. Yet another reason to add in abortion to family planning services.
This was in the late 70s early 80s
As far as I know, none of my friends slept with these students. One of the guys used to come up to our hometown and spend the night and never ever acted like he was interested in "conquering" my friend or I. We were all just friends. maybe the times were different?
Keep your hate - you are much too late
http://www.bornagainamerican.org/
Am I too late to vote?? AGAINST!!!
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This is a little late, but here is my opinion
Gore is a sore loser and should keep his mouth shut. He is still bitter over losing the election and every time he opens his mouth it shows. He was worthless as VP and even more worthless now. His whole life is based on lies he creates thinking everyone is so stupid they will believe him. Nothing he has to say is of any significance and if he crawled back into the hole he crawled out of the world would be a better place.
Gore has no right to criticize anything anyone has to say.
He talks about policies being un-American? What I consider un-American is putting out the lies about global warming, while he rides around with his enterage (sp?) of limos, SUVs, and planes. And is trying to bank off of this farce he is creating, and just so happens the companies that you buy (or whatever it is you do) with the carbon credits...he gains financially from.
I'm certainly no Cheney fan, but Gore critizing him???? I wish Mr. Hore would just go away.
Probably a little too late........ but have a great vac, ! nm
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But that's the whole McCain strategy of late! sm
Keep repeating the same lies and half-truths over and over in spite of the facts, and some people will believe it. Oh, and make sure to keep people really, really afraid. That always works well for Republicans too.
Hey, it worked for George W. Bush, and here we are, 8 years later, with Karl Rove and friends at it again now, this time for McCain. "Country First"? More like "party first" and "winning first" for McCain.
A day late and a dollar short......
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too late, Bush has already taken care of that
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I think it is way too late now to make a change...sm
I think that McCain was not allowed to pick who he wanted to be his running mate and pressured by the extreme right wing of the republican party to choose her, most likely men thinking that her choice would win over democrat and independent women. Big mistake. I think if he was still the old John McCain, he probably could have gotten Colin Powell as his running mate. I hope Obama appoints him to secretary of defense or secretary of state in his administration.
It's getting late and the lack of information
way more time than I have at the moment to address. Obama spent much time in Kenya in an OFFICIAL capacity....sent there while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I will be expanding on this tomorrow and look forward to the slam dunk that a few tiny facts will exact on this trash you are trying to peddle.
My late husband is buried
next to a plot where unborn fetuses (is that the plural????) are born. Very sad. Those parents keep flowers on the little graves. Obviously those were unborn children who were wanted by their parents.
Kendra, sorry. It's late for me and I was being a little sarcastic.
I apologize. I know what you meant. Didn't mean it, really. Forgive me?
Excellent post!!!! - sorry I'm a little late saying so.
Just read it. Thanks for the reply.
You're a little late to the party...(sm)
I do believe the dicussion is already over.
Getting late. Change name line to read
see message in above post.
It's gettin' kinda late, but you got me LMAO.
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Only one problem. This happened in late December
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European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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You're a little late worrying about the reporters...
They were found guilty on June 8.
"US President Barack Obama has said he is "deeply concerned" by North Korea's reported sentencing of two US journalists to 12 years' hard labour.
The US was working through all channels to secure their release, a spokesman for Mr Obama said.
The journalists, Euna Lee and Laura Ling, were found guilty of "hostile acts" and illegal entry into North Korea, state media reported."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8089290.stm
Oldtimer, it is used in late-term abortions. To get rid of babies.
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Night
I dont have to defend my education or knowledge of history. I know what I have been taught. This endless attack gets tiring. Time to go do something more constructive than read your attacks to me. Later Gator
I saw the ad too last night.
She definitely told us to vote for Obama. So much for their claims of being a bipartisan group.....sheesh.
They only had from 11 p.m. last night
to 9 a.m. this morning to read it, not 2 weeks. The one that passed the house happened last night, not 2 weeks ago. There are changes in it since yesterday.
I saw this on TV last night as well.
This is definitely scary. When we lose control to raise or own children......what else do they want to take away from us. This is beyond ridiculous.
You people who cry and whine about government staying out of your uterus....well how about stay out of my home and let me raise my kids I decided to have instead of aborting. What about those rights?
And they wonder why people are upset and worried?
I saw this last night.
She was an excellent guest.
Exactly what DH said last night.
He said the country is down the toilet and he doesn't care what they do anymore because none of it helps the working man, just the corrupt government and the millionaires. There will be no middle class, only the poor and the rich, like it was in the 'dark ages.'
I saw last night where they said that
WE (taxpayers) footed the bill for the helicopter ride, secret service motorcade, closing of the streets (yep this costs money), extra police needed in NYC and on top of all of this they believe that we also paid for the dinner and the show. Over 20,000 people with GM losing jobs and our President is going on a date at the taxpayer's expense. I don't care if he is Republican, Democrat, this is just wrong for any politician to pull this kind of crap especially with the things the way that they are.
Just saw a documentary the other night..
about Uday and Qusay, Saddam's sons. It was SICKENING. Iraq was hardly stable unless you call people having their ankles held in stock-like contraptions while sombody beats them for 30 minutes on the bottoms of their feet with a baseball bat, prior to hanging them upside down from a cable from the ceiling and beating them all over with the same bat. If you compare the number of deaths in Iraq to the number of murders and useless violence in America you could say that WE are living in a far worse war zone. I say it was worth a try, and we have to be patient, something Americans are increasingly lost the ability to do in this add water and mix world that we live in.
Every night! You're right.
It's going to be hilarious!
For those of you who miss it, you can see clips at their website.
Thanks. Watched it last night, and
 they have the entire program on there too. Didn't have time to see it all but intend to watch it when I get the time. Thanks again, very kind of you to direct me there.
Good night to you! (sm)
I don't post under a name, because when you do you are crucified by the drive-by bombers. It's best to keep the them confused.
From *The Situation* last night.
And Tucker Carlson is hardly a liberal.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13459509/
But first to a story horrifying even by the coarsening standards of Iraq, the brutal murder and torture of two U.S. soldiers.
Privates first class Kristian Menchaca and Thomas L. Tucker went missing Friday after an attack on a checkpoint they were manning south of Baghdad. Their bodies were found on Monday night. They were reportedly so badly mutilated they were tentatively identified by tattoos and scars. The corpses were also booby-trapped, an apparent effort to kill recovery teams.
Al Qaeda‘s new leader in Iraq has claimed responsibility for the soldier‘s slaughter.
In the face of brutality like this, is Iraq worth the cost in American lives? Here to answer that question, Brad Blakeman. He‘s the former deputy assistant to the president. He joins us tonight from Washington.
Brad, thanks for coming on.
BRAD BLAKEMAN, FORMER DEPUTY ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Tucker.
CARLSON: So we have spent untold billions of dollars, 2,500 American soldiers killed, all in an effort to bring democracy and prosperity to Iraq. In return, they torture and murder and mutilate our soldiers. Remind me why this is a good bargain?
BLAKEMAN: Well, Tucker, look, this is a tough thing, and our hearts go out to every soldier who has made the ultimate sacrifice so that we can live in freedom.
But Iraq is worth fighting for. The region is worth fighting for. It‘s in our interest. These terrible, brutal dictatorships must be brought down when they become a threat to our national security. You know...
CARLSON: OK. But that‘s not the rationale the president has offered. He has said now, because as you know, and not to rehash the whole war, but no weapons of mass destruction were found. And he‘s said now this is worth doing because it‘s worth bringing freedom to the Iraqi people. They yearn for freedom, and it‘s our duty to give them the freedom they yearn for.
My question is how have they earned our sacrifice to bring them that freedom? What about Iraq justifies the death—brutal deaths of American soldiers? Why should we feel like it‘s worth it to bring these people democracy when they behave like animals like this?
BLAKEMAN: We‘re focusing on the animals and not the good and decent people of Iraq. The vast majority of Iraq is peaceful.
CARLSON: Is that right? I don‘t think—I don‘t think there‘s any evidence of that.
BLAKEMAN: There are 12 million people who went to—who went to the polls. They have four successful elections. They have a new government. We tend only to focus on the very bad, on the insurgencies, and the evil people. But the vast majority of Iraqis want to be free.
You know, if we took your attitude...
CARLSON: Is that true? Is that true?
BLAKEMAN: Hold on, Tucker. If we took your attitude, we would have turned back at the beaches of Normandy when all those people...
CARLSON: Spare me the tired, hackney, cliched World War II analogies. Let‘s get to the war in progress, and that‘s Iraq. There are decent people there. I have been there. I‘ve met decent people there. I know firsthand.
However, your claim that most people want peace is bosh as they say.
Let me show you...
BLAKEMAN: It is not.
CARLSON: It certainly is. A poll undertaken by the ministry of defense from Great Britain, part of the coalition, said 65 percent of Iraqi citizens support attacks on U.S. citizens.
Our own polling, done by World Opinion, public opinion, 47 percent approve attacks on U.S. forces, 88 percent of Sunnis, 88 percent approve of attacks on U.S. forces.
These are—are these—these are the people our sons and daughters are dying to make rich and free? How does that work?
BLAKEMAN: It is our responsibility. We brought down this dictator, this evil dictator...
CARLSON: How are we responsible?
BLAKEMAN: ... who used weapons of mass destruction against his own people. Now, it‘s our responsibility to bring democracy to these people. We can‘t cut and run and defeat the dictator and then leave...
CARLSON: Why is it our responsibility? There are countries across the world who live in shackles.
BLAKEMAN: We are the freest nation on earth. That‘s why it‘s our responsibility. We‘re the freest nation on earth. We brought down the dictator, and now it‘s our responsibility...
CARLSON: How does that work? They have not done one thing for us. Look—look, think of the implications of what you are saying. I don‘t know if you have thought this through.
BLAKEMAN: I‘ve thought it through very well.
CARLSON: Nation after nation after nation, starting with Mugabe in Zimbabwe, moving all the way to communist—still communist, still unfree China, people who are living in fetters who are unfree, who are oppressed, is it our, as you put it, obligation as a free a nation to free those nations? Do you really want to play this?
BLAKEMAN: Is it—do you know what our obligation is? It‘s to bring freedom to those people who yearn to be free. And China has come a long way.
CARLSON: So it‘s your obligation to sent your son, my obligation...
(CROSSTALK)
CARLSON: ... people I‘ve never met in countries that hate us? You‘ve got to be kidding. It‘s my obligation to do that?
BLAKEMAN: Yes, it is our obligation. Was it our obligation to go—was it our obligation.
CARLSON: Where does the obligation come from? I didn‘t sign up for that obligation.
BLAKEMAN: It‘s our obligation. Was it our obligation to go—was it our obligation to go into Europe where we weren‘t attacked? No, Europe let a dictator get so strong that collectively they couldn‘t take him down, and we had to come down.
CARLSON: We got in war when we were attacked.
BLAKEMAN: We lost 400,000 Americans in that war. We lost—a million people were wounded in that war.
CARLSON: Right. And there were...
BLAKEMAN: But was it worth it?
CARLSON: Let me just remind you, we entered that war on December 7, 1941, when our soil, the protectorate of Hawaii, was attacked by a foreign nation and thousands of Americans died. We went to war on that day, and not before. OK? So the overall principle you are stating here, that we have a moral obligation to free the unfree, think it through, man. It‘s...
BLAKEMAN: I didn‘t say that, Tucker. I said when we took down the dictator, when we made an obligation to risk our soldiers to free a country, we just can‘t cut and run. We have to establish a government for them. We‘ve got to give them the opportunity to succeed. That‘s our obligation.
CARLSON: And you may be right as far as that goes. But the blanket obligation that Bush implies, and you just stated, that we have to go free the world, to send our sons and daughters to go...
BLAKEMAN: No, we don‘t have to free the world
CARLSON: ... die for other people‘s freedom, people who hate us, it‘s a scary thing.
BLAKEMAN: Well, then you know what? Didn‘t the Japanese hate us?
Didn‘t the Germans hate us? Do they hate us today?
CARLSON: They attacked us first. We had no choice.
BLAKEMAN: They‘re our allies. They our allies, and they stand shoulder to shoulder with us. Should we have waited to get attacked by the Iraqis? No.
CARLSON: You know, I thought—when I supported the war initially, I thought that they were capable of attacking us, and it turns out, as you know, and I‘m sad to report, that we weren‘t.
BLAKEMAN: They were pretty capable of attacking us if they wanted to.
CARLSON: Brad Blakeman, thanks a lot.
BLAKEMAN: You are welcome.
Last night was very encouraging!! sm
I was surprised that the turnout in Iowa was almost double on the Democrat side than the Republican side. Was also excited that Obama won, because I don't like the "given" that Clinton is going to be the nominee "no matter what." Hope the Democrat turnout is that high in New Hampshire!!
I caucused last night
I'm a registered Republican (but I don't consider myself Republican per se) who was the only voter in my precinct who voted Giuliani. There were 79 registered voters there, 43 of whom voted for Huckabee and only 3 for Romney. Then they started talking about the Republican Party planks, and I wound up leaving early. They were starting to get really, erm, snotty.
Anyway, if Huckabilly (as one of the Iowa reporters acidentally called him last night on the news) is the Republican candidate, I will not vote for him. We have a very large homeschooling population in our precinct, and I think that is why so many here are in love with Huckabilly. I will look very hard to your Mr. Obama if he is indeed the Democrat nominee for president.
I don't know if I added anything to your post, but I was happy to see someone actually get so many young people energized about this process.
I sleep very well at night, thank you.
I don't make near $80,000 a year but I pay my bills, insure my children, and they do not go without meals. We don't have the primo cable, we don't have the flat screen TVs, we don't drive the best cars. We don't have the high dollar video games. I have my priorities straight and I DO NOT expect tthe government to take care of my children. That is MY job. I am the parent.
As to disgusted for fund raises when kids get cancer...can you please get real? Even with insurance policies, there are huge bills left over. We all know that. Fund raisers help offset that. There is no policy in existence that pays every expense, I don't care HOW good it is. And there are hospitals all over this country...shriners, St. Jude to name a couple...and the ability to pay has nothing to do with children being treated. But they don't go looking for you; you actually have to go there for help.
Do you even really know what this bill would do or wouldn't do? Have you read it? You never answered my question. You think the government should pay the insurance for a family of 4 making $80K? WHY? You tell me why a family making $80K cannot pay for health insurance and feed their kids? If they can't, what they need is budget counseling, not freebie government insurance. As to payng huge premiums or eating....if a family of 4 making $80,000 has to choose between eating and insurance premiums...again...they need budget counseling. Families up to that level could get on SCHIP BEFORE the expansion. The reality is people did not make the hard decisions, and if they are making $80K a year with two kids and can't insure them, they have made wrong decisions. And..hellooo....unless it is a private hospital, if a child has a life-threatening illness such as cancer...they have to treat them. They cannot turn them away. And they have to accept payments "that the person can afford." We all know that too. You make it sound as if a diabetic child cannot get treatment if the government does not pay for it because his $80K parents can't take care of him. I cannot believe you made a statement like that. What parent, I ask you, making $80K a year could not/WOULD not take care of that diabetic child??? That has NOTHING to do with the government and EVERYTHING to do with the parent. Its called responsibility.
If you would do your homework and look at SCHIP as it is now and see how high up the income ladder it already goes...lower income families were covered then. Expanding it to include illegal aliens and families of 4 making $80K....not necessary.
I have nothing to look away from. If parents making $80K can look away and spend that insurance money on something other than their diabetic child....well, 'nuff said!!
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