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Well, then, don't shoot somebody for stealing your food. LOL

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-10-29
In Reply to: and by the way-- - Kendra

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Food pantries are running out of food, charity

donations are way down.


In this situation, people can't help other people if they can't help themselves.


come on, don't keep stealing

everybody's lines.  If you can't hang with the witty "gals" drop out.


 


It's not really stealing a job
When the union strikes, these people have walked out of their jobs. As I said, I do not agree with scabs, but I cannot really call it "stealing" a job. It is merely filling a vacancy--and they usually lose the job once the union and company come to an agreement.
Shoot. Looks like they let the
Bigotry sure does make you look bogus.
Shoot...

Look at all those girls (young ladies) sending filthy pics all over the place as well.  Of course, I'm talking mainly about the teens, but even the older ones (more the Facebook crowd).  That stuff comes back to bite them in the butt when potential employers scope out FB and myspace...wowza!


Shoot...
From the information I found, a crime such as this committed on the high seas is a federal crime and yes, they can shoot all they want!! Unfortunately, it sounded like the Navy personnel were not on their toes when the captain jumped and therefore the pirates starting shooting warning shots at the captain, so since the Navy wasn't watching when he jumped and wasn't expecting it, they weren't prepared to take out the pirates in the lifeboat.

Maybe they're not taking their eyes off now!!
They can't shoot.

U.S. rules of engagement prevent the Americans using their vastly superior fighting power to engage the pirates if there is any danger to civilians.


Stealing taxes

Actually, I had the same thing happen.  I know you're mad.  So am I.  But you absolutely must remember the core truth -- the reason you had a tax bill that was more than your fair share and more than you could come up with by April 15th in the FIRST place was because democrats are leaning on you to fund the vote-buying giveaways with YOUR labor, YOUR income which they believe to be theirs.  You are supposed to thank democrats for what they LEAVE you with, not grumble that they enforce their sick idea of social justice and obligation on people who actually get up in the morning and go work.  I did the math.  I had some of their constituency who are sucking on the government teat live with me for a homeless few months.  I will never do that again.  We are rapidly approaching a point in this country where half the country is living free off the other half.  This economy will collapse when more than half live off less than half.  Meaning me.  And you.  Remember, that you will never qualify for any government benefits under democrats because you work.  You will however, qualify for their giveaway program, just not as a givee.  At least the Republican plan is to share the burden of common needs (roads, defense) and let people who work hard keep as much as possible.  Don't get me wrong.  I am no lover of that RINO capitulator our party is running.  He's made good press and put forth his false front of courage and honor, but every time he has had a chance to take a stand since he got into politics, he has compromised with the socialists.  Please don't forget -- Socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried and it always will.  Nonconfiscatory capitalism works.  Unfortunately, we don't have that in America anymore.  But we do have socialism.  All socialist economies eventually collapse to third world status unless they are coupled with a political system of tyrrany and fascism.  Please don't vote for the communists.


STEALING is not winning!!!
Blogger responses to the rigging of Ohio's voting system:

 

The law growls a bit but comes up toothless for the common man most of the time--at all levels. Take the Supreme Court (please! as Henny Youngman would say). It was right down there in the gutter, snarling over the bone, which it wrested away in the 2000 election and handed over to George W. Bush. Democrat John Kerry did not attempt to even test this right-leaning court (with its Bush appointees) over the foul voting-day thievery in Ohio that cost him the election in 2004--his resolve no doubt already weakened by the vicious "Swift Boat" slander that had had been slathered over him during the preceding months. Consider, if you will, the eventual condition of our court system all across the country due to the appointment of federal judges at all levels. It's bad enough after 8 years of George Bush. Do we want another 4 or 8 years at the hands of McCain and/or Palin? Start by considering the decisions concerning just the environment--pollution, land-use, etc. They come up on a regular basis. We are fortunate to still have some long-time judges with integrity who date from earlier times. But this, too, could pass. Palin, in addition to being a Creationist, also doesn't believe in Global Warming. McCain, despite his inane campaign remarks, is right there in the hip pocket of big oil, opposes alternate energy sources (check his Senate record) and isn't really much concerned about the melting of the polar ice cap and glaciers everywhere. Not to mention the extinction of species (eventually our own?) and old-growth timber, the conversion of the Pacific ocean into a floating garbage dump that is a bird and fish killer. The country and the planet just can't stand the theft of another election by the Republicans.



Intense public scrutiny?


Intense public scrutiny? Where was that? The only time the msm mentions voter fraud and stolen elections is when the gop starts complaining about nonexistent fraud by (gasp!) immigrants. Obama's chances remain somewhere between slim and none.



Bob and Harvey -- keep


Bob and Harvey -- keep singing it out loud and clear! We can't afford another 2004 and it looks like we are going to get one. The most recent poll results showing McSame and that crazy Moose-woman ahead of Obama-Biden -- despite the fact that Democrats are out-registering Republicans and that Bush and the GOPs have almost destroyed life for the average American -- is absolutely chilling. THEY ARE SETTING US UP FOR THE STEAL and will blame Obama's "loss" on the Bradley effect, disaffected Hillary voters (Palin is a massive kick in the teeth to Hillary and everything she stands for), or who-knows-what. So please keep SINGING IT OUT! No stolen election 2008. We need people in the streets, not people lying down to take it in the A** again!



It is beginning to look more


It is beginning to look more and more like Obama is a ringer just like Kerry was, who will roll over on command when his controllers in the GOP tell him to. The repeat of previous machinations in Ohio regarding the election there is simply the foundation that will be used to make the roll-over look semi-plausible. We need international observers to watch over our election process, just like we insist on for elections in many third-world countries. And we need to institute the death penalty for those who abuse their positions while in public office.



Kind of disappointing that


Kind of disappointing that there aren't more posts here, but I think most people would rather yell about their candidate than face the possibility that the entire political circus is, or will be, an absolute waste of time. I'm going to write my representatives, AGAIN. Won't you all join me?



I agree. Send money to Cindy


I agree. Send money to Cindy Sheehan and Dennis Kucinich!!! There is a million dollar GOP campaign against him. No matter what...kicking Pelosi out would send a message.



Impeachment? now we're


Impeachment? now we're talking. While we're on that subject, OBAMA is AGAINST impeachment!!! Still want to vote for him? Still think the Dems are humanitarians? They are cowards who can't call a liar a "liar"!!!



IMPEACH BUSH my bumper


IMPEACH BUSH my bumper sticker has read for two years



Republicans are crooks.


Republicans are crooks. They have always been crooks.



I second that statement, If


I second that statement, If Nancy Pelosi doesn't allow Kucinich articles to be brought forward and start the procedure then she needs to lose her return to congress in November. We need Cindy Sheehan to beat her anyway. If McCain wins this election, I'm going to leave this country I was born in and lived for 74 years. It isn't worth living here anymore if Republicans stay in the white house. I won't live in this Police state anymore,as my Civil liberties have already been slowly taken away. Next they will come for me for posting on the internet. I don't want people that have no conscience or compassion for human life to be running this country.



Bush/Cheney are not legal


Bush/Cheney are not legal officers of the United States Government because of fraudulent voting procedures in Ohio. They must be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY. Nothing must take priority over the IMPEACHMENT process if our country is to remain a democracy.

Oh shoot. Answer above. Sorry again! nm
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Me too, GP......my dad taught me to shoot...
when the rifle recoil would still knock me on my little rear. I learned real quick to spread stance...lol. I was not and still am not a hunter...though my best friend is. To each his/her own...my brother and dad hunted. I can, however, defend myself and my property. And will...unless your guy is elected. I look for them to want to change gun laws. I know what he SAYS about it...I just don't believe him. :)
You, like most of the country, believe stealing from
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it's not stealing - it's legal!
They are not married so they qualify for the earned income credit on their taxes even though they pay nothing in. It is based on how many children you have and your income.

It's been there forever! My sister gets upwards of $6000 a year every year and has for as long as I can remember; of course, when the children hit 17 or 18, that is gone, but for now it is like an extra $500 or $600 a month in income if you spread it out.

That's why I cannot figure out why these people are so upset about Obama giving money to poor people - heck, it's been going on for as long as I can remember... it's nothing new that Obama just came up with and decided to do.
So don't shoot the messenger.
Of course, disease is a choice and I know many doctors who believe the same way. We can prevent diabetes, heart disease, cancer and many other diseases simply by making changes in our diet and lifestyle. We may not realize the choices we made contributed to it, but nonetheless, we can be healthy if we work at it. Unborn babies have to rely on their mothers to stay healthy. None of us really know the damage we may do to our unborn by ingesting things we "consider to be healthy. I'll let you make your own deductions of what that may be instead of inciting you to anger, based on what this country perceives as "health food." I don't really care for the way you present yourself either but I wouldn't make a judgement call based on the way you do it. My baby sister died from CF in 1959. It is a lung disease. Now that I know much more than I did back then, I realize what may have caused her death and yes, my mother (bless her heart) unknowingly could have probably prevented it. There is more info now but most people simply refuse to believe it can be as simple as it seems. I do believe it.
Is shoot the messenger the new mantra here.
You have no idea what my politics are.  Do you know who Richard Cohen is?  He is a very far left liberal columnist and he thought it was over the line.  See, this is why no one, from anywhere, can have a discussion with people on this board.  If someone doesn't agree with you, they are a *neocon* whatever the heck that is.  I find that mindset disturbing.  You are not worth arguing with.  All you can do is label.  Pathetic.
Oh well, shoot, I forgot....Obama already said...
we should be calling Europe and talking to them about it. So why doesn't he call? Do SOMETHING other than campaign until this is over. I would have thought a lot more of him if he had joined in this. What would it have hurt to put off the debate for a couple of days? Seriously. Can't you get your head around that? Geez!
Shoot - Let me know if you want image that bigger (NM)

"Wealth distribution" LOL. Its really STEALING
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Whoa - hold on - Don't shoot the messenger
As that saying goes "Don't shoot the messenger". I was just passing on an article I thought was interesting. I have no idea if it was from a conservative or liberal view point. If I find another article that goes opposite will be happy to pass that on too. I'm for neither and probably won't even vote this fall because I don't want to have the responsibility if the "bad one" is picked that I would have contributed. Just thought this point of view was interesting.
That is awesome. No more stealing our election! Gobama!
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Guess most of the country is cool with stealing
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Uhh, no! Stealing from wealthy to give to people
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Cindy isn't interested in helping the victims down there. She's just mad they are stealing
her thunder.  Hopefully, she will be relegated to the pathetic pawn that she is and real news of real importance will come back to the world.  Every time she speaks, she puts our troops in danger.  The troops even said so, but she is too far gone to listen to the troops. They are all brainwashed.
Stealing and reselling...and only got a slap on the wrist...sounds about right...nm

Shoot..left out the best part...subpeona specified 30 days! LOL. (nm)
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She adopted a child while stealing drugs for her addiction.
If she was poor the state would have seized her kids. It's not the rich and special treatment that is so upsetting. It's the fact he is the one making these rules while his wife is an addict.

That's like saying because I LOVE Ray Charles' music, I must shoot up heroin, as he did???....
Do you guys really believe your own rhetoric in these postings, or is this just delusional, absurd thinking by otherwise intelligent people because Obama won, George is gone hallelujah, and McCain/Palin lost??? Don't get me wrong, I am sick of BOTH parties most of the time, like lying, spoiled children, I would love to see a truly Independent party take hold with a REAL candidate, but when you have to pick on Obama's musical tastes in order to make a point, that is showing DESPERATION.
Food for thought

 


If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.
St. Francis of Assisi


He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his dealings wtih animals.


Immanuel Kant








 


 


More food for thought. Another

WASHINGTON, Sept. 28 — Democrats and their allies mapped out a strategy on Friday that they hoped would enable them to override President Bush’s expected veto of a bipartisan bill providing health insurance for 10 million children, most of them in low-income families.


Democratic leaders said they would highlight the contrast between the president’s request for large sums of money for the Iraq war and his opposition to smaller sums for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, known as Schip.


Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, said, “It’s ironic that in the very same week that the president says he’s going to veto the bill because we can’t afford it, he is asking, what, for $45 billion more over and above his initial request for the war in Iraq, money that we know is being spent without accountability, without a plan for how we can leave Iraq.”


Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, said, “This is all a matter of priorities: the cost of Iraq, $333 million a day; the cost of Schip, $19 million a day.”


The campaign for the legislation will also include grass-roots advocacy and political advertisements, and will initially focus on about 15 House Republicans who voted against the bill. Supporters of the legislation hope to persuade them to switch.


But House Republican leaders said they felt sure they could sustain the veto, and two lawmakers on the Democrats’ list said that they would support Mr. Bush.


The bill passed this week by the House and the Senate would provide $60 billion for the program over the next five years, up $35 billion from the current level of spending. On Wednesday, the administration said it would seek $42 billion more for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, bringing its total request to nearly $190 billion for the 2008 fiscal year, which begins Monday.


In an interview on Friday, the House Republican whip, Roy Blunt of Missouri, said there was “a 100 percent probability” that the House would sustain the president’s veto.


But, Mr. Blunt said, the coincidental timing of the vote on the child health bill and the request for money in Iraq “was not helpful.”


The White House, on the defensive, is trying to bolster Republicans who fear they might be penalized by voters if they side with the president.


Dana Perino, the White House press secretary, said Friday, “It is preposterous for people to suggest that the president of the United States doesn’t care about children, that he wants children to suffer.”


Ms. Perino said the president had a policy difference with Democrats in Congress because he did not want “additional government-run health care, socialized-type medicine.”


Senator Charles E. Grassley, an Iowa Republican who helped write the bill, said he would reach out to House Republicans and urge them to override the veto.


“This bill is not socialized medicine,” Mr. Grassley said. “Screaming ‘socialized medicine’ is like shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. It is intended to cause hysteria that diverts people from reading the bill, looking at the facts.”


The battle will be fought in the House, where the child health bill was approved on Tuesday by a vote of 265 to 159 — well short of the two-thirds majority that would be needed to override a veto.


Ms. Pelosi called Mr. Bush on Friday and said she was praying he would sign the bill.


But Mr. Blunt said: “I bet she’s praying for him not to sign it. The bill is all about politics. It’s pretty good politics for the Democrats.”


Still, Democrats face an uphill fight to persuade Republicans to change their votes. Supporters would need 289 yes votes to enact the bill over the president’s objections if all the members were voting.


The House now has 433 members and two vacant seats.


One of the Republicans singled out for special attention by Democrats was Representative Judy Biggert, from a suburban Chicago district. She was one of 16 Republicans who signed a letter to the speaker last week, urging her to take up the Senate version of the child health bill.


The compromise closely followed the Senate version, but Mrs. Biggert voted against it, saying, “It would push Americans one step closer to socialized medicine.”


In an interview on Friday, Mrs. Biggert said she would vote to sustain the veto.


Democrats said they would also focus their efforts on Republicans like Representatives Timothy V. Johnson of Illinois, John R. Kuhl Jr. of New York, Thaddeus McCotter of Michigan and H. James Saxton of New Jersey.


Mr. McCotter said he was a big supporter of the child health program, but would vote to uphold the president’s veto, even if critics ran television advertisements against him.


Under the bill, the federal excise tax on cigarettes would be increased to $1 a pack, from the current 39 cents.


“I vowed never to raise taxes on anybody, no matter how disliked they might be,” Mr. McCotter said in an interview. He said he would rather be voted out of office than go back on his promises to constituents.


Republican senators who worked on the compromise bill, like Mr. Grassley and Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, said they had tried in vain to persuade White House officials to join the negotiations.


Ms. Perino, the White House spokeswoman, said that after vetoing the bill, Mr. Bush would like to “sit down and come to a compromise” with Congress.


The Senate Democratic leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, said the president should not hold his breath waiting for such a deal. Democrats, he said, have already made many concessions to keep the support of Senate Republicans.


Whatt?? ( don't know where that dog food ad
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Some food for thought.

A lot of times a "no" vote comes from some hidden provision that doesn't jive with the candidates' personal policies, i.e. it might not be that they disagree with the issue, but instead that they disagree with the strategy proposed to tackle it.


or use them to protect the food I have.
just a thought.
We don't buy dog food anymore....
and that saves a lot of money.
A day's wages for a day's food.......... sm
Ring any bells?
Healthy food...........sm
does not necessarily mean prime cuts of meat and exotic fruits and vegetables. Like the other poster mentioned, meats can be bought on sale and frozen for up to 6 months. Fruits and veggies can be also. Food dehydrators are also good to use for fruit bought in season. Just dehydrate it and then it can be used during the off season. Dried apples and apricots, for example, can be quite expensive in the stores, but dehydrate a sack of apples and you will have enough apples to last for a while to make pies or just to eat out of hand. A bag of apples at $3.99 is a lot more filling and goes further than a bag of chips at $3.99.
It should be for healthy food........... sm
because the same folks that load up their shopping carts with chips and soda and junk food on food stamps will be the same ones we have to provide medical care through Medicaid for because they have clogged arteries and poor digestive tracks and diabetes.

If I want to take my hard earned money and buy a bunch of junk and clog my arteries, the insurance that I pay for will (somewhat) take care of me. That is my choice and my business. As long as my tax dollars are going to feed others and take care of their health damaged by eating junk, I feel the government has every right to dictate what they eat.
Just some food for thought.
President Barack Obama said in Turkey : "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/god-constitutions.htm


I'm not sure if this website has any politicial affiliation (I couldn't find one), but I checked several of the states constitutions out and they were spot on.  Now, I'm not a Bible thumper (or even attend church regularly), but I thought this was interesting considering Obama's speech.  


Please note that at no time in any of these constitutions is anyone told that they MUST worship God.


 


Bet there was enough food to feed quite a few
This crowd in Washington (and I mean BOTH the Washington politicos and the Washington press) just don't get it, do they? For someone who was supposed to be so "politically savvy", BO has shown repeatedly that he has a political tin ear.
Apparently food is not the only thing she
She has no class whatsoever...maybe she is the love child of Pat Robertson and some cheap hooker?

Check this out: http://www.bettybowers.com/coulter.html#Anchor-Thi-12323

A little over the top but funny.
food for thought...go to this site:
compares the campaign planes.

http://bellalu0.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/obama-campaign-plane-vs-mccain-campaign-plane/

Cut and paste into your browser. This would suggest that perhaps Mr. Obama does have a problem with the American flag. It does to me.
Obama and Iraqi oil for food...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_iraqi_oil_for_food_conn.html
More like food for the garbage disposal.
smoldering racists that mobilize race baiting hoaxters and cyberspace KKK assassination plots are intimidation of the most dangerous and destructive kind. Biden's bystep of a health reporter married to a republican campaign strategiest whose questions have nothing to do with health, rather spew a laundry list of pub smear campaign tactics, designed to intimidate, is entirely appropriate. The cancellation of future interviews with tribal cultural warriors who would flame the fires of division is the only responsible action to take. Why pump wind into those hot air balloons?

Background checks of pub plant shams aimed as exposing desperate disingenous pub camp stunts should have been antcipated....but McC camp is not real big on careful vetting protocols. Your fringe blog puke about threats to O's detractors fall into the category of Biden's bystep. Will not dignify this divisive drum beat with further comment.
More food for thought on coal

I just watched the video where he stated he was going to put such high caps and make the coal industries pay mucho dollars and hopefully bankrupt the coal industry. BUT, he also stated he would use dollars they must pay if they want to use coal, for clean energy policies like wind power, etc.


 So, that said, how does he intend to pay for all his other energy technology if he bankrupts the coal industry and businesses that use coal? After all, if he bankrupts the businesses that use coal which, by the way, is most electric power plants, whose pocket will he be dipping into for the money for his clean energy policies???


Talking out of both sides of his mouth again.


Food stamps will HELP the economy?
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Well don't really call chips and pop food. sm
I agree there needs to be stricter rules with regards what can be bought with foodstamps.  On the other hand, as I stated, these people don't want to work, will not work. They'll take it from you one way or another, either through government programs or at the point of a gun.
Can buy soda with food stamps

I just asked my son's girlfriend who works at a grocery store if you can buy soda with food stamps and she said yes-no wine or beer, no toilet paper, shampoo or other nonedible things and no cigarettes, but soda and candy, chips, yes.


Don't agree at all-healthy food more exp
I don't agree with you at all that healthy food is less expensive. I live in Western NY and in the winter when the public market has less of a variety of fresh fruits and vegetables and I have to buy them at the store them and meat take almost all my budget; plus, milk and juice. Junk food is much cheaper and prepackaged food.
Don't buy prepackaged food. Aren't you

able to have a garden? Don't you have a produce market? Can or freeze veggies and fruits in season. Buy meats in bulk and freeze. Our markets allow food stamps. Stock up on a sale and freeze. Most meats last 6 months frozen.


DH has relatives in western NY and they always had plenty because they did the above. There was no junk food bought with food stamps. In fact, they never even applied for food stamps even though they would probably qualified for them. They took nothing free from the government. There was no junk food in their home, either except on a "special occasion."


Food stamp fraud

Please don't think I am accusing everyone who gets public assistance of this.  Many people who get the assistance really need it, and I have a friend who is an example. 


But there is also a subculture involved here.  People can qualify for food stamps who have undocumented income, under-the-table earnings, and even money from criminal activity.  They don't actually need the food stamps to eat, but they get them. 


Back when food stamps were actual coupons, there used to be a thriving black market in buying and selling food stamps for a percentage of their cash value.  Then the money could be used for tobacco, alcohol, drugs and other things.  Maybe the new debit card system put a stop to this, maybe not.  The money goes into your account every month.  All it would take is lending your card and sharing your PIN number with someone.  My friend has never been asked for ID.


And if the object of this assistance is to feed (and I think by that we mean nourish) people, is it right for parents to stuff their kids full of twinkies, chips and Pepsi with the food stamp money?  What the kids need is nourishment, not junk.  What we end up with is another poorly nourished, hyperactive generation that cannot  concentrate and learn in school, then cannot hold down an adequate job, and the cycle repeats itself. 


In the county where I live, if you are on public health assistance and get pregnant you have to comply with a whole host of requirements.  Parenting classes, classes on prenatal nutrition, classes on how to take care of an infant, regular checkups, drug tests, classes on contraception, etc.  You should consider this a job.  We are paying you to have a healthy baby, and these are your duties.  Women scream about this being degrading, and an invasion of their privacy. 


But honestly, if you accept the assistance, why would you assume there should be no strings?  Why would you assume you don't have to jump through some hoops to get it?  Do you expect to be left alone until the day of delivery, get a free stay in the hospital, and go your merry way?  Can't we assume that since this is your second illegetimate pregnancy, you don't really know what's causing it?  Or you forgot and need to repeat the class?


These types of assistance are supposed to be an investment society makes in improving the situation.  Used properly, they can be.  But often they are considered just another entitlement.  *Just gimme the money and get outta my face.*


Food addiction. Willpower.
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How many bottles of water and food packets
did Bush bring down with him on his massive Air Force One?  From what I could see, the man only handed out food that was already there.  What a guy!