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Would be good if you addressed the person you are referring to

Posted By: I just gotta be me on 2009-02-27
In Reply to: You mean like the posts about...(sm) - Just the big bad

Since I didn't post those you are addressing the wrong person. I did read those posts but I didn't post them. I can take anything back that I dish out, but I don't take kindly to people bashing me for posts I didn't post.


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From all your posts I can tell you are a really good person sm
I am going to look for proof to give you, because I really do believe it is true that he associates with terrorists. Yes, they are both liars and we don't have a good choice, but I really believe Obama means to do our country harm. Did you read Sam's last post above?
Let's start with Valerie...sounds like a good person to me...

Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, where her father, Dr. James Bowman, ran a hospital for poor children as part of a program that sent American doctors and agricultural experts to developing countries to help jump-start their health and farming efforts. At age 5, the family moved to London for one year, then returned to Chicago in 1963. Her father, who is of African American descent is a pathologist and geneticist. He is currently Professor Emeritus in Pathology and Medicine, University of Chicago.[2][3] Her great-grandfather was the first African-American to graduate from M.I.T., her grandfather was Robert Taylor the first black man to head the Chicago Housing Authority, and her father Dr. James Bowman was the first black resident at St. Luke’s Hospital. Though Ms. Jarrett has never worked in Washington, her great-uncle is Democratic powerbroker Vernon Jordan. [4] Her mother, Barbara Bowman, is an early childhood education expert and co-founder of the Erikson Institute for child development.[4][5]


She graduated from Northfield Mount Hermon, a New England boarding school, in 1974. She also received a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a JD from the Michigan Law School" href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan_Law_School>University of Michigan Law School in 1981.



[edit] Career



[edit] Chicago politics


Jarrett got her start in Chicago politics in 1987 working for mayor Harold Washington[6] as Deputy Corporation Counsel for Finance and Development.[7]


Jarrett continued to work in the mayor's office in the 1990s. She was Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time (1991) she hired Michelle Robinson, then engaged to Barack Obama, away from a private law firm. Jarrett served as Commissioner of the Department of Planning and Development from 1992 through 1995; and was Chair of the Chicago Transit Board from 1995 to 2005.[7]



[edit] Business career


She is currently the CEO of The Habitat Company, a real estate development and management company, which she joined in 1995. She was a Member of the Board of Chicago Stock Exchange (2000-2007, as Chairman, 2004-2007).


She is also the Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago Medical Center,[7] Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago and a Trustee of Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry.[8][9] Ms. Jarrett serves on the board of directors of USG corporation, a Chicago based building materials corporation.


McCain did state to everyone that Obama is a good person and not someone to be feared (sm)
Maybe he didn't mention race specifically because he did not want to further add to this being a race-based election? At least he stood up and said something to defend Obama in that respect. But if people were saying McCain was the Messiah, we would expect him to be man enough to stand up and say that he is not. That is the point here.
Good grief! You're a rude, bitter person.
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Thanks. Maybe it will be addressed again....
we'll see. Have a good day!
This post was addressed to LIBERALS.

I want to hear what the man has to say, and I don't care what you think or have to say regarding the subject because your posts on this board and the other board prove you are a Bush apologist and are not an objective person.  As such, your repeated intrusion on this board doesn't surprise me in the least.


he addressed that issue in a recent

interview.  There is much more to the story that the article does not include.  Biden's explanation seemed reasonable when I heard it.  You can, of course, disagree with me on that point.


 


I understand that....but where do you come down on the issues I addressed...
as you are an Obama supporter.
Sarah Palin said it. We already addressed this.
That is not socialism. Key words..."Alaskans." Not just poor Alaskans. Not just middle class Alaskans. ALL Alaskans. Not predicated on how much money you make or don't make. Completely fair. She could have funneled all that money into the government to be doled out to whoever she saw fit (like Obama wants to do). Instead, she said EVERY Alaskan gets a piece of the pie. That is so FAR removed from socialism it ain't funny.
It was a rhetorical statement, which I addressed
under the post below (I accused nobody of anything). There is no need to repeat any of that here. I'm not the one hung up on the number, but all you guys stepping up to defend W sure do seem to be. It's not a wise crack and its not about the number. It's the stupidity. The 22% W defense league can discuss the pros and cons of IQ numbers to their hearts' content. It's not my issue. I'm talking about stupid is as stupid does.

I don't think there is anything cute or funny about a president that displays the kind of ignorance found in the other Bushism posts. I will say this much, though. This utter contempt for Bush is nothing new. It's been there and going on off the radar screen for the entire duration of these unbearable 8 years. The difference now is that it started to get air play in mainstream media when the election season kicked off. It's been around on the progressive airways since day one and will not be going away anytime soon, even long after he leaves office. Why? Because there is SO MUCH THERE. Keep your blinders on, no problem, but get ready for a bumpy ride. This guy has a lot to answer for before it's said and done.

You have no idea the excitement and pure joy many Americans are experiencing at the mere idea that we will be Bushless in just another 2 shor weeks. It's not about Obama. It's about Bush. There is much cause for celebration, regardless of who is up next.
That's the second time you addressed something I didn't post. sm
I thought the Chickenhawk article was brilliant though.  I wish I had posted it.
Obama himself addressed the Ayer's issue if you...

watched the debates.  Put the Ayer's issue to rest.


yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.

I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
Whoops....A person....not I person.
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Not what I was referring to...

Anyway, I'm beginning to be sorry I mentioned this.  The whole point was that a poster said TWICE that it was easy enough for her to check ISPs to find out who was using multiple monikers in order to find out what was posting as whom, etc.  I was just questioning that comment, that's all.


As far as the hacking on the protestwarrior.com website, that is a separate issue from what I was referring to.  Someone revealed some folks' personal information on the forum.  I wasn't blaming the owners of the website for that.....


Time for me to give this a rest.


LOL! I was referring to

Bush's invasion of Iraq to *spread freedom* (#2 reason after the failed WMD excuse).  I'd consider it kind of a *gander invasion* (as in what's good for...).  Could you imagine an America where, regardless of wealth, everyone received medical care, nobody starved, everyone had adequate housing?  An America that didn't throw its poor to the wolves (or the *waves* of a hurricane, as pointed out below in the areas that Bush included in his Louisiana plan)?  An American government that allowed personal freedoms, didn't force one set of religious beliefs down your throat via politics, didn't try to control your personal life/death issues, didn't condemn you to unequal rights and eternal damnation because you love the *wrong* person?


I wouldn't object to living in that kind of America. 


Actually, I was referring to

money/evil as it regards George W. Bush, et al.


The UAE has a very unstable history of *loyalty* to the United States, and I believe allowing this deal to go through is very risky business and completely contrary to the man who said *If you're not with us, you're against us,*  who, to me, is now completely against us and in favor of big money.  The 9/11 Commission is totally against this deal.  But anything to defend Dubya, right?


Let me guess...you *accidentally* posted on the liberal board again, right? 


I was actually not referring to you.
 You are not  the message-syntax-style-similar person.
I was not referring to these 2

individuals exclusively. I said there are those who are able to see a problem from all sides. These are the people who will lead us to peace if we can ever achieve it. As far as liars et al, PULEEZE, take a look at our current Congress, take a look at many of our **ministries.**  Take a look at our leaders of industry. Take a look at our professional sports and news people and newspapers.


My point was that one can actually have a viewpoint that is diametrically opposed to yours and still love America, love democracy and disapprove of this administration AND say so out loud. I admire people who can put their personal feelings aside and see incendiary events objectively. I am not able to do that but there are those that can. My post was not a defense of anyone in particular.


I was referring to myself...

the things I have gotten mostly on the C board but some here. I did not say you said any of those things. I just know they have been said to me. I am not championing anyone. I wanted to let Teddy know that she has a place here as does everyone (except if you denigrate W) and some pretty nasty things have been said on both sides. I did not want her to leave because she was, it appeared, standing alone yesterday. The more people are here the better it is.


I don't think that anyone probably deserves some of the rhetoric that appears here and I am amazed at the viciousness sometimes...both sides...but we are representative of a larger picture and that is a good thing.


My apologies, I was not referring to you in any way. I was telling Teddy that I knew how she must feel. It's tough to go it alone sometimes or be the only one on your side (or so it seems). I have been there where I am the only left voice and besides being difficult, it gets really confusing about answering what to who about what. That is all.


This is what I was referring to...
I should probably refrain from any dialogue and perhaps just correct posts that are obviously erroneous (like the one about poverty in the U.S.). Correcting factual errors on their posts would probably be a full time job. Besides I enjoy the research and learn lots!!


Don't know what you are referring to. nm
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I am referring to....
The missionary story told in the "Wow. This is impressive. I agree." post, the point being that there are a multitude of Christian viewpoints, especially when it comes to interpreting the Bible (or any other holy book, for that matter) and reconciling more secular political beliefs.
To whom are you referring?
First, I would like to know exactly to whom you are referring. Second, I would like to know who gave you the power to tell people to go elsewhere? If you are offended by a post or posts, you certainly are free to go elsewhere yourself, but I do not believe you have the right to tell others what to do!
Perhaps she's referring to
A fictional character, John McClane of Die Hard fame. We know she's out of touch with reality.

But why are you referring to....sm
republicans as being rabid tonight? I imagine that term could be used both ways for both parties, but why are you so vehement tonight about only Republicans? Did something happen?



(at least in the posts that I have read...might have missed some, as I don't go back when I've missed a day or so of posts....)


You're usually very level headed, although as you said above on a different post, it sounds like you go right and left on different issues.


And I keep meaning to ask you how your gourd painting is coming along, now that Halloween and fall are upon us. I hope you're having fun with that, as I saw you post on a different board a while back about your hobby....

I was referring to the very same NWO...
...that is the goal of the PNAC that everyone was afraid Bush would cause. 
That's what I was referring too....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450445,00.html

The Atheist organizations ran "Why believe in a god" ads in D.C.

I mean if we as Christians can't run ads in secular areas, why should atheists?

By the way, Atheism is becoming a lot like it's own religion nowadays....
That's right - I was referring to him
and should have credited Bubba's name to the quote. Everyone should remember though, Mr. O is not the first black President we've had, according to many Bubba was.
First of all, I was referring to the GOP going . . . .
down the toilet, NOT Fox News.  Secondly, the only reason Fox has the highest ratings on non-cable networks is because all the intellligent people are gleaning their information from the more intelligent cable networks.  I reckon those people in the boonies can't get those fancy cable stations, and so they are forced to pick between the big 3, and besides, Lamebaugh, Beck, et al, are more to their likin', since birds of a feather (or smaller brains) stick together.  So, you all can keep harping on Fox's ratings -- I don't give a rat's behind because I am not impressed (and I am not brainwashed), and I actually have a mind of my own.  I think it is disgraceful that they are even allowed to call themselves a news network -- more like hate-inciting network.
If you are referring to me....
I haven't posted anything since January.  So I think you may have me confused with someone else.  I really just lurk and laugh.  Thanks though!
I think I see now what you're referring to about my post.

I don't find one thing funny about it. I'm outraged about it because blaming anyone BUT the priests is giving a green flag for that behavior to continue.


And I totally agree with you that it's gone on too long, with the church's apparent blessing.  They know what these priests are doing, and they just transfer them to another parish so they can continue with a new set of children.


As far as the "headline" comment about my post, see what you mean about it coming up as a "headline" when you log onto this site.  I didn't realize it was going to come up that way.


Please rest assured that I'm outraged by all this.  Our children in this country are molested and killed every day in what seems to be an epidemic, and nobody is doing anything about it.


OK. But, I wasn't referring to this. That's all I'm trying to say. nm
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Wasn't referring to you....nm

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The 'jokes' I was referring to
were in your previous post. I guess I'm breaking your mold because, while I've never heard AL Franken, I'd break his nose too because what he said in the quote you just provided is hateful. I do not defend one side and slam the other.
Sounds like you are referring to a

certain group of people.  Correct me if I have misunderstood.  Who are you talking about?  The vast majority of conservatives who believe the Bible is divinely inspired support the Constitution and don't want it meddled with.  Your observation truly has me confused. 


I know...I was referring to my typo (nm)
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I still have no idea to whom you are referring!
Why don't you give specific examples, so I can understand what you are talking about? I am not psychic and truly don't know who you are targeting here. Everyone on the board has the ability to post under whatever name they choose. For example, Sam admitted to posting under the name Indy Observer yesterday. No one knew it was her until she revealed it in one of her posts. Do you have special powers that allow you to know who is posting under various names?
I was referring to the war in Iraq being
a waste. The man who was behind our 09/11 massacre is still at large. We should have put more time, resources in money going after him. Not going after Iraq, but then they had all that great oil. Again, Afghanistan is one thing, Iraq another. Bush and his admin. mislead and lied to everybody saying that Iraq had anything to do with 09/11. So, now we have pumped billions of dollars into an Iraq war when it should have put into getting the man/people would attacked us. So yes, the fact that it is Afghanistan does make the difference IMO.

I shudder to think of all the things the Republicans have done in the 6 years that they had majority that we don't even know about yet. It does not excuse this current fiasco though and as I stated earlier, no I do not overlook what hand the Dems had it in either.
Who are you referring to by "they" ?
I am also a Christian and don't condone any of it either and I think most people probably do not. "they" fear Muslims because all they know of Muslims is the small portion of them who are terrorists. They don't realize it is a peaceful religion. All of these things that were done in the name of religion over centuries were done by radicals one way or the other looking for an excuse. No one's God, not the God we Christians believe in, not the God Muslims believe in, condones killing and hatred. That is something we humans have done all by ourselves.
Which lies are you referring to
Would you please be specific. I understand you are not defending either candidate, but you came on and pretty much said that whatever we wrote were lies, so I would like to know which "lies" are you referring to. I'm sure you're probably referring to the people who wrote about their concerns and posted articles that were against Obama.

I came on this board to read people's "opinions", why someone liked or disliked a candidate and for what reason. Also a lot of excellent links and articles were posted. Some written by lawyers, journalists, etc. People with degrees and who have been studying the economy, foreign affairs, laws, and presidential races for 20 years or more. Are those people lying? They've done their research, and for many of us we posted links to those sources for people to read themselves and make their own determinations as to whether they belive it or not.

What I saw constantly was if it went against Obama people said it was a lie. We posted articles and were told the source is not credible. Then when we posted some from CNN or MSNBC nothing was said. So people gave no reason as to why they were not credible except for the simple fact that it did not praise Obama. They chose to ignore the truth instead.

So as for people "making things up". It all depended on if you were for or against Obama. I never heard one Obama supporter question any of the stuff Obama was saying or doing or his shady background and questionable associations. But the McCain supporters did question him. We did say time and time again we weren't really happy with the republicans choice, but the other was worse.

P.S. - The stuff we post... we do back up with a credible source.

So please tell me which lies you are referring to so we can answer you with credible sources.
This is referring to an off shore rig..... sm
when it talks about taking 20 years to bring one to production. People need to understand that this is from the seismographic investigations until the first drop of crude comes from below the ocean floor.

I am talking about land rigs, and I believe I stated this in my post. I live in an oil and gas rich region of our country and have a very good friend who is a consultant for one of the major drilling companies in the region. When I asked him how long it takes to bring a rig to production, his answer was that it used to take upwards of 6 weeks to 2 months but that they now have the technology to bring one in within 14 days from rig up to rig down. The higher ups in the business push for a figure closer to 10 days. I have watched the oil drilling activity in my area, and I mean physically watched it and not just reading about it in the newspaper, for the last 3 years and have literally counted the days from rig up to rig down several times and it generally does come in at around 10 to 14 days.

I also looked at the front page for your source. Did you? It has Obama written all over it, so any "facts" that are posted there are going to be slanted in his favor to advance his legislation and party. Even the first sentence is an outdated statement. Gas prices have plummetted in the past couple of weeks. It is currently down to below $2 in several towns in my area. My mother's royalty check this month was only 25% of what it had been in previous months.

So, I believe I know my facts pretty well and I don't need Obama's website decrying what Bush did or did not do to substantiate them.
Noooooooooo! I was referring to

when Bush declares martial law.


I wasn't talking about Obama.


If anyone is the antichrist, it's Bush, in my opinion. 


which post are you referring to
specifically?  Which one of my posts were lies? 
Not referring to you but to Keisha
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What lies are you referring to?
The ones coming out of the conspiracy theorists and witch hunts?
Referring to your quote above, would
sentiments if a conservative was being sworn into office on 1/20/09? Is this how you felt on 11/3/08?

**From where I stand (the left...ok, far left),....I would say that most Americans realize the power that comes with being united and would not be willing to give that up, regardless of which side of the aisle you're on.**

If you are referring to Obama.....sm
who refuses to release his IQ...it may well be in the triple digits, but so is President Bush.


I could care less what you think of Bush, so don't go there. He's made mistakes, most can agree on, so I won't debate any of those with you.



But high IQ does not equate to wisdom, and only time will tell if Obama, in his administration, will have any....wisdom that is.


He obviously hasn't had much wisdom wth respect to his past life, so hopefully his future will be different. I doubt it though.
I am referring to several of her posts, not just this one.
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I am very aware of what she was referring to.
I am asking for facts/incidences that directly relate to the type of "personality" that proves this poster's observations on Mrs. Obama's character. What exactly has she done to draw this meaness from someone?
I think this is what the poster is referring too...

This is from Robert Reich, economic advisor to Obama, giving his opinion on the stimulus package and the creation of new jobs....


I am concerned, as I’m sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high-skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers. … I have nothing against white male construction workers. I’m just saying that there are a lot of other people who have needs as well. … Criteria can be set so that the money does go to others, the long term unemployed minorities, women, people who are not necessarily construction workers or high-skilled professionals