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Yeah, and little motivation left to work hard or earn

Posted By: a lot of money. Why would you try? nm on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: Yep, we will soon be prisoners of our own govt. - That is so scary, but reality, WAKE UP!.nm

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Work less, earn less.....
Well, that is called socialism to the core. Those that make less think they have a right to those that make more, but do they ever think WHY someone else makes more? Maybe a higher education, many many many longer hours and a MUCH harder job?

My husband has worked his butt off for 30+ years and made a good salary for it. But there are sacrifices made along the way. So he should be penalized because he worked his way through college, struggled the entire time, worked his way up in a company and has paid his dues? No, I don't think so.

If you want more money, get a higher education and go work for it just like he did.
I work hard and get no help from anybody.
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I'm not willing to sacrifice all the hard work

my husband and I put in over the years to get where we are (finally living half decently) just to give it to people who don't deserve it. Those who deserve help, hey, I'm willing to help, but those who don't contribute, they can go down the tubes for all I care.


Bash all you want, but that's how I feel, and I know there are plenty of Americans who also feel this way.


Our hard work shouldn't go to support those
who want nothing but a handout. As I stated before, I have no problem paying taxes, I just don't want to hand it over to the likes of those who won't help themselves, live in debt because of foolish choices, don't have a clue how to save money and then cry and whine when their choices bite them in the behind. These are some of the same people who get thousands back from the IRS each year and instead of saving it, blow it all on some material item they think they deserve, all the while forgetting the fact that the money they get back every year is their own, they had too much taken out of their paycheck each week, while the gov't was making the interest off of it. I'm sure you'll come back with some snappy reply that will just reinforce the attitude that you have. Sorry you can't quite grasp the concept of not wanting to pay more in taxes.
It's called hard work and get off your butt
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Yet another selective liberal mind, hard at work...(sm)
You seriously don't remember all the hoopla about Obama quotes from his books that were played over and over, that surely stand alone...and yet, according to his ardent followers, were taken out of context.

You seriously don't remember his remarks about Pennsylvania gun owners and religion?


Oh wait, these don't count. They were....taken out of context. He didn't mean what they say he meant.


However....when it's done to a conservative (Rush), he's, well....all those things the previous poster said he was....god forbid you should listen to the rest of what he says, and why.....his comments stand alone......





You mean we wont be hearing, "war is hard work...we're making progress," etc? sm
Out with the old BS and in with the new. This should be interesting.
Yeah, it's hard to find the serum

Your spin on words is very unique.  However, the ecomony is already in a "bad way" to put it simply.  I highly doubt McCain can fix it overnight either especially by taxing our healthcare contributions when most of us don't even have healthcare to begin with.      Tax the middle class; is that McCain's plan.  Oh, that just sounds like more of the same.  Sorry, been there done that the past 8 years. 


Needing a change... 


 


Yeah.Like it's hard to live with $12 Billion

Here's my motivation....to do my part
Greed gang's going down.
"angry right". Yeah, lol. The left is so angry and
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yeah, when religion is discussed, it is the left
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Yeah. Those hateful liberals are being sued right and left
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Yeah now all the dummies are left... why do you post NM as your name, coward?
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Yeah, the left picks on Rush, but at least he makes
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Yeah, real weird. The left would say she was crappy if if she was funny...
Not surprising.

By the way, maybe she wasn't funny because SNL gave her a crappy script.


Ever think of it that way? They hate her too, ya know....
yeah, & I've got a left nostril inhaler to sell ya, too.
Some people will believe any load of crap the guy spews.  How many "bad actors" does this guy need to have in his past before you finally figure out he's totally smitten with the 60s radical crap?  Laugh if you want, but if he wins, the proof will be here in the archives.  It's not like you all weren't warned time and time again.
Ohhh, yeah! I still have plenty duct tape and candles left over, so I should be aiight :):) nm

GOT TO earn $70K??????
How do you come to that conclusion??? My husband and I both work full time, me as medical transcriptionist, he in local town govenment, and we manage to earn just about $50,000 per year.  What are we doing wrong??
I think anyone should have to earn trust....
and respect. I know what John McCain is and what he is not, from his voting record and his history. I know what Barack Obama is from his own books, his life and his voting history. Obama threw a lot of his previous life under the bus as each issue was raised because it would have been a roadblock to his candidacy. I find that dishonest and lacking in integrity.

All that being said...it is up to him alone to either solidify my opinion of him or change it. But I am not jumping on his bandwagon simply because he won the election.

:)
People who earn $40,000 a year don't pay any taxes.

According to the Republican Speaker of the House.


http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/18/hastert-no-taxes/


If you and your husband combined earn less than $250,000 a year...sm
you will see no increase in your taxes.
I would never earn a martyr badge, and again, I am not complaining...sm
It seems whenever I attempt to explain a point that someone else brings up, I am getting slammed here. Okay, one more time, having lived in the South and the Midwest and West, and having relatives there, I can just say for certainty that NORTH EAST PEOPLE (not just me) have a way higher cost of living, and I told you why, and it is fact. That is not being defensive or a martyr, YOU ASKED ME that living in the North East had to do with it, and I told you, because it is common economics. I actually thank God for my blessings, because no matter where you look, there are always those that are hurting more, have less, and are struggling way more, and I pray for them honestly every day. I do count my blessings. So one asked me why I "couldnt afford shampoo", which was just a metaphor for being on a strict budget and paying cash for things, giving all we can to our children and also to retirement someday, .....how in the heck is this all getting turned around so much from one single question, one hopeful proposal, something to discuss and ponder perhaps? Are there that many childish people here? No wonder our country is in so much trouble, if people would rather pull apart other people than discuss possible solutions like grown-ups, and this is how Congress acts much of the time....and nothing gets done for the country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta

you mean left wing....it's a left wing ding website on the messiah....the right wouldn't bothe

yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Hard to believe
that there are still people in this country who can't see this, who still worship Bush no matter how badly he disregards the Constitution and American freedom.  Our forefathers must be turning in their graves.
It is hard to believe, but a lot believe whatever sm
they hear on TV news, etc. They have heard the term our democracy so much, everyone believes this is our form of government, but it is not. America is a Constitutional Republic. Things are said enough and you eventually believe them. This is how propaganda works.
not so hard to believe

from http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/100506clinton.htm


The Clintons and the Bushes have been known to vacation together in more recent times. Earlier this year on CBS, Clinton revealed that he looks upon the Bushes as a surrogate family, and how Barbara Bush refers to him as her son. Is this really a picture of two distinct and opposed political ideologies pitted against one another?


You know, if you look hard enough

on the internet you can find "facts" to back up just about any ridiculous claim from two-headed monsters, to ape babies to all sorts of conspiracy theories.  There's even a cult that worship their own stool (yes I am not making this up) and I'm sure this cult has multiple references and "facts" to back up their beliefs in preserving their feces forever. 


But all that doesn't make it true.  And the discriminating and intelligent person should be able to tell feces from fact, but apparently you can't.


Who says they don't fit, maybe you are just not trying hard enough! nm
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Must have been hard..........sm
to hold that little baby, knowing it was thrown away by her mother and had to suffer such consequences. I sometimes think situations like that are worse than even the partial birth abortion.
Hard to believe

Question is who is behind him and who put him where he is.  This is an old article but the issues are still current.  And this is from..The Pakistan Daily (not America)


http://www.daily.pk/world/84-worldnews/6726-barack-obama-is-not-a-us-citizen.html


 


Not hard to believe
First, I find trying to associate Sarah Palin with this lady is ridiculous.

Obama's associations not so ridiculous, especially when there are pictures, witnesses, etc.

Second, it is not so hard to believe that Sarah and Todd have not met these people. My mom and dad did not meet my inlaws until 2 weeks before our wedding when we had a dinner. And my mom's parents didn't meet her inlaws until maybe a week before her wedding.
Trying really hard to think
why I would care what Rick Warren thinks. 
This is not hard to
In the view of Christians:

1. God does not condone evil, nor does He protect those who commit evil acts from the consequences of those actions.

2. There is a responsibility to protect the innocent that supercedes any conflicting obligation that might exist toward those who would kill them.

3. God was much harsher toward the oppressors of the innocent than anything the CIA has ever done. Try reading about the plagues He visited upon Egypt if you want to talk "torture".

I could go on, but there's no point. I'll just say thank God for Christians; a lot of people are alive in Los Angeles because we were able to disrupt a plan that was already in motion. If left up to the faux moralists (who would torture their own grandmothers in a minute if they thought it would save their own lives), those people would be dead. But hey - no AL Qaida would have had to look at a caterpillar!
You are very welcome. Its hard sm
to keep up with when you work for them much less the general public.
Yep, it's not hard to believe that the neocon
Limberger is a liar in the midst of all of his drama how can he keep a story straight?

He probably forgets half of it anyway, that's the drug effect.
Laughing so hard I go...
 into silent laughing, mode, thinking I will fall off my chair but I don't. That's how much I am laughing at this. He did make an appearance and say something, however lukewarm it was, I will say that for him, more than others do when they actually do kill/lie/out people.  Chavez, on the other hand, is giving oil away, giving billions to help Cuba and The Dominican Republic with oil prices which have soared to $4 a gallon in the islands. It is part of what he calls Petrocaribe. He is helping to rebuild decrepit refineries in the islands as well. Same goes for his own country where you can fill your tank for about $2. Whatever his politics are; he is sharing the wealth of his country with, omg!!! real everyday people and poor everyday people. What an evil dangerous man. I think we should kill him.  Want to really annoy a Republican...share whether or not the person/country with whom you are sharing meets your own moral criteria for giving, you know, the worthy poor versus the unworthy poor. And before anyone starts in with Chavez beomg a communist, socialist, a danger to the United States tripe, I have one word...China.
Not really that hard to grasp.
A great article about the Gulf of Tonkin incident can be read here:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/
g/gu/gulf_of_tonkin_incident.htm

But to answer more plainly, the point is that Johnson in all ways was a dead ringer for today's Republicans. He did not represent the Democratic ideals then or now. Interesting snip of the article:

Most Americans know little of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. Historians have shown that the Johnson administration provoked the incident with the intention of crafting a pretext for making overt the American covert involvement in Vietnam.

Sound like anyone you know? Sound like two Texas politicians might have owned the same playbook? Should either one of them be admired for that? I can certainly say no!

So when are those on the Wrong Right going to place blame where blame is clearly due on BOTH sides of the aisle?
I find it hard to believe you don't see it.

I would say a big no on that one - why are people trying so hard to get her in
I haven't figured out yet why people are trying so hard to get her into office. She should go back to being a Senator from NY. She even said earlier in her campaign that being a Senator is a very good job. I have not figured out (and I really have tried to be objectionable) as to why people want her back in there. Doesn't anyone remember what it was like when the Clintons were in before. I know that speaker of the house doesn't get her "in" the white house, but you have to remember that if something happens to President and VP then speaker of the house is next in line. That would make me very nervous and I'd be constantly looking over my shoulder as to what she and Bill are up to. I think she should go back to being a senator or congress person and leave it at that.
Its hard to calm down
You know when Kerry ran against Bush I did not feel this way. When Gore ran it was a little different because he was still associated with the clintons and I didn't not want a Clinton 3rd term. I just can't understand how someone can say something so shameful and hurtful. I can't even imagine what Obama's wife is thinking. Probably one of her biggest fears, and then along comes her husband's oponent and says something like this? Just really gets the blood pressure going. Some of the media is trying to make excuses for her but there is just no excuse. I wouldn't think so harshly if she had come out right away and said in no way did she mean what came out of her mouth, but she waits til the end of the day and then tries to cover it up and doesn't even apologize. Despicable and sleezy!!!!!!
I really find it hard to believe
the Clintons when I know deep down they don't want him for prez either.  How can you endorse someone when you tried so hard to put them down and show they weren't right for the job in the first place?
What is so hard about answering a
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That may be, but it is hard for me to understand....sm
after being a prisoner of war and saying he was tortured that he can say that torture of prisoners is OK. This only puts our soldiers in harm's way.
See. Was that so hard? It is up to anyone who reads it...
what to take from it.
And I think he works very hard trying to ...
take down a God he doesn't even believe exists by ridiculing people who know He exists. If God doesn't exist, what difference does it make? Methinks he doth protest too much...lol. Lotta guilt there from somewhere. lol.
No, what's hard is not getting banned from

It is very hard to believe this senario when...sm
she says she is an MT and between she and her husband are earning 24,000 a year and working their butts off. Something just doesn't add up. She is the one that brought the subject up about what she and her husband make. Her opinion of what working her butt of means and mine is very different. 40 hours a week as an MT even with minimum production and a the lowest cents per line would easily add up to more than 18-20,000 a year. Hello.
It is hard to believe that so many people
can put so much hope, trust, adoration and committment, thus making a god of this man. It is plain sickening.