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Yeah, it's that pesky TRUTH raising its ugly head again, huh?

Posted By: nm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Crazy Obama Stories - Joe sixpack

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And another troll rears her ugly head.
Shoo, shoo, shoo away, dirty FLY.
I mean really. Fascism is rearing its ugly head...nm

Last-worditis rears its ugly head once again.
Ad nauseum.........
Socialism rears its ugly head
I have a cute story too!

My neighbor is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican like so many up here in this rural area where Obama equals Osama. She's burying her guns because she thinks Obama will come here personally and take them if he is elected. She goes on about the Ay-rab pretender, and frequently brings me articles from far right-wing mags proving Obama is a black panther socialist and wants to take all the money and give it to bums. She don't want no socialist commie in the White House.

My neighbor lives on disability payments for a supposed bipolar disorder. She draws her late husband's veteran's benefits. When we had a mutual boundary problem with another neighbor, she got free state legal aid, while I had to pay for mine. She gets free medical care due to low income, and free dental care. She's 57 years old, just a few more years older than me. She's got a great house that they got on VA loan, and spends her days lounging on the back deck, playing ball with her dog, and going out to party at night in the local bars. And she's not unique up here - this heavily Republican county draws more social services out of the kitty than any other county in the state.

Now, here I am, working 13 hours a day sometimes 14 days in a row, never took a dime off the public dole, worked my whole life for everything I have,raised 2 great kids without help, pay my bills, served in the military, and dontcha know, I'm a Democrat.

Where would my essentially useless and unproductive REPUBLICAN neighbor be without "socialism"? Why, she'd be your bum on the street, that's what. In fact the whole town would be rioting without their free health care, social security checks, disability checks, food stamps, ad nauseum. And folks, they ain't Democrats - far from it.

So, I don't buy this phony outrage over "welfare mamas" - and anybody who doesn't realize where their hard-earned tax money is going right now (to the rich, the military corporate profiteers, and to some lazy Republican neighbors)ought to check it out, and maybe decide it's time for the average hard-working Joe to be able to keep a little more of what he makes for himself. What's so scary about that? It's high time somebody looks to give US a break.

The bad and the ugly truth of it all.........

Reality check!        link:  http://www.truthout.org/032109A


Some Truths About Guantanamo Bay



by: Lawrence Wilkerson  |  Visit article original @ The Washington Note


 The first of these is the utter incompetence of the battlefield vetting in Afghanistan during the early stages of the U.S. operations there. Simply stated, no meaningful attempt at discrimination was made in-country by competent officials, civilian or military, as to who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation.


    This was a factor of having too few troops in the combat zone, of the troops and civilians who were there having too few people trained and skilled in such vetting, and of the incredible pressure coming down from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and others to "just get the bastards to the interrogators".


    It did not help that poor U.S. policies such as bounty-hunting, a weak understanding of cultural tendencies, and an utter disregard for the fundamentals of jurisprudence prevailed as well (no blame in the latter realm should accrue to combat soldiers as this it not their bailiwick anyway).


    The second dimension that is largely unreported is that several in the U.S. leadership became aware of this lack of proper vetting very early on and, thus, of the reality that many of the detainees were innocent of any substantial wrongdoing, had little intelligence value, and should be immediately released.


    But to have admitted this reality would have been a black mark on their leadership from virtually day one of the so-called Global War on Terror and these leaders already had black marks enough: the dead in a field in Pennsylvania, in the ashes of the Pentagon, and in the ruins of the World Trade Towers. They were not about to admit to their further errors at Guantanamo Bay. Better to claim that everyone there was a hardcore terrorist, was of enduring intelligence value, and would return to jihad if released. I am very sorry to say that I believe there were uniformed military who aided and abetted these falsehoods, even at the highest levels of our armed forces.


The bad and the ugly truth of it all.........

Reality check!        link:  http://www.truthout.org/032109A


Some Truths About Guantanamo Bay



by: Lawrence Wilkerson  |  Visit article original @ The Washington Note


 The first of these is the utter incompetence of the battlefield vetting in Afghanistan during the early stages of the U.S. operations there. Simply stated, no meaningful attempt at discrimination was made in-country by competent officials, civilian or military, as to who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation.


    This was a factor of having too few troops in the combat zone, of the troops and civilians who were there having too few people trained and skilled in such vetting, and of the incredible pressure coming down from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and others to "just get the bastards to the interrogators".


    It did not help that poor U.S. policies such as bounty-hunting, a weak understanding of cultural tendencies, and an utter disregard for the fundamentals of jurisprudence prevailed as well (no blame in the latter realm should accrue to combat soldiers as this it not their bailiwick anyway).


    The second dimension that is largely unreported is that several in the U.S. leadership became aware of this lack of proper vetting very early on and, thus, of the reality that many of the detainees were innocent of any substantial wrongdoing, had little intelligence value, and should be immediately released.


    But to have admitted this reality would have been a black mark on their leadership from virtually day one of the so-called Global War on Terror and these leaders already had black marks enough: the dead in a field in Pennsylvania, in the ashes of the Pentagon, and in the ruins of the World Trade Towers. They were not about to admit to their further errors at Guantanamo Bay. Better to claim that everyone there was a hardcore terrorist, was of enduring intelligence value, and would return to jihad if released. I am very sorry to say that I believe there were uniformed military who aided and abetted these falsehoods, even at the highest levels of our armed forces.


The bad and the ugly truth of it all.........

Reality check!        link:  http://www.truthout.org/032109A


Some Truths About Guantanamo Bay



by: Lawrence Wilkerson  |  Visit article original @ The Washington Note


 The first of these is the utter incompetence of the battlefield vetting in Afghanistan during the early stages of the U.S. operations there. Simply stated, no meaningful attempt at discrimination was made in-country by competent officials, civilian or military, as to who we were transporting to Cuba for detention and interrogation.


    This was a factor of having too few troops in the combat zone, of the troops and civilians who were there having too few people trained and skilled in such vetting, and of the incredible pressure coming down from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and others to "just get the bastards to the interrogators".


    It did not help that poor U.S. policies such as bounty-hunting, a weak understanding of cultural tendencies, and an utter disregard for the fundamentals of jurisprudence prevailed as well (no blame in the latter realm should accrue to combat soldiers as this it not their bailiwick anyway).


    The second dimension that is largely unreported is that several in the U.S. leadership became aware of this lack of proper vetting very early on and, thus, of the reality that many of the detainees were innocent of any substantial wrongdoing, had little intelligence value, and should be immediately released.


    But to have admitted this reality would have been a black mark on their leadership from virtually day one of the so-called Global War on Terror and these leaders already had black marks enough: the dead in a field in Pennsylvania, in the ashes of the Pentagon, and in the ruins of the World Trade Towers. They were not about to admit to their further errors at Guantanamo Bay. Better to claim that everyone there was a hardcore terrorist, was of enduring intelligence value, and would return to jihad if released. I am very sorry to say that I believe there were uniformed military who aided and abetted these falsehoods, even at the highest levels of our armed forces.


Yeah, that ole poop-head chimpboy

Oh, wait a minute, I thought I was in a kindergarten class for a minute.  


Yeah, BB, why dont you just ignore the truth and
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Yeah, and you cant handle hearing the truth.
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There's that pesky double standard again.....nm
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How about that pesky Jennifer Brunner?
challenge aimed at suppressing 250,000 new voter registrations in Ohio that would favor republicans.
You don't remember those pesky crusades, do you? NM
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and that pesky democratic congress...funny, how you forget...

Ah just that pesky little piece of paper called the Constitution. n/m

Yep, you're right....it was probably that pesky "sm" poster typed in wrong....my bad.
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I know, I know (raising hand)..
It was tada - Bush.



Oh, so he's raising taxes?

it won't be Obama, it will be your state and local govt with extra fees on your cell phones, internet, cable, gas, etc.........get it? State and local - not federal


Raising taxes
Obama saying raise taxes to pay for spending.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_budget

They are looking at raising taxes on cigarettes...
to partially fund it, because the realistic Republicans on the hill know that will not be enough. Why is it a bad thing to say we need to look at all the social programs out there and prioritize? Fund childrens health care first. I would have no problem with that whatsoever. With what is left, divvy it up among existing programs. If we all agree that childrens health care should come first, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with a bill that extended the program to cover all American children but held provision to stricter signing up policy to eliminate illegals? Why would Democrats not agree to that? Because those some illegals vote them in every year probably. Sigh.
Raising taxes on ANYONE is not an answer,
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If he even mentions raising taxes on

higher incomes, people will pull out of the stock market in droves, driving it down even further; thus, no capital gains to use for his programs. There is no way he is going to even hint at it, though it is coming.


RNC fund-raising letter

Michael Steele, Chairman


Republican National Committee


310 First Street, Southeast


Washington, DC 20003


 


Mr. Steele,


 


In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.  But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well.  What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.


 


TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush.  The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them.  These are wrong, no matter who is in charge.  Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence.  Way to go.


 


Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.''   What makes our free market possible is the freedom of  losers to fail and winners to succeed.  No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas.  You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.


 


The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate.  McCain:  Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican.  By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out.  In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket.  I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.''  I wanted a conservative Republican candidate.  Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home. 


 


I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.''  Listen to this:  The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads.  I now consider myself an Independent.  In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.


 


Thanks for asking,  I feel much better now.


RNC fund-raising letter

Michael Steele, Chairman


Republican National Committee


310 First Street, Southeast


Washington, DC 20003


 


Mr. Steele,


 


In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.  But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well.  What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.


 


TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush.  The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them.  These are wrong, no matter who is in charge.  Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence.  Way to go.


 


Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.''   What makes our free market possible is the freedom of  losers to fail and winners to succeed.  No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas.  You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.


 


The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate.  McCain:  Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican.  By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out.  In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket.  I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.''  I wanted a conservative Republican candidate.  Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home. 


 


I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.''  Listen to this:  The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads.  I now consider myself an Independent.  In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.


 


Thanks for asking,  I feel much better now.


No, you're the one raising the ANTICHRIST spectre.
quacks squared
No it's not. Use google, if you dare. Some states are raising the age to 30
I have no problem with children who need healthcare. Children. Not adults.

It's just another social welfare program, when they raise the age to 30 (as if age 25 wasn't old enough to be still called a child).




Ummm, the part about raising the coverage
Did you not click on the link? It has to do with Medicaid.

I, at least, read it. Thanks for finding it.
JBB, you may have a point, so hard raising a daughter these days!! (Cute!) :-)........nm
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The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta

Liberal truth vs. Conservative truth.
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The ugly Right
I captured this off a post by MT:

"know, alas, I must be a real ogre to not feel compelled to cast my lot with the compassion-über-alles crowd, fall all over myself issuing the expected disclaimers concerning the treatment of the grief-stricken, and imply that such status renders one immune from the criticism that usually attends being a left-wing, activist wacko. But let’s get something straight: if you want to grieve, grieve. If you want to play politics, play politics.

But my sympathy for the grieving ends where their use of their grief as a political battering ram begins."

Someone named Selwyn Duke wrote that, apparently.

Is anyone surprised that the "pugilistic pen" of the NeoCons finds no merit in grief, no respect for loss, no sympathy for the death of a child? Oh no, their message is "YOU CAN'T FOOL US!" - to them it's always about WHO WINS and never about the reality of broken, bloodied hearts and bodies. To them, something as pure and simple as a mother's grief and determination becomes something ugly and suspicious and threatening.

They don't realize how their paranoia exposes the fact that they DO have much to be ashamed of. Their sense of being threatened is warranted. What is good and right is always a threat to liars, thieves and murderers. Just ask Jesus. he might have something to say about the stone hearts and evil plotting minds who killed him. Recognize yourselves, NeoCons? Oh no, you won't be tricked into seeing yourselves as you really are - never say uncle, right? You're too clever.

There's always the option to attack and attack some more - leave no whistleblower or dissenter unmauled! Shut them all up! Nuke 'em! Women, babies, the broken, the poor, the trampled, the noble dead - get another handful of dukey and smear 'til you drop!

Didn't really expect anything else from them.

Wow, this is really getting ugly.
I'm really undecided on who to vote for becasue I like and dislike many things about both candidates.  What I'd like to ask everyone that reads this message is to post a quick reply with something really good about the candidate that they suport WITHOUT saying anything negative about the opposing candidate.  That would really help me out, and probably a lot of other people as well.  Thanks!
LOL! She believes she can do anything ugly she wants because she

wraps herself up in the Bible and Jesus is her *special friend* and just gives her a wink and a nod every time she does something heinous.  At least that's what she herself said in a post not long ago.  (Aggressive denial by her to follow, I'm sure, like she lies about everything else.)


It's obvious that none of these people have Jesus in their hearts because there's no room for love and peace and truth in those jaded, hateful, dishonest, angry people.  I wonder if they even have a hint of how laughable they really are!  LOL! 


UGLY BENNETT









Ugly Bennett

Hit on 'abort every black baby' gaffe










William Bennett
Morality maven William Bennett was in holier-than-thou hell yesterday after the White House and just about everybody else blasted him for saying the crime rate could be reduced by aborting every black baby in this country.

The best-selling author of The Book of Virtues insisted he was no racist and refused to apologize.

I was putting forward a hypothetical proposition, Bennett said on his Morning in America radio show.

But the Bush administration quickly distanced itself from the cultural conservative. The President believes the comments were not appropriate, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

While Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and other Democrats demanded that Bennett apologize, NAACP chief Bruce Gordon said he was personally offended and angry that Bennett felt he could make such a public statement with impunity.

The Rev. Al Sharpton called the conservative's comments blatantly racist. He's a man who thinks black and crime are synonymous, he said.

But Bennett was defended by his brother, high-powered Washington lawyer Robert Bennett.

What I would emphasize is that he called this morally reprehensible, the lawyer told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. I think it's largely making a mountain out of a molehill.

Responding to a caller on Wednesday's radio program, Bennett said he disagreed with the hypothesis put forward in another best seller, Freakonomics, that crime goes down as abortions go up.

But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down, said Bennett.

Bennett, a Republican who opposes abortion, then added that this would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.

Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything links the drop in crime to a drop in the number of children born into poverty after Roe vs. Wade legalized abortion. But authors Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner did not assume that those aborted fetuses would have been black.

Race is not in any way central to our arguments about abortion and crime, Levitt wrote on his blog yesterday.

The Brooklyn-reared Bennett was education secretary under President Ronald Reagan and the nation's first drug czar under the first President George Bush. A darling of the religious right, Bennett's credentials as moralizer-in-chief were tarnished two years ago when he admitted he had a gambling problem.


Dumb's the word


What William Bennett said:

But I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.

Originally published on September 30, 2005


You must be one of the ugly people.
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All I know is that all this dirty, ugly
campaigning by the McCain camp has done nothing but fuel the fires.  You can't blame this on Obama.  He has handled his campaign with nothing but class.  There were so many things he could have dragged out, but he chose not to lower himself to those standards.  Kind of reminds me of the hysteria of the Massachusetts witch trials, and a lot of innocent people were hung over that.
Can't you just see those old ugly, fake
pictures of Obama on them hanging around all through their houses? They so cheapened those things when they stuck his old colored picture up there beside George Washington and John Kennedy. What a JOKE!
Who ever said that Hillary is ugly?
Now, this I want to know:

Who is prettier Hillary or Michelle?
UGLY woman. Looks like an
Hence, the full-time makeup artist, who should get a medal for merely making her sufficiently presentable that she doesn't break more than a couple dozen cameras wherever she appears in public.
yes, it's gonna be ugly, especially if
Hezbullah wins in Lebanon.
Pretty ugly stuff for someone . . .
who is so fond of mudslinging!!  He is a desperate man who would rather incite hate mongering than address the real issues at hand!!
This board is turning ugly
Towelhead? Oreo? half-breed??

SHAME on you.


shame on you.
Poster below is right...your comments here are ugly.

I was called jealous and ugly and that's not okay sm
No matter how you try to cover for your friends or backpedal. No matter how you worded it, that was a personal attack and I am noticing republicans or Palin and McCain supporters are getting very angry and speaking in hateful ways. I do believe it's because it's evident that Obama is winning. I do hope you will all be good American citizens and back our new president when this election is carried out and shows our new President Obama!
When I read the ugly responses here to my

post, I know that Jesus is real and that He not only gives someone a new heart but a new mind, a mind not corrupted by the world as the majority of the minds are of you who responded here with your attacks.  Of course, you think you are attacking me, some of you on a very personal level, not even knowing who I am, asking such a stupid question as to whether I have children or even suggesting sending brown envelopes filled with feces to people like me. 


 


I don’t know who you are either, but I can tell you that I pray God forgive you for your blindness and hate just as He forgave me when I surrendered my life to Him. 


 


This post is not about me.  It is about innocent life, life that never asks to be born, defenseless life that no matter the circumstances of conception is holy and valued in the eyes of its Creator.  For everyone of YOU reading this, someone gave you a chance at life.  That is more than 50 million aborted babies and counting have had.  Their lives have been snuffed out before they had a chance for life, liberty, and the pursuit of justice.  They have been murdered for convenience and a lack of responsibility.  We all have choices in life, and yes, responsibility does begin with conception.  Even a baby conceived in a rape has the same right to life as any other.  It didn’t have a choice as to its parentage or the circumstances of its conception.


 


The Red Envelope Project is to protest millions more innocent babies being murdered across the globe using U. S. taxpayer monies.  Woe to you if you support this administration’s unbridled hatred of innocent lives. 


 


I do put my money where my mouth is by working with pregnant women in my community, giving of my time, talents, energy, and financial resources in giving them an alternative to abortion.  Many have become pregnant under the most awful circumstances imaginable to the human mind.  Yet, these women are far more courageous than most of you who call us terrorists because we want to protect life.  In fact, these women are thankful that there are those of us who are willing to sacrifice for them so that their babies have a chance at life.  Not even the most vile of you on this board can take away the profound satisfaction and love we have of defending and protecting the most innocent among us.  When I see a mother look into the face of her baby and know that she has chosen life, whether she has decided to raise her baby or to give it up for adoption, then I know that all my time, talents, energy, and financial resources have gone into and been made to that which is worthy and glorifies my Lord, and another child has been born who will have an opportunity to become all that God created him or her to be. 


 


Someone made a choice of life for you.  Why would you want to deny that for another innocent baby?  Why would you want to support an evil president who celebrates death instead of life?


 


 


Sorry, but your protest idea, is what's UGLY,
You people are trying to force your beliefs on women you dont even know. You're trying to force them to have children you'll never see, and will never lift finger to help. The pro-choice folks don't tell others they must HAVE abortions, who why do you think it's your place to tell us they CAN'T?

Control, people. It's all about CONTROL. Right now we have control of our own bodies and life destinies, and they're trying to take that right away from us. Once that's gone, what will they take away from us next?
BIGOTRY is ugly, even when camouflaged

Incompetence and stupidity rearing its ugly
2100 more fraudulent voter registrations already uncovered as of today, but lets not blame ACORN for that, those wonderful caring nonracial folks.

Fraudulent is their middle name.
What an ugly thing to say. Keep spewing hate. We will see on Nov 4
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No, she was calling ME ugly and jealous actually, read it again. nm
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