Ummm, the part about raising the coverage
Posted By: age is about state funded insurance. on 2009-01-15
In Reply to: Private insurance and SCHIPS not the same. - sm
Did you not click on the link? It has to do with Medicaid.
I, at least, read it. Thanks for finding it.
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Ummm....ummm....nope, I'd best not touch that one. nm
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I know, I know (raising hand)..
It was tada - Bush.
Oh, so he's raising taxes?
it won't be Obama, it will be your state and local govt with extra fees on your cell phones, internet, cable, gas, etc.........get it? State and local - not federal
Raising taxes
Obama saying raise taxes to pay for spending.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_budget
Why no coverage
My guess would be that Bush doesn't want people to know the truth. He has refused to take the advice of his advisors regarding this war. He has refused to admit that he's capable of making a mistake. He has stomped on freedom of expression by limiting his "town hall" meetings to only those who worship him. Anyone disagreeing with or questioning his policies wasn't permitted inside. It's becoming more and more evident that he and his administration certainly don't have much fondness for the truth, either, considering all the lies perpetrated by them, which is what got us into Iraq to begin with.
I'm very, very concerned about what his policies have done to the safety of everyone in America. We are certainly in a quagmire, and it will take many future Presidents to fix what Bush busted.
first too much coverage of
Obama . . .now not enough . . . can never please you guys and gals.
CNN has done coverage throughout the
Some of the interviews weird rather odd.
They are looking at raising taxes on cigarettes...
to partially fund it, because the realistic Republicans on the hill know that will not be enough. Why is it a bad thing to say we need to look at all the social programs out there and prioritize? Fund childrens health care first. I would have no problem with that whatsoever. With what is left, divvy it up among existing programs. If we all agree that childrens health care should come first, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with a bill that extended the program to cover all American children but held provision to stricter signing up policy to eliminate illegals? Why would Democrats not agree to that? Because those some illegals vote them in every year probably. Sigh.
Raising taxes on ANYONE is not an answer,
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If he even mentions raising taxes on
higher incomes, people will pull out of the stock market in droves, driving it down even further; thus, no capital gains to use for his programs. There is no way he is going to even hint at it, though it is coming.
RNC fund-raising letter
Michael Steele, Chairman
Republican National Committee
310 First Street, Southeast
Washington, DC 20003
Mr. Steele,
In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats. But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well. What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.
TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush. The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them. These are wrong, no matter who is in charge. Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence. Way to go.
Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.'' What makes our free market possible is the freedom of losers to fail and winners to succeed. No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas. You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.
The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate. McCain: Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican. By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out. In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket. I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.'' I wanted a conservative Republican candidate. Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home.
I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.'' Listen to this: The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads. I now consider myself an Independent. In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.
Thanks for asking, I feel much better now.
RNC fund-raising letter
Michael Steele, Chairman
Republican National Committee
310 First Street, Southeast
Washington, DC 20003
Mr. Steele,
In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats. But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well. What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.
TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush. The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them. These are wrong, no matter who is in charge. Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence. Way to go.
Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.'' What makes our free market possible is the freedom of losers to fail and winners to succeed. No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas. You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.
The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate. McCain: Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican. By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out. In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket. I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.'' I wanted a conservative Republican candidate. Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home.
I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.'' Listen to this: The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads. I now consider myself an Independent. In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.
Thanks for asking, I feel much better now.
My husband is a vet so has VA coverage....
but he also works for the government and is a federal employee. I don't claim to know all there is to know either, but I believe the federal employee insurance depends on the best deal the government can get with a private insurance company. His happens to be Blue Cross/Blue Shield of the state we reside in. Maybe it is BC/BS across the board. But, at any rate, it is a private insurance company, not an entity for all federal employees in the United States administered from a central location. As to whether or not a person working at a VA hospital is a federal employee, my first inclination would be yes, because the government administers the VA hospitals. But, I do not know that to be a fact. The supplemental programs you talk about are state administered and vary state to state. Even Medicaid is to some degree controlled by individual states. What people are talking about when they talk about socialized medicine is like in Canada, in France, in Cuba...and other countries, where it is all centralized in the federal government. The federal government decides on the coverage, it administers the whole thing, from one place. Everyone gets the same plan, regardless. To some people, it looks good that the "rich" and the "poor" have the same plan and even if you have money you cannot jump "the line." "The line" being the waiting list for anything nonemergent. That is why Canadians come across the border in droves for procedures, etc. Recently two high risk pregnancies had to come to Seattle because there was no room for them in Canadian hospitals. I saw France's President on TV talking about how their health care plan is becoming nonsustainable and talking about having to cut benefits, raise taxes, or something soon. He talked about free market health care...so while some people might view socialized medicine as a cure-all, it isn't, and it is not sustainable, because it doesn't attack the core issue, and that is finding a way to bring costs DOWN. Historically, the free market system where there is competition brings costs down. The great minds of this country need to sit down and talk about that, reason it out, and not trot out the mother of all entitlement programs. People complain about HMOs making their health care decisions, yet are thrilled to let the government make their health care decisions for them in return for not having to pay a premium. That just makes no sense to me.
Insurance companies, health care providers, and a set of arbitrators need to sit down and work something out that will truly make health care more affordable for everyone in the country without handing it over to the government hook line and sinker. They should be able to do that. It would not happen overnight, but it could happen. I would like to see any candidate talk about that.
Covering the coverage
Just watch it before you judge anything. All this stuff can be easily checked for accuracy. The question one needs to ask him/herself is: "how accurately and fairly is my station of choice covering this stuff?"
It seems awfully odd that the 3 celebs from the alphabet stations couldn't get on that European/Middle East tour fast enough, yet McCain has been over to Iraq (and elsewhere) multiple times. None of them have gone along. How can that possibly be objective? Don't all of you want objectivity?
And why no debates between the 2 yet? McCain has been asking for months. Is that what you really want for a potential President?
Take your voting preference out of the mix before you answer these questions to yourself. If you allow the above, you aren't demanding true and unbiased information. Remember, there's a big difference between a news "reporter" and one who gives his/her opinions. There should never be a blurry line between the 2.
Convention Dishonesty
If you are watching the coverage you know much is being done...
okay, you don't believe in prayer. Couldn't you at least say you hope they will be okay? There is only so much men can do...we are talking a huge storm on a town below sea level.
What a nasty attitude.
full coverage for how much
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No, you're the one raising the ANTICHRIST spectre.
quacks squared
No it's not. Use google, if you dare. Some states are raising the age to 30
I have no problem with children who need healthcare. Children. Not adults.
It's just another social welfare program, when they raise the age to 30 (as if age 25 wasn't old enough to be still called a child).
Obama's grandmother and the media coverage
I feel very bad that she is terminally ill. I have lost many close relatives myself and those have been the worst of times for me.
But, I feel his campaign has used this situation to his media gain.
Put it this way, if it was me and I found out my grandmother was so sick, I would have been on the first plane there (I don't have my own jet). What if she died before he got there? As I said, there were a few days of a delay in there where the situation has been reported repeatedly. If she was so sick, he should have just gone. Everyone would have understood.
There. I said it. Many may think it was heartless thing to say, but wouldn't you have just dropped everything and gone?
Biden could have taken on more in his absence.
No danger of no shows. Media coverage alone
imagine that. W being upstaged by an elite, Islamic, racist, terrorist, socialist, commie pinko Nazi.
there's no media coverage because they issued a gag order -
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Yeah, it's that pesky TRUTH raising its ugly head again, huh?
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JBB, you may have a point, so hard raising a daughter these days!! (Cute!) :-)........nm
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I did not think Obama was for universal health coverage... see message
I thought he was just for a coverage to be available to all people - but not mandatory to take it. Am I wrong?
Full coverage based on income for people whose...sm
employers do not offer insurance.
gee, one-sided U.S. news coverage...go figure....it's how Obama
For convention coverage minus spinning, bashing, biased
Tired of attack politics? Don't need reporters telling you what you just saw or what to think about it? Want a one-on-one convention experience? Want to digest the content without the interference of disconcerting and distracting commentary? Want to be in charge of deciding what is and what is not pertinent during the course of the conventions? Do anchors and networks promoting their own hidden agendas get under your skin as they invent issues of no consequence, discount messages of great importance and try to stir up conflict? Do you find most coverage obnoxious, rude and insulting to your intelligence? Does their reporting look and sound like make believe? Do you think our candidates, conventions, parties, issues, policies and political process deserve more dignity than a big-top circus/carnival presentation?
The solution is easy. Switch that channel. Try CSPAN. Not to worry. If you feel you are missing something in the way of staying abreast with the pundit's play-by-play smear scripts, you can always get caught up on all those issues the next time you log onto MT Stars political forum.
only part saved was the ignorant part
You can read the whole article. This quote was saved to show what she said that was so stupid.
Ummm...yes you did....
You said take it to the conservative board. And I do not see what in the post was bashing. It was stating an opinion, which anyone, no matter what their political affiliation is, still has the right to do on this board or any other to my knowledge. If you perceive the truth as bashing, that is your prerogative. And the truth IS, liberals continue to defend Clinton even though he was and is a morally corrupt individual who broke the law of the United States while a sitting President. He did it, that is the truth, there is no way around that. Yet your party continues to say it was about sex. I will try this one more time...perjury is perjury no matter what it is ABOUT. It is a felony. He broke the law and his oath of office. Never apologized for either. And took his last hours in office an opportunity to pardon all the crony crooks he could. And yet you continue to defend him as a great man. Pardon me if that seriously undermines the credibility of your party. That is NOT bashing. That is the TRUTH.
ummm
The way I read that is these units would be activated in case of natural or manmade diaster, not out on the streets everyday. Good greif.
Ummm, so maybe they can
Then the guilty can be punished, and the innocent prisoners who are not terrorists (or at least weren't when they were initially locked up) can be set free.
Kinda a no brainer, dontcha think?
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm....
source of the info and the fact that you "don't know anybody who would think it's right" yada yada yada, chances are you and the author are jumping to conclusions that are most likely a tad over-stated. It might be helpful to keep in mind that the "government" is not some block of concrete buildings or master computer somewhere. They are flesh and blood just like the rest of us and are not likely to be party to placing "control" of the heath care of themselves, their parents and their own children in the thoes of such a scheme. Sorry. Jury's still out on this.
Ummm...no....
Get over yourself. If you have something intelligent to say, I'm all ears, but until that time.....
Ummm....(sm)
So you don't think waterboarding is illegal -- even though it goes directly against at least 4 existing treaties? If we aren't going to be held accountable by treaties that WE agree to, what's the point of being in them?
This is actually where I do disagree with Obama. He doesn't want to make this into a partisan thing and is seemingly not too interested in prosecutions. My opinion is that its not partisan to enforce existing laws. As far as I'm concerned the whole bunch from the Shrub gang need to be prosecuted. Maybe we can just extradite them to Spain. That would work for me.
Ummm....(sm)
Doesn't this belong on the gab board? What's wrong....don't want to talk about your heros, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld going down for torture?
Ummm....(sm)
I think I would go with conventional interrogation techniques...you know....the ones that actually worked on KSM before the waterboarding.
Ummm....(sm)
"what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns"
Well, that was straight out of O'Reilly's mouth. LOL. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's just about exactly what he said last night.
So you think that there is a direct funnel that takes our tax dollars and just hands them over to Acorn? Here's a news flash --- as the ladies noted last night on Billo's show, they are a nonprofit organization and have to apply and compete for grants and loans just like everyone else.
As for whether they are completely on the up and up, I have no idea, but I don't think I'll base that judgment on the commentary of a right-wing show host.
Ummm....(sm)
Exactly how is it that Fox's ratings prove that O'Reilly is not far right? LOL.. Ratings have absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.
However, since you mentioned Obama and fulfilling his promises, it may not turn out like you think. For the most part people who voted for him are pretty happy with how he's handling the economy and foreign affairs. However, there are a few things that have gotten to a lot of dems. For example, he hasn't gotten rid of "don't ask don't tell" yet. He hasn't fulfilled promises he made to the LGBT community. He's carrying on seemingly with "indefinite detention." He ran on a platform that promised these things would be fixed. Granted, he hasn't been there long and can still come around on these things. However, if he doesn't my guess is that the country will go even farther to the left than they did this time. Now that is what you should be worried about, not Fox ratings.
And just as a side note, if he gets healthcare reform through, it will be decades before a pub sets foot in the White House.
ummm.
Now who's making assumptions? You don't know what he paid for either. Secondly, I am fully aware of what is going on in this country. Spending, printing money, spending, printing money, etc., etc. Get over Bush He is gone. Obama has in four shorts months spent more money than the 43 presidents who preceded him COMBINED. So yeah, I worry about the cost of his date. Because it's just plain wrong. You want logic - you don't spend taxpayer money on a DATE in this failing economy. Logic would be to lead by example, not telling other people to sacrifice and then do something so excessive. Furthermore, who said I voted for Bush? You? Shows what you know. Next time don't vote in Obama and maybe free enterprise in this country will survive so we will all have jobs.
Ummm....(sm)
Obama has writtent 2 books ---- the first, "Dreams From My Father," was published in 1995. The second, "The Audacity of Hope," was published in 2006. --- Both before the election.
Ummm....actually it does...(sm)
The Declaration of Independence is not and was not a legal document. It simply stated the intent of the US to separate from Great Britian and why. It did not define any rules or regulations to be imposed in this nation.
Explain the Treaty of Tripoli that says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Another note: Not everyone in this country is in the business of impressing your god and therefore has no need of any kind of "blessing" from your god. What if I were a pagan and told you that the sun god was going to scorch the US unless everyone prayed to him/her. Would you do it? That's what you expect everyone else to do to impress your god. Why? Because YOU don't want to be in the mix when your supposed wrath of god experience comes. I would put that in the category of trying to make others do something they don't agree with just to save your behind. Don't even bother with the "but we want to save you too" speech. Believe me, we don't want or need saving.
Ummm...no....(sm)
Your main point was what you initially stated, and that was that there was no mention in the MSM about this incident. Unfortunately for you, I can undoubtedly come up with even more proof of MSM coverage if you'd like, but that would only serve to embarass you further.
As far as Obama not saying much about it, I think that was a good choice. At the time he was only a couple days out from his speech in Cairo. --- That would be the speech where he is seeking to calm tensions between our religous nuts and their religious nuts. Yeah....that would have been just a perfect time to bring that up. How about using your brain for a change instead of just spitting out the right wing talking points.
Ummm....(sm)
I do believe I've more than proven I can take the heat on this board....LOL, even from the loons like you who just lurk around waiting for me to post something so you can jump on it, which is rather funny and pathetic all at the same time, as well as from the paranoid lunatics like Patty.
BTW, you can now take "paranoid lunatic" out of the insinuation box and put in the statement box......just so you don't get confused.
Ummm....(sm)
A gag order was issued:
http://www2.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/jun/08/gag-order-issed-shooting-case/
The whole point of the gag order (which the prosecutors asked for, btw) is so they can come up with a jury that has not been overexposed to the case. I guess Fixed Noise wants to ensure that everyone hears about this so we can have a really hard time prosecuting this guy. Way to go Fox! 
Ummm....no. The link says sm
it contains a malformed video id. That's what it says when you paste it into the address bar and it takes you to You Tube.
Ummm...Which America would that be?
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Ummm....they do, actually, just as they take issue with
and ran with it.
Ummm....for starters
managed to assemble more than a dozen transitional economic advisors in 3 days, and I am certain he will not confine himself to those guys before it's all over. He has a 15 cabinet positions, 6 cabinet-level administrations positions and 3 Level 1 Executive Schedule offices to consider.
He's not been sworn into office, so there is not a whole lot he can do directly except to articulate his intent. No time for ego for a man who is preparing to face one of the greatest challenges as president in the history of our country. BTW, the Office of the President Elect has been around since 1963...not O's idea.
Ummm, think we should be concering ourselves
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Ummm...you surely know!!
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