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You can't make this stuff up...Looking forward to a *whiter* NO???see article

Posted By: democrat on 2005-09-30
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HUD chief foresees a 'whiter' Big Easy


By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
September 30, 2005



A Bush Cabinet officer predicted this week that New Orleans likely will never again be a majority black city, and several black officials are outraged.
    Alphonso R. Jackson, secretary of housing and urban development, during a visit with hurricane victims in Houston, said New Orleans would not reach its pre-Katrina population of 500,000 people for a long time, and it's not going to be as black as it was for a long time, if ever again.
    Rep. Danny K. Davis, Illinois Democrat and a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, quickly took issue.
    Anybody who can make that kind of projection with some degree of certainty or accuracy must have a crystal ball that I can't see or maybe they are more prophetic than any of us can imagine, he said.
    Other members of the caucus said the comments by Mr. Jackson, who is black, could be misconstrued as a goal, particularly considering his position of responsibility in the administration.
    I would beg and hope that the secretary, if that is what he is saying, would re-evaluate the situation, said Elijah E. Cummings, Maryland Democrat.
    Mr. Jackson, whose remarks were reported by the Houston Chronicle, said New Orleans might reach a population of 375,000 people sometime late next year with a black population of about 40 percent at the highest, down from 67 percent before Hurricane Katrina sent a storm surge that overwhelmed New Orleans levees and flooded 80 percent of the city.
    The population of New Orleans before Katrina was a little less than 500,000, surrounded by large, predominantly white suburbs. The largely black Ninth Ward and the predominantly white middle-class Lakeview section near Lake Pontchartrain were overwhelmed by floodwaters.
    Mr. Jackson, a former developer and longtime government housing official, said the history of urban reconstruction projects shows that most blacks will not return and others who want to might not have the means or opportunity. His agency will play a critical role in the city's redevelopment through various grant programs, including those for damaged or destroyed properties.
    In the storm's aftermath, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rep. Maxine Waters, California Democrat, charged that relocating evacuees across the country was racist and designed to move black people, who overwhelmingly vote Democratic, out of Louisiana. The state elected its first Republican senator, David Vitter, in nearly a century in 2004.
    Both the preacher and the congresswoman suggested that the residents be housed at the closed England Air Force Base at Alexandria, La., to keep them closer to home.
    Rep. Bobby L. Rush, Illinois Democrat, said Alphonso Jackson's remarks and the prospects of real-estate speculators and developers in New Orleans are foreboding.




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Then why don't we make a pact from this moment forward?

We will stay off your board if you stay off ours. Do you agree or not?


The stuff in that article has been refuted...
and so far as I know has not been endorsed by known communists and terrorist organizations (Sal Alinsky's son and Hamas). In the questionable associates column, Obama is way ahead in "tics." Just being honest here.
don't make stuff up. You don't know that, and neither do I...nm
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You could make a great article with that (sm)
What you just wrote above would make a great magazine article. People were so tough back then, weren't they? I wonder what we would do? Most of us would not even begin to know how to do any of the things people used to do to survive.
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.


I was looking forward
to the foot-long hot dog myself..............
Thanks for the link; I look forward to seeing it.

I am looking forward to reading

Stephen Colbert's book "I am America and so can you."  I got a little preview this morning on Tim Russert.  It promises to be a delicious, laugh-out-loud satire.


 


Looking backward instead of forward is
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Once source we can look forward to where
the war chest. It's time to stop rebuilding Iraq and enricing their surplus coffers, get out of dodge, bring our troops back home and start rebuilding our own country. I would look for that from Obama sooner rather than later and certainly he is not on that 100-year time line of McCain's. The Iraqis gets their country back and get to govern themselves, we get our troops back, the direction of the tax dollars gets reversed and we stop one of the unspoken, yet most significant economic hemorrhages of W's administration.

We then turn our attention toward reversing the power and economic stranglehold the corporations hold over us by instituting taxpayer-friendly policies that put corporate welfare behind the welfare of our citizens. We build an economy from the ground up instead of the top down. Sound familiar? We've done it before and we can do it again. Once we do that, W's legacy of fear and division will takes its rightful place in annals of history and seem like just another bad dream we all had.


Going forward would be a blessing.

Just give the man a chance.  He was vetted inside out before he got to the Senate.  He was then vetted even more before he was elected by the majority of Americans. 


He is NOT a terrorist.  His interests lie in helping the middle class, not in continuing the corporate welfare and helping the rich get richer, as has been going on for the last eight years.


We are in a SERIOUS economic crisis right now.  That "trickle down" theory simply isn't working because the richest and greediest at the top simply AREN'T allowing anything to trickle down.  They outsource our jobs so they can hire cheaper labor to get even richer.


Unlike Bush, Obama wants to give financial incentives to small businesses for keeping our jobs IN America.  That just might help many medical transcriptionists in the USA.


The constant jabs and stabs at his character are reflective of the smear tactics employed by the McCain campaign, and most people saw past it and rejected that tactic.


Worse yet, the constant flaming of him and suggesting he's a terrorist is doing nothing but practically insuring that his safety is in jeopardy.  If he survives long enough to take the oath of office and begin to do his job, I'll be his toughest critic if he doesn't deliver on the promises he made.


We've had EIGHT LONG YEARS of constant fear mongering, and Americans are tired of it.  I realize there is reason to be fearful of terrorists, but Obama is NOT a terrorist, as he's been portrayed on this board.  He's a Christian, not a Muslim, as he's been portrayed on this board.  He wants CLEAN COAL and wants to find technology to support that so the coal industry can continue to exist, and he is supported by the United Mine Workers of America (contrary to what has been alleged on this board).  He is encouraging public service in exchange for help with the costs of college (and will NOT FORCE it on everyone, as has been alleged on this board). 


Most of an article was copied and pasted here yesterday about some congressman from Georgia being fearful that Obama is a Marxist because he thought a civilian force to help protect us was a good idea.  One small paragraph of that article was DELETED, and that was the fact that BUSH SUPPORTED THIS.


As it is now, under Bush, we have the military in place in America, ready for ???? in case we the people become uncivilized.  We have Bush and Paulson buying banks.  We've had a "redistribution" of wealth for the last eight years that has benefited the richest of the rich.  We, the people, are paying trillions of dollars to bail out institutions that continue to party on our dime, institutions that continue to give multi-million dollar bonuses to crooked executives, while more and more Americans become jobless.  It's been reported that 47 million people don't have health insurance.  Just keep in mind that with each job lost, there is a high probability that health insurance is lost, as well, since many people can't afford exorbitant COBRA payments.


Obama wants to help every American afford healthcare.  This is especially relevant for me, as someone with an incurable disease and no health insurance, which I had to voluntarily terminate when my monthly premiums rose to 50% of my gross annual income.


These are the issues that are important to people.  Either way, Barack Obama was duly elected by the majority of Americans, and he will be our President -- unless the hostility towards him grows so hateful that any chance he may have had will simply be extinguished, and if that happens, it will be because of some of the rhetoric going on in this country that is reflected on this board.


I don't see him as some sort of "Messiah."  I see him as a biracial man who is the product of a union that wasn't even legal in some states just a few years before he was born.  He has a perspective that is unique in that he has lived both a white and a black life.


In my opinion, he represents a little bit of the very best in most of us.  It would be hard to see that, though, after reading the hostile comments on this board, some of them inflammatory opinions, and some of them copied and pasted articles (with portions of content removed that might be viewed as favorable to him, as in the case of the Georgia congressman yesterday).


If you're better off than you were eight years ago, then you're an anomaly because the country as a whole is in much worse shape.  I trust Barack Obama.  I don't trust hateful rhetoric -- rhetoric that is reckless and result in devastation for this country.  We've been divided, by design, for the last eight years.  It's time for us to come together.


Can we just give him a chance -- PLEASE -- for the sake of our country and for the sake of our children and their future?  You just might be pleasantly surprised at the sunshine that might peek through all those dark clouds that reside in your hearts and minds, if you allow yourself to see it.


Forward her emails to me, please.
Thanks.

Moderator

you should forward that last paragraph
to the White House where they seem to think terrorists can be rational and reasoned with and will play nice with us.
Thanks. Very much looking forward to reading more of your views.

So, you look forward to paying for more social
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Me too, MS....I look forward to all who are speaking tonight.
Guiliani is speaking, Huckabee....though I am not a Republican, I have to admire them. When one of theirs has some issues that they disagree on (like Guiliani being pro choice), they don't excommunicate and demonize them. MUCH more democratic party than the Democratic party.
That is good. I look forward to seeing how she speaks and...sm
how knowledgable she is when answering unscripted questions or delivering a speech.
looking forward to Friday's debate

can hardly wait.


 


Funny. Not ONE pub has stepped forward
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I'll step forward.......
I have two choices here, more taxes or no more taxes. Now, in light of the current situation that will now tax us more, before all this, Obama has not been shy about taxing, taxing, taxing, to pay for all his little social programs, which for the most part are jokes. And for those that don't believe this is a racial issue, think again. He came out punching at first, spouting all his plans for more social programs, more this, more that, bigger government, and that means higher taxes for all...all except those that don't pay taxes in the first place and live off the government, which he is well aware of and aware that these same people usually don't vote but he is going after them with everything he's got, including ACORN, because he doesn't care how he gets their vote, just that he gets it.

McCain has directly said he will not add more taxes, he wants smaller government, less government interference in our lives. As it should be. The government's main role is to basically run a military to protect this country, not to tax its citizens.

Obama has said nothing about smaller government, less government interference in our lives but instead has said just the opposite. Now, I understand with so many voting for him that already need someone to tell them what to do, how to feel, how to think, etc., that won't be a far stretch to believe that the government is their friend and ally, but sadly enough he likes it that way.

I don't particularly care for either one of them. Ron Paul would have done it for me, but with what I am left with, I choose between less government or more government. More government = more taxes !!!!! You can't argue that point.

Where is he planning to get this money. Well, he has spouted the fact that bringing our troops home will free up that money to be put here......I'll believe it when I see it. If he ever gets his hands on that kind of money, he will have blown it on more social programs and babysitting programs for lazy parents, who suck the blood out of my paycheck in the first place, all for the sake of making their children smarter. Pleeeeeze.....the only thing that will make anyone's child smarter is having a parent that gives a d*mn in the first place, not more taxes thrown at the problem. You don't need more taxes to read to your child, put a book in the home (hey, the library is free), talk to your child instead of the ususal phrases of condemnation I hear around here, make sure they do their homework, basically just be involved. No one needs to pay more taxes to get that.

More social programs = socialization of a country. But, for those that believe he will save them from themselves, Obama is loving it. Because these are the same people that freak out at the thought of thinking for themselves, not being dependent on the government for their lives.
Thanks for the head's up. Look forward to watching
bury this one in the trash right where it belongs...under the rotting fish.
If you are all about moving forward, why dont you
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Fantastic speech -looking forward for the debate
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Anytime he's on-camera and turns forward
very often)... and anyone can see it. His left jaw/cheek or whatever sticks out like a chipmunk with an acorn in his cheek. I was just wondering if that's where his cancer was.
Thanks Nanaw. Guess the poster looks forward to
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Only the open minded and forward thinking
There isn't anything he can do about narrow-minded, self-righteous divisionists. Obama has won over the educated majority of the entire world.
Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less

If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)

That's right, Bush is still alive and well.  Check this out.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676


Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?


So does someone's comment at the end of the article, discredit the whole article??
Unbelievable. 
Just because you make a statement does not make it true...
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Really, is this the best stuff you can come up with over here? How about some

I don't know why you say some of the mean stuff you say, so....
who are you to determine who is a straight thinking person?  I think what he was getting as is simple.  It is a FACT, like it or not, that African-Americans make up a huge portion of our jail population, much more than their 13% representation in the population would expect.  Saying that a black person has a lower IQ because they are black is racist.  Stating a fact like 70% of black children are born to an unwed mother, while sad and startling, is simply a fact and not a racist comment.
Since you take this stuff so seriously
look at who is #2---but again, I guess the Google fairies have worked their magic in putting these people under the word miserable.

so it's stuff everybody already gets anyway...
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Same here. Cant take any more of this stuff on TV.
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Actually new stuff, you just don't like to see it. n/m
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I think BB get all this stuff from
moveon.org or something.  Sounds a lot like that sort of thing. 
Even if he did say that stuff...
who cares?! Is Bush in the White House now? No! Whatever lame remarks Biden might have made to him when he was in the White House really don't matter any more. He's just trying to puff out his chest because he has nothing else to do since Obama is keeping him on such a tight leash.

Unfortunately, like so many of the rest of our "leaders," you can't believe a thing that comes out of their mouths.
LOL! Who comes up with this stuff??
I have to forward this to my husband now; he loves a good joke!
This stuff was not broadcast
 because anyone believes Bush is a groper or is worried that he has a potty mouth.  it was published and broadcast to show how inept he is out of his element - the ranch.
bored with this stuff, onto something new
Mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears is out promoting new book. In a Newsweek article, she points out the hypocrisy of her daughter being criticized for being a pregnant teenager and she being called a bad mom, but Bristol Palin is commended for valuing life and her mom is made out to be a good mom.

Not a fan of the Spears, but I thought she had a valid point.
Truly scary stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU
of course he would say that stuff - he was running against him! nm
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More dumb stuff.
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Interesting stuff...

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html


Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...

Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...



Quote:




Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...

...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/b]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...

...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism.

Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...



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In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners.

Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page..."

Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...

tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...



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In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago

Co-founded?...

Wonder who co-founded it with him?...



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William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament.

Okaaaaayy...

So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...

Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...



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GRANT SUPPORT

Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.

Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000
Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...

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Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....



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Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999
There you have it folks...

Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...

But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?..."

Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...



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At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.”
When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...


Thanks - it too me a lot of deletions and stuff
I didn't want to offend anyone because I believe we all have rights as human beings to believe whatever we want to believe - I have a mormon sister (who grew up with me in a methodist church) and she keeps pouring on me how her religion is right and anyone who is not mormon will not be on the "higher level" after we depart and then it will be too late. HA HA HA But then again I have an aunt who feels that because we are not in the charismatic movement we are heathens. HA HA HA. Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at it.

That's too funny about the guy telling God to get his act together. God's probably up there saying "who died and made you boss". HA HA
Believe it or not some of us 'uns still eat that stuff
which is why we won't go hungry.  'Course ya gotta be a Hill William (classier version of Hill Billy) to appreciate them thar vittles. LOL
I think he has his stuff altogether, and if I were you
would not worry 1 second about his getting the big head. There have been others before him (say Kennedy that I remember well before he took office and while in office) and the same thing you are seeing, the adoring audiences, etc. were very apparent then also. Obama has a lot of sense going for him- nah, would not lose any sleep on such a trivial issue. The country is so glad to be rid of Bush that people are tremendously overjoyed about this new fresh face. I think he will be a tremendous president.
This is scary stuff.
I'm totally out of the loop on this one. When did this come about? I'd like to read up more about this.