You just want to make me puke! If you want to bring Jesus into ...sm
Posted By: anon on 2008-02-25
In Reply to: Rush is Right - Rush's Girl
the discussion, what would Jesus say about the politics of today, how we provide for the weak, elderly and helpless. I am a Christian but respect people of all faiths. What would Jesus say about 99% of the people of the world living in poverty while less than 1% live in luxury, never using their wealth to help the less fortunate?
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Neocons make me puke
Only puke to the hateful neocons. You guys just make me sick to my stomach with your antedeluvian ideas and beliefs..**PUKE**
We don't bring it up to dismiss Bush, we bring it up...
to show that your criticism holds no water. It's not a political thing, it's a human thing. People have shortcomings. Now, if you want to have a statute of limitations on this thing, then I guess Bush is off the table as it's been about 20 years since his last drink, believe it or not (I know that's your next reply, that he still drinks, which you have no proof of so don't even try it).
P.S. Don't Puke!
I was typing this while you and Sam were going back and forth!
Although he did still say it! :-P LOL
I agree with you two. Flat tax percentage across the board is the way to go!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..puke
LOL, LMFAO..Yup, answer for me once again, rabid radical right wing fool. You know my brain, my being, me..Gee, you must be psychic..Conservative board must be slow today or maybe all the hate, anger and nastiness has built up over the last few days, knowing that your boy Bush is a murderer and all, on his home land and abroad, so you decided to visit the intelligent caring loving liberal board and start baloney, once again..sigh..so predictable..so so predictable..Okay, you posted your spewl..now climb back under the rock you came from..Bye, bye, toad.
I'm pretty sure I want to puke!
Why don't we just hand our country over to them now and save Obama all the trouble..... and please O lovers, do not tell me he hasn't contributed GREATLY to this decision!! Hawaii!!?? Pleeeeze!!! Naw, he ain't Muslim!!!!
Barf, puke, snort
Hello.......this is earth calling.....you can come back now.
maher's letter to the chickenhawk warmonger *puke* president
The warmonger chickenhawk liar is on the TV right now. I cant watch, he makes me want to puke with all his lies..I dont know how anyone can believe this walking piece of dirt.
Bill Maher | Posted September 15, 2005 04:05 PM
Mr. President, this job can't be fun for you any more. There's no more money to spend--you used up all of that. You can't start another war because you used up the army. And now, darn the luck, the rest of your term has become the Bush family nightmare: helping poor people. Listen to your Mom. The cupboard's bare, the credit cards maxed out. No one's speaking to you. Mission accomplished.
Now it's time to do what you've always done best: lose interest and walk away. Like you did with your military service and the oil company and the baseball team. It's time. Time to move on and try the next fantasy job. How about cowboy or space man? Now I know what you're saying: there's so many other things that you as President could involve yourself in. Please don't. I know, I know. There's a lot left to do. There's a war with Venezuela. Eliminating the sales tax on yachts. Turning the space program over to the church. And Social Security to Fannie Mae. Giving embryos the vote.
But, Sir, none of that is going to happen now. Why? Because you govern like Billy Joel drives. You've performed so poorly I'm surprised that you haven't given yourself a medal. You're a catastrophe that walks like a man. Herbert Hoover was a shitty president, but even he never conceded an entire city to rising water and snakes.
On your watch, we've lost almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon and the City of New Orleans. Maybe you're just not lucky. I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side.
So, yes, God does speak to you. What he is saying is: 'Take a hint.'
Jesus
I had a long reply typed, but lost it when it wanted me to edit H*LL as a "bad word!" Sigh...
Anway, yes, I do believe that Jesus existed, he was a Jew after all, lol. Most Jews don't believe he was the Messiah and are still waiting for the Messiah so that we can be "gathered" with our ancestors.
I personally believe, though many Jews believe differently, as do many christians, that "heaven" is being "with G-d" feeling his presence and guidance in our lives. H*ll is being absent from G-d, which can happen at any time in our lives. I've got to get back to work, but I will try to post more later.
Yes, sometimes I do take offense at the world assuming that I want to take part in every christian thing or that christmas is a big deal to me (it is no deal, except I usually get a day off of work or some good overtime pay!) Though it bothers me sometimes, I have never asked that it go away, but some days in December, I would like to be able to go to the mall without hearing carols and seeing Santa.
Jesus again
Yes, I believe he lived and was crucified. Don't believe he rose again. Most Jews believe only the old testament, but many study the new testament also.
As for believing the bible, no I don't think G-d can be wrong, but man certainly can, and the Jewish Old Testament is a good bit different from the several christian bibles that are around. Bibles are translated by humans, which can and do make mistakes, interpret things their way, etc.
Jews usually study Hebrew, so we can study texts in the original form. Many christians accept the bible as "the word" without ever studying how it came about, what concessions were made in each version. Reformed christians rewrote the bible because they believe the catholic version was incorrect. King James rewrote it so he could get a divorce (more or less). There are several books that were never included in the new testament, or that are in some bibles and not others.
One of my dear friends is a PCUSA minister and she spends a lot of time studying different translations of both new and old testament and there are a lot of inconsistencies and flaws in many versions of the bible and this is why some people don't take it as "gospel" (pun intended.)
Jesus
Jesus is the Messiah and he did rise after three days. GOD ( I will spell it out) is perfect and infallible. If he wanted a book written through mankind about his life, love, way to live, and about his son Jesus Christ, I think he could manage for that book to be written without mistake. It is called FAITH. It is a shame that in this world today no one seems to have any.
One day soon, every one will see that Jesus was and is the son of God and that you will ONLY get to heaven by accepting his free gift of salvation. The rest will go the h*ll
Jesus said it, not me.
Jesus said many times that He was the only way. I don't really care for denominations, but yes, I believe only those that accept Jesus as Lord and Savior will "get through the pearly gates".
It's not hypocrisy. Islam is a false religion, therefore I would not want to live under their law. Not to mention you can forget all the freedom (such as being gay, abortion, etc) under their law. They'll just cut your head off instead.
To bring in an oil well........ sm
takes about 10 to 14 days, depending on the area being drilled. This is for a land rig, not an off-shore rig. I live in a very oil and gas rich area of the country and I see them going up and coming down in a matter of days.
You know better than to bring
the Big JC into conversations on this board. Liberal nut jobs will start screaming about how church and government should be separate and how dare we force our religion on them. Next we will go into staying out of women's uteruses and allow the murder of unborn children but OMG.....don't even think about shooting wolves in Alaska as a predator control program because that is just horrible!!!
No more of a radical than Jesus was.
:)
I'm not sure what you're getting, but do you think Jesus
would have wished assassination on anyone?
Like I said I quite enjoyed the shows until I found myself listening to Pat spew his political spin as if he were speaking for Christ himself. THAT'S what I don't agree with, and I'm obviouslly not the only one not tuning in. Did you read the article???? The show barely raked in 1.3 mil in profits last year. Why??? Because it is an off year for the republican party.
Jesus loves and cherishes his followers and those who do not. He loves and cherishes all of Gods' children. I wouldn't even attempt to make a comparison of Jesus to the likes of people who use His name to advance their OWN agendas.
So pretty much Jesus would be like,
that's hilarious. Of course I can't say what He would do or say and neither can you, but didn't He teach to take care of those that can't take care of themselves? It is very hypocritical of you to talk about a country that murders millions of babies being morally wrong and in the same breath say it's okay let children die or suffer because their parents could not afford (or chose not to purchase) good healthcare. It's not the kids' fault if they got irresponsible parents or parents that were not in the upper-middle class. Should they suffer for their parents' sins/shortcomings?
Jesus and the Democrat
A Republican in a wheelchair entered a restaurant one afternoon and asked the waitress for a cup of coffee.
The Republican looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that Jesus sitting over there?"
The waitress nodded "yes," so the Republican requested that she give Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.
The next patron to come in was a Libertarian with a hunched back.
He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a cup of hot tea.
He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, "Is
that Jesus over there?"
The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of hot tea, "My treat."
The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches.
He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, "Hey there, honey! How's about getting' me a cold glass of Miller Light?"
He, too, looked across the restaurant and asked, "Is that God's boy over there?"
The waitress once more nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold glass of beer. "On my bill," he said.
As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed."
The Republican felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.
Jesus also passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, "For your kindness, you are healed."
The Libertarian felt his back straightening
up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of back flips out the door.
Then Jesus walked towards the Democrat. The Democrat jumped up and yelled, "Don't touch me .. I'm collecting disability."
Was Jesus a socialist?...sm
On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come, enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?" And Jesus will answer them, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of these least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!"
Was Jesus a Socalist? ......sm
Was Jesus a Socialist
by Ralph Brandt, Jan 21, 2007
This is a comparison of Jesus to a Socialist.
There is a significant difference between Socialism and Christ.
Jesus said, "Give to the poor."
The socialist says, "We tax you so we can give it to the poor."
The one is voluntary giving, the laying down one's life (in the form of labor and money). The other is being taxed - that is the money is forcefully taken. I am sure that some will argue this is not forcefully taken but look at what happens if the tax is not paid. It will eventually come to it being taken by force. The tax man will come, then the police (in some form) will come. Either the money or liberty will be forfeited.
Jesus said, "Give to the poor." This act is one that benefits the giver and the recipient. The giver does it out of love and duty. The recipient gets something that is handed to him by a willing giver. That attitude does wonders for both.
The socialist says, "We tax you so we can give it to the poor." The taking of taxes certainly is taking money in a way that the "giver" is generally not a willing participant. In the spirit this taints the money no matter where it is disbursed. The forcible taking places the person giving the money as not being blessed for giving because they are not willingly given. I believe if we willingly give money that goes to taxes that are used to help the poor we have a reward for that just the same as if we gave it privately. And if the person gives the taxes grudgingly there is no reward for it. The way the money is disbursed is degrading to the recipient. They are actually encouraged to lie to get what they need. The system is one that steals from the one taxed and the recipient. It steals money and reward from the taxed and the respect, dignity and at times the honesty and integrity from the recipient.
Jesus never did anything that degraded or stole....
Socialists do it routinely.
Anyone who compares the two as being alike is either a fool or a liar - depending on whether he or she knows the truth or not.
http://www.socyberty.com/Politics/Was-Jesus-a-Socialist.13750
Victory in Jesus
I heard an old, old story,
How a Savior came from glory,
How He gave His life on Calvary
To save a wretch like me;
I heard about His groaning,
Of His precious blood's atoning,
Then I repented of my sins
And won the victory.
Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.
I heard about His healing,
Of His cleansing pow'r revealing.
How He made the lame to walk again
And caused the blind to see;
And then I cried, "Dear Jesus,
Come and heal my broken spirit,"
And somehow Jesus came and bro't
To me the victory.
Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.
I heard about a mansion
He has built for me in glory.
And I heard about the streets of gold
Beyond the crystal sea;
About the angels singing,
And the old redemption story,
And some sweet day I'll sing up there
The song of victory.
Chorus
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.
We just did this one Sunday at church! Funny you should mention it!
Jesus and the Democrat
Jesus and the Democrat
A Republican in a wheelchair entered a restaurant one afternoon and asked the waitress for a cup of coffee. The Republican looked across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that Jesus sitting over there?'
The waitress nodded 'yes,' so the Republican requested that she give Jesus a cup of coffee, on him.
The next patron to come in was a Libertarian with a hunched back. He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a cup of hot tea. He also glanced across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that Jesus over there?'
The waitress nodded, so the Libertarian asked her to give Jesus a cup of hot tea, 'My treat.'
The third patron to come into the restaurant was a Democrat on crutches. He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, 'Hey there, honey! How's about getting' me a cold glass of Miller Light?' He, too, looked across the restaurant and asked, 'Is that God's boy over there?'
The waitress once more nodded, so the Democrat directed her to give Jesus a cold glass of beer. 'On my bill,' he said.
As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Republican, touched him and said, 'For your kindness, you are healed.'
The Republican felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced a jig out the door.
Jesus also passed by the Libertarian, touched him and said, 'For your kindness, you are healed.' The Libertarian felt his back straightening up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of back flips out the door.
Then Jesus walked towards the Democrat. The Democrat jumped up and yelled, 'Don't touch me .. I'm collecting disability.'
Are you say Jesus was pro choice?
Suffer the little children to come unto me.
Honey, you need to get yourself a real Bible. Apparently yours is missing a few important chapters.
The Jesus that I know was very close to...sm
Mary Magdelene a prostitute. He did not agree with her profession, but he loved her and saw her value apart from what she did to survive. Things are not ever just black and white, good and bad. Because Obama does not agree with you on certain heartfelt beliefs does not mean that Jesus would not support him in his efforts to bring peace to the world.
Ill go there this weekend and bring
you back some posts. I just went there once and could not stomach it. I havent checked out the Dem underground board yet.
sally bring your
post regarding Mccain's lack of support for troops up the top. It is highly relevant and I think it is buried in the muck and name-calling below.
Bring on the Miracle Gro. lol. nm
nm
Don't bring a bat to a gunfight.
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Aaah, you want to bring it up here....okay
You seemed to have lived a very privileged life but
my family wasn't privileged. We did for ourselves and never felt we were better than others as your family did. We didn't use others to do our work for us. My father, mother, grandfather and grandmother worked side by side with blacks, doing the same jobs they did in factories, in the fields, you name it. I was never raised to believe I was better than others as you were. You obviusly didn't despise your family's racism too much. You still used your nanny, maids, whatever you want to call them and I'm sure you didn't wait on yourself hand and foot. So please don't sit there and sound all sanctimonious about your life. I actually lived life growing up and knew what it was to not be raised to think I was better than everyone else. I never looked at black people as someone who should "do our work" for us as you did. Perhaps you would know best about prejudice, bigotry and racism, since you were so established in a family that did. What I do know is the black people that lived close to us, and there were many, worked side by side with my family members, all being paid the same and all sweating through the summer sun working until dark to plant crops and harvest them together. My family picked cotton out in the blazing summer heat side by side with blacks as well. Did yours? Of course not.
So, until YOU'VE actually lived and worked for REAL with those you want to keep down and feel so sorry for, you need to learn to keep your mouth shut.
Nobody needs your kind trying to sound so self righteous when all you're really trying to do is ease your mind and your guilt.
Don't make that my issue.
You sound like a self-righteous hypocrit.
For Obama also to bring in that Rev?
"Black will not be asked to sit in back.... brown will be asked to stick around.... and WHITE will embrace what is right". --I am already hearing from friends who are so disappointed in that. Why do that? That does not unite anyone....only ticks off white people who have never been racists, but may be assumed to be simply for being white. Obama should have NEVER allowed this kind of statement. I do not treat any color differently than myself. I have a Chinese friend, a black friend, a Mexican friend. When we have all come so far, to dig up the past in this way is not good. I have even experienced reverse racism when trying to get a job, yet I just deal with it. If Obama is a uniter, he needs to stop this reminder of race and act as if we are all the same color.
I bring the popcorn!!
Oh, the mental picture I get from that one!! 
Those of us who take Jesus Christ as our saviour.
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PLEASE take Jesus Christ as your Savior >>>
Take him the hell out of everyones politics, you narrow-minded ignoramus.
If you think Jesus would be on board for abortion...
you don't know Jesus. lol.
sPEAK THE NAME OF JESUS OUT LOUD
Amen, I agree with you.
Oh my! I have no words. Jesus would not be happy with you.
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Those who claim to have 'come to Jesus' as
Or else brainwashed.
Or both.
Victory In Jesus!! another sou. Baptist
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I don't presume to speak for Jesus either...
but I know that we legislate against murder. We legislate against theft. And in this case, legislated FOR abortion. In good conscience can't vote for a man who voted against the Born alive act. Lord knows I am going to have enough to explain some day without adding that to my list.
That is not the defining issue for me in this election tho. The far left wing socialist agenda...that is number 1.
You are correct, Jesus would not approve of it....
that being the case, I am equally sure He would not approve of abortion in any way, shape or form. Didn't he say "Suffer the little children to come unto me, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven" ? Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God? Who is more pure in heart that a child in the womb, I ask you.
That is only ONE of the reasons I will not vote for Barack Obama. He goes so far as to vote AGAINST treating a baby who managed to survive abortion, rather leave them to die in a soiled linen closet, alone, simply because that might somehow be used to get abortion rights reduced.
Someone has to take a stand for those babies. Shouldn't it be Christians?
lets all sing about Jesus
As MT you should know better. Are we talking about a procedure or the morning after pill?
Catholics think the Mirena is abortion, the birth control pill is abortion. You know what? If the republicans stay in charge, no one will have any money to take care of their kids. They will all be driving to Nebraska to drop them off. Give me a break. You want to prevent MURDER, go to Congo this week and preach to them!
Jesus also said "judge not lest ye be judged and let he who is without sin.....sm
cast the first stone. I am not a liberal, I am just not so rash and harsh when it comes to picking and choosing what liberty and freedon is, sometimes you DO have to put your own personal religious beliefs second, stand back, and try to play Solomon.....I am just concerned with true equity, I do not have to carry a banner or an "agenda", only a cherished belief system in my heart and soul, which I practice not only with righteousness, if that is what you want to call it, but with love, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness, very Christ-like beliefs, as I remember Scripture.
And you probably believe Jesus rode a dinosaur...whatever...nm
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number 1 Jesus freak here
I truly feel so bad for you guys. You look at us like we are crazy, hateful, wrong, and judgmental. You guys just dont get the big picture do you? That is such a shame.
Whacked out Jesus freaks?
Boy, what a clever girl you are. Did you string all those words together yourself?
Here's one:
Trashy little crack ho's.
You know, like all those girls getting abortions.
Waterboarding makes Jesus Cry
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that's great Muslims believe Jesus was a
messenger etc. etc. But Jesus was not a "messenger" he was the Holy, SINLESS, son of God sent to this earth to die for ALL that they may have salvation for all who believe. He his alive and on the throne. The Muslim "god" is dead and in the grave. Christianity is the only faith where the God is not in the grave but is alive forever.
if in doubt..bring up an old GT post
MT, I have never posted on the conservative board..because the responses would boil my blood. I dont know what post you are talking about..However, reading these posts this morning, one of your conservative *friends* posted about hoarding to American Woman, how she hoards information and then blasts away with old information from old posts..I have to tell ya, I laughed at that post cause, OMG, you guys, from the conservative board, have done nothing but bring up old posts that either I have posted or have been attributed to me, over and over and over and over and over and over..**If it doubt with nothing to say, bring up an old GT post**,
I figured that'd bring out the first-graders:)
Nice to know I'm not yet over-estimating the self-flagellating opposition.
I cannot bring myself to think they made it happen, but...sm
using the who stood to benefit/gain rule in solving a crime, there is room for suspicion. War is very profitable - world bankers and Halliburton? If they were incompetent, why were some promoted, and why aren't they standing trial for that? There are just too many unanswered questions, so I think in that sense they do need to reopen the investigation and do it properly. No one and I mean NO ONE will be getting away with killing 3000 Americans.
why did you even bring this up - looks like you are trying to start a fight
Everytime a subject is brought out you seem to like to interject a bash to Sam. I've been reading the posts and nowhere in response to my post here did I see sam post a "message with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating argument". I'm reading the responses to my post about issues and I'm not seeing one from sam called "let the games begin", so I have no idea what you are talking about. If your talking about another post awhile back, then start a new thread, but for Pete's sake don't drag it into mine. Forget sam - it looks like you are the one who is trying to start arguments. Leave your personal hatred out of this and be an adult for once. Posts like this I would expect from my 12 year old, but we are adults here. What's frustrating is to finally start reading about a lot of issues that both sides would like to know about and info they are sharing with us and then all of a sudden - bam, here comes your post bashing sam. I'm sitting here now looking at all the responses to my post and I'm not seeing the one you are talking about. Lets stick to issues and facts. It also sounds like some other posters want that too.
You bring up such a good point...
my partner drives a school bus in 2 areas, a very impoverished area, and then in the 'upper class' area, and he never gets over all the kindness and gifts he gets from the poorest of people during holidays, while the more affluent areas not even give nothing, they do not even treat him as a person.
I have noticed that during post office drives, you always see the most donated goods hanging on the mailboxes in poor neighborhoods, and very rarely anything from the huge gigantic housing developments. not to say they do not give but it really says SO MUCH.
we are musicians here where I live also and even the money-making machine bars and restaurants, they want to get everything free, they are making musicians around here go broke and do not care at all. they hold open mics and get everyone to play for free, while over-charging for every other little service, and give the musicians nothing, not even a free pop or coffee (or drink if you drink).
by the way, these establishments all boast they are christians/family establishments.
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