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depends in which poll you look at....

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-23
In Reply to: latest polls - Shera

and all within the margin of error.


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depends on what poll you are looking at
I've seen recent polls that put both Clinton and Obama about even with McCain when matched up together and others that show both of them come out ahead of McCain 5-10 points. Others then show McCain ahead. Polls are so subjective that you have to take them with a grain of salt. The most telling thing to me is that Democratic vote turnout has been twice that of Republican turnout in some areas, so no matter what people are saying in the polls, getting them to the voting booths in November is a different matter. The Democrats are energized and enthusiastic, flocking to the polls. The Republicans overall are leukwarm on McCain (and the party in general) and it's showing in unenthusiastic turnouts. This will play very well for whomever the Democratic candidate is in November.
It all depends on how you look at it....
Obama actually has 166,186 vote lead over Clinton in the popular vote -- 17,267,658 to 17,101,472. If Michigan's primary is included, where Clinton received 328,307 votes and Obama none due to the fact he removed his name from the ballot, Clinton takes a 162,123 vote lead.

It depends on who you believe.
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Depends on who you ask. It is okay according
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All depends on what you think a nut is, eh.
He is a well-respected researcher and author, who has gained a lot of confidence and respect of some of the finest minds on this planet. Sure he may have some books you don't agree with, but there are a lot of authors like that. Some books you enjoy others you don't. And if you don't do the research yourself how can you discount anything anyone who has spent 20 years researching has to say. Probably the same crowd that discounts scientists and climatologists who have been at their jobs for 40 and 50 years as kooks because they come out and tell you Algore doesn't know what the he!! he's talking about. I guess people would consider them "nuts" too. David Icke has a website where you can learn a lot of useful information.

I guess before JFK was assassinated if people were told there would be an assassination and it would come from within, people would have called them nuts too.

Actually, the people I consider nuts are the ones who will only listen to what is fed to them through the boob tube (Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, Limbaugh, Hannity, Colmes, etc) and the ones who will not listen to issues of importance but just follows the leader with their eyes closed, and anything they don't agree with or like they call nuts. I guess in their own minds by making fun and ridiculing others who don't agree with them they must feel elevated above all others - just another elite nut to me.

Sometimes you have to look with both eyes open to get to the truth.
Depends
what the definition of 'lobbyist' is.  Same as it depended what the definition of 'is' is.
It depends on the situation
I voted for Bush the first term. He was running against Gore. The country could not afford another 4 years of Clintons. I voted for Bush and I'm proud I did because it helped keep a known bafoon who didn't know squat diddly out of the white house. After Bush was elected a lot changed. I didn't want to vote for him again, yet the best the dems could do was give us Kerry???????? There were so many qualified people running. How that ninny got in there (must have been all those purple hearts). So I voted for Bush again. However I wasn't voting for Bush, I was voting against Kerry. That doesn't make me and others morons, it makes us well-informed voters. If it meant four more years with Bush in there then so be it, but I'll tell you something. With everything that has happened in the world these past eight years the US is lucky that Gore and Lerch were not in office. That's the way a lot of people feel.

Now we're in a totally different election. Both McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden are very different from their usual party people. This year is an unusually difficult election. Times are quite different than they were 4 and 8 years ago.

To tell someone they are a moron because they didn't vote for democrats? The other choice would have been even more moronic to vote for.

With everything that has happened I'll take Bush over Gore or Kerry anyday. And before anyone goes blaming him for everything that's happened - He's just a talking head being told what to do. If you want to blame anyone, blame the bafoons in his party (Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc to include the people who tell Bush what he's going to do).
I suppose it depends on who says it...sm
If she said it referring to herself....who cares.

If someone says it about Sarah Palin.....who cares, it will bounce off, as she is neither of those words.


What about when Obama talked about all the small town bitter people holding on to their guns and religion, in his San Francisco speech?

Was that bad? I think it was, and he disenfranchised a whole group of voters, to this day, who would not consider voting for him....

That is perhaps, the phrase that deRothchild was comparing to...not sure, but perhaps...



Sooooo.....to answer your question? which word is worse? Well, both of them are, and there's been plenty of name calling lately. It's getting tiresome, really.


Petty, spiteful, little name calling, which has run entirely too rampant lately in the media, not to mention on this board from time to time.


I think that depends on your definitition (sm)
of a *nice neighborhood.*  I don't judge neighborhoods by the cost of the houses, I judge them by the people who live there.  At present I live in an average-to-small house on a double lot.  Plenty of room for the backyard garden, cookouts, etc.  I have neighbors who I would not trade for the world.  So, if I had that kind of money I would probably stay right where I am.  I may, however, change that tile in the bathroom to marble and put that koi pond out back that I've been wanting for years....LOL.
I guess it depends on how you look

at it.  There are so many things that I don't agree with Obama on that I want him to fail.  If he is succeeds, I feel that our country will fail because we will go down a path that I don't agree with.  I want America to succeed but if Obama does everything he wants.....I don't see how America can succeed.  I mean no ill will to him and do not wish him any harm.  I just do not like the way he is handling things, spending money, etc.  The ideas that he has and the government assisted programs he wants to institute will not only bankrupt us even more but I feel are bad ideas because people shouldn't rely on government to live.  They need to rely on themselves.  I feel that these programs will not encourage personal responsibility or hard work.  It will reward irresponsible and lazy people.  It will crush the American dream.  So yes....in that sense....I want him to fail.  I don't want Americans to have to rely on government for everything.  I don't like the idea of our government getting bigger and controlling more and more things. 


I look at Obama and I see a typical politician.  He did nothing but try and make everyone feel all warm and tingly about change and hope and all he has done since he has been in office is lie one right after another.


I feel that if Obama succeeds in his personal agenda....America will fail. 


Depends on location.
If it is Podunk, Nowheresville--probably. If it is NYC or Boston or even someplace like Wichita--not so much.
It all depends upon the culture.

The hand-holding custom among  Arab men as they walk does not signify that they are on a 'date' but is a symbol of mutual respect and/or friendship. 


As far as greetings go, a handshake with direct eye contact is becoming more acceptable, but some ethnic customs do persist.  The European double-air-kiss is a greeting between equals (and pretentious New Yorkers).  Among Japanese the relative depth of bows acknowledges who has the superior rank, but both bow.  Bowing of one Arab to another or one European to another (not to be confused with a smart click of the heels and bob of the head, a sort of antiquated European salute) is a sign of subjugation. I am acknowledging you as my superior in rank.  I am your humble subject. 


There was only one guy bowing.  It was our president, and his upper body was nearly horizontal to the ground, far lower than shaking hands with a shorter man would seem to require.  I don't mind if Obama thinks he needs to appear friendly, I just don't want him acknowledging subservience. 


It depends on the legs! Why should and would
a woman with ugly legs expose them? Then it gets indecent and fugly. If the legs are nice it's acceptable.
Regarding what you state that the IQ depends
solely on the DNA, similar to the color of the eyes, height, etc.... ..I disagree. disagree. Therr is this theory that the realtive IQ score is already set at the age of 7 and cannot be improved. In my opinion it can be improved by ongoing education.

You should definitely try it.
When life begins depends on

someone's religious beliefs.  Not all people believe that life begins at conception.


I don't think the beliefs of any religious group over another religious group should be shown preference when it involves the law.


I guess it depends on your perspective...
if you are as far left as Obama, I guess CNN WOULD look conservative...lol. I guess it is in perspective. The point I was trying to make but obviously failed is that no one is going to learn anything if they only listen to one side...and people who automatically yell yeah you got that from Fox or Rush Limbaugh are exactly the kind of people I am talking about. You give an opinion, and if it differs from theirs it automatically came from Fox or Rush Limbaugh and that makes it wrong. I just wish people would not listen to the party line on either side and would use due diligence and research for themselves. The Obama website is not where to go to learn about Obama. The McCain website is not where to go to learn about McCain. Voting the party line is just too Pied Piperish for me. Although I am not and never was a Democrat, I have to applaud that PUMA bunch for having the gall to buck the system and fight for what they think is right. I am not crazy about their candidate either, but I admire their guts, and that is what America is about, by golly. Hil has every right to put her name in nomination at the convention and people who support her have their say. That being said, I noticed Obama caved on that and came out with that placating and to MY thinking condescending thing of "letting women and Clinton supporters feel vindicated." Yeah right...lol. He wants their votes. Period. Go PUMA!
guess it depends where you live because...
where we live, the entire region, all I see are small businesses starting up, then they are gone within a year, one after another, ghost towns in all the cities of empty businesses being literally destroyed by Wal-Mart et al.

There has to be a middle ground, and there has to be more tolerance or there will always be division more and more, rich or poor, and there will always be revolution and unrest.

and what are you talking about 'sharing' with people. you think paying taxes and contributing to road work, infrastructure, everything paid by taxes should be on the backs of poor people and middle class, which excuse me if I am wrong, but does middle class even exist anymore in reality or just in people's own truths of what they want to see.

we see every day more and more people down scaling their lifestyles, sacrificing whether to buy groceries or gas, more and more people cannot even get jobs because of credit checks and background checks (guess working now is also only for the elite, well-off people, and no one should ever be forigven for their past or allowed to progress). who then is promoting social programs - seems to me right now people are being pushed into eventually making all the same pay, fixed income.

...and excuse me forefathers but do did they think they could enslave people, force them to leave their own countries and families, tie them up and bring them to America, abuse them, torture them, treat them less than animals, and then have no responsibility for them.

this what people are calling 'sharing' with people less fortunate than ourselves was created here and we are left to resolve it.

I would rather have a leader in this country who would at least recognize it, try to fix it, then to just have the same old rhetoric and division, pushing people farther and farther apart so only a few people can make profits..

gotta run -

I am not sure what your family above would have to 'share' but I do respect your point of view...
Depends on what part of California - sm
it's like 2 states sometimes. The central portion of the state: Central Valley in the north, Orange County in the south, chock full of narrow-minded midwest transplants, many of whom are evangelical christians. The coast and mountains have more progressive and free-thinking people. (Also the more highly-educated, as a rule). You couldnt pay me to live anywhere but on the Calif. coast.
Depends on who he campaigned or voted for
If he wanted O in, it will probably be one-sided like all the rest. If he wanted McC in, it will be one-sided, too.  If he remained neutral, like newspeople SHOULD be, then it should be interesting.  I do like him, though.
I guess it depends on what affiliation you have.
It seems to me that there is just as much, if not more, bashing by Republicans/conservatives as I see directed towards them. In actuality it is probably fairly evenly split.


depends on how you measure success I guess....
He only got a 4-5 point bounce in the polls and lost that the next week. Not all Americans were impressed with his "citizen of the world" speech. There are those of us who wonder where his real allegiance lies. No wonder.

By the way, when I say "hoohah" I don't mean the word you refer to. Apparently it does not mean the same thing in my neck of the woods. If I want to intimate the 4-letter word I would certainly do it more directly...not my style.

There is no way that little speech in Germany was "diplomacy." And gee, call me old-fashioned, but I think if you are running for Pres of the US, you should give your political speeches HERE.

I did not demand, nor have I heard anyone else demand that Obama admit the surge is working. It is obvious that it is. The fact that he chooses to ignore it does not give me any more faith in his ability to run the country or take care of national security issues, and makes me doubt his honesty. As to being true to his beliefs...didn't take him long to throw his lifelong friend and mentor the Reverend Wright under the bus for political expediency. There's that trust thing again.

How anyone can say, faced with all the info out there about him and how he handled the Wright thing (which was in name only, you don't stay in a church for 20 years that is built on black liberation theology if you don't believe it)...and say with a straight face he is being true to his beliefs.

Well, I take that back...he IS being true to his hard left socialist/Marxist beliefs. Already wants to redistribute wealth aka economic parity, a big element of the black liberatin theology...by taxing oil companies and redistributing their profits to people who did nothing to earn it. How much more socialist approaching Marxist could you possibly be? In that, yes, I would agree...he is being true to his socialist/Marxist beliefs. You got me there.
I guess it depends on your view of the beginning of
is life. I'm not advocating third or even second trimester abortions but believe me it's far better for a woman to abort a child than have one that won't care for it. Take Casey Anthony, for example...
We need to vote as if our entire future depends on it,
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All depends on what news you watch, polls
are all over the place
Depends on what you call racist I suppose
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I didn't say that depends on what the definition of "IF"
There is a big difference between IF and WHEN. IF I said "...If I go to the store" or "...when I go to the store" IF means I may go to the store, WHEN means I WILL go to the store.

The other poster said that Mccain was saying he was going to be president and I pointed out that so did Obama and I gave PROOF from his OWN site.


It all depends on what news station you listen to
I talked to my best friend the other day (whom I met when I was in the Army). Her husband is in Iraq. Her son is in Afghanastan, and her daughter is in Iraq. None of them like war (who does) but the consensus among them and their fellow soldiers is that it is worth it. Do they want the war to end, heck yeah. Do they want to come home, heck yeah. Do they want to give up everything they've been fighting for. NO WAY! They say if they leave now everything they have done to help the people of Iraq will all have been for nothing. They want to stay until the job is finished and not any sooner. They say if we don't do this it will be left up to our children, our nieces and nephews to take care of when they get older.

It all depends on who you listen to for news. Of course MSNBC, CNN and other liberal news agencies say its a mistake we should not be there, need to come home now. But my freinds said her husband and two kids and all their fellow soldiers say stay until the job is done. For every soldier on video saying we shouldn't be here, etc, etc., there is another soldier like the one in the OPs link that say, don't tell us its not worth it.
Depends on the mistake. Making the case for war in Iraq on a stack of
lies from Curveball, not your everyday ooops.

As if.
Diaper Dave in airport rage "Do You Know Who I Am?" umm...depends

Report Of Vitter In Airport Rage: Do You Know Who I Am?!!




Roll Call reports that Sen. David Vitter (R-LA), the staunch social conservative whose career became bogged down in the 2007 D.C. Madam prostitution scandal, was sighted this past Thursday night having an incident of airport rage at Dulles Airport.


Vitter arrived 20 minutes before the plane was scheduled to depart, and found the gate locked. He then opened the door, setting off the alarm and inviting the attention of an airline worker:


Vitter, our spy said, gave the airline worker an earful, employing the timeworn "do-you-know-who-I-am" tirade that apparently grew quite heated.

That led to some back and forth, and the worker announced to the irritable Vitter that he was going to summon security.

Vitter, according to the witness, remained defiant, yelling that the employee could call the police if he wanted to and their supervisors, who, presumably, might be more impressed with his Senator's pin.

But after talking a huffy big game, Vitter apparently thought better of pushing the confrontation any further. When the gate attendant left to find a security guard, Vitter turned tail and simply fled the scene.

Late Update: Vitter is now responding to the story, after a spokesman declined to comment in the initial reports:


"After being delayed on the Senate floor ensuring a vote on my anti-pay-raise amendment and in a rush to make my flight home for town hall meetings the next day, I accidentally went through a wrong door at the gate," Vitter said in a statement. "I did have a conversation with an airline employee, but it was certainly not like this silly gossip column made it out to be."

I took the poll...sm
Sounds like Lewis needs to stay in the house unless the owner is with him. That should solve the problem.
Poll
It is
50 for Obama
43 for McCain
how about the AP poll...
Which shows the two candidates dead even? and if the polls are accurate, how come every one of them has different numbers? And furthermore, they only show the people who responded; I know I got several calls and I don't tell any stranger on the phone who I am voting for. This is my business and only mine. so don't be naive enough to think the polls are the be-all and end-all. look at how many times the polls have shown one candidate as a clear frontrunner who then went on to lose the election.
there was a poll on here
not too long ago and if I remember correctly, at least at the time I saw it, the majority on here seemed to be with McCain; of course I don't take polls too seriously either. TATA... Enjoy your week!!! :)
How about a poll?
Some of us who choose Obama have posted our reasons for doing so.  How about you pubs posting your REAL reasons for voting for McCain.  What do you think (or hope) McCain will do for you and all of us?
poll
You asked for whom we were voting for. I didn't realize my choice wasn't sincere since I didn't give an explanation in the post. I've stated my reasons enough on this board. Also, I'm not Republican, rather Independent.

I'm not being snippy in this post. I just wanted to state why I didn't post my reason under my vote. :)

I'm voting for McCain, but I think Obama is going to win in all honestly.
The man at the poll said
I just wore jeans, orange top with lighter orange sweater. The guy helping at the poll had to pull the top part of my ballot off before I stuck it in the machine. He said: "Now I've just got to rip your top off ... I mean the top of your ballot." :)

Gorgeous here today!! Low 70s, I think. (Michigan)

Sorry - that was not my poll -
I did not post a poll before that I remember. And in case you have not been reading my posts for the last months, I voted for Obama the first day my county would allow me to vote...
Particularly a CNN poll.
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This poll truly makes me ill....sm
85% Of Troops In Iraq Think Saddam Was Involved In 9/11, 77% Think Supported Al-Qaeda.

You can't blame them either. I cannot imagine what it be like to know what they are doing over there is all connected to nothing but BS. The cognitive dissonance would be unbearable.

Re: Poll/Survey sm
There are a lot of concerns and issues facing the nation at this time and for some reason my gut tells me substance will be the major factor in the next election, at least I hope so. Thus far the two candidates that have caught my attention are Obama and Romney, but the election is quite a ways off and I need to do more research. Anyway I hope that religion/hairstyles/past lovers, etc., take a back seat to substance/ability/issues in the next election.
You might want to check your poll
.
USA Today poll

9/5 - 9/7


McCain 54


Obama 44


 


Actually....this is the actual poll...
While Republicans and Democrats predictably favor their party’s candidate by overwhelming margins, the experience gap among voters unaffiliated with either party is even narrower than the national totals. Forty-two percent (42%) say Obama has better experience to be president, but 37% say Palin does.

These are unaffiliated voters....37% of which say she has more experience to be President. That is just a 5% difference...not 61%.

Ahem.
Every poll is a sample of what is to come...this is no different...sm
from the polls out there now. I would guess the ones that didn't contribute are physically incapacitated in some way due to the effects of fighting the WRONG war. We went after the WRONG people just to try and make a war hero out of a president who ran his companies down to the ground and now he did the same with our country and his best friend McSame will do the same. He can't even decide which mantra to go by for his campaign...first it was experience, then country first and now change...he's trying to copy Obama because he knows Obama is right.
A simple poll, sm
Who Would You Hire

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?





With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an ***unusually critical*** election year.





Let's look at the educational background of your two options:




McCain:


United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899





& Palin:



Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester



North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study



University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism



Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester



University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism 



(verified through Anchorage Daily News adn.com  1981-1987.  5 schools in 6 years! 



 vs.


Obama:



Occidental College - Two years.



Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.



Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude



 & Biden:



University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.



Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)



Now, which team are you going to "hire" ? 


On which poll? They all vary. (sm)
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Internet poll...
Firstly of all, it is the result of an Internet poll.
Secondly TAKE IT EASY.
Cut out the RAGE.
Add your vote to the poll down below
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POLL TIME!
What did all you political activists wear to the polls today?  

This WHITE-haired old gal made her own personal, albeit subtle, political statement by wearind a RED sweater with my BLUE jeans. 
New CNN poll results
Not to shabby after his week from he!!.
Gallup Poll
Approval of Congress Hits 4-year High, Fueled by Dems

 

by Jeffrey M. Jones


PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' job approval rating of Congress is up an additional 8 points this month, after a 12-point increase last month, and now stands at 39% -- the most positive assessment of Congress since February 2005.


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Americans who identify themselves as Democrats are mostly responsible for the improved ratings of Congress measured in the March 5-8 Gallup Poll. After showing a 25-point increase in their approval of Congress from January to February and a further 14-point increase in March, a majority of Democrats (57%) now approve of the job the Democratically-controlled Congress is doing. Independents also show improved ratings of Congress, but not nearly to the extent that Democrats do. Republicans' evaluations of Congress have changed very little this year.


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Quick Turnaround


Even though Congress' job approval rating is still low on an absolute basis, the recent ratings represent a quick turnaround from the historically low ratings of 2008. Last year, on average, only 19% of Americans approved of the job Congress was doing -- one of the three lowest yearly congressional approval averages in Gallup records dating back to 1974, along with 1979 (19%) and 1992 (18%).


In January of this year, Congress' job approval rating among remained low at 19%, before jumping to 31% in February after the change in presidential administrations from Republican George W. Bush to Democrat Barack Obama. But this month brings an even more positive evaluation of Congress, with 39% of Americans now approving.


The latest increase suggests the reason for the improved ratings of Congress in 2009 may go beyond simply the change from split control to one-party control of the federal government, to include an assessment of the work Congress has been doing with the new president on the economy and other issues.


Such an explanation seems plausible given that a majority of Democrats now approve of the job Congress is doing, and that the gap between Democratic and Republican approval of Congress is growing, as Congress passes and President Obama signs laws to deal with the economy and other issues that largely follow a Democratic philosophy of governing.


Even though the Democratic Party had majority control of both houses of Congress in 2007-2008, it was able to achieve little of its legislative agenda while Republican Bush remained in the White House. This lack of results may have soured Democrats' opinions of Congress. During this time, rank-and-file Democrats' approval ratings of Congress sank to as low as 11% in July 2008, after starting out near 40% shortly after the party took control of Congress in early 2007.


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Now that the strengthened Democratic-controlled Congress is able to pass most of what it wants with little or no help from Republicans, and can count on the president to sign it into law, rank-and-file Democrats hold Congress in much greater esteem. The 57% approval rating for Congress among Democrats is the best the party has given the institution since March 2002, when Congress' job approval scores were at historical highs in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.


Survey Methods


Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,012 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted March 5-8, 2009. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.


Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).


In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.