ohhhh so now that I found the refundable language you were looking for...
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: Please refer to mine and give me - those missing answers....sm
now you are yiping double standard.
Does McCain's tax credit for health care remove someone's federal tax liability? No.
Is it aimed specifically at the "bottom?" No.
Not even remotely the same. Obama has said himself...spread the wealth. Start from the bottom up. Redistribute that wealth. Have you looked at his history at all? Of course not...wouldn't want that idol to have clay feet.
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Still can't come up with that refundable credit language?
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Ohhhh the Big Bush eye, ohhhh
be afraid, be very afraid....ohhh...hide under your bed, quick
Um, ahh, ummmm, ohhhh, well, hmmm
I think I know why he doesn't want to do the town hall meetings.
You yammered for the refundable....
because you thought I was lying. I delivered, and you change the subject. Why are we beating this dead horse? You would vote for him if he said you should give 80% of your income to your neighbor because it is the patriotic thing to do. LOL. Geez.
Look. I took Obama at his word. He said spread the wealth, so the guys "under you" have a chance. And from that you think he means "adjusting tax rates within our historical progressive tax structure." How is giving someone a credit that eliminates their federal tax liability NOT socialist? does McCain's refundable tax credit remove federal tax liability from anyone?
Bringing the refundable tax credits to the top,,,
Took some looking, but found it.
o A $1,000 “Making Work Pay” Tax Credit. For 95 percent of workers and their families—150 million
workers overall—the “Making Work Pay” credit will provide a refundable tax cut of $500 for workers or
$1,000 for working couples. This credit will benefit over 15 million self employed workers and for 10
million low-income Americans, will completely eliminate their federal income taxes.
o A Refundable $4,000 American Opportunity Tax Credit. Barack Obama will provide a $4,000 fully refundable
tax credit to ensure that college is affordable for all American families. This credit will cover
100% of the first $4,000 of qualified tuition expenses, making community college essentially free and
covering about 2/3 of the cost of public 4-year college.iv
o A Universal 10% Mortgage Interest Tax Credit. Barack Obama will provide a 10% refundable credit to
offset mortgage interest payments and make homeownership more affordable for lower- and middle-income
families. This universal credit will provide an average tax cut of $500 to 10 million homeowners who do not itemize.
I see refundable in there a few times. And there you have the low income folks who will, with the help of this "credit," ELIMINATE their federal taxes. Who is going to take up that slack?
They asked for the word refundable.....
and I supplied it. You missed the part about the credit Completely eliminating federal income tax for low income families? get a cREDIT which ELIMINATES tax liability?? You missed that part??
Please explain how the refundable tax credit...
that was outlined from his own documentation, that states the credit will eliminate federal taxes for 10 million low income workers...figures into that table. And then explain to me how taxing others higher than those low income folks to make up the loss of that revenue is not marxist re-distribution of wealth. Thank you.
How about that larger refundable tax credit of McCain's?
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Cut the language out. (sm)
It isn't your God-given right on this site, which is privately owned.
Coarse opinions we can tolerate but leave the language out.
Moderator
Semitic language
The Semitic language is spoken in a variety of dialects spoken by nearly 200 million people. One branch is Hebrew, another is Arabic to name a few. Just because Barack's name means "blessing" does not mean anything.
Learning a second language.
You raised some important points on which I would like to comment. If you are an MT, some of this will already be familiar to you, since we all have gone through the process of acquiring advanced medical language skills.
My husband speaks 5 languages (Farsi (L), Armenian, Greek, German (L) and English (L), and is literate (L) in 3. We met in 1990 as pen pals, a hobby he had adopted to facilitate acquiring and refining his literacy in English. From what he tells me and what I learned from this process, there seem to be certain distinct stages of learning and using another language.
Formal classes or other types of instruction to learn basic vocabulary, phonetics, entymology, grammar/syntax, reading, writing and comprehension, both written and verbal.
Practice, practice and practice some more. Use it or lose it. Typically, beyond the basics, the student will progress through the easiest to the most difficult skills in stages. The first 4 basics (stage 1), followed by the next 2 (stage 2), then written/reading and verbal comprehension (stage 3).
Verbal comprehension in and of itself is also a 2-stage process. In that final stage, most often the student will understand the foreign language much more easily (and for a much longer period of time) when it is spoken to them or around them. The most difficult stage of foreign language usage is the final stage of actually being able to produce coherent conversation with confidence.
Most of us never really get beyond the classroom/instruction level. It is a real challenge to find the time and the stage on which the remainder of the process can be played out. Here are a few ideas on how to overcome that obstacle.
· Finding venues for Spanish acquisition is pretty easy. Watch TV in that language. Start out with children’s programs and advance according to your comfort level.
· Rent movies. The ones with subtitles are particularly helpful.
· Listen to music and/or radio stations.
· Read books. Again, start with children’s and work your way up.
· Put yourself in environments where that language is being used. Perhaps you could volunteer to tutor an ESL student who speaks your language of interest. Church services, ethnic restaurants, public events, etc. Speaking events, such as public political forums, where both languages may be spoken are particularly helpful.
· Find an on-line language partner. See below.
· Make friends with someone who speaks that language.
· Find a pen pal.
Here are a few resources:
- ESL Idea Generator. Great ideas on how to teach English as a second language. Find access to a language partner and you and your partner could try some of these suggestions. It is really fun to do…kind of like a game of charades.
http://iteslj.org/Techniques/Houston-TeachingIdeas.html
http://www.sharedtalk.com/index.aspx?SRC=GAds.SN.en.Language.Exchange&gclid=CIqy8JrcyZQCFSEragodImWSkw
- TT 4 You On-Line Language Exchange. Voice chat forum / enhance conversation skills. Handy translation query text box
http://www.tt4you.com/
Most importantly, keep is casual and fun.
Foreign language
Forgot to say that my foreign language was Latin and my memory is about as dead as the language.
the English language - that's
what I HAVE. Comes in handy with my job.
Is English your third language or what?
Sheep are easily fleeced. Oh-baaaaaaaaaa-ma.
I don't believe that the language of your parents. sm
has anything to do with being qualified to be the POTUS. We are about to have a POTUS whose father was not a US citizen.
Well, there you have it, the language of obama
when is a tax not a tax? when it is a cost of living increase brought on by government regulations that are expensive to comply with.
when are promises made to be broken? when they are airy-fairy generalities made in order to buy votes. *no tax increase* can now be claimed to have meant about anything. he will claim he meant no income tax increase, but didn't mean: no tobacco tax, gasoline tax, excise tax, tax on internet, etc.
how silly all of you are who voted for obama thinking you would have more money in your pockets (taken from the wealthy), healthcare would be free and manna would fall from heaven. you fell for the biggest sucker play in history.
Well, there you have it, the language of obama
when is a tax not a tax? when it is a cost of living increase brought on by government regulations that are expensive to comply with.
when are promises made to be broken? when they are airy-fairy generalities made in order to buy votes. *no tax increase* can now be claimed to have meant about anything. he will claim he meant no income tax increase, but didn't mean: no tobacco tax, gasoline tax, excise tax, tax on internet, etc.
how silly all of you are who voted for obama thinking you would have more money in your pockets (taken from the wealthy), healthcare would be free and manna would fall from heaven. you fell for the biggest sucker play in history.
I NEVER START with rude language,
I only REACT to it.
Like SELF-DEFENCE. ever heard of this?
You only complain about 'bad language' if it's aimed at
!
Obama's New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo...sm
Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper
From the Fact Check Desk: Obama's New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo
September 17, 2008 5:53 PM
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has launched a new Spanish-language TV ad that seeks to paint Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., as anti-immigrant, even tying the Republican to his longtime conservative talk-radio nemesis Rush Limbaugh.
As first reported by the Washington Post, Obama's ad features a narrator saying: "They want us to forget the insults we’ve put up with…the intolerance…they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much."
The screen then shows these two quotes from Limbaugh:
“…stupid and unskilled Mexicans”
—Rush Limbaugh
"You shut your mouth or you get out!”
—Rush Limbaugh
The narrator then says, “John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote…and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain…more of the same old Republican tricks.”
There are some real factual problems with this ad, which is titled “Dos Caras,” or two faces.
First of all, tying Sen. McCain – especially on the issue of immigration reform – to Limbaugh is unfair.
Limbaugh opposed McCain on that issue. Vociferously. And in a larger sense, it’s unfair to link McCain to Limbaugh on a host of issues since Limbaugh, as any even occasional listener of his knows, doesn’t particularly care for McCain.
Second, the quotes of Limbaugh’s are out of context.
Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, "If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
Not one of his most eloquent moments, to be sure, but his larger point was that NAFTA would mean that unskilled stupid Mexicans would be doing the jobs of unskilled stupid Americans.
I’m not going to defend how he said it, but to act as if this was just a moment of Limbaugh slurring Mexicans is not accurate. Though again, certainly if people were offended I could understand why.
The second quote is totally unfair. In 2006, Limbaugh was mocking Mexican law, and he wrote:
“Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it The Limbaugh Laws:
“First: If you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor; no unskilled workers allowed. Also, there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws. No special ballots for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold political office.
“If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare, food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here: an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land, it'll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to the property.
“And another thing: You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our President or his policies. You're a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you're going to jail.
“You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today! That' how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets!
“How do you say ‘double standard’ in Spanish? How about: ‘No mas!’”
But even if one is uninclined to see Limbaugh's quotes as having been taken unfairly out of context, linking them to McCain makes as much sense as running a quote from Bill Maher and linking it to Obama.
Asked for backup as to how Obama could link McCain to Limbaugh, the campaign provided this interview with McCain refusing to condemn the Minutemen from from the Kansas City Star:
Q: ‘Are they a good thing? The Civil Defense Corps, do you think -- do they help in the immigration fight, or not?’
A: ‘I think they're citizens who are entitled to being engaged in the process. They're obviously very concerned about immigration.’
Q: ‘Are they helpful?’
A: ‘I think that's up to others to judge. I don't agree with them, but they certainly are exercising their legal rights as citizens.’
Asked about the “lies” they’re accusing McCain of telling, the Obama campaign provided evidence that McCain in July 2008 told LA Raza that he would have voted for the DREAM act, a bill that provides scholarships for the children of illegal immigrants, even thought he earlier in the campaign season said he would have voted against the bill.
Let’s delver further into this.
In the November 2007, Myrtle Beach Sun-News, McCain said of the DREAM Act, which he had cosponsored in the past, "I think it has certain virtues associated with it. And I think other things have virtues associated with it. But the message is they want the borders secured first."
The newspaper noted that McCain said he’d vote against a temporary worker program, even though he supports the idea. "I will vote against anything until we secure the borders," he said. "There is no way we're going to enact piecemeal immigration reform."
Before La Raza, McCain was asked by a young Latina if he’d support the DREAM Act, and he said, “Yes. Yes.”
The full exchange, however, goes like this:
QUESTIONER: Hi. I’m a part of One Dream 2009 and I am one of the 6 million who either have an undocumented parent or is undocumented and I wanted to know if you would support humanity all around the world and support our Dream Act that we are trying to pass.
MCCAIN: Yes. Yes. Thank you. But I will also enforce the existing laws of a country. And a nation’s first requirement is the nation’s security, and that’s why we have to have our borders secured. But, we can have a way and a process of people obtaining citizenship in this country. And, we cannot penalize people who come here legally and people who wait legally. And so, that’s a fundamental principle on which we have to operate. Thank you.
The Obama campaign also provided a number of seemingly conflicting comments McCain has made about offering greater funding for education programs in the No Child Left Behind act -- telling the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials in June that he “would fully fund those programs that have never been fully funded,” while not suggesting any greater funding for the bill when he’s talked about education in front of whiter audiences.
That ignores the fact that McCain has suggested reallocating the way the $23 billion for NCLB is spent.
McCain has changed his rhetoric and his emphasis when discussing immigration after almost losing the GOP presidential nomination because of it.
He now says the borders must be secured before anything else happens. And in that, he’s opened himself up to charges of flip-flopping, though the Obama campaign is quoting him selectively and unfairly to make their points.
The greater implication the ad makes, however, is that McCain is no friend to Latinos at all, beyond issues of funding the DREAM act or how NCLB money is distributed. By linking McCain to Limbaugh’s quotes, twisting Limbaugh’s quotes, and tying McCain to more extremist anti-immigration voices, the Obama campaign has crossed a line into misleading the viewers of its new TV ad. In Spanish, the word is erróneo.
-- jpt
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/from-the-fact-1.html
Now you're speaking my language. Single parenthood
world void of credit cards. Never used one. Not once. Have only paid off one car loan in my entire (long) life...the rest of it, cash and carry, pay as you go. Paid for my condo that way and became proud owner of Acura 2.2 CL in the absence of interest back in the 90s, good ole days from where I sit now. Passed these survival skills along to my son. Credit crunch has left us unscathed. We are wondering how the rest of the folks will fare once the recession (let's not quibble and say it OUT LOUD) sets in. Guess they will have to see what it feels like to live like the great unwashed underbelly. We expect the tables will turn on some of them but will be happy to help them out and give them a "hand up," when the time comes.
freedom of speech excludes and stops at slander and foul language...sm
You are slandering the President of the United States out of ignorance, shame on you!
Where is this written in the Constitution that it is allowed to grossly insult the President?
Even if I disagree with the decisions of the President, I would NEVER slander him.
I am an independent, not a liberal, and I never slandered Bush, although I very much disagreed with him.
Therefore there are presidential elections set every 4 years, when we can elect another President, but we are disrespecting ourselves by slandering the President the majority of the population voted.
And you are calling yourselves
American citizens?
What a hypocrisy.
You are insulting the incumbent President of the United States of America and it is not even PROVEN that he made mistakes up until now. That you disagree with him, does not make it a mistakes from O's side. Or do you want to say that you are better qualified to be the President of the United States?
Can you all look into the future, like Nostradamus?
What I found so far
I see where Perle and Rice take exception to some of his statements, but that's all I could find. And I guess that would expected as they do have to protect themselves. Also, it's very hard to find opinions that do not have a noticeable right or left slant. If anyone out there has suggestions on middle-of-the-road, non-politically-sided information sites please let me know.
My point was how many people have to step forward and report that the White House manipulated the truth before it gets addressed? How many can you dismiss as saying they had a book to sell, or they were protecting their careers, etc.? At what point does some of what they are saying (Clark, Tenet, Powell to name a few) become believable?
I found it for myself sm
An eagle-eyed reporter for the ABC affiliate in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, noticed something missing from Democratic presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., lapels.
"You don't have the American flag pin on. Is that a fashion statement?" the reporter asked, at the end of a brief interview with Obama on Wednesday. "Those have been on politicians since Sept. 12, 2001."
Catch David Wright's report tonight on "World News with Charles Gibson."
The standard political reply to that question might well have been, "My patriotism speaks for itself."
But Obama didn't say that.
Instead the Illinois senator answered the question at length, explaining that he no longer wears such a pin, at least in part, because of the Iraq War.
"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest.
"Instead," he said, "I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism."
In Iowa, some Obama supporters applauded the candidate's fashion statement. Said Carrie Haurum of Waterloo: "He doesn't need to wear that flag on his lapel. He wears it in his heart."
But talk radio and cable news quickly pounced on the issue.
"It just shows you he's not ready for the big time," conservative Laura Ingrams opined on Fox News.
Said Sean Hannity: "Why do we wear pins? Because our country is under attack!"
The Obama campaign declined to expand on the senator's statement. Spokesman Bill Burton said, "His comments speak for themselves."
But, Obama responded to the mini controversy.
"I'm less concerned with what you're wearing on your lapel than what's in your heart," Obama said Thursday while campaigning in Independence, Iowa.
"You show your patriotism by how you treat your fellow Americans, especially those who serve. And you show your patriotism by being true to your values and ideals. And that's what we have to lead with, our values and ideals," Obama said.
Of course, if he had said that in the first place, he might have avoided any controversy.
I found this almost sad...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml
found what I found..
This was actually on the wall street journal on line this morning. It was edited in. Here is what I found: Unfortunately, I can't provide the link; sorry. This is a quote from it, though.
"Take a closer look. It's a jpg screenshot of a webpage, easily edited. Seeing as they're running pidgin instant messenger in the background, I'd guess that the GIMP is probably the likely photo editing software of choice."
Bth of which can be found there.
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I found this....sm
I could only find these two. The first video won't play, and had this line on it. And when I put the whole line in google, I got the aol video.
"Senator Obama proposes a tax credit in the form of a check in the mail for mortgage interests, college tuition savings, childcare, clean cars, earned income tax credit to be expanded, a make-work-pay credit. All of these credits will be refundable to those people who don't pay taxes anyway in the form of a check in the mail. 63 million Americans would pay no federal income tax whatsoever, and most of them would get a check in the mail every January."
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=196103
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/obamas-tax-plan-annual-tax-credit-check-for-tens-of-millions-of-filers-who-dont-pay-tax/3755547671/?icid=VIDURVGOV06
Okay....it took some looking but I found it....
o A $1,000 “Making Work Pay” Tax Credit. For 95 percent of workers and their families—150 million
workers overall—the “Making Work Pay” credit will provide a refundable tax cut of $500 for workers or
$1,000 for working couples. This credit will benefit over 15 million self employed workers and for 10
million low-income Americans, will completely eliminate their federal income taxes.
o A Refundable $4,000 American Opportunity Tax Credit. Barack Obama will provide a $4,000 fully refundable
tax credit to ensure that college is affordable for all American families. This credit will cover
100% of the first $4,000 of qualified tuition expenses, making community college essentially free and
covering about 2/3 of the cost of public 4-year college.iv
o A Universal 10% Mortgage Interest Tax Credit. Barack Obama will provide a 10% refundable credit to
offset mortgage interest payments and make homeownership more affordable for lower- and middle-income
families. This universal credit will provide an average tax cut of $500 to 10 million homeowners who do not itemize.
I see refundable in there a few times. And there you have the low income folks who will, with the help of this "credit," ELIMINATE their federal taxes. Who is going to take up that slack?
THERE is the bottom we were hunting.
Happy now?
Here's what I found
1. The 57 states. I think that was an honest mistake. I had not actually heard him say that, but that is not one of the main issues we were talking about. Him saying 57 states was not talked about very much and not one of the main concerns we had. Anyway...I think O just made an honest mistake, but here is the video clip.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
2. His muslim quote. The way you phrase it by wanting to see at least one minute prior and after the quote I already know you're going to come back and say that is going to be a slip of the tongue. I'll grant you that - it could have been, and then again it could have not been. If Stephanopolis had not said anything it would have been let go. Again, it could have been a slip of the tongue and people will believe one way or the other. The only people who know if he is really a muslim or christian is him and his family. But then again how many muslims sit and say "my christian faith" by accident. Do you think in Iran or Libya or any of the middle eastern countries they would ever say "my christian faith" by accident. I don't think so, just like you don't hear christians accidently slip and say my muslim faith or my jewish faith. Particularly I don't care if he's christian, muslim, jewish, hindu or athiest. When people talk about their faith, they usually say what their true faith is. Also you will see in this video that Stephanopolis was defending McCain and said that McCain was not going after Obama because of his faith. He kept repeating it over and over that McCain is not going after him because of his faith, but Obama kept ignoring and making it to look like the "poor me they're going after me", and like your original post said if its not true you can't make it up. But then again that would not have given him much sympathy from voters by admitting McCain left the religion out of the campaign.
Anyway...because you wanted to videotape here is it.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I
Just let me know what other lies you imply we were saying so I can provide credible sources for you.
I usually like him, but found this very
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Found it. See inside.
I'm forwarding this to Alan Combs, Greta Van Sustern (sp) and Bill O'Rielly. Thanks.
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AIKEN -- The 6-year-old Aiken girl who'd been dead for up to 14 hours before being taken to a hospital was beaten to death, authorities said Thursday.
And the woman who called Chaquise Gregory her life and her baby is being charged with homicide in the child's death.
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Aiken County Department of Public Safety officers lead a handcuffed Kathy Salley away from her residence in the 500 block of Abbeville Avenue. She is charged with homicide by child abuse.
Aiken police arrested Kathy Salley, 26, at her Aiken home Thursday evening and booked her into the Aiken County Deten¤tion Center.
She'll be charged with homicide by child abuse this morning, Aiken Public Safety Sgt. David Turno said.
Police arrested Ms. Salley on an outstanding warrant for fraudulent checks to get her in jail, he said.
An autopsy found that Chaquise, who'd moved to a home in the 500 block of Abbeville Avenue in Aiken with Ms. Salley in May or early June, died from a severe beating, he said.
Authorities had already revealed that Chaquise had been dead between 10 and 14 hours when Ms. Salley took her to an Aiken hospital June 23.
"That's all we can tell you," Sgt. Turno said. "I do not believe they're going to go into the full evidence of the case, but we do know it was from a severe beating."
Aiken County Coroner Tim Carlton said he couldn't release many details about what killed Chaquise, except that the beating "caused some internal-type malfunction in the body that caused her death."
Mr. Carlton said there were no drugs found in the child's system, but "there were some older injuries that we're looking into that may or may not have been related to previous abuse."
The autopsy found no broken bones, but there was evidence of past breaks.
Mr. Carlton said the initial results indicate that the child was not sexually abused, but he would not rule it out completely.
She was not molested "that I'm aware of at this point," he said.
Capt. Maryann Burgess, who has been the investigator in the case, said she can't say how many others may have been involved in Chaquise's death or what charges they face.
"We know where they are," she said.
She said investigators also have not been able to verify that Ms. Salley had legal custody of Chaquise, which she claimed.
If convicted of homicide by child abuse, Ms. Salley faces between 20 years in prison and a life sentence.
In an interview with The Augus¤ta Chronicle on June 27 - five days after Chaquise was pronounced dead - Ms. Salley denied any wrongdoing in her death. Ms. Salley said she'd raised Chaquise since she was 3 years old.
"She was the only child I could ever have," she said, and questioned how the girl's biological family could think she was responsible.
Ms. Salley hinted that another person living with her and Chaquise - and who m she said she'd left the child with the night before - may have had something to do with the little girl's death.
"I can't point fingers when I don't know what went on in this house while I was gone," she'd said.
According to preliminary autopsy results that were released soon after her death, Chaquise had been dead between 10 and 14 hours before Ms. Salley took her to Aiken Regional Medical Centers.
Capt. Burgess said the additional autopsy results she received Wednesday led to Ms. Salley's arrest.
Ms. Salley told The Chronicle that authorities found bruises on Chaquise's arm and bottom, and cigarette burns on her shoulder and back.
Mr. Carlton said investigators are still trying to determine whether those marks were cigarette burns.
"It's just a tragic incident that was visited on a defenseless child," Mr. Carlton said. "And if the allegations are all true, then we certainly hope that the law and criminal justice system will be the defender of this child's rights."
I did some research on this and what I found is that he DID NOT
get paid for this case, it was pro bono.
"Roberts' work on the case was one of several he helped handle as part of his pro bono work at Hogan & Hartson, a prominent Washington law firm that expected its partners to volunteer their time to assist in community service.
Source - LA Times
In his answers to the Senate questionnaire, Roberts talked more generally about his volunteer work.
"My pro bono legal activities were not restricted to providing services for the disadvantaged," he wrote, explaining that he often donated his time and expertise on projects by working behind the scenes."
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Uy77hebjJ60J:www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi%3FArtNum%3D103923+roberts+paid+pro+bono&hl=en
I found the answer.
It supposedly was a mistake, and it's been changed. Unfortunately, the groups involved in complaining about this are much less than credible, and it's impossible for me to just take what they say at face value. I don't believe they're above just inventing propaganda just so they can blame it all on the immoral liberals.
If it truly was a mistake, it was a stupid mistake, and I'm glad they fixed it. It's too bad that I just don't know who I can believe and who I can trust any more. 
Barbie Accused of Being Part of the Transgender Movement
By JAKE TAPPER
WASHINGTON, D.C., Jan. 3, 2006 — - The Concerned Women for America were ... well, concerned. Outraged, even. Was Barbie becoming part of the transgender movement?
On Dec. 30, CWA, a leading Christian conservative group, noted on its Web site that on the Barbie Web site, www.Barbie.com, there is a poll that asks children their age and sex.
You can see a screen grab of the poll here.
The age choices were 4 to 8 but children are given three options for their choice of gender: I am a Boy, I am a Girl and I Don't Know.
Bob Knight, director of CWA's Culture and Family Institute, said Barbie manufacturer Mattel was being influenced by the transgender movement.
To pose this transgender question at little girls, they've really crossed the line, Knight said, who added that bisexuality gender confusion is the Web site's agenda, which is very dangerous.
The concern comes after a conservative boycott of Mattel's American Girls dolls. The American Family Association and the Pro-Life Action League protested that some American Girls dolls were wearing I Can wristbands, which support Girls Inc. Girls Inc. is a national, nonprofit organization that promotes education and self-esteem programs, as well as sex education, and supports abortion rights and the acceptance of gays and lesbians. The Mattel-Girls Inc. partnership ended on Dec. 26.
But Mattel, which also manufactures Barbie, said the Barbie incident is much ado about nothing.
This was just an innocent oversight, says Lauren Bruksch, a spokeswoman for Mattel. As a rule of thumb, Bruksch said, the questionnaires at barbie.com always try to have a neutral answer or nonresponse option. For gender, this third option should have been I don't want to say, rather than I don't know. The Web site has since been fixed.
Knight had said CWA would contact Mattel to investigate the matter, but Bruksch said Mattel first heard of the complaint when ABC News called for comment.
I only found one story on this. sm
From an obscure site called Rogers Cadenhead. The remainder of the stories, from the LA Times, etc., did not include anything about U.S. Troops protecting the Hezbollah sympathizers.
Found it. Cute!
My 5-year-old just happened to walk into the room when I clicked on it, and of course he liked it too! Thanks. That's actually based on a true story right? I had forgotten about that story until watching that. Makes my heart ache. Thanks for posting.
I think I found the answer. sm
1. persecution complex
One of the top fifteen factors that can transform a reasonable, amiable, friendly person with reasonable, friendly beliefs and ideas into a ranting, screaming, judgemental zealot with poisonous, nauseating, self-righteous dreck for beliefs.
Persecution complex can strike anyone, regardless of belief, creed or religion, or whether they disagree with you or not. Once you start believing that the whole world is against you, you begin to justify your abominable actions by the presumed hostility of the world. Mind you, it's a great way to not only make enemies, but also an excellent way of making people reject your beliefs and idealogy.
yep, I found this and a couple more, see above....sm
haven't had time to read through it all, though.
This is what I found on McCain
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/9cb5d2aa-f237-464e-9cdf-a5ad32771b9f.htm
I found this interesting
Actually I was looking for a physician name and this came up with their name on it.... Got to looking at it and you can put in a name, zip code, etc. and it will show you who has financially supported different candidates...... the link I'm putting here has "jones" just as a general name.
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=jones&fname=&search=Search
You know, really....I'm sure Hillary would have found out if any of this...sm
were true. I'm sure she had hundreds of people trying to find anything like this on Obama, and if it would have stuck, she would have been like glue on it....lol....
I would have to say none of it flies.
That said, if I or anyone in this country ever found out that any person we put in the white house had lied about something like this, I would vote for immediate impeachment and jail time.
That would include McCain, not just Obama, if any of these allegations were true.
Anyone with me on this last point?
Never mind - I think I just found it - nm
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found this for you, Kaydie -
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=29203
Happy. I actually found it myself just now....along with
So, it seems that McCain also has a refundable tax credit in his plan too...larger, in fact than Obama's. $2500 for individuals and $5000 for couples for health insurance. This begs my original question, which yet have to answer.
Whe Obama adjusts taxs rates within our historical progressive tax structure, it's socialism. When anybody else does it, it's not. So, I am wondering...if Obama has a smaller refundable tax credit in his plan than McCain, why is it welfare under Obama and not under McCain?
says page could not be found???
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I just found it ironic
The way she describes Obama is how the serpent is described. That's all. Relax.
Obama is not everything to assume I see evil in everything. Besides, I never said he was evil. I just haven't been lured into his candy promises just because of his "velvety" voice and great rhetoric. He's good, I'll give him that.
My point is, that many here have said nothing ever found...
I know people that were there and have said WMDs were found. Think I would believe them before all these reports. Those same reports got us into this war. Hmmmm.
If I found something to laugh about...... sm
I would. I just don't view the whole concept of abortion as funny in the least, and I find jokes about it, in any capacity, to be especially sick and demented. 
An article I found
I found this after I posted. I can't tell if the writer is for or against Bush. That's why I like the article. It states the facts, not someone's opinion showing their hatred for someone.
http://www.antiwar.com/eland/?articleid=13452
I found that comical but.....
it is really sad when you think about it. Makes you wonder WHAT will stimulate this economy. 
Found this on another site..........sm
Granted, it is just an opinion (of someone else) but I think this plan would work to achieve the desired results much more so than the current plan. Granted, it does not create jobs, but if it were implemented, then the money would be there for spending and that would, in turn, create jobs in most of the areas where they have been lost - retail sales and manufacturing. It might also create jobs in construction as folks might be more inclined to make home improvements or even buy a new home with the money freed up.
DEAR PRESIDENT OBAMA, VP BIDEN AND CONGRESS;
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YOU WILL PROBABLY NEVER SEE THIS, READ IT, CONSIDER IT OR USE IT, BUT HERE GOES! I AM WHITE MALE, REGISTERED INDEPENDENT, 62 YR OLD TEAMSTER RETIRED FROM A COMPANY THAT USED TO BE CALLED AIRBORNE EXPRESS. WHICH WAS BOUGHT OUT BY A GERMAN COMPANY DHL. WHICH NOW HAS CLOSED DOWN ITS DOMESTIC OPERATIONS AND CENTRAL DISTRIBUTION HUB/AIRPORT, DELIVERY STATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTERS. LAYING OFF 9,000 AMERICAN WORKERS ACROSS AMERICA AND DESTROYING ONE PARTICULAR AMERICAN TOWN, WILMINGTON OH!
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TAX CUTS ARE FINE BUT EITHER THEY DONT WORK OR DONT PUT MONEY IN OUR POCKETS TO SPEND AND STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FROM THE BOTTOM UP! THE “TRICKLE DOWN THEORY” EITHER DIDNT WORK OR WASNT FAST ENOUGH!
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ALSO, THANKS TO THE LAWYERS IN CONGRESS, THE STIMULUS PACKAGE 2009 POSTED ON LINE IS NOT DETAILED ENOUGH FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN TO UNDERSTAND! PLEASE SIMPLIFY IT AND GO ON PRIME TIME TV AND EXPLAIN IT TO US LINE BY LINEEXACTLY HOW EVERYONE OF OUR DOLLARS IS TO BE SPENT, WHAT KIND OF JOBS WILL BE CREATED AND WHERE THEY WILL BE!
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BESIDES THE ABOVE I PROPOSE THE: “TRICKLE UP THEORY”
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A. GIVE EACH LEGAL U.S. ADULT CITIZEN $1MIL TAX FREE! YES THATS A LOT (SO IS THE $50 BIL A MONTH BEING SPENT ON THE WAR FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS). BUT IT WILL DO A LOT MORE GOOD THEN THE PALTRY SUMS CONGRESS IS TALKING ABOUT! BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY DEEP FINANCIAL HOLE WEVE GOTTEN OURSELVES INTO THAT WE MUST NOW CLIMB OUT OF!
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B. EACH OF US MUST SIGN A LEGAL CONTRACT BETWEEN US AND THE GOVERNMENT AGREEING TO THE FOLLOWING STIPULATIONS OR FORFEIT THE MONEY ALL WITHIN A 1-2 YEAR TIMELINE!
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2. MUST BE SPENT ON;
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A. EITHER TO RECLAIM OUR FORECLOSED PRIMARY RESIDENCES OR TO PURCHASE ONE. (NO VACATION HOMES, INVESTMENT/SPECULATION OR BUSINESS PROPERTIES!)
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B. MUST BE SPENT TO IMPROVE OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCES IE; ENERGY EFFICIENT INSULATION, WINDOWS, DOORS, ROOFS, SOLAR PANELS ETC!
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C. YOU MUST PAYOFF ALL MORTGAGES, LOAN, DEBTS, ETC!
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D. YOU MUST SETUP FULL COLLEGE FUNDS FOR YOUR CHILDREN UNDER 21 YEARS OLD. YOU MUST SETUP FULL HEALTHCARE PLANS FOR YOU, YOUR SPOUSE AND ANY CHILDREN UNDER 21 YEARS OLD!
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E. YOU MUST PURCHASE THE MOST EFFICIENT U.S. MADE APPLIANCES, CARS, TRUCKS, ETC!
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IN CLOSING WE MUST STOP THE BICKERING AND WHINING IN CONGRESS AND GET THIS DONE ON TOP OF THE PRESIDENT’S 2009 STIMULUS PACKAGE! IT MUST BE DONE NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE FAMILIES OUT THERE SUFFERING, NO JOBS, NO FOOD, NO HEALTHCARE, NO HOUSING! THEYRE SLEEPING AND STARVING OUT IN THE WOODS AND UNDER THE BRIDGES ACROSS AMERICA!
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GIVE US THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS/CITIZENS OUR OWN MONEY BACK AND LET US INFUSE THE ECONOMY WHICH WILL CREATE THE JOBS AND INFUSE THE TAX BASES! TRUST US TO DO THE RIGHT THING LIKE WE TRUSTED YOU WHEN WE VOTED FOR YOU TO REPRESENT US!
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I WOULD HAVE SENT THIS DIRECT TO WHITEHOUSE.GOV OR STRONGMIDDLECLASS.ORG BUT THEY ONLY ALLOW 500 CHARACTERS/LETTERS NOT WORDS AND THAT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH!
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TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS OUT THERE I ASK YOU TO PLEASE READ AND CONSIDER THIS LETTER AND IF YOU AGREE PLEASE BY ALL MENAS, SIGN YOUR NAME TO IT AND FORWARD IT TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS. EMAIL IT TO ALL THE SENATORS AND CONGREEMEN/WOMEN IN CONGRESS, TO ALL THE NEWSPAPER EDITORS ACROSS AMERICA!
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IF YOU DONT AGREE THEN PLEASE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER! BUT PLEASE BY GOD DO SOMETHING WITH THIS BEFORE THEY LET THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY AND US GO TO RUIN!
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